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lol It's bubbled now. and I don't want to change anything. so I will Keep it~XK2238 wrote:
Love this song :O
Sorry, can only mod Taiko ;_;
[Sp3's Taiko]
01:01:286 (3) - k
01:02:424 - d
01:02:631 (2) - Delete
01:03:148 (2) - d
01:04:803 (2,3) - ^
01:05:734 (2) - Delete
That's all, can't find any more errors \:D/ Good luck =w=b
dancing.png就是放在map最后的一张透明图片0.0wcx19911123 wrote:
dancing.png是干嘛的0.0?
没用的东西必须删掉啊。。
22:08 <tutuhaha> : HI OAO/!
22:09 <tutuhaha> : OAO...are you online?
22:10 <Charles445> : HI
22:10 <tutuhaha> : O.O do you want to irc now?
22:12 <Charles445> : ok
22:12 <tutuhaha> : ^ ^begin~
22:13 <Charles445> : Alright, so basically Cider is a hard map
22:13 <tutuhaha> : :O
22:13 <Charles445> : Like, I know a lot of the approval team can't play it, so they won't try to evaluate it
22:13 <Charles445> : Those who can play it are running into the same problem as me, it's a little too varied
22:13 <Charles445> : some parts are particularly hard to read and some parts are just far too hard
22:13 <Charles445> : spectate me and you'll see what I mean
22:14 <tutuhaha> : sapphireGhost test it so I think player can play it :O
22:14 <Charles445> : SG is a super uber pro
22:14 <Charles445> : As in, even hard to read stuff is easy for SG
22:15 <tutuhaha> : :O
22:15 <Charles445> : for instance, [E] (by goodbye) was a map with some issues, but SG didn't see them
22:15 <Charles445> : The map has a relatively low rating.
22:15 <Charles445> : Spectate me and watch where I mess up
22:15 <tutuhaha> : I can change some hard read things but i dont really want to change more things in cider
22:16 <Charles445> : At one part in there I epic broke
22:17 <tutuhaha> : :O
22:17 <Charles445> : 00:35:320 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - this combo right here
22:17 <Charles445> : 00:35:320 (2,3) - namely things like this
22:17 <Charles445> : where it requires a circle stream jump with a reversed direction
22:17 <Charles445> : 00:35:941 (7,1) - then an even BIGGER one with reversed direction
22:17 <Charles445> : this sort of thing absolutely kills the flow and is harder than it needs to be
22:18 <tutuhaha> : 00:35:424 (7) - you mean nc begin there?
22:18 <Charles445> : heck, all circle stream jumps in the map have that problem
22:18 <Charles445> : no, I mean the jump is bad
22:18 <Charles445> : it doesn't play well
22:18 <tutuhaha> : Orz
22:18 <Charles445> : the map has great parts and not so great parts
22:19 <Charles445> : your map flows very well, but parts like that can kill it
22:19 <Charles445> : so we should go through and find those flow killing areas and fix them up
22:20 <Charles445> : 01:14:527 (1,2,3,4,1) - here's a big one, the 3 to 4 is a big jump that's hard enough as it is
22:20 <tutuhaha> : so you want i can find some easy way to change it?
22:20 <Charles445> : just find a way to make it not as hard and have it flow like most of the map
22:20 <Charles445> : it's too jittery
22:21 <Charles445> : but relating to 01:14:527 (1,2,3,4,1) - , the 3 to 4 is a big jump as - is, but the 4 to 1 is way too big and in
22:21 <Charles445> : the opposite direction
22:21 <tutuhaha> : 01:14:527 (1,2,3,4) - I dont think this is a big one ._...
22:21 <Charles445> : the 4 to 1 is the really big one
22:21 <Charles445> : compared with the earlier parts of the map that part is WAY harder
22:22 <Charles445> : remember, slider stream jumps are much easier than circle stream jumps
22:22 <Charles445> : 01:27:148 (6) - this slider is extremely hard to see because of the previous hitburst
22:23 <tutuhaha> : yey i know it so i like to make a slider jump in my map but this map i want to try to use some circle jump
22:23 <Charles445> : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/342274 it has just begun fading out when the 5 finishes, making the 6 extremely
22:23 <Charles445> : sudden
22:24 <Charles445> : the problem with the circle jumps is that they're too big
22:24 <Charles445> : 01:26:631 (2,3) - little ones like this is totally fine
22:25 <Charles445> : 01:32:734 (3,4,5,6) - ones that are too big and kill the flow like this formation are not
22:25 <Charles445> : 01:31:596 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - also, ones that change the speed in a strange, hard to read manner like this
22:25 <Charles445> : the 4 to 1 is an unexpected jump
22:26 <tutuhaha> : really?but i find many people to test it they can play it
22:26 <Charles445> : sounds like you picked lots of pro players, lol
22:26 <tutuhaha> : kiiwa,nanaya
22:26 <tutuhaha> : they can play O.O
22:26 <Charles445> : kiwa has ranked #360
22:26 <Charles445> : performance 540
22:27 <tutuhaha> : I know it is very hard so i find more player to test it
22:27 <Charles445> : see what I'm saying is if those super hard parts are in the map
22:27 <Charles445> : it should be consistent
22:27 <Charles445> : the map is easy enough for someone like me to play it, up until those points
22:27 <tutuhaha> : and because cider is hard so i make easy insane cyber
22:27 <Charles445> : those points are dramatically harder
22:31 <tutuhaha> : sorry...can you tell me again which part you feel really hard to play?
22:31 <tutuhaha> : just tell me the time point
22:31 <Charles445> : ok, there's a few parts
22:31 <Charles445> : 00:35:217 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - this messes me up every time
22:32 <Charles445> : doesn't flow D:
22:35 <tutuhaha> : ok first i change it
22:35 <tutuhaha> : wait i update
22:35 <Charles445> : ok, let me see
22:36 <Charles445> : updating, lemme see
22:37 <tutuhaha> : finish
22:38 <Charles445> : yes, that's nice :D
22:38 <tutuhaha> : :O
22:39 <Charles445> : ok, part before break is good now
22:40 <Charles445> : moving on
22:40 <Charles445> : 01:14:734 (3,4,1) - oof,
22:40 <Charles445> : so hard X_X
22:40 <Charles445> : Move the 4 up? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/342284
22:42 <tutuhaha> : I change another way,update
22:42 <Charles445> : alright, let's see
22:43 <Charles445> : ah, hm
22:43 <Charles445> : 01:14:631 (2,3) - still a bit too much, the player has to change direction still
22:43 <Charles445> : after a big jump
22:43 <Charles445> : maybe just have regular spacing? http://puu.sh/B1JY
22:44 <tutuhaha> : i dont really like to make it more easy because it maybe too easy than other part
22:45 <Charles445> : oh, you mean 00:21:562 (1,2,3,4,1) - , hmm
22:45 <Charles445> : ah I see, it's the same pattern
22:45 <tutuhaha> : o it is more easy than first one
22:45 <Charles445> : really?
22:45 <Charles445> : weird, the second one seems harder
22:46 <Charles445> : you can change it back then if you want :S
22:46 <tutuhaha> : 00:21:562 (1,2,3,4) - i forgot to change this....wait
22:47 <Charles445> : it's better like it was, I don't like the turn around
22:47 <Charles445> : on the 2 to 4
22:47 <Charles445> : 2 to 3*
22:48 <tutuhaha> : :O
22:49 <tutuhaha> : but it will be more hard because first time yes i do it but NTR said it maybe is more hard
22:50 <Charles445> : I think the first pattern was easier lol
22:50 <tutuhaha> : XD
22:50 <Charles445> : the zig zag one, not the V shaped one
22:52 <tutuhaha> : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/342293
22:52 <Charles445> : sure
22:52 <Charles445> : might as well go with the old 1
22:52 <tutuhaha> : first time i make like this
22:52 <Charles445> : although 4 to 1 is still pretty big lol
22:52 <tutuhaha> : :O if is ok , i will change it
22:53 <Charles445> : if you want it like that go ahead, I'd like it smaller spaced though
22:53 <tutuhaha> : 4to1is not really big I guarantee Orz.........
22:54 <Charles445> : 3x :S
22:54 <Charles445> : 3x during a stream lol
22:54 <tutuhaha> : =A=..........
22:54 <Charles445> : you can keep it
22:54 <tutuhaha> : I can make it like....2.9XOrz......
22:54 <Charles445> : it's fine at 3
22:54 <Charles445> : lol
22:54 <Charles445> : just keep it for now let's move on
22:55 <tutuhaha> : 2.4XIs good~
22:55 <Charles445> : yes
22:55 <Charles445> : 2.4 is good :D
22:55 <tutuhaha> : let me update first
22:55 <Charles445> : ok
22:57 <tutuhaha> : update~
22:57 <Charles445> : wargh
22:57 <Charles445> : lol
22:57 <Charles445> : that pattern turns like 3 times
22:58 <tutuhaha> : XD
22:58 <Charles445> : make 2, 3 reversed back
22:58 <Charles445> : lol
23:00 <tutuhaha> : fix~
23:00 <tutuhaha> : update~
23:01 <tutuhaha> : make a litter jump between 2 and 3
23:01 <Charles445> : it's nice :D
23:02 <tutuhaha> : :D
23:02 <Charles445> : ok let's move on
23:02 <Charles445> : 01:27:148 (6) - this is too hard to see under all the hitbursts before XO
23:02 <Charles445> : if you move it more to the left then it'll be clearer
23:03 <tutuhaha> : 01:27:148 (6) - how about reverse it?
23:03 <Charles445> : LEMME SEE
23:03 <Charles445> : caps lock, sorry
23:03 <Charles445> : lemme see
23:03 <tutuhaha> : XD
23:03 <Charles445> : yeah that works great
23:03 <tutuhaha> : ok fix
23:04 <tutuhaha> : move next
23:04 <Charles445> : 01:28:493 (2) - I keep missing this for some reason
23:04 <Charles445> : idk why O_O
23:04 <Charles445> : it's hard to see lol, but I think it's my fault
23:04 <Charles445> : 01:31:493 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this part is an issue because the jump from 4 to 1 is too hard to read, and it's
23:04 <Charles445> : too hard to play
23:04 <Charles445> : when I first played this I didn't realize that the 4 to 1 was a stream jump
23:05 <tutuhaha> : maybe it need speed some time to play well for it but i think it is no big problem in 01:28:493 (2) - /v\
23:05 <Charles445> : yeah 1:28 isn't a problem
23:05 <Charles445> : but 1:31 is really really unexpected lol
23:06 <Charles445> : also the jump is really big O_O
23:06 <tutuhaha> : 01:31:803 (4,1) - it i make this two more close it can feel better?
23:06 <Charles445> : yess
23:06 <Charles445> : so it's clear that it's a jump and so it isn't so hard
23:09 <tutuhaha> : fix and update
23:10 <Charles445> : ooh sliders
23:10 <Charles445> : I like
23:11 <tutuhaha> : XD
23:11 <Charles445> : 01:32:320 (1) - this guy gets covered up a bit too much though
23:11 <Charles445> : maybe make that slider start where the 2 starts?
23:11 <tutuhaha> : is ok I think
23:11 <Charles445> : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/342296 something like this?
23:11 <tutuhaha> : is ok is ok /v\
23:11 <Charles445> : it's pretty messy in there :|
23:11 <tutuhaha> : ...i dont really like it Orz...
23:12 <Charles445> : ehh
23:12 <tutuhaha> : read is ok.........................yeh..........
23:12 <Charles445> : the hard part about it is the hitburst is right in the middle
23:12 <Charles445> : so you can't see the number, and since the slider is so short it's hard to see where the approach circle is
23:12 <Charles445> : going
23:13 <Charles445> : on the top right or the bottom left http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/342298
23:13 <tutuhaha> : o..yeh i see now............
23:15 <tutuhaha> : ok change, wait update
23:15 <tutuhaha> : fix
23:16 <Charles445> : great :D
23:16 <tutuhaha> : :D
23:17 <Charles445> : good job rotating that slider out of the way of the red 4
23:17 <Charles445> : makes it much tidier
23:17 <tutuhaha> : ;D
23:17 <Charles445> : 01:32:734 (3,4,5,6,1) - c-c-c-c-combo breaker
23:17 <tutuhaha> : combo breaker?
23:17 <Charles445> : that pattern is really hard lol
23:18 <Charles445> : ehh
23:18 <Charles445> : it's not too bad
23:18 <Charles445> : hmm lemme keep trying it
23:18 <tutuhaha> : Truth is i
23:18 <tutuhaha> : don t know..
23:18 <Charles445> : idk either lol
23:18 <tutuhaha> : how to change it Orz.....
23:19 <tutuhaha> : So please skip it <(_ _)>【slap】
23:19 <Charles445> : ohhh I know
23:19 <Charles445> : D:
23:19 *Charles445 gets slapped
23:19 <tutuhaha> : XDDDDDDDDDD
23:19 <Charles445> : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/342300 make the 2 to 3 a jump, and have it turn after that
23:19 <Charles445> : then the 6 goes into the 1 all nice
23:19 <Charles445> : :D very fun
23:19 <tutuhaha> : XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
23:19 <Charles445> : the slider makes the 2 to 3 not too hard
23:20 <tutuhaha> : maybe it will be more hard but let me try it XD
23:20 <tutuhaha> : look so fun
23:20 <Charles445> : it's much easier
23:23 <Charles445> : you ready? O_O
23:23 <tutuhaha> : yeag
23:23 <Charles445> : did you update?
23:24 <tutuhaha> : ok
23:24 <tutuhaha> : update
23:24 <Charles445> : you did, great :D
23:24 <tutuhaha> : :D
23:25 <Charles445> : 01:56:217 (8) - move this up 2 grid spaces. Because of osu! stacking objects, the 1 is overlapping the 8.
23:25 <Charles445> : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/342302
23:25 <Charles445> : moving the 8 up two spaces (on grid 4) will stop that overlap from happening :D
23:27 <tutuhaha> : update~
23:27 <Charles445> : ok
23:28 <Charles445> : 02:54:872 (4,2,3,4) -
23:28 <Charles445> : too hard lol
23:28 <Charles445> : oops
23:28 <Charles445> : selected the wrong thing
23:28 <Charles445> : 02:54:872 (4,2,3,4) - this part is frustrating
23:28 <Charles445> : oops
23:29 <Charles445> : selected it wrong again >_>_>
23:29 <Charles445> : 02:55:493 (1,2,3,4) - ok THIS
23:29 <Charles445> : this part is frustrating
23:29 <tutuhaha> : www
23:29 <Charles445> : those back and forth jumps hurt
23:29 <Charles445> : ohhh
23:29 <Charles445> : i got an idea
23:30 <Charles445> : set up the 1 so it points in the right direction with 2 and 3, but have the jump to 4 and then the 4 moves
23:30 <Charles445> : up into the 1
23:30 <Charles445> : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/342306
23:30 <Charles445> : you can fix it by reversing the circles a bit lol
23:31 <tutuhaha> : Orz............i dont think it is more easy to read............................
23:31 <tutuhaha> : I think now is ok QAQ
23:31 <Charles445> : ehh
23:31 <Charles445> : ohh, it's hard to read?
23:31 <tutuhaha> : red combo!
23:31 <Charles445> : it was hard to play lol
23:31 <tutuhaha> : Orz
23:31 <Charles445> : that's why I was in pain D:
23:31 <Charles445> : ummm maybe there's a better way
23:31 <tutuhaha> : :O
23:31 <Charles445> : it looks like you want the star formation
23:31 <Charles445> : obviously
23:31 <tutuhaha> : <3
23:32 <Charles445> : so the problem with my suggestion was it was hard to read, right?
23:33 <Charles445> : I mean it's all 1/4 :S
23:33 <tutuhaha> : :Lyeh
23:33 <Charles445> : I don't think it'd be too hard to read but if you don't like it then that's fine, it's your map
23:33 <tutuhaha> : :O
23:33 <Charles445> : I think we can keep what you had
23:34 <tutuhaha> : i think now is end for this map so i can make some....hard way?....like this
23:34 <Charles445> : the ending is great
23:34 <Charles445> : lol
23:34 <Charles445> : keep it
23:34 <Charles445> : that star at the end is fine
23:34 <tutuhaha> : XD
23:34 <Charles445> : don't need to update it anymore
23:34 <Charles445> : I'm going to playtest the map now, in standard
23:34 <tutuhaha> : I love it
23:34 <Charles445> : yes, the slider is epic
23:35 <Charles445> : and the 1 to 2 (the long slider 2)
23:35 <Charles445> : awesomeee
23:35 <Charles445> : fits so well
23:35 <tutuhaha> : XDDDDDDDDDD
23:35 <Charles445> : then the last two oval sliders
23:35 <Charles445> : bam flower
23:35 <Charles445> : good stuff
23:35 <Charles445> : oops
23:37 <tutuhaha> : wow~ ⊙o⊙
23:37 <Charles445> : I play bad
23:37 <Charles445> : LOL
23:37 <tutuhaha> : wow~ ⊙o⊙!
23:38 <Charles445> : FWAHAHH
23:38 <Charles445> : HAHAHAH
23:38 <tutuhaha> : XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
23:38 <Charles445> : 1 more time
23:38 <Charles445> : I gotthis
23:40 <tutuhaha> : nice!
23:41 <Charles445> : yes, this is ready to go
23:41 <tutuhaha> : !!!!!!!!!!!!!
23:41 <Charles445> : lol
23:41 <Charles445> : gotta check the other diffs ofc
23:41 <tutuhaha> : lol
23:41 <Charles445> : then I can rebubble
23:41 <Charles445> : or you get someone to bubble then I rank
23:41 <Charles445> : but first gotta make sure the other diffs are fine
23:41 <Charles445> : lol
23:41 <tutuhaha> : i can call NTR to rebubble
23:42 <Charles445> : NTR bubbled first right
23:42 <Charles445> : lemme make sure the map is all rankable first
23:43 <tutuhaha> : I think NTR have rebubble chance OAO,and ok you can make sure
23:43 <Charles445> : Which vocaloid is singing?
23:43 <tutuhaha> : i hope you can redownload
23:43 <tutuhaha> : VY1
23:43 <Charles445> : oh that's its name?
23:43 <tutuhaha> : yes
23:43 <Charles445> : O_O lol I was expecting something like megurine, some long name like that
23:43 <Charles445> : but ok, works for me
23:44 <tutuhaha> : XD
23:44 <Charles445> : LOL
23:44 <Charles445> : DANCING
23:44 <Charles445> : wahaha
23:44 <Charles445> : that stickman is fantastic
23:46 <tutuhaha> : XD
23:52 <Charles445> : omg
23:52 <Charles445> : cyber diff is amazing
23:52 <tutuhaha> : OAO!
23:52 <Charles445> : i didn't find anything I didn't like in there
23:53 <tutuhaha> : !!!
23:53 <tutuhaha> : XDDD
23:56 <Charles445> : wahu
23:56 <Charles445> : hard is great too
23:56 <Charles445> : man you're on top of this
23:56 <tutuhaha> : I like hard diff <3
23:57 <tutuhaha> : i always like to make fun in my hard diff XD
23:57 <Charles445> : omg that taiko
23:57 <Charles445> : insane
23:58 <tutuhaha> : XD
23:58 <tutuhaha> : you can talk with sp3 about his taiko~~~~~~~~~~
23:59 <Charles445> : looks fine so far
23:59 <Charles445> : I mean I can't play taiko so I wouldn't know
23:59 <tutuhaha> : XD
23:59 <Charles445> : but there isn't explicitly unrankable so \_(:O):/
23:59 <Charles445> : oops
23:59 <Charles445> : this \_(:O)_/
00:00 <tutuhaha> : ~\(≧▽≦)/~
00:00 <Charles445> : we don't have those symbols D:
00:00 <Charles445> : ♦
00:00 <Charles445> : this is the best we get
00:00 <tutuhaha> : XD
00:01 <tutuhaha> : ❤
00:01 <tutuhaha> : ※
00:01 <Charles445> : careful lol
00:01 <Charles445> : cool symbols Q_Q
00:01 <Charles445> : anyway, taiko looks good
00:01 <tutuhaha> : XD Good new for sp3~
00:04 <Charles445> : normal good too
00:04 <Charles445> : LOL
00:05 <tutuhaha> : wow
00:07 <tutuhaha> : good news~maybe LKs can help me to rebubble <3~
00:07 <Charles445> : something on easy lol
00:08 <Charles445> : 02:01:700 (1) - this comes too soon after spinner :P
00:09 <Charles445> : and that's it
00:10 <Charles445> : make sure you only update the easy lol
00:10 <Charles445> : that way I don't have to recheck the other difs
00:10 <Charles445> : tell me when you do that
00:10 <tutuhaha> : ok
00:11 <Charles445> : don't change the cider diff, change the easy, cider is ready to go :P
00:11 <tutuhaha> : and i change too litter space in cider
00:11 <Charles445> : which part?
00:11 <tutuhaha> : 00:14:113 (2,3) -
00:11 <tutuhaha> : 00:17:320 (3,4) -
00:11 <tutuhaha> : ...a litter
00:11 <tutuhaha> : lks find it
00:11 <Charles445> : litter?
00:11 <Charles445> : ?
00:11 <Charles445> : ohhh
00:11 <Charles445> : tiny spacing inconsistency?
00:12 <tutuhaha> : yeh
00:12 <Charles445> : pshhh doesn't matter that much when the map's going so fast LOL
00:12 <Charles445> : did you do anything on the normal? O_O
00:12 <Charles445> : it wants to update
00:13 <tutuhaha> : now i update cider you can see, and i go change easy
00:13 <Charles445> : ok
00:13 <Charles445> : normal updated for some reason lol
00:13 <Charles445> : I'll look over cider while you do that
00:14 <tutuhaha> : <3
00:16 <Charles445> : cider's good
00:16 <Charles445> : checking normal because it updated somehow Q_Q
00:17 <Charles445> : ohhh did you lower the AR on normal?
00:18 <tutuhaha> : OAO
00:19 <Charles445> : did you? O_O
00:19 <Charles445> : D:
00:19 <tutuhaha> : no
00:19 <Charles445> : ok
00:19 <Charles445> : lol
00:20 <Charles445> : did you update the easy?
00:20 <tutuhaha> : i think about it now.............
00:21 <Charles445> : also if lks suggests something on cider lemme know what he suggests and I'll tell you if I agree
00:21 <tutuhaha> : ok ok
00:22 <tutuhaha> : and lks think some star is not really star so he will give me some adjustment star about code
00:22 <Charles445> : I'm gonna go to sleep, PM me when LKS gives you bubble :P
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