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Rantai
For the sake of fun and giggles I beseech you jesters and indie to rise up against our town oppressors and show them the power of the jesters (and indies).
Wojjan
vash bandwagoning on salvage
Rantai
Makes him pro-jester to me, good.

If you are anti-jester, you are to be lynched.
TBTE
Sign me up for Replacement.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
I've said it before. I'm as town as town can be.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
...wait. I just realized, that means nothing at this moment.

I honestly don't care who wins.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

...wait. I just realized, that means nothing at this moment.

I honestly don't care who wins.
..as long as it's not mafia.
Wojjan

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

I've said it before. I'm as town as town can be.
get the townie
vote: vash
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

Wojjan wrote:

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

I've said it before. I'm as town as town can be.
get the townie
vote: vash
Yes, because I'm never townie. >_> (In your eyes, that is)
roufou
Vote: No-lynch


Im mean and won't simply let a survivor win by stating their wincon, scum should NK a jester if they want to win, if that wasn't obvious.
Rantai
^ clearly mafia.
roufou
If jesters are going to overthrow town and mafia, I'd rather cooperate with mafia for the first days instead of letting the jesters lynch us.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
I'm gonna laugh really hard when this strategy goes to waste, 'cause in the long run, it's not that helpful at all.

I mean, sure, there are 11 jesters out there, but does that really mean you should give a damn that they're there? Nah. Going for a 100% no-lynch strategy doesn't necessarily mean that you'll get jesters every single time. Hell, even the mafia could do something like "Let's NK this guy" or "Let's NK that guy". It's all pointless for town to try to side with the mafia. I wouldn't even be surprised if Salvage IS mafia, to be honest.
Rantai
Vote Salvage and you may just be spared for now, guy.

Besides we'll need some townies to lynch the jesters. It's all down to if you want to co-operate or die by the hands of the mob.

And it's more hilarious this way.
Salvage
I propose two options for town and mafia if Jesters do really want to do what Rantai is doing.



We quickly do a No-Lynch and keep on going against the jesters denying that from happening, or we hammer the indie (possible jester too) and go on with the same idea ignoring that awfull plan.



So basically we can do a no lynch and i'll scan Rantai to make sure he's not a jester and lynch him tommorrow, and we can arrange here who Mafia should kill here, town and mafia should work together atleast till Jesters are a minimun of people .. or we can lynch Rantai asap and risk him being a Jester (i personally do not like this choice but it's one to take in mind).



Either the need of making a target for mafia to kill it's needed cause otherwise we'll be facing the same jester problem again tommorrow.




So here is my suggest: No lynch today, mafia kills Sync i scan Rantai.


any objections?
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Even though he claimed survivor, and you want to lynch him.


Smart thinking, Salvage.


/sarcasm
Rantai
Again you don't have the majority, Salvage.

Even if you convinced every mafia and town to work with you, you'll be 3 votes short.
Salvage
?



explain that swift please cause i don't get what you mean .. we'd be lynching someone who isn't town and jester .. so it would help town also taking in mind he has anti town iniciatives he's suggesting.
Salvage

Rantai wrote:

Again you don't have the majority, Salvage.

Even if you convinced every mafia and town to work with you, you'll be 3 votes short.


activeness > mayoritiy.




bring them all up and we'll talk then
Rantai
--> implying town is active

Besides we have a week.

Also requesting a vote count somewhere please.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
You do a no-lynch, and you get a 0% chance of hitting town, mafia, and jesters. Cool, but wouldn't you rather try to hit a mafia instead? Sure, odds are, you'll hit a jester, but think about it for a moment, would you rather go for a lynch and at least TRY to get a mafia instead of doing this no-lynch strategy?

Now, about the survivor. Why do you want to lynch a survivor in the first place? Unless he really IS a jester (which I doubt, by the way), I don't think doing this is a good idea.
roufou
I'd rather like it if jesters actually earned their win by being lynch-able, I guess I may change my mind later in the day :s
Rantai
Earning their win is by banding together and forcing it instead of milling around hoping to be lynched.

No?
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Jesters WANT to get voted for.

I don't. ...nor do I know why Wojjan is voting for me.
Salvage

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

You do a no-lynch, and you get a 0% chance of hitting town, mafia, and jesters. Cool, but wouldn't you rather try to hit a mafia instead? Sure, odds are, you'll hit a jester, but think about it for a moment, would you rather go for a lynch and at least TRY to get a mafia instead of doing this no-lynch strategy?

Now, about the survivor. Why do you want to lynch a survivor in the first place? Unless he really IS a jester (which I doubt, by the way), I don't think doing this is a good idea.


i wouldn't try to hit mafia instead cause that would give jesters more advantage against town, we need to cooperate with mafia to take the jesters away from the picture and take some mafias in the proccess, then play a traditional game after that, if we take mafia at the beginning it's a free win for atleast 70% of the jesters and a possible high chances of loosing for town.



the no-lynch strategy can break all this cons regarding the town dissadvantage against the jesters if mafia works with town atleast the first two days


about lynching the indie it's just because he's having several anti-town suggestions and that doesn't help us at all.
Rantai
Simple, you're not a jester.

Though I'd still rather see Salvage lynched because you seem to not be against us, for now.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
..You know what would be hilarious?

I'm restating my earlier claim about Salvage, by the way:

If he was a cop jester, but instead of winning by getting X amount of jester searches, he gets a power for every jester he searches. I dunno what, but it's possible.
Rantai

Salvage wrote:

i wouldn't try to hit mafia instead cause that would give jesters more advantage against town, we need to cooperate with mafia to take the jesters away from the picture and take some mafias in the proccess, then play a traditional game after that, if we take mafia at the beginning it's a free win for atleast 70% of the jesters and a possible high chances of loosing for town.
Hey mafia, do you really want to help this backstabbing 2 timer?

At least I'm open about my intentions and hey who knows, if you kill the town instead of jesters and then lynch them one by one, you'll actually have majority and win too. Because there will eventually be 0 town and 2 jesters assuming me and the other indie live. It's actually very beneficial to you because EVERYONE wins except town.
Salvage

Rantai wrote:

Simple, you're not a jester.

Though I'd still rather see Salvage lynched because you seem to not be against us, for now.


is that a jester claim
roufou
Jesters can't really overthrow us if we lynch one Day1, do they? If Im forced to lynch a jester I will probably do so, but I won't just give them a free win!
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

Rantai wrote:

Salvage wrote:

i wouldn't try to hit mafia instead cause that would give jesters more advantage against town, we need to cooperate with mafia to take the jesters away from the picture and take some mafias in the proccess, then play a traditional game after that, if we take mafia at the beginning it's a free win for atleast 70% of the jesters and a possible high chances of loosing for town.
Hey mafia, do you really want to help this backstabbing 2 timer?

At least I'm open about my intentions and hey who knows, if you kill the town instead of jesters and then lynch them one by one, you'll actually have majority and win too. Because there will eventually be 0 town and 2 jesters assuming me and the other indie live. It's actually very beneficial to you because EVERYONE wins except town.
And the two other jesters.

Or, you could do it the other way, and have the mafia killed off, which could lessen (or increase) the number of jester wins.
Rantai
Take it as you want. We indies will have our day.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

AGUYWITHTHENAME wrote:

Jesters can't really overthrow us if we lynch one Day1, do they? If Im forced to lynch a jester I will probably do so, but I won't just give them a free win!
The game doesn't end if a jester wins, if I recall. It continues normally.

Mod: Can you confirm this, please?
Rantai
Well you see, there are less mafia to deal with than town.

Actually I just realised if the mafia are willing to kill off two/three of their own all jesters and indies can win with the mafia.
Topic Starter
Mara
VOTE STATUS

No Lynch (8) - Drakari, Ekaru, Salvage, bmin11, pieguy1372, Quaraezha, AGUYWITHTHENAME
Salvage (3) - Mashley, Rantai, Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Sync (2) - Lybydose, DeathxShinigami
Rantai (1) - Sync
Swiftwolf Yellowtail (1) - Wojjan

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

The game doesn't end if a jester wins, if I recall. It continues normally.

Mod: Can you confirm this, please?
Correct, game doesn't end if a jester wins.
roufou
I don't think so either, but I won't just let third parties get their wins, it's like giving someone a reward they don't deserve!
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Except survivors can easily get a joint win with town (or mafia, since they're neutral)
Rantai
That's fine, at least I know you're town/mafia.

You remaining jesters/indies vote Salvage if you want a good chance at winning this. Mafia if you want in on this too, just vote Salvage.

Town must burn.
Rantai
Oh yeah @Salvage - it doesn't even matter what I am (Jester or Survivor) because in the end I'm still working towards the same goal (if you really really think I am jester I am willing to never be lynched in order for another jester to win)

In the end not being lynched helps my agenda both ways so yeah post digging won't help you here ^_^
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

LunaticMara wrote:

VOTE STATUS

No Lynch (8) - Drakari, Ekaru, Salvage, bmin11, pieguy1372, Quaraezha, AGUYWITHTHENAME
Salvage (3) - Mashley, Rantai, Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Sync (2) - Lybydose, DeathxShinigami
Rantai (1) - Sync
Swiftwolf Yellowtail (1) - Wojjan

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

The game doesn't end if a jester wins, if I recall. It continues normally.

Mod: Can you confirm this, please?
Correct, game doesn't end if a jester wins.
Mod: You miscalculated the people that voted for a no lynch. I see seven people, yet it says eight.
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