20:07 <grumd> : рш
20:07 <grumd> : hi
20:07 <grumd> : loluper is arguing
20:07 <grumd> : he wants you to try to improve you part someway
20:07 <theowest> : what? :O
20:07 <theowest> : ..okay :v
20:07 <grumd> : try to look it through and look what you can do better
20:07 <theowest> : did he check my update?
20:08 <grumd> : don't know
20:08 <theowest> : ask him
20:08 <grumd> : asking..
20:08 <theowest> : I improve quite a few things
20:08 <grumd> : he said yes
20:08 <theowest> : oh
20:08 <theowest> : but do you like it?
20:08 <grumd> : me?
20:08 <grumd> : yes :v
20:08 <theowest> : i'll see what i can do. ;_;
20:09 <theowest> : man this made me sad
20:09 <grumd> : yep..
20:09 <grumd> : also
20:09 <grumd> : 03:17:527 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -
20:09 <grumd> : he tells that streams in our map have to be more straight
20:09 <grumd> : not so curvy, and better aligned to round shape
20:10 <theowest> : oh
20:10 <theowest> : but I liked that stream ;v;
20:10 <grumd> : mee too
20:10 <grumd> : but it doesnt follow gold stream-style
20:11 <grumd> : also he says that 02:49:669 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is not good ;_;
20:11 <grumd> : i like it, but he not
20:11 <theowest> : have he ever mapped a collab before?
20:11 <grumd> : no xD
20:11 <theowest> : does he even know what a collab is?
20:11 <grumd> : no xD
20:11 <theowest> : well
20:12 <theowest> : he should know that multiple people contribute to ONE difficulty with their OWN mapping style, which creates a massive variation and
20:12 <theowest> : new action for the player
20:12 <theowest> : it's also easier for the mappers to map
20:12 <theowest> : and very fun to make
20:12 <theowest> : like a fruit sallad
20:12 <theowest> : not just grapes, but also apples and bananas
20:12 <theowest> : and whatnot
20:13 <theowest> : got it?
20:13 <grumd> : lol
20:13 <grumd> : i know it
20:13 <grumd> : and translating it to him real-time
20:13 <theowest> : awesome
20:13 <theowest> : and yknow
20:13 <theowest> : I've made a couple of collabs in my time
20:13 <theowest> : I've hated every single other collab part I've been a part of
20:13 <theowest> : they SUCKED
20:13 <theowest> : but that doesn't mean I don't accept them
20:13 <theowest> : they're okay
20:13 <theowest> : and other people like them
20:13 <theowest> : well they didn't suck
20:14 <theowest> : they just wasn't as good as what I thought was good
20:14 <theowest> : yknow
20:14 <grumd> : yea
20:14 <grumd> : okay
20:14 <grumd> : but
20:14 <grumd> : loluper is ass
20:14 <theowest> : which parts was his?
20:14 <grumd> : and he wants you to make it "pretty"
20:15 <theowest> : by his standards...
20:15 <grumd> : look at song's descr
20:15 <grumd> : well, all that i can say
20:15 <grumd> : 02:54:169 (8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) -
20:15 <theowest> : link me
20:15 <grumd> : 02:54:169 (8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) -
20:15 <grumd> : oh
20:15 <grumd> : this is really lazy shit ;_;
20:15 <theowest> : it's just stacked
20:15 <theowest> : what's wrong with that?
20:16 <grumd> : it looks bad
20:16 <theowest> : ._.
20:16 <grumd> : no, really
20:16 <theowest> : so stacks looks bad?
20:16 <theowest> : ok
20:16 <grumd> : you'd better unstack them and make some nice pattern
20:16 <grumd> : yes
20:16 <grumd> : you got it.
20:16 <grumd> : yknow
20:16 <theowest> : but the fucking sound is fucking repeating the same fucking sound
20:16 <grumd> : even if we have to respect others
20:16 <grumd> : we want other to try their BEST
20:16 <theowest> : if I want to make a nice stream pattern it has to be different sounds and stuff
20:17 <grumd> : well
20:17 <theowest> : ok
20:17 <grumd> : not only listening to music will help
20:17 <theowest> : let me complain about your parts then
20:17 <grumd> : ofc
20:17 <grumd> : try to FEEL THE MUSIC OMNOMHAHAHAHA
20:17 <theowest> : 00:06:598 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - overmap
20:18 <theowest> : there's nothing in the song that says this should be here
20:18 <theowest> : NOTHING
20:18 <theowest> : a stream shouldn't be there
20:18 <theowest> : just 1/2 notes
20:18 <theowest> : inconsistant hitsounds pretty much everywhere
20:18 <theowest> : inconsistent*
20:19 <theowest> : same here 00:13:348 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
20:19 <grumd> : hitsounds will be changed later, yknow
20:19 <theowest> : yes
20:19 <theowest> : ^ overmapped
20:19 <grumd> : he says he will try to do smth
20:19 <theowest> : 00:14:955 (9) - no new combo
20:19 <theowest> : 00:15:384 - new combo
20:19 <grumd> : no
20:19 <grumd> : it's according to downbeat
20:20 <grumd> : combos are by me *bad poker face*
20:20 <theowest> : it's a final note from the last slider
20:20 <theowest> : and the vocals from the next slider creates the next new sound part
20:20 <theowest> : "the singing"
20:20 <theowest> : and continues off
20:20 <grumd> : weeeell
20:20 <grumd> : i dont know
20:21 <theowest> : just wait and see
20:21 <theowest> : more people will probably suggest it
20:21 <grumd> : well, yes
20:21 <grumd> : look better
20:21 <theowest> : 00:17:526 (5,6,7) - plays weird with that spacing from the slider to notes
20:21 <grumd> : but such tiny thing will be fxd in moddings okay?
20:21 <theowest> : and doesn't look to good considering what it actually sounds like
20:21 <theowest> : yes
20:21 <theowest> : 00:18:812 - new combo
20:22 <grumd> : oh wait
20:22 <grumd> : 17:526
20:22 <theowest> : 00:18:812 (10,11,12) - repetition, lazyness.
20:22 <grumd> : i was always thinking is plays good
20:22 <theowest> : sudden move to the left plays good, when the music is pretty much calm?
20:23 <grumd> : yes!
20:23 <theowest> : it's quite a big step
20:23 <grumd> : well, i will not suggest him the same, sorry
20:23 <grumd> : i like 00:17:526 (5,6,7) - part
20:24 <theowest> : a slider should start 00:10:027 - here
20:24 <theowest> : just like the two before it
20:24 <grumd> : about lazyness - he also wants to do smth
20:24 <theowest> : and continue like that
20:24 <theowest> : just like the sound
20:24 <theowest> : the music
20:24 <grumd> : really?
20:24 <theowest> : would be cool, and play better if it went out, something like this
20:24 <theowest> : http://puu.sh/rscI
20:24 <theowest> : yes
20:24 <theowest> : listen to the music
20:24 <theowest> : it's the same thing
20:25 <theowest> : repeated over and over again
20:25 <theowest> : therefore, repetition in sliders
20:25 <theowest> : simpe
20:25 <grumd> : yes, music is ..
20:26 <theowest> : also, it's kind of weird when you didn't map any of this kind 00:08:955 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - before, when you could here it in the music
20:26 <theowest> : before. It's like you ignore it for a few seconds, then suddenly map it
20:26 <grumd> : it's still ok
20:26 <grumd> : he says he already remapped it a bit
20:26 <grumd> : going to reupload
20:26 <grumd> : wait a sec
20:26 <theowest> : overmap 00:25:991
20:27 <theowest> : 00:25:991 -
20:27 <theowest> : 00:27:062 - remove note
20:27 <theowest> : 00:27:919 - add note
20:27 <theowest> : 00:28:669 - why isn't the singing mapped?
20:27 <theowest> : that's lazy
20:28 <theowest> : 00:34:027 - three notes here should perfectly match the coming three note
20:28 <theowest> : (same sound repeated)
20:29 <grumd> : wait!
20:29 <grumd> : I consider the above statement to contain an essence of truth.
20:29 <theowest> : just as there's a slider in the beginning there, it could be one here 00:34:241 -
20:29 <grumd> : 00:34:027- there're three notes here already
20:29 <theowest> : 00:35:527 - extreme lazyness
20:29 <theowest> : yes
20:29 <theowest> : but they should be matched
20:29 <grumd> : symmetrically?
20:30 <theowest> : either by having just 3 + 3 notes, or slider + 2 notes + slider + 2 notes
20:30 <theowest> : no
20:30 <theowest> : no
20:30 <theowest> : wait
20:30 <grumd> : i understood
20:30 <theowest> : slider + 1 note + slider + 1 note
20:30 <grumd> : yea
20:30 <grumd> : wait, i'll tell him
20:30 <theowest> : something like this http://puu.sh/rsgo
20:30 <theowest> : funny how he can't understand english
20:31 <theowest> : or like this http://puu.sh/rsgO
20:31 <theowest> : 00:36:384 - there should really be some mapping here
20:32 <grumd> : maybe he can
20:32 <grumd> : but i can better
20:32 <theowest> : 00:40:991 - the wubadub starts here, but it's acceptable since there's vocals, and the coming repeating notes are pretty ok
20:32 <theowest> : however
20:33 <grumd> : yknow, he's accepting nearly all your suggestions
20:33 <theowest> : mapping wise, it should probably be more of a grid pattern http://puu.sh/rshT
20:33 <theowest> : or
20:34 <theowest> : like a round grid pattern http://puu.sh/rsia
20:34 <theowest> : maybe just a few note dragging would be enough
20:34 <theowest> : 00:43:241 - so lazy, map here please
20:35 <theowest> : it's not very fun when there's mapping for a few seconds, and then there's a desert and almost no notes to be seen
20:35 <theowest> : this is good 00:47:741 (4,5,6,7,8,9) -
20:35 <theowest> : 00:50:098 - same here, map
20:36 <grumd> : ц8
20:36 <grumd> : w8
20:36 <theowest> : vocals and beats in the music both starts here 00:52:455 - so there should be a new combo there instead of the next note
20:36 <grumd> : where grid pattern occurs?
20:36 <theowest> : yes?
20:36 <theowest> : oh
20:36 <theowest> : wait
20:36 <theowest> : around here 00:41:205
20:37 <theowest> : 00:46:669 - would be nice if "I cannot let it go" was mapped
20:37 <theowest> : 00:53:312 - rest of vocals missing
20:38 <theowest> : 00:53:955 - would be good if this was a vocal sound giving it life, but there's not and it makes it feel weird
20:38 <theowest> : 00:57:812 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - This sure as hell is one ugly stream
20:39 <theowest> : http://puu.sh/rslu
20:40 <theowest> : 00:59:527 - I really don't feel the wub wub stream here
20:40 <theowest> : 01:01:241 - slider, fits both the vocals and downbeats and everything much better
20:41 <theowest> : 01:01:562 - What can I do, not whatcanido
20:41 <theowest> : 01:02:634 - this sad weiio sound should only be mapped with 1/2s
20:41 <theowest> : 01:02:955 - can't feel or hear the wub
20:42 <theowest> : quick hard change in distance 01:08:098 -
20:42 <theowest> : would be nice if the rest of the music was mapped here 01:08:312 -
20:42 <theowest> : it all just feels so empty
20:43 <theowest> : 01:11:527 - same here
20:44 <theowest> : doesn't look or play good together http://puu.sh/rso1
20:44 <theowest> : where's the "I know" 01:16:884 -
20:45 <theowest> : 01:17:741 - doesn't match ANY of the vocals or beats or wubs or anything
20:45 <theowest> : that stuff is suppose to be used in easier difficulties
20:45 <theowest> : 01:20:312 - wub wub? ;v;
20:46 <grumd> : fucking internet connection!
20:46 <theowest> : this is good and better http://puu.sh/rspr 01:22:134 -
20:46 <grumd> : it crashed again
20:46 <grumd> : oh shit
20:47 <theowest> : but could work better if the 01:22:026 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - stream was longer to the right
20:47 <grumd> : did you write to me all this time?
20:47 <theowest> : well you've missed quite a lot
20:47 <theowest> : yep
20:47 <grumd> : savelog then
20:47 <theowest> : about 20 lines
20:47 <grumd> : D:
20:47 <theowest> : yes
20:47 <theowest> : 01:23:955 - missing vocal
20:47 <theowest> : I just want to finish first
20:47 <grumd> : okay, i'll go offline again, continue writing then. and after all please savelog and send me
20:47 <theowest> : 01:24:384 - no wub mapped, nor vocals
20:47 <theowest> : yes
20:47 <theowest> : ok
20:48 <theowest> : 01:25:455 - that sound should be mapped mo
20:48 <theowest> : imo*
20:48 <theowest> : and the rest, but sure the small little break is kinda nice. 01:26:098 -
20:48 <theowest> : shouldn't a break be added here tho?
20:49 <theowest> : 01:28:027 - slider, just the onces before
20:49 <theowest> : just like the music tells you
20:49 <theowest> : yeah
20:49 <theowest> : it only fits with slider at that part
20:49 <theowest> : BUT
20:49 <grumd> : will you mod my part as well?
20:49 <theowest> : the dun dun dun dun at from 01:29:526 (4,5,6) -
20:50 <theowest> : should be mapped with notes
20:50 <theowest> : I'll mod everything
20:50 <grumd> : ok, good
20:50 <grumd> : thx
20:50 <theowest> : 01:32:955 - and the remaining
20:50 <theowest> : 01:40:669 - why the sudden stop?
20:50 <theowest> : 01:41:527 - I CANNOT
20:50 <theowest> : not ICANNOT
20:50 <theowest> : it's not one word
20:51 <theowest> : 2 vocal sound
20:51 <theowest> : s
20:51 <theowest> : 01:42:384 - let it gooooooooooooooo
20:51 <grumd> : you want us to map vocals too?
20:51 <theowest> : well you have previously
20:51 <theowest> : but then suddenly stop
20:51 <theowest> : and on and on
20:52 <theowest> : can't tell your diffs apart
20:54 <theowest> : if there's both vocals and other music stuff in a song, then both should be mapped in the best way possible
20:54 <theowest> : but it depends much on your style
20:54 <grumd> : yea, but!
20:54 <grumd> : what loluper said
20:54 <theowest> : you map what's dominant
20:55 <grumd> : we have to make nearly the same mapping quality, but not the same style
20:55 <theowest> : I for example mapped the dominant vocal beginning
20:55 <grumd> : wait wait
20:55 <theowest> : I'll show him quailty!
20:55 <grumd> : so, we have to decide what rhythm patterns to use and then try to map in our own style
20:55 <theowest> : You have no idea how much rage I have in me right now
20:56 <grumd> : i have an idea
20:56 <grumd> : put this rage in the right place and make us map the best we can
20:57 <theowest> : I'm putting it in showing you all wrong
20:57 <theowest> : proving*
20:57 <grumd> : yea
20:57 <grumd> : keep on doing that pls
20:57 <grumd> : and dont forget to save the log :3
20:57 <theowest> : 01:44:312 - sliders must beginning here, due to the previous mapping of such sliders to the same music and just because it fits much
20:57 <theowest> : better with everything else, including other beatmaps and song with similairies
20:58 <theowest> : oh I will savelog alright
20:58 <theowest> : 01:44:741 - , 01:45:169 - and so on
20:58 <theowest> : 01:46:348 - there's a laser wub here. someone forgot to map it
20:58 <grumd> : well, you'll savelog, and i'll go to bed :3 good night~
20:58 <theowest> : good night.
20:59 <theowest> : 01:57:598 - remove note
20:59 <theowest> : it builds up a great momentum of epicness and action
20:59 <theowest> : that just makes the two music parts and beatmap part stick together
21:00 <theowest> : as if they're the same section
21:00 <theowest> : 01:59:527 - longer slider would be better
21:01 <theowest> : 02:02:527 - "like a" those two seperate words is better played with two seperate notes
21:01 <theowest> : 02:04:241 - this is only two wubs from here to the slider, compared to the same length part before it which was 4 wubs
21:02 <theowest> : so slower wubs must be mapped
21:02 <theowest> : 02:04:669 - didn't map vocals huh?
21:03 <theowest> : 02:06:705 - the epic free fall momentum would still exist even if this was mapped even more
21:03 <theowest> : 02:09:812 - either seperating everything or just add a slider to make the short distances work
21:04 <theowest> : 02:11:955 - stack this under the almost hidden note
21:06 <theowest> : http://puu.sh/rsBl 02:13:991 - try to mirror the next stream here, the next upcoming triangle makes the shape of the whole thing look
21:06 <theowest> : awkwardly weird and not play as good
21:07 <theowest> : http://puu.sh/rsCu 02:16:027 - doesn't look as exciting as it could.
21:08 <theowest> : http://puu.sh/rsD6 *
21:08 <theowest> : 02:18:598 - WUB WUB!!
21:10 <theowest> : http://puu.sh/rsE7 02:20:527 - the shape the two streams create together is awful
21:10 <theowest> : try GEOMETRY
21:10 <theowest> : that's ALWAYS beautiful
21:10 <theowest> : and ALWAYS works
21:10 <theowest> : it wasn't used too bad in the second stream hree
21:10 <theowest> : here*
21:11 <theowest> : as shown here http://puu.sh/rsF4
21:12 <theowest> : the first stream should be either a wave, or together create an much better smooth shape with the next stream http://puu.sh/rsFK
21:12 <theowest> : http://puu.sh/rsFV change location of this triangle 02:20:955 (1,2,3) -
21:13 <theowest> : I know you've mapped like this all the time, but please, this doesn't feel good. at all. 02:23:955
21:13 <theowest> : 02:23:955 -
21:14 <theowest> : What the shit is this ugly mess? 02:24:384 (3,4,5,6,7) - http://puu.sh/rsHb
21:14 <theowest> : small triangles or some shit
21:14 <theowest> : doesn't work
21:16 <theowest> : try a star or something http://puu.sh/rsI5 whatever you feel like, just not some random ugly shit
21:17 <theowest> : Now let me explain to you my part
21:21 <theowest> : ok
21:21 <theowest> : took a break
21:21 <theowest> : Im back
21:21 <theowest> : let me explain my part
21:21 <theowest> : the first thing you see is this http://puu.sh/rsKN
21:22 <theowest> : now first of all, it creates a flow, shown with this picture: http://puu.sh/rsLf
21:22 <theowest> : the 3 notes together therese crease somewhat like a square and the coming slider points to where the last note was located
21:23 <theowest> : in this small part, the vocals are dominant
21:23 <theowest> : so that's what I'm trying to lift up
21:23 <theowest> : for example, if there was a break here
21:23 <theowest> : a player could play with their keys
21:24 <theowest> : and that would be done to the vocals in this case (most likely), very likely indeed
21:24 <theowest> : so that's why I mapped that " I CANNOT LET IT GO
21:24 <theowest> : "
21:25 <theowest> : I put the next note here http://puu.sh/rsMR because that's the best position to put it since the last slider shows a round shape and is
21:25 <theowest> : flown natually towards that way, when there's previous notes in the way infront of it
21:25 <theowest> : 02:41:527 - no dominant sound here, so I continue
21:26 <theowest> : 02:42:384 - just to fill out the empty spacings and stuff, we can all hear the smooth sound of calmness (that mmmmmmmmmmm
21:26 <theowest> : sound) so there's a slider for it
21:27 <theowest> : It then ends perfectly where the vocal start 02:43:241 - and downbeat
21:28 <theowest> : 02:43:884 - at this point, the music steps up at "I CANNOT, but then goes down at LET IT GO"
21:29 <theowest> : Red is the stepping up, green is the stepping down and dark red is the hidden grid shown in our mids (if you're that analytic like me)
21:29 <theowest> : http://puu.sh/rsQ8
21:29 <theowest> : 02:44:955 (5,6) - repeating with a 20% tilt or something to match the previous slider
21:29 <theowest> : as it's perfectly the same in the music
21:29 <theowest> : and should therefore be played just the same
21:29 <theowest> : and plays very well this well
21:30 <theowest> : 02:45:812 - tilted AND mirrored slider of the old one, omg it's also green. cool
21:30 <theowest> : here's a reversed position 02:46:991 -
21:32 <theowest> : as shown here http://puu.sh/rsS7 the red is now stepping down with the "I CANNOT" and the green is then going out
21:32 <theowest> : 02:48:062 - the only place this note could be placed. anywhere else is less good
21:32 <theowest> : 02:48:384 - no dominant sound here
21:33 <theowest> : so I continue with a tiny break
21:35 <theowest> : 02:51:277 - this place could be improved upon, http://puu.sh/rsUz it's a tilted and decreased in speed as it goes down, pretty random
21:35 <theowest> : but fits well as the purple indicates a square like sense once it goes back like it does
21:37 <theowest> : I noted your opinion about this and I can agree on that this is a duller section then the awesome rest
21:37 <theowest> : So I'm going to change it to a better, geometrically correct one
21:37 <theowest> : which more peope would agree upon I guess
21:38 <theowest> : The overall playing of this is comfortable, as you go down as the music goes down and the sliders doesn't look too bad, with the
21:38 <theowest> : magical middle point in every each one of them, as they create a tiny straightness but really not
21:39 <theowest> : 02:52:241 - goes to the right as your view and cursor turns to the next note
21:39 <theowest> : 02:52:884 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this creats an awesome cube
21:39 <theowest> : they're easy to play
21:39 <theowest> : they look good
21:39 <theowest> : and best of all, it fits to the music
21:39 <theowest> : now here's the thing you said didn't fit and was considered lazy
21:39 <theowest> : 02:54:384 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
21:40 <theowest> : seriously?
21:40 <theowest> : Just because it's fucking stacked?!
21:40 <theowest> : Really?
21:40 <theowest> : Lazy is when you DON'T MAP
21:40 <theowest> : the same fucking sound is repeating and therefore, it's best to let it be stacked
21:40 <theowest> : the stacking in that way is going to be three dimensional
21:41 <theowest> : 02:55:241 (1,2,3) - goes outwards as the music does, and looks very good
21:42 <theowest> : 02:54:384 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - If you don't know where this should be instead, and where it would look better, please be sure to notify
21:42 <theowest> : me. Everything doesn't always have to be spreaded out like that
21:42 <theowest> : Try to play a beatmap which uses stack sometime
21:42 <theowest> : it helps.
21:42 <theowest> : it's fun
21:42 <theowest> : it doesn't have to be bad.
21:43 <theowest> : 02:56:098 (1) - this slider goes up to note number two
21:43 <theowest> : and then down to mirror in a tilted grid view the 1/4 short sliders above
21:43 <theowest> : these are exactly put to the wub wub wub wub
21:43 <theowest> : and is used as perfect as it could
21:43 <theowest> : looks awesome imo
21:43 <theowest> : and plays awesome
21:44 <theowest> : feels like you're better than what you actually are when someone plays it
21:44 <theowest> : they're easy
21:44 <theowest> : but pretty hard if you increase the speed
21:44 <theowest> : 02:57:812 - both a VOCAL and NOTES
21:45 <theowest> : 02:57:812 - the LOOOOOOONG sound is more dominant than the small, short wubwubwubwub
21:45 <theowest> : listen
21:45 <theowest> : it is
21:45 <theowest> : 02:58:669 (2,3) - Self explainatory rly
21:45 <theowest> : 02:58:669 - perfectly is down there as the cursor is drawn towards THAT direction
21:46 <theowest> : 02:59:527 - a VERY good placement for this note
21:46 <theowest> : 02:59:527 (1,2,3) - almost starts to look like a star in shape together
21:46 <theowest> : 02:59:955 - TO MY is really just a slider, simple as that, and it makes everything better when it's pointed to the next note
21:47 <theowest> : 03:00:384 (1,2,3,4) - epic
21:47 <theowest> : sig sag
21:47 <theowest> : sick sack
21:47 <theowest> : back forth
21:47 <theowest> : awesome and not too hard 1/4 sliders
21:47 <theowest> : perfectly mapped to the wub
21:48 <theowest> : 03:01:241 - catches the cursor as it comes flying towards that direction and slowely throws you back to the right
21:48 <theowest> : 03:02:098 (2,3,4) - remember this sound? just like 02:55:241 (1,2,3) - JUST LIKE THAT, YES. THEY'RE THE FUCKING SAME
21:48 <theowest> : so It's mirrored
21:48 <theowest> : and used perfect
21:49 <theowest> : the player will get a sense of the awesome feel (oh wow, I know this, this is great, sound good (but you guys modded my hitsounds
21:49 <theowest> : >:, I will change them back later on) and the go up and the music does too, AWESOME))
21:50 <theowest> : 03:02:955 - this one points to the previous note
21:50 <theowest> : 003:03:812 - this one is mirrored but also tilted and moved
21:50 <theowest> : 03:02:955 - the VOCALS are dominant
21:50 <theowest> : not the wub wub
21:51 <theowest> : at this specific part
21:51 <theowest> : 03:04:669 (1,2,3) - triangle
21:51 <theowest> : looks good
21:51 <theowest> : almost tilted a bit, layed down as it's relaxed. looking all cool and shit
21:51 <theowest> : aw yeah
21:52 <theowest> : 03:05:527 (1,2) - duuruu duuruu
21:52 <theowest> : it's also mapped to vocals AND the wub!
21:53 <theowest> : it's mirrored to a short extent, as they're placed on the far right on the screen and both seem to look at eachother and play a game of
21:53 <theowest> : tennis (when the cursor or player is the ball)
21:53 <theowest> : smooth and round
21:53 <theowest> : 03:06:384 (1,2,3,4) - DUN DUN, DUN DUN
21:53 <theowest> : two notes stick together in the total of 4 notes
21:53 <theowest> : they're mirrored
21:53 <theowest> : and the finish creats a barried between the next distance
21:55 <theowest> : the slider points back to the last note on the stream http://puu.sh/rt6W and is PERFECTLY mapped to the music just awesomely
21:55 <theowest> : 03:07:241 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - here
21:56 <theowest> : Now the next is this, a somewhat round but star shaped hexagonetic shape http://puu.sh/rt81
21:56 <theowest> : doublets two, creats variation as it's NEVER used anywhere else in the beatmap from what I can see
21:57 <theowest> : 03:10:027 (2,3,4) - wide spaced 1/4s which feels awesome and aren't too hard at all!
21:57 <theowest> : man that looks god
21:57 <theowest> : good*
21:57 <theowest> : 03:10:669 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - creates a smooth variation between the wub with a stream of notes as it begins to sing with vocals
21:57 <theowest> : it's round
21:57 <theowest> : curved
21:57 <theowest> : tilted
21:57 <theowest> : and gives a sense of 3d
21:58 <theowest> : 3D*
21:58 <theowest> : 03:11:527 - dominant VOCAL slider
21:58 <theowest> : DOMINANT DAMMIT
21:58 <theowest> : 03:11:955 - ends as it points to the next slider downwards
21:58 <theowest> : 03:12:384 (1,2) - same as before, duuruu, duuruu
21:58 <theowest> : yknow the drill there
21:59 <theowest> : 03:13:241 - imagine a note in front going naturally towards the empty space where nothing is currently mapped and then THIS shows
21:59 <theowest> : up afterwards, now that's an awesome feeling when you play
21:59 <theowest> : it goes backwards
21:59 <theowest> : inverted
21:59 <theowest> : back
22:00 <theowest> : as the music change back to vocals VERY SUDDENLY from the duuruu, duuruu
22:00 <theowest> : yknow
22:01 <theowest> : 03:13:455 - points up as a slider, mapped dominantly with the vocals, points up to the last note and quite a nice and perfect
22:01 <theowest> : placement too, which creates a round field in round gridding http://puu.sh/rtbw
22:02 <theowest> : 03:14:098 (1,2,3,4,5) - round stream, mapped to the wub wub
22:02 <theowest> : and the slider is a DOMINANT VOCAL as the music PROVES
22:02 <theowest> : goes up to create a circle like shape all together
22:02 <theowest> : 03:14:955 - inverted goes down slider, as the music changes and takes ANOTHER direction (this is really the only way it can go)
22:03 <theowest> : 03:15:598 - continued to go right, ends there
22:03 <theowest> : 03:15:812 - duuruu, duuruu, is pointing to that last note there
22:03 <theowest> : and is botch mirrored BUT the second one is REVERSE and it points back to the last duuruu slider
22:04 <theowest> : but downwards as it's mirrored obviously
22:04 <theowest> : 03:16:669 - up it goes!
22:04 <theowest> : 03:16:884 (2,3,4) - wub wub wub
22:04 <theowest> : 03:17:527 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ROUND, THREE DIMENSIONAL SHAPE OF STREAMING, VIRIATION
22:04 <theowest> : LIKE A FUCKING RAINBOOOOOOW
22:05 <theowest> : 03:18:384 - ENDS PERFECTLY right so that it throws the player to the next notes of streams
22:05 <theowest> : 03:18:598 (10,11,12,13,14,15) - here, smooth wave
22:05 <theowest> : 03:19:241 (1,2) - DUURUU, DUURUU, mirrored, just like everywhere else
22:05 <theowest> : 03:20:098 - points to this slider going UP
22:06 <theowest> : 03:20:741 - as the slider just turned left, the obvious move would be to put a note on the right side
22:06 <theowest> : as smoothness witha round edge of the slider and placed there just perfectly
22:07 <theowest> : 03:20:955 - different tone in music, DOMINANT vocals, continues to go to the right
22:07 <theowest> : 03:21:384 (4,5,6,7,1) - goes down, it's the obvious thing to do with this stream
22:07 <theowest> : 03:21:812 - slider continues to go down
22:07 <theowest> : 03:22:455 - goes back a step in direction
22:08 <theowest> : 03:22:669 (1,2) - DUURUU, DUURUU
22:08 <theowest> : mirrored
22:08 <theowest> : that however is something I'm thinking of changing
22:08 <theowest> : might have it 90 degrees tilted upwards or downwards in the future
22:08 <theowest> : might be even better that way
22:09 <theowest> : 03:23:527 - and my part is done
22:09 <theowest> : I hope you understand what's going on in my brain now
22:09 <theowest> : now if you have even the SLIGHTEST COMPLAIN
22:09 <theowest> : don't fucking make an ass out of yourself and just say (derp it's ugly) FUCKING EXPLAIN DAMMIT
22:09 <theowest> : just like I did
22:09 <theowest> : OVER 2 HOURS
22:09 <theowest> : yeah
22:09 <theowest> : I wasted my time so much
22:10 <theowest> : for you all to understand
22:10 <theowest> : I'm angry as hell.
22:10 <theowest> : My part, my rules
22:10 <theowest> : I'm not going to give a shit about your parts. It's YOUR MAPPING, YOUR WAYS
22:10 <theowest> : that's what a COLLAB is all about!!
22:11 <theowest> : go ahead and play 10 collabs
22:11 <theowest> : come back and think for a second
22:11 <theowest> : you might say to yourself
22:11 <theowest> : "wow, that sure as hell was pretty variant and it gives my brain stimulance of VARIATION"
22:11 <theowest> : and NEW THINGS
22:12 <theowest> : To be honest, I couldn't tell your pats a part
22:12 <theowest> : looked the same to me
22:12 <theowest> : You need my part, or else this "collab" isn't even a collab
22:12 <theowest> : it's just one simple diff, mapped the SAME SIMPLE BORING WAY
22:12 <theowest> : FUUCK THAT
22:13 <theowest> : You hurt me today. I turned that into rage, in order to mod this.
22:13 <theowest> : I hope I haven't offended anybody, hell, you guys shouldn't be offended, you don't have aspergers.
22:13 <theowest> : why should you?
22:13 <theowest> : You are the ones insulting my part without even explaining WHY!
22:14 <theowest> : Explain WHY next time.
22:14 <theowest> : I'm done here.
22:14 <theowest> : Good night

Also.
grumd, I spent a total of 7 hours making hitsounds for your own whole beatmap. Because I liked you. I thought you'd be happy with it. I hope you can make it up to me by making him understand.

I won't dissonant btw, I will make a few changes, I'll try to map just a bit more like the way you guys do. Here's another star for the hell of it!

Oh and I should have a kudosu for this post. It's a mod afterall, and I heard he added a few of my mods for a while.

Hope you understand I mean no harm or offence at all. I'm just trying to express myself. I like this beatmap.

Good night to both of you.

Edit: oh there's about 50 images here as puush links. Please look at them and connect them to the text next to them.