Why would I answer that in any scenario?Sync wrote:
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you can't even lie or tell the truth? Okay.
A question like it is pointless to answer and will always be full of wifom. Just like when asking someone if they're mafia in a normal game, which I've said basically that exact same response to before.bmin11 wrote:
you can't even lie or tell the truth? Okay.
Though, I don't see how it could ever be a problem to say your alignment. It gives away nothing. Absolutely nothing. Why so secretive?
"Are you jester?"bmin11 wrote:
Though, I don't see how it could ever be a problem to say your alignment. It gives away nothing. Absolutely nothing. Why so secretive?
I say no.
I'm town being truthful.
I'm mafia being truthful.
I'm jester lying.
I'm third party being truthful.
Any of the above could have other plans behind why I say no, on top of the obvious.
I say yes.
I'm town lying. (Maybe I have a power role? Mafia is looking for town.)
I'm mafia lying. (Oh hey, don't lynch me I'm jester.)
I'm jester telling the truth. (Jester would never claim jester, right?)
I'm third party lying. (Oh hey, don't lynch me I'm jester.)
Or other reasons I could claim jester.
It's a bunch of wifom.
It would be much easier for me to say yes/no, but I always have and always will hate being asked that question as there's absolutely no point to asking it. Therefore, I will generally respond exactally like this every time I'm asked it, until people stop asking it. (I've been asked before.)
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On the topic of the game: I doubt bmin's town. Leaning mafia/third over jester.
I'm the mod.Salvage wrote:
LS are you a jester
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Oh no I'm contradicting myself by not responding the same way!
AND I'm lying!
AND I'm lying!
Cause I think Rantai's clever enough to pull off being that bold while a jester to trick us into voting and lynching her with a no-lynch plan claiming survivor.Salvage wrote:
Ok now seriously, why are you not voting rantai
So basically, I'm not voting rantai cause I'm too busy wifoming it in my head. I'm more convinced that rantai's a jester than a third party.
If it were one of the newer players I wouldn't be worried.
Drakari claimed survivor too and we have our two third party members right there, no other third party member counter claimed so having 2 survivors completes it, that's what made me almost sure he's not lying .. and i say almost cause there are other possibilities
I'd be more sure of Drakari being the actual survivor, if there even is one. With 11 jesters, we could have as many survivor claims as jesters that feel like claiming survivor.Salvage wrote:
Drakari claimed survivor too and we have our two third party members right there, no other third party member counter claimed so having 2 survivors completes it, that's what made me almost sure he's not lying .. and i say almost cause there are other possibilities
If anything, I'd think our third party would look like:
SK
Cult
Lyncher
Maybe survivor instead of cult, as I'm not sure mara would use cult, and it'd be pretty powerful in this game.
Scratch the bottom, I re-read the OP and saw it said 2 3rd party instead of three. Just remove cult and that looks right to me. SK + Lyncher.LadySuburu wrote:
I'd be more sure of Drakari being the actual survivor, if there even is one. With 11 jesters, we could have as many survivor claims as jesters that feel like claiming survivor.Salvage wrote:
Drakari claimed survivor too and we have our two third party members right there, no other third party member counter claimed so having 2 survivors completes it, that's what made me almost sure he's not lying .. and i say almost cause there are other possibilities
If anything, I'd think our third party would look like:
SK
Cult
Lyncher
Maybe survivor instead of cult, as I'm not sure mara would use cult, and it'd be pretty powerful in this game.
I prefer the town over the mafia, since the town has no reason to kill me at all.Salvage wrote:
do you drakari agree on sharing the win with town and not mafia
Cool then we can procced, i'm cool with winning with Drakari
we'll need to scan him eventually anyways to be sure he's not mafia .. but for now we'll need the rest of the ppl to vote for rantai, i'm going to sleep guys cya tommorrow ^__^.
we'll need to scan him eventually anyways to be sure he's not mafia .. but for now we'll need the rest of the ppl to vote for rantai, i'm going to sleep guys cya tommorrow ^__^.
maybe LS and Rantai are scum buddies
@LS
lol I love how we both agree that the answer won't give away anything, and yet we somehow argue. Anyway, I get your point that you were annoyed by those questions kk
lol I love how we both agree that the answer won't give away anything, and yet we somehow argue. Anyway, I get your point that you were annoyed by those questions kk
What the hell guys.
You're taking Drakari's word over mine? >_>
Seriously though lynching me will put the indies/jesters into parity and really the only way you're going to win is through sheer luck at that point.
You're taking Drakari's word over mine? >_>
Seriously though lynching me will put the indies/jesters into parity and really the only way you're going to win is through sheer luck at that point.
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Explain that cause i don't get it .. you were propposing a similar lynch on a town member, lynching an indie is no different than that and it actually could go with town and jesters together. (yes i already stated that i don't care about some jesters winning cause well we can't do a perfect win anyways)
Explain that cause i don't get it .. you were propposing a similar lynch on a town member, lynching an indie is no different than that and it actually could go with town and jesters together. (yes i already stated that i don't care about some jesters winning cause well we can't do a perfect win anyways)
Once town eliminates all mafia and non jesters, game over.
If all town are eliminated, the game can continue onto meta jester lynching and dual win all indies and mafia (+jester)
But hey whatever, your choice.
If all town are eliminated, the game can continue onto meta jester lynching and dual win all indies and mafia (+jester)
But hey whatever, your choice.
Vote: Salvage
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Miakni = Mafia.
Rantai himself says that the only ones that could be in favor of that are mafia, Jesters can win with town too and i'm up to that, the amount of Jesters that can win with town are higher that the ones that can win with Mafia, mafia needs to kill 7 towns and town needs to kill 4 mafia, aka more jester lynches available right there
So voting me is mafia, and there goes Mianki softclaim, Rantai is being mafia too right now so i don't acre if he's indie, he's playing for maria and should be lynched.
Miakni = Mafia.
Rantai himself says that the only ones that could be in favor of that are mafia, Jesters can win with town too and i'm up to that, the amount of Jesters that can win with town are higher that the ones that can win with Mafia, mafia needs to kill 7 towns and town needs to kill 4 mafia, aka more jester lynches available right there
So voting me is mafia, and there goes Mianki softclaim, Rantai is being mafia too right now so i don't acre if he's indie, he's playing for maria and should be lynched.
Maria~
Anyway anyone voting for Salvage is for everyone BUT town. Mafia, indie, whatever. You can call them mafia all you want but it doesn't change that fact.
And again in the end, it's in the best interests of all factions not called town to go along with lynching town. Because think about it. Maybe 1 jester will win if you follow town. And mafia only has a 50/50 chance to win.
But if you like following the whims of town then by all means shoot your foot.
Anyway anyone voting for Salvage is for everyone BUT town. Mafia, indie, whatever. You can call them mafia all you want but it doesn't change that fact.
And again in the end, it's in the best interests of all factions not called town to go along with lynching town. Because think about it. Maybe 1 jester will win if you follow town. And mafia only has a 50/50 chance to win.
But if you like following the whims of town then by all means shoot your foot.
You don't argument anything rantai and you're actually wrong, i stated it on the previous post:
Town needs 4 mafia lynches, mafia needs 7 town lynches (unless mafia hits town but that's something we can't calculate), so Town has more space to let jesters win, and regarding that and me being now ok with letting some jesters win as long as we end up lynching mafia too, jesters shouldn't vote town, indies could do anything so it doesn't matter (and you're siding with mafia, bad choice right there that's why u enter in the mafia category) and town shouldn't lynch town neither (duh) .. so again everyone who votes me is Mafia for that simple fact
I'm allways argumenting what i say, you on the other hand aren't, so get your facts straight before posting cause as long as it is right now i'm right and you're not and you siding with mafia leads to your death, that's how it works right now.
Town needs 4 mafia lynches, mafia needs 7 town lynches (unless mafia hits town but that's something we can't calculate), so Town has more space to let jesters win, and regarding that and me being now ok with letting some jesters win as long as we end up lynching mafia too, jesters shouldn't vote town, indies could do anything so it doesn't matter (and you're siding with mafia, bad choice right there that's why u enter in the mafia category) and town shouldn't lynch town neither (duh) .. so again everyone who votes me is Mafia for that simple fact
I'm allways argumenting what i say, you on the other hand aren't, so get your facts straight before posting cause as long as it is right now i'm right and you're not and you siding with mafia leads to your death, that's how it works right now.
laughing so fucking hard
'anyone who votes for me is mafia'
are you taking the piss?
'anyone who votes for me is mafia'
are you taking the piss?
Salvage wrote:
Town needs 4 mafia lynches, mafia needs 7 town lynches (unless mafia hits town but that's something we can't calculate), so Town has more space to let jesters win, and regarding that and me being now ok with letting some jesters win as long as we end up lynching mafia too, jesters shouldn't vote town, indies could do anything so it doesn't matter (and you're siding with mafia, bad choice right there that's why u enter in the mafia category) and town shouldn't lynch town neither (duh) .. so again everyone who votes me is Mafia for that simple fact
Town: No lynch, no lynch, no lynch, no lycnh... oh oops. If town successfully lynch ALL mafia, they automatically win unless there is an SK. IF the mafia decide to work with the jesters (possible, no idea if they will) then lynching ALL town leaves the jesters and mafia free to lynch all the jesters. See the pattern? Try again.
I'm allways argumenting what i say, you on the other hand aren't, so get your facts straight before posting cause as long as it is right now i'm right and you're not and you siding with mafia leads to your death, that's how it works right now.
So far you have spouted information that ONLY benefits town. Again, try again.
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wtf are you saying Rantai, if Mafia kills all the Town they win too, think before posting omg o.o
I'm saying everything about this game, i want to win with town but i allways said all the possibilties this game has.
wtf are you saying Rantai, if Mafia kills all the Town they win too, think before posting omg o.o
I'm saying everything about this game, i want to win with town but i allways said all the possibilties this game has.
Mafia requires a 50% majority.
Last I checked 13 indies and 4 mafia is NOT majority.
Last I checked 13 indies and 4 mafia is NOT majority.
Oh unless Mara decided to put in the 50% against town. Then we'd need one town member alive.
Any mafia ballsy enough to tell us the win condition?
Any mafia ballsy enough to tell us the win condition?
For the record, I doubt it's tied to town.
I myself tell you that regardless of how the facts are i'm willing to give jesters a win, you're looking at things from facts, we have to lynch 4 mafia and we have a lot of misslynches that we can use to give Jesters a win, you're basing all your argument on me wanting a no lynch to not give jesters any win, that changed and i'm willing to do so, and your argument becames invalid
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With that said when i say that everyone who votes me is mafia i'm actually right cause it's not on anyone else agenda to kill town, actually if you're point would in any paralel world make sense and actually be better than mine, you should be aiming for a jester lynch right now and not a Town one (unless you're mafia, and of course u want to lynch a town .. see how my point makes sense here?.)
Anyways it doesn't and unless you want to not play against jesters and town, you won't be able to win.
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With that said when i say that everyone who votes me is mafia i'm actually right cause it's not on anyone else agenda to kill town, actually if you're point would in any paralel world make sense and actually be better than mine, you should be aiming for a jester lynch right now and not a Town one (unless you're mafia, and of course u want to lynch a town .. see how my point makes sense here?.)
Anyways it doesn't and unless you want to not play against jesters and town, you won't be able to win.
Unfortunately for you, your word means nothing. So saying my argument is invalid is as valid as me saying your argument is invalid. You see here, the moment you decide to backpedal on that statement is the moment you screw every jester over. Also lynching jesters now will only have the jesters shot at night, denying some of them their win.
If they collaborate, all the jesters can win and the mafia can win with them. Is that so hard to see? Actually it's extremely funny that you cannot (will not?) deny that if they did work together, that would happen. Your entire selling point is that you give SOME jesters a chance to win.
My method gives ALL jesters a chance to win and mafia. Yeah town get the shaft though but I'm not worried about that.
If they collaborate, all the jesters can win and the mafia can win with them. Is that so hard to see? Actually it's extremely funny that you cannot (will not?) deny that if they did work together, that would happen. Your entire selling point is that you give SOME jesters a chance to win.
My method gives ALL jesters a chance to win and mafia. Yeah town get the shaft though but I'm not worried about that.
Rantai you are giving jesters and mafia a chance to win but you yourself claimed independent (survivor?) and Darkari COUNTERCLAIMEd that role IIRC so it is pretty obvious you have a hidden agenda here. Your plan is pretty transparent and doesn't even work. Every Jester should be skeptical about that because odds are in favor of them yeah but you want a definite win. And the way you're planning it is for mafia to kill all the town and no jester to die which is basically impossible
Besides the point that it won't give all the jesters a win for obvious reasons (some will be killed off and stuff like that), you have no word mafia will work with jesters (unless ur softclaiming mafia and saying so? lol), and they have mine that town will
I have to study now so i don't have time to do the maths on how many jesters can win along with town, but i'm pretty sure it's a high amount of them as long as we kill mafia in between making their '50% of the votes' lower and lower.
My word means what it shows, i don't know what do you mean when you say 'your word means nothing', you're aregument is invalid when it loses effectivity against mine, not cause it's yours and not mine.
I have to study now so i don't have time to do the maths on how many jesters can win along with town, but i'm pretty sure it's a high amount of them as long as we kill mafia in between making their '50% of the votes' lower and lower.
My word means what it shows, i don't know what do you mean when you say 'your word means nothing', you're aregument is invalid when it loses effectivity against mine, not cause it's yours and not mine.
Well depending on the integrity of the mafia, they can simply no kill. Yes, the risk of mislynching a jester is prett... OH WAIT.
Drakari could be town, that counterclaim is just a gambit and nothing more. Again if you think I have an agenda (as a survivor/sk/whatever) then by all means deny me later. I know you think I'm an SK, I promise you I cannot shoot (oh how I wish I could) but if 2 kills happen tonight then put my head on the chopping block. I am confident that an SK doesn't actually exist (Why? Gut feeling)
Drakari could be town, that counterclaim is just a gambit and nothing more. Again if you think I have an agenda (as a survivor/sk/whatever) then by all means deny me later. I know you think I'm an SK, I promise you I cannot shoot (oh how I wish I could) but if 2 kills happen tonight then put my head on the chopping block. I am confident that an SK doesn't actually exist (Why? Gut feeling)
As you love to say. Show me your evidence so I can shoot you down like no tomorrow.Salvage wrote:
Fluff that has been covered.
My word means what it shows, i don't know what do you mean when you say 'your word means nothing', you're aregument is invalid when it loses effectivity against mine, not cause it's yours and not mine.
Basically your word is worth as much as mine (or mafia's I guess depending on the situation).
Try again.
There goes your argument again, you say mafia could do a no kill (what the fuck? ..) and help jesters win and then you say that i can backpedal on what i'm saying and screw jesters (which i won't btw), the mafia one not doing a no kill is way higher than me actually helping Jesters, cause if i don't i get lynched and that's it.
You still have time to change sides, i don't know why you're so stubborn with mafia when it's not the best choice at all, town can give more jester wins than mafia and you still siding with mafia points pro-mafia and pro-mafia only, i don't know how many times i said it already .. i have to study right now so i'll make some extra time later to post-.
You still have time to change sides, i don't know why you're so stubborn with mafia when it's not the best choice at all, town can give more jester wins than mafia and you still siding with mafia points pro-mafia and pro-mafia only, i don't know how many times i said it already .. i have to study right now so i'll make some extra time later to post-.
Salvage you're not confirmed town for christ's sake
In fact scratch that you're not town at all, you're mafia
Hey Rantai you're a survivor why don't you just
y'know
survive
In fact scratch that you're not town at all, you're mafia
Hey Rantai you're a survivor why don't you just
y'know
survive
Salvage wrote:
There goes your argument again, you say mafia could do a no kill (what the fuck? ..) and help jesters win and then you say that i can backpedal on what i'm saying and screw jesters (which i won't btw), the mafia one not doing a no kill is way higher than me actually helping Jesters, cause if i don't i get lynched and that's it.
Implying you are the whole town and they will follow you. Also implying you aren't capable of lying. Both of which cannot be proven (well first can). I wish I could say the mafia are integral but I cannot claim such things. However, going this path (for the mafia) guarantees their win while also opening the opportunity to let all jesters win. Worst case scenario the mafia will still have to follow through with keeping the jesters alive until all town are dead from there at least half of the jesters can still win (if not more). Oh unless they really want to pull an ass move and shoot jesters at night which then becomes exactly what you propose (win-win anyone?)
And again (for what the 10th time?) if they follow the town then they're going to have to hope to hell that town cannot scumhunt for their life (because they'd have to mislynch at least 6 times to equal the minimum number of jesters to win from the alternative, assuming mafia are smart enough to wait for all town lynches) and they are also under threat from mafia random shooting
You still have time to change sides, i don't know why you're so stubborn with mafia when it's not the best choice at all, town can give more jester wins than mafia and you still siding with mafia points pro-mafia and pro-mafia only, i don't know how many times i said it already .. i have to study right now so i'll make some extra time later to post
Why would I change side for the option that gives the least chance to win to the most factions? I addressed the second part above.
@Mashley - it's more fun this way.
I just want to see town lynched in some backwards game outcome. It just so happens that this particular set up actually facilitates it perfectly.
I just want to see town lynched in some backwards game outcome. It just so happens that this particular set up actually facilitates it perfectly.
Also I'm doing my best to not be an ass about this. If I come off anything offensive (minus condescending) do tell me to tone it down. My entire intention is to create a situation that goes against the norm.
Isn't that the whole point of this game?
Isn't that the whole point of this game?