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LiLA'c Records - Existence value and Firm faith feat.irony

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Yasora
fixed collab part from 02:10:878 until 02:26:292 ..copas it

and fixed gd from D.N's mod

thank you

Download: LiLA'c Records - Existence value and Firm faith (Leorda) [Yasora's Hard].osu

Download: LiLA'c Records - Existence value and Firm faith (Leorda) [Collab].osu
Rei Hakurei
here~
ATTACH[LiLA'c Records - Existence value and Firm faith (Leorda) [Another Rei's Part].osu]
remapped part that garven complaints ^^

removed some streams, greater jump ?

Download: LiLA'c Records - Existence value and Firm faith (Leorda) [Another Rei's Part].osu
shikyu
LaceWingfield
i like this map :D
go for ranked ~! /puts it in my favorite
Topic Starter
Leorda
thx Garven and D.N.Angel for mod~

And thank you guys for remap that
Jzh Zehnichi
ertyukjh010


Hello, Leorda :)

[Normal]

02:05:706 (5,6,7,8,1) - A little difficult for new player. Delete 02:06:326 (8) better.
02:11:550 (1) - No 1/8 beat. Move to 02:11:706
03:03:637 (3) - Do not use the reverse 2 times or more, because the new players do not adapt, it is easy to overlook the second exhumation lead to the error. So only suggest to use reverse 1 time of sliders
03:23:913 (2) - Circle instead
03:24:326 () - follow this rhythm http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/301460
Difficult for easiest diff. I still suggest add a Easy diff. Call me if you need GD. I always map a Easy.

[Yasora's Hard]

01:49:982 (1,1) - Easy job.
02:48:533 (2) - Why 0.99x here?
02:50:188 (2) ^

[Insane]

Fine

[Collab]

OD-1, No OD8 if no special reasons.
00:39:637 (1,2,3,4) - Use a distance same with 00:39:119 (2,3) pls
00:52:361 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Why the distance is 1.60x here?
01:07:361 - useless inherited point.
01:07:464 - ^
01:07:671 - ^
02:37:982(8) - Why not new combo here lol
02:43:361 (4) - NC
02:55:982 (7) - ^
03:02:809 (1) - Make it symmetry or Horseshoe palm shape.
03:06:119 (1,2) - Part of a lot of this distance, it is very difficult, not suitable for this difficulty.
03:08:602 (3) - The distance with 03:08:395 (2) looking like same with 03:08:809 (4). It is unread.

That all~
Yasora
Rei Hakurei
02:37:982(8) - Why not new combo here lol
(maximum combo index lol)
hmmm i guess yes... yet, since this is my part.. i must responsible for this, not by telling the map owner to change it

Download: LiLA'c Records - Existence value and Firm faith (Leorda) [Another Rei's Part].osu
shikyu
spboxer3

:idea: general


  • Settings
    (For the setting/general issue.)
  1. none~

Normal




  • Hitsound
    (For my listened. Just some suggest for the hitsound.)
  1. 01:55:568 (1) - used 30~50% finish?
mapping
(These are about your pattern.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  1. 00:50:809 (1,2,3,4) - uneven spacing
  2. 00:53:706 (6) - NC. because It's a paragraph~ so I think you need add NC for this way~
  3. 02:23:085 (1,1,2) - It's covered by spinner text. please avoid it~
  4. 03:25:154 (3,4,1) - uneven spacing

Yasora's Hard



  • Overlaps
    (Some overlaps of notes/sliders in this diff don't look good. Here is a list of beats that overlap each other could space them farther apart. yep. It's just suggest and nazi. you can ignore this par)
  1. 02:15:430 (3,1) -
mapping
(These are about your pattern.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  1. 03:23:292 (2,3) - not stack on the turning point.I think you can make it layout batter.↓

Insane



  • mapping
    (These are about your pattern.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  1. 00:31:361 (3,1) - [nazi] It's haven't make it stack~ It's looks like a bit depart off
  2. 02:37:982 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - uneven spacing
  3. 02:51:223 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - ^ e.g: 02:51:947 (8,1,2) -
  4. 03:10:257 (5,6,1) - uneven spacing


Collab


  • Settings
    (For the setting. like Song Setup/timing or break time~)
  1. unused green line:
    01:58:671 -
Hitsound
(For my listened. Just some suggest for the hitsound.)
  • Jzh Zehnichi's part
  1. 03:59:085 (14) - finish
mapping
(These are about your pattern.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)

  • shikyu's part:
  1. 00:40:671 (2,3) - make it stack. It's pretty then now, I think.
  2. 00:43:154 (3,4) - ^
  3. 00:52:050 - to 00:53:706 - . I think It's need add more object at this part. it's very strange to me right now :< .


    Niva's part:
  4. 01:21:844 (1,3) - make it stack.


    Yasora-chan's part:
  5. 02:07:568 (3,4,1) - parallel it. you can make the layout better~
  6. 02:18:740 (2,3,4) - not on the same line? try to move to x:280, y:80 ?


    Rei_Fan49's part:
  7. 02:25:671 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1) - uneven spacing.
  8. 02:36:119 (6,2) - spacing. It's just like 02:36:533 (2,4) - 's spacing. but it's different now :<


    Frizz925's part:
  9. 03:02:809 (1) - awkward arc for this slider. you can make this pattern layout better...

    Jzh Zehnichi's part
  10. 03:49:154 (15) - NC at this way and reNC at 03:49:568 (1) -
  11. 03:54:740 (7,8) - not on the same x axis?
  12. 03:59:085 (14) - NC
red is unrankable issue. bule is need to discuss. Black is just suggest.

well~ that's all
good luck
Yasora
Jzh Zehnichi
Aoitenshi

ertyukjh010 wrote:



03:06:119 (1,2) - Part of a lot of this distance, it is very difficult, not suitable for this difficulty. That's what chorus is for, climaxing the difficulty.
03:08:602 (3) - The distance with 03:08:395 (2) looking like same with 03:08:809 (4). It is unread. It's... Pretty guessable.

That all~
Topic Starter
Leorda
thx spboxer for mod ^^
jossieP
hello, sorry I had some stuff on real world ;_;

also hello Indonesian Beatmapers Club!

anyway, modding here because of request

[General]

  1. Dont know why I just can download the [Collab] diff, yes when I download this map with the forum thread link and score board link it just comes with the [Collab] diff, maybe a full submit may fix this, I taken manually the other diffs to mod this
    And yes, I downloaded this 3 times!!
  2. Aaand nope, are not the same irony vocals

[Normal]

Well is over 3,00 star rating, lets see if we can decrease it
  1. 00:29:706 (3) - maybe make this slider 1/2 lenght and remove the repeat, also dont forget the whistle and clap to end, just if you change it
  2. 00:39:844 (5) - hmmm I think dont add whistle to end or start of the slider will enhance the sound of the song, personally I like moar if you remove the whistle from the end, dont know what you think
  3. 00:53:706 (6) - considerate to use default normal soundset to this circle, check the effect that it has with the normal finish
  4. 01:33:430 (1) - o: ↑?
  5. 01:49:982 (1) - hmm, remove this spinner and then check the star rating, long spinners increase the star rating, dunno why but specially when are 2 spinners in a row the star rating have a tendence to increase
  6. 02:09:844 (1) - ok, here I really cant see the why of the custom whistle on repeat, there is no custom whistle on previous hitobjects, so maybe change this with a finish may sounds a bit better? please check at this
  7. 02:11:550 (1) - I like the way that this sounds witouth finish :D maybe you dont
  8. 02:38:809 (5) - hmm, the finish of start sounds good, but again I like the way this sounds witouth finish, I say that the sound effect of the song is awesome and leave it more clean will be moar soft and nice to the ears
  9. 02:57:844 (1,2,3) - can you use a pattern like 02:56:188 (1,2,3)? just move 02:58:671 (2) - to 02:58:464
  10. 03:12:533 (7) - whistle? nice double custom whistle?
  11. 03:23:913 (2) - curve this to have a soft blanket with previous slider, maybe
    stuff
    376,144,203913,2,0,B|433:146|456:208,2,110,8|2|8
  12. 03:29:292 (3) - whistle to end, previous sliders sounds so nice


[Yasora /o/]

  1. 00:39:430 (5) - whistle to start/end? sounds pretty empty :o also whistle to 00:38:809 (4)
  2. 00:52:050 (4,5) - ↑
  3. 00:53:706 (1) - as [Normal] please check the effect of finish normal soundset
  4. 01:14:188 (3) - not sure at all of this blanket, may be better, is not a big difference but dont know
    SPOILER
    320,100,74188,2,0,B|360:132|344:192|344:192|368:244,1,140
  5. 01:15:637 (2) - red control point 2 grids down, less change on blanket x.x
  6. 01:33:430 (1) - normal soundset please
  7. 02:52:878 ~ need moar creative patterns and rhythms for kiai time /o/


[Insane]

  1. 00:31:361 (3) - why dont use the custom slider tick for the tick on here o:?
  2. 00:33:430 (3) - ahm dont like this custom whistle here >_<
  3. 00:39:844 (3) - no custom whistle on repeat and end? please at least remove the whistle on repeat ;__;
  4. 00:53:706 (7) - normal soundset \:D/
  5. 01:33:430 (9) - ↑ \:D/
  6. 01:59:913 (1,2,3,4) ~ well for the copy paste, scale, rotate, maybe ctrl+r the 2nd, 4th, etc reppeteance? maybe is moar funny
  7. 02:11:499 (1) - maybe remove the whistle from all slider and re-insert it on start/end and repeats once per time, the whistle on slider body still sounding and make it sounds a bit weird, also considerate just remove the whistle here, the song has a nice sound here, dunno how will sounds to you the next slider D;
  8. 03:08:188 (2) - set the tiny grid and locate this moar straigh with previous slider please o:
  9. 03:44:085 - hmm, maybe a bouncing slider here and start the spinner on 03:45:016, to follow that sound of the song with the spinner


[Collab]

dunno if you know that I dont like collabs ;_; well lets try
  1. 00:37:775 (2) - try to get a better "inhert" on previous slider, rotate this maybe some -16º also maybe you want to improve the shape of previous slider
  2. 00:39:637 (1,2,3,4) - ehm use the same spacing that used on 00:39:119 (2,3)? tell me the reason of using a higher spacing please o:
  3. 00:52:361 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - x_x spacingfaewopn
  4. 01:07:361 ~ 01:07:671 - what is the propose of this green timelines? they have the same volume, soundset, etc
  5. 01:07:775 (3) - you can use the custom soundset, the clap has this sound, I say the clap on the repeat
  6. 01:10:050 (7) - oh this is the correct usage of soundset change
  7. 01:26:809 (1) - finish on start dont fit at all, just use custom whistle please
  8. 01:33:430 (5) - normal soundset please
  9. 01:48:119 (2) - tako-san :D
  10. 02:03:223 - please keep the custom soundset D:! ah, dont know why it sounds so weird
  11. 02:11:499 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - should be 1/8 as on [Insane]
  12. 02:39:844 ~ le random whistleing :o
  13. 03:02:809 (1) - make a moar nice to eyes slider?
    SPOILER
    104,104,182809,6,0,B|80:160|136:288|256:320|376:288|432:160|408:104,1,510,2|2
  14. 03:06:119 ~ off-topic 1/4 sliders :o

    Leorda wrote:

    [Collab rules]
    1. No overmapped
    :o :o :o
  15. 03:45:844 ~ avoid using whistles? please? ;_; or use it moar constantly


that is all, thanks for requesting me Leorda >_<

oh, star for no tou*ou related map <:
Yasora
Rei Hakurei
sebelum fix -> gw heran kenapa yang keDL cuman diff: COLLAB doang

[ikari_kyon]
no mod directing to me, so i think my part is safe by i_k~ (meh reason starring lol)
[spboxer3]
02:25:671 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1) - uneven spacing. normally i use Small (8px) grid, and i used 1/2 normal spacing (which is 0.7x after halved).. thanks for pointing this 0.7~0.8x spacing ^^ i feel nothing wrong here
02:36:119 (6,2) - spacing. It's just like 02:36:533 (2,4) - 's spacing. but it's different now :< thanks, fixed (raised 0.02x)

thanks for pointing it out ^^

only fixed spacingATTACH[LiLA'c Records - Existence value and Firm faith (Leorda) [Another Rei's Part].osu]

oh iya ... lagi pengen ngemod iseng nih
00:32:188 (1) - http://puu.sh/xfKS
00:37:154 (1,2) - bengkoknya aneh, coba dibikin lengkungan keduanya itu ngeblanket (2) http://puu.sh/xfLT
00:40:671 (2,3) - bikin stack di ujung slider,
00:41:499 (4,5) - bikin stack,
00:42:326 (1,2,3,4) - bikin stack
00:46:050 (6,2) - kepala (6) stack sama (2) atw sebaliknya biar lebih rapi
00:49:775 (3,2) - snap (3) ke grid, terus bikin (3) stack sama end (2), sama bikin (2) lebih simetris :) http://puu.sh/xfNE
01:48:119 (2) - bikin simetris http://puu.sh/xfOR
02:18:740 (2) - bikin kaya gini? http://puu.sh/xfPD
02:44:809 (3,4) - bikin sejajar kaya (5,6) ?
03:15:016 (4) - http://puu.sh/xfQM
  • karena bentuk slidernya mirip, kan bisa di rotate atw flip dsb. mungkin beberapa slider yang mirip bisa difix seperti itu
  1. 03:14:395 (3) -
  2. 03:13:361 (2) -
  3. 03:12:740 (1) -
  4. 03:07:775 (1) -
  5. 03:21:017 (1) -
  6. 03:25:982 (1,2) -
  7. 03:27:637 (3,4) -
  • pilih diantara ini
  1. 03:52:257 (9) - sejajarin sama 03:51:844 (7) -
  2. 03:52:464 (10) - nazi, 4 grid kiri
03:53:499 (4) - http://puu.sh/xfSe , gw liat 03:54:119 (6) - flip dari (4) ya ?, itu juga dibikin kaya gitu pointnya :)
03:53:395 (3,4,8) - gw harap posisinya sama semua ini... (gw liat (3) sama (8) beda sekitar 8px, jadi kerasa aneh)

^^

Download: LiLA'c Records - Existence value and Firm faith (Leorda) [Another Rei's Part].osu
Frizz

ikari_kyon wrote:

  1. 02:39:844 ~ le random whistleing :o They weren't there when I first mapped my own part :<
  2. 03:02:809 (1) - make a moar nice to eyes slider? done
    SPOILER
    104,104,182809,6,0,B|80:160|136:288|256:320|376:288|432:160|408:104,1,510,2|2
>w<

Download: LiLA'c Records - Existence value and Firm faith (Leorda) [Frizz's Part].osu
shikyu

ikari_kyon wrote:

[Collab]

dunno if you know that I dont like collabs ;_; well lets try
  1. 00:37:775 (2) - try to get a better "inhert" on previous slider, rotate this maybe some -16º also maybe you want to improve the shape of previous slider fixed
  2. 00:39:637 (1,2,3,4) - ehm use the same spacing that used on 00:39:119 (2,3)? tell me the reason of using a higher spacing please o: already fixed this issue :(
  3. 00:52:361 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - x_x spacingfaewopn ^
Download: LiLA'c Records - Existence value and Firm faith (Leorda) [shikyu's Part].osu
Aoitenshi
[Collab]03:06:119 ~ off-topic 1/4 sliders :o

Leorda wrote:

[Collab rules]
  1. No overmapped
I'm not really sure about it... Maybe one more opinion and I'll change it. (Notice Frizz & Rei_Fan's Stream)
Niva
Topic Starter
Leorda
Update~

thx ikari_kyon.... Must find MAT
Jzh Zehnichi
really sorry for the late update

http://puu.sh/z54a

and yeah, i think this one is ready for MAT
Roddie
Hey there.

We would have gone through a full in-game mod but we only got one part of it done. Oh well. might as well post in the chatlog and my mod post.

General
  1. Might as well add in the epilepsy warning. Since the Storyboard is giving out a bit of flash.
Normal

Here is the chatlog.

Chatlog
I wanted to do irc modding
15:58 <Roddie> : ready to go through with it?
15:58 <Leorda> : wel, depends, if your mod is long, I can't if short, I can
15:58 <Roddie> : There are things I would like to discuss you with really
15:59 <Roddie> : something a bit important
15:59 <Leorda> : what is it?
15:59 <Roddie> : haha...
15:59 <Roddie> : its about your normal
16:00 <Leorda> : huh?
16:00 <Roddie> : well, your normal diff is fine but I'm concern about the difficulty star rating
16:00 <Roddie> : I know its not right all the time
16:01 <Roddie> : but think you can try to lower it?
16:01 <Leorda> : lower what?
16:02 <Roddie> : the difficulty star rating
16:02 <Roddie> : find a way to lower it just a little bit
16:02 <Leorda> : how about 3.000 stars?
16:02 <Leorda> : *3.00
16:02 <Roddie> : sure
16:02 <Roddie> : that works
16:02 <Leorda> : ok
16:02 <Leorda> : done
16:03 <Roddie> : oh that's it?
16:03 <Roddie> : okay
16:03 <Leorda> : I did OD -1
16:03 <Roddie> : alright
16:03 <Roddie> : also
16:03 <Roddie> : 01:15:223-
16:04 <Roddie> : a new combo here isn't fitting here really
16:04 <Leorda> : but it follow the stanza D:
16:04 <Roddie> : 01:28:464-
16:04 <Roddie> : what about this one?
16:05 <Leorda> : oh no
16:05 <Leorda> : I remove at 01:15:223 (2) -
16:05 <Roddie> : very well[code][/code]

Yasora's Hard
  1. 01:20:188 (1)-A finish on the beginning would be fitting.
Insane
  1. 02:23:085 (1, 2)-The 1st slider's hitburst and slider body is covering the 2nd slider and the reserve arrow. I advise you to fix this issue. Credit goes to Miya for pointing this out.

Collab.
  1. 03:49:154 (Jzh Zehnichi)-A new combo here is not really needed.
  2. 03:59:085 (Jzh Zehnichi) (1)-Did you forgot to add a finish here? I find a finish here very fitting.
  3. 03:56:395 (Jzh Zehnichi) (4, 5)-The 4th slider's hitburst is covering the reverse arrow of the 5th slider. I advise you to fix this issue as well. Credit goes to Miya again for pointing this out.
Me and Miya agreed that this map needs to be looked at by other modders.

I'll star this for now.
Yasora
Topic Starter
Leorda
All fixed, thx Roddie. And I promise, I will ask more modder to mod this.... orz

@Jzh Zehnichi : aku udah fix part kamu....
Saten
[General]
I'd prefer if you used silenced slider-slides

[Collab]
01:30:119 (1) - try to stack this better with 01:29:085 (4) ?
02:12:637 (12) - why start this on a blue tick? I suggest you start it at 02:12:740 instead
02:19:361 (4) - Ctrl+R?
02:26:188 - feels empty here
02:36:533 (2,4,6) - 1 grid up
02:37:982 (8) - NC
02:43:361 (4) - NC here as well, otherwise it look like a tricky part
03:02:809 (1) - whistle on both sides
03:57:430 (6) - NC

[Insane]
01:07:775 (5) - NC
01:46:671 - use 60% volume here
02:23:085 (1) - add another repeat here (and Ctrl+R)? fits better imo
03:06:947 (4) - NC

[Hard]
AR+1 (AR 7 feels more comfortable imo)
01:26:395 (6,1) - NC on (6) instead

[Normal]
AR+1 (I don't think it would hurt)
01:15:223 (2) - is this here on purpose?
01:46:671 - 60% volume here
02:09:844 (1,1) - aren't these two kinda too close to each-other?
02:50:809 (4) - spacing error kinda


The Collab had most issues, the rest were fine imo~

Good luck =w=/
Yasora
Collab:
fixed from 02:12:533 - 02:26:188

fixed for hard diff

thanks~
Poggo
hi from my mod Q ^.^

Collab

00:43:154(3,4) - stack better
00:52:878 - remove clap
01:30:947 - i think better make so http://puu.sh/Ar15 really sound on music
01:53:292(2,3,4,5) - with whistle it sound better
02:03:430(1,3) - make this sliders more symmetric
03:02:809 - ^
03:06:119 - put here volume 50% >.< 100% it's SO A LOT OF\

Insane

00:31:361(3,1) - stack better
00:32:809 - end this slider on white tick and add note on red
01:49:982 - make this slider symmetric http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/340316
01:53:706 - maybe you make here break time?
02:01:568 - add finish
02:03:223 - ^
02:04:878 - ^
02:06:533 - ^
02:08:188 - ^

Hard

00:39:223 - add note
00:52:464 - ^
01:26:602 - i think better end slider on red tick and add note on white
01:57:223 - make here volume 5%

Soft sound very good *O*

Normal

AR -1

00:42:740 - remove this note
01:13:568(1,2) - as it to play to beginners????? http://puu.sh/Arhw correct it
01:16:464 - ^
02:06:119(7,1) - unstack this (correct spacing)
02:55:361(3,4,1) - correct spacing

I think this Normal very difficult for beginners ;w; better make it eaiser or make easy diff :shock:

It's all for me. Nice song and map, good luck~~
Rei Hakurei
Before checking mods,
02:23:085 is start of my part, why my part is totally changed till 02:26:395 (1) ?
I don't remember such that pattern..
02:23:292 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) ? i don't recall it. I have my backup.

[Saten's Mod]
02:26:188 - feels empty here this point i recall correctly is stream
02:36:533 (2,4,6) - 1 grid up ok
02:37:982 (8) - NC in this backup, i have NC'd ones

also, leo-chan haven't updated my part from previous mod :(

here

LiLA'c Records - Existence value and Firm faith (Leorda) [Another Rei's Part].osu

(click the filename to open, press CTRL+S to save the file!)
Jzh Zehnichi
thanks leo for fixing my part and sorry since i having hard time to get online lately :(
Topic Starter
Leorda
thx Saten and Katty for mod

@all collabers : aku udah fix buat kalian
Jinxy
[SB]
Just being grammar nazi, but on 00:20:602, it should be "Proudly made by Indonesian MAPPERS". You can ignore this if changing the image would cause problems in the SB though, since it's rather minor.

[Normal]
00:34:257 (1,2,3) - Hm, wouldn't this look better if 2 was on the vertical axis? Symmetry and all.
03:25:982 (1,2,3) - I would suggest the same thing here but the distance snapping makes it impossible, so you could keep it or move the previous beats around so 3 is on the vertical axis.

[Yasora's Hard]
01:49:982 (1,1) - Cool sliders, but they aren't perfectly round, if you compare the slider border with the approach circle:
03:32:602 (1,1,1,1) - This... isn't really interesting. 1 beat then break then 1 beat... I would suggest mapping them out a little more like 03:45:844 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) and so on.

[Insane]
k I guess.

[Collab]
03:02:809 (1) - This slider could look a lot more better by being symmetrical. Use more slider points and Ctrl-H often to check if it's symmetrical.
I do not like Ain's spacing in parts like 03:07:775 (1,2,3,4,5), but it's an Insane map so I not really care much. It's still a jerk move though.
Yasora
thanks for mod

update my diff, leo
Shulin
[General]
  1. prouds.png should say "Proudly made by Indonesian MAPPERS. It's not a big deal if it's a hassle to change though.
  2. 01:46:671 to 01:59:706 - I'm not sure why you guys mapped this part, apart from the small vocal part there's barely any music here. I think it would've been better with a break.

[Normal]

01:17:913 (4) - Delete to follow vocal?
01:46:671 (1) - Silence ticks?
01:49:982 (1) - ^
02:11:550 (1) - Move to 1/4 ~ 02:11:602

A bit hard for a normal but it's nice.

[Yasora's Hard]

01:22:464 (5) - Move this up 2-3 squares (grid 4), it looks neater.
01:29:706 (3,1,2,3,4,5,1) - Move right 3-4 squares, makes 01:29:706 (3,1) - look neater next to 01:29:085 (2) - in game.
01:46:671 to 01:54:947 - Ticks are sounding bad on these sliders. I think it's better if they're silenced.
01:46:671 (1) - Shouldn't this end at 01:47:292 to follow the vocal?
01:49:982 (1) - You could probably silence the end, it sounds better.
01:53:292 (1) - ^
01:55:361 (1) - ^

Nice hard.

[Insane]

00:39:844 (3) - Align with 00:39:637 (2) - left a bit.
01:31:775 (1) - Move right so it doesn't overlap with 01:31:361 (4) - in game.
01:31:775 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Honestly, I think 1/8 returning slider to 1/4 stream is awkward something like 02:11:499 (1,2) - is less awkward to play imo.
01:49:982 (1) - Ticks sound bad. Silence them?
01:55:568 (1) - Silence the end.
02:03:223 (1) - This finish seems too loud, 50-70% volume is good imo.
02:06:533 (1) - ^ you could incease the volume a bit maybe as the song gets louder? =D
02:24:740 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Again I think this plays awkwardly. Also you seem to be missing a return on 02:24:740 (2) - because the song still has 1/8 beat here.
02:28:050 (1) - Align with 02:27:637 (5) - move left.
03:30:844 - Note? Stream sound is still here.
03:30:947 - ^ Start the spinner at 03:31:050 - if you do this.
03:32:602 - I think it'd be awesome if you added a note here.

Apart from the 1/8 returning slider to stream I really like this, very smooth.

[Collab]

Niva

01:47:292 (1,2) - Ticks sound bad. Silence? Also I think you should silence the return on 01:48:119 (2) - because that too sounds bad (yes I know you placed whistle lol).
01:53:292 (2,3,4,5) - Got 100s right here. It doesn't follow anything, it's sight readable but you shouldn't have to. Also the whistles sound bad; tbh I can't think of anything else that would work well except a spinner which is why I'd have left this as break time.

Yasora

02:12:223 (8,9,10,11,12) - Why no custom whistle here? Why not add whistle to 02:11:706 (3) - and 02:12:326 (9) - and 02:12:533 (11) - to keep the pattern consistent. Or maybe just remove all the whistle?
02:13:982 to 02:24:533 - I would've liked to have seen more 1/4 here to follow the rhythm of this part because 1/2 just sounds plain for an Insane. I think you can make this more exciting by following the rhythm of the song more closely.
02:24:740 (6,7,8,9) - Hmm 1/8 returning slider to 1/4 stream, this is awkward imo.
02:35:396 (3,4,5,6) - Add whistle.
02:36:740 (3) - ^
02:37:361 (6) - ^
02:37:568 (7) - ^ to the end.
02:37:982 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I think all this should be custom whistle because the drum beat is heavy.

Frizz925

02:47:292 (4,5,6) - Move this further away from 02:46:464 (1,2,3) - the way it's spaced is deceptive, it looks like you'll repeat the stream rhythm of 02:42:533 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
03:02:602 - Note? Feels empty.
03:02:809 (1) - Hmm why follow the vocal here when you ignore it for the whole of your part? But if you want to follow the extended vocal it should end at 03:04:464 - it sounds much better.

Ain053

  1. Increase the volume at 03:06:119 it's odd to have this section suddenly quiet when the previous one was double the volume. Also to stick with the majority of the map I'd suggest using less custom whistle on this section and follow a similar pattern to the others.
  2. The way you spaced 1/4 is at odd compared with the rest of the map. D:
03:20:189 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - Mega copy paste! It's only a short part, would it be hard to map something new?
03:29:292 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - A bit of a difficulty jump?

Jzh Zehnichi

03:46:154 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This rhythm is odd, I think you should follow the synth more closely. If not 1/2 would work, but synth would definitely be better.
03:49:154 (15) - Remove normal whistle.
03:52:775 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same thing I said about 03:46:154 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - follow the synth more closely.

Mmm overall I think the collab could be more cohesive and some parts could work on following the synth of the song better since it's the most prominent part. I'm also surprised there's no Leo in the collab! =P

I think the collab diff would benefit from a bit more modding.
Rei Hakurei
(yasora part so long O_O and i didn't mentioned, should i say LOL ?)
02:13:982 to 02:24:533 - I would've liked to have seen more 1/4 here to follow the rhythm of this part because 1/2 just sounds plain for an Insane. I think you can make this more exciting by following the rhythm of the song more closely. idk why i should follow the style during my phase.., well.. there's a mod that makes me lowers the beat intensity.... ;_; because the "style" should be similar or somekind like that... but when i see the older collabs... there's a mapper that out-of-range from average style....
02:24:740 (6,7,8,9) - Hmm 1/8 returning slider to 1/4 stream, this is awkward imo. Hold then Go, iirc the purpose...
02:35:396 (3,4,5,6) - Add whistle. 3,4,6 yes
02:36:740 (3) - ^ i did it on purpose
02:37:361 (6) - ^ ^
02:37:568 (7) - ^ to the end. ^
02:37:982 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I think all this should be custom whistle because the drum beat is heavy. ^

go there.
Yasora
my part just until 02:26:395 :v

also fixed from 02:11:499 - 02:12:740

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184,208,123016,1,0
236,140,123223,1,2
140,56,123430,6,0,B|80:44|32:104|48:172,1,170
128,136,124050,1,2
112,216,124257,2,0,B|172:228|220:168|204:100,1,170
260,48,124878,1,2
340,80,125085,6,0,B|340:112|308:128|308:164,1,85,0|2
392,136,125499,1,0
444,84,125706,2,0,B|444:116|476:132|476:168,2,85,2|0|2
392,136,126326,2,0,B|392:224,1,85,0|2
468,256,126740,6,0,B|432:336,1,85,0|2
316,256,127154,2,0,B|352:340,1,85,0|2
266,316,127568,2,0,B|226:336|182:316,1,85,0|2
132,260,127982,2,0,B|96:344,1,85,0|2
52,240,128395,6,0,B|32:200|52:148,1,85,0|2
132,180,128809,2,0,B|148:132|128:92,1,85,0|2
204,56,129223,2,0,B|240:40|296:56,1,85,0|2
332,128,129637,1,0
368,204,129844,1,4
312,320,130050,5,0
256,192,130257,1,2
196,320,130464,1,0
188,236,130671,1,4
320,236,130878,1,0
196,320,131085,1,2
312,320,131292,1,0
120,280,131499,5,4
80,268,131602,1,0
56,232,131706,1,0
48,192,131809,1,0
56,148,131913,1,2
84,116,132016,1,0
120,100,132119,1,0
156,96,132223,1,0
196,108,132326,1,0
232,128,132430,1,0
272,136,132533,1,0
312,128,132637,1,0
352,112,132740,2,0,B|400:84,3,42.5,2|0|2|0
408,120,133154,6,0,B|452:108,4,42.5,4|0|0|0|2
88,328,133982,1,0
156,280,134188,1,0
224,328,134395,2,0,B|260:344|308:328,2,85,2|0|0
264,252,135016,5,0
224,176,135223,1,2
140,192,135430,2,0,B|100:216|48:188,2,85,0|0|0
100,116,136050,1,2
148,44,136257,2,0,B|236:44,1,85
316,60,136671,6,0,B|368:140,1,85,0|2
448,132,137085,2,0,B|488:56,2,85
408,208,137706,1,2
408,292,137913,1,0
324,308,138119,6,0,B|280:340|212:340|160:308,1,170,0|2
204,232,138740,2,0,B|244:252|287:235,1,85
248,157,139154,1,0
288,84,139361,2,0,B|244:64|196:88,2,85,2|0|0
344,148,139982,6,0,B|384:160|432:148,1,85,0|2
452,232,140395,2,0,B|468:304,1,42.5
376,268,140706,2,0,B|368:320,1,42.5
288,284,141016,2,0,B|248:324,2,42.5,2|0|0
216,236,141430,6,0,B|160:216|96:260|96:260|48:216,1,170,0|2
100,156,142050,1,0
60,80,142257,2,0,B|92:50|92:50|156:94|212:74,1,170,0|2
292,108,142878,2,0,B|332:144|316:200,1,85,0|0
208,192,143292,6,0,B|168:216|128:192,1,85,0|2
128,72,143706,2,0,B|104:112,1,42.5
216,72,144016,2,0,B|240:112,1,42.5,0|2
320,192,144326,1,0
320,192,144533,1,2
400,104,144740,2,0,B|400:80,16,21.25,0|0|0|0|2|0|0|0|2|0|0|0|0|0|2|0|0
424,120,145671,1,2
424,152,145775,1,2
448,176,145878,1,2
448,208,145982,1,0
472,232,146085,1,2
472,264,146188,1,2
448,288,146292,1,0
416,288,146395,5,6
344,192,146602,1,2
272,288,146809,1,2
200,192,147016,1,2
168,192,147119,2,0,B|144:192|112:160|112:136,1,85,0|2
112,104,147430,1,0
200,24,147637,2,2,B|248:24|272:64,1,85
392,64,148050,2,0,B|368:104|328:120,2,85,0|2|2
416,184,148671,1,0
384,184,148775,1,2
320,288,148982,1,2
320,256,149085,1,0
432,304,149292,1,0
432,304,149499,1,2
320,352,149706,5,0
176,312,149913,1,2
144,176,150119,1,2
224,88,150326,6,0,B|272:88,1,42.5,0|2
384,88,150637,2,0,B|336:88,1,42.5,2|0
392,192,150947,1,2
392,224,151050,1,0
376,248,151154,1,2
256,248,151361,2,0,B|264:296|224:320,1,85,0|2
128,248,151775,1,2
80,136,151982,1,0
88,104,152085,1,2
104,80,152188,1,0
128,64,152292,1,2
160,56,152395,1,0
280,56,152602,2,0,B|368:56,1,85,2|2
456,136,153016,5,4
328,248,153223,1,0
200,136,153430,2,0,B|184:72|120:40,2,127.5,4|2|0
64,192,154257,1,2
32,336,154464,1,2
256,80,154878,5,2
256,80,155085,1,2
80,264,155396,1,0
80,264,155603,1,0
336,272,155913,1,0
336,272,156119,1,2
168,232,156326,5,2
336,192,156533,1,2
168,160,156740,1,0
336,120,156947,1,2
168,88,157154,1,2
336,48,157361,1,0
168,16,157568,2,0,B|120:16|96:56,1,85,2|0
96,224,157982,5,2
96,256,158085,1,2
120,280,158188,1,0
120,320,158292,1,0
152,344,158395,1,2
192,344,158499,1,2
216,320,158602,1,0
256,320,158706,1,0
280,296,158809,2,0,B|368:272|384:168,2,170,0|0|2
328,152,159844,5,0
336,136,159947,1,0
344,120,160051,2,0,B|328:80|256:40,1,85,0|2
197,58,160464,1,8
128,104,160672,5,0
112,120,160775,1,0
104,136,160879,2,0,B|120:176|192:216,1,85,0|2
232,240,161292,1,8
320,240,161499,5,0
440,192,161706,1,2
320,144,161913,1,0
440,96,162119,1,8
320,48,162326,1,0
192,48,162533,5,2
176,64,162637,1,0
160,80,162740,2,0,B|80:176,3,85,0|0|0|2
96,168,163464,1,0
88,192,163568,1,0
88,216,163672,1,0
88,240,163775,2,0,B|104:296|160:328,1,85,8|0
216,312,164188,5,2
304,312,164395,2,0,B|352:272|376:216,1,85,2|8
336,168,164809,2,0,B|240:136,1,85,0|2
368,96,165223,2,0,B|256:64,1,85,0|8
200,64,165637,2,0,B|96:96,1,85,2|2
200,160,166050,2,0,B|96:192,1,85,0|8
80,264,166464,5,0
80,288,166568,1,0
80,312,166671,2,0,B|112:360|184:360,2,85,2|0|8
96,224,167292,1,0
117,213,167396,1,0
139,203,167499,2,0,B|196:211|226:276,2,85,2|0|8
80,144,168119,5,0
200,104,168326,1,2
80,56,168533,1,0
200,16,168740,1,8
328,16,168947,5,0
344,32,169050,1,0
360,48,169154,2,0,B|400:88|424:152,1,85,2|0
416,200,169568,1,8
408,288,169775,1,0
392,304,169878,1,0
376,320,169982,2,0,B|336:360|272:384,1,85,2|0
224,376,170396,1,8
144,352,170602,2,0,B|80:312,4,42.5,0|0|2|0|0
208,296,171223,5,0
224,280,171327,1,0
240,264,171430,1,0
256,248,171534,1,0
264,224,171637,1,2
272,200,171741,1,0
272,176,171844,1,0
272,152,171947,1,0
272,128,172050,1,0
272,104,172154,1,0
272,80,172257,1,0
184,80,172464,2,0,B|184:-8,1,85,2|0
184,80,172878,6,0,B|104:112|48:208,1,170,4|8
128,344,173706,2,0,B|232:352|312:296,1,170,2|8
328,144,174533,2,0,B|248:80,2,85,2|0|8
480,216,175361,1,2
360,264,175568,1,2
480,312,175775,1,8
360,352,175982,1,2
336,352,176085,1,2
312,352,176188,2,0,B|224:352|160:272,1,170,0|8
160,192,176809,1,2
160,168,176912,1,0
160,144,177015,2,0,B|160:56|280:32,1,170,2|8
344,80,177637,6,0,B|432:104,1,85,0|2
280,136,178051,2,0,B|192:160,1,85,0|8
352,176,178464,2,0,B|440:200,1,85,2|2
288,232,178878,2,0,B|200:256,1,85,0|8
120,256,179292,1,0
80,184,179499,5,2
80,161,179602,1,0
80,138,179706,2,0,B|102:81|142:41,1,85,0|8
192,112,180119,1,2
192,135,180222,1,0
192,158,180326,2,0,B|169:214|129:254,1,85,0|0
104,304,180740,1,8
176,344,180947,6,0,B|224:328|248:272,1,85,0|2
216,136,181361,2,0,B|168:152|144:208,1,85,0|8
296,248,181775,2,0,B|344:232|368:176,1,85,2|2
336,40,182189,2,0,B|288:56|264:112,1,85,0|8
64,158,182809,6,0,B|68:328|448:332|447:159,1,510,2|2
256,192,184464,12,0,185706
48,96,186119,6,0,B|96:96,1,42.5,6|2
144,64,186326,2,0,B|200:64,1,42.5,2|2
240,24,186533,2,0,B|270:61|240:104,1,85,8|2
48,288,186947,6,0,B|96:288,1,42.5,2|2
144,320,187154,2,0,B|200:320,1,42.5,2|2
240,360,187361,2,0,B|270:323|240:280,1,85,8|2
363,261,187775,6,2,B|422:228|424:160|362:121,1,170,2|8
336,192,188395,1,2
272,160,188602,2,2,B|224:160,1,42.5
272,224,188809,2,2,B|224:224,1,42.5
88,192,189016,2,0,B|184:192,1,85,10|0
240,80,189430,6,2,B|296:80,1,42.5
378,112,189637,2,2,B|336:112,1,42.5
432,72,189844,2,0,B|462:109|432:152,1,85,8|2
240,304,190257,6,2,B|296:304,1,42.5
378,272,190464,2,2,B|336:272,1,42.5
432,312,190671,2,0,B|462:275|432:232,1,85,8|2
360,192,191085,6,0,B|184:192,1,170,2|8
144,128,191706,1,2
80,160,191913,2,2,B|32:160,1,42.5
80,224,192119,2,2,B|24:224,1,42.5
144,256,192326,1,8
144,128,192533,1,0
187,64,192740,6,2,B|223:5|291:7|324:66,1,170,2|8
325,320,193361,2,2,B|288:378|220:376|187:317,1,170,2|2
212,192,193982,6,2,B|268:192,1,42.5,10|2
316,192,194188,2,2,B|364:192,1,42.5,2|2
384,123,194395,2,2,B|443:159|441:227|382:259,1,170,2|8
127,260,195016,2,2,B|70:224|72:156|129:123,1,170,2|2
256,48,195637,1,10
256,48,195740,1,2
256,48,195844,1,2
256,48,195947,1,2
256,48,196050,5,2
160,304,196464,1,8
400,152,196878,1,2
112,152,197292,1,8
352,304,197706,1,2
256,48,198119,1,8
432,296,198533,6,2,B|432:344,1,42.5
368,240,198740,2,2,B|368:288,1,42.5
432,184,198947,2,2,B|432:232,1,42.5,8|2
368,128,199154,2,2,B|368:176,1,42.5
464,96,199361,6,0,B|416:96,1,42.5,6|2
368,64,199568,2,0,B|312:64,1,42.5,2|2
272,24,199775,2,0,B|242:61|272:104,1,85,8|2
464,288,200189,6,0,B|416:288,1,42.5,2|2
368,320,200396,2,0,B|312:320,1,42.5,2|2
272,360,200603,2,0,B|242:323|272:280,1,85,8|2
149,261,201017,6,2,B|90:228|88:160|150:121,1,170,2|8
176,192,201637,1,2
240,160,201844,2,2,B|288:160,1,42.5
240,224,202051,2,2,B|288:224,1,42.5
424,192,202258,2,0,B|328:192,1,85,10|0
272,80,202672,6,2,B|216:80,1,42.5
134,112,202879,2,2,B|176:112,1,42.5
80,72,203086,2,0,B|50:109|80:152,1,85,8|2
272,304,203499,6,2,B|216:304,1,42.5
134,272,203706,2,2,B|176:272,1,42.5
80,312,203913,2,0,B|50:275|80:232,1,85,8|2
152,192,204326,6,0,B|328:192,1,170,2|8
368,128,204948,1,2
432,160,205155,2,2,B|480:160,1,42.5
432,224,205361,2,2,B|488:224,1,42.5
368,256,205568,1,8
368,128,205775,1,2
325,64,205982,6,2,B|289:5|221:7|188:66,1,170,2|8
187,320,206603,2,2,B|224:378|292:376|325:317,1,170,2|2
300,192,207224,6,2,B|244:192,1,42.5,10|2
196,192,207430,2,2,B|148:192,1,42.5,2|2
127,123,207637,2,2,B|69:159|71:227|129:259,1,170,2|8
384,260,208258,2,2,B|442:224|440:156|382:123,1,170,2|2
256,48,208879,1,10
176,176,209292,6,2,B|232:176,1,42.5
336,176,209499,2,2,B|264:176,1,42.5
176,240,209706,2,2,B|232:240,1,42.5,10|2
336,240,209913,2,2,B|264:240,1,42.5
176,304,210119,2,2,B|232:304,1,42.5
336,304,210326,2,2,B|264:304,1,42.5
176,368,210533,2,2,B|232:368,1,42.5,10|2
336,368,210740,2,2,B|264:368,1,42.5
256,192,210947,12,6,212602
256,192,225844,5,4
184,88,226154,1,0
184,88,226257,2,0,B|155:91|155:91|163:125|163:125|128:134,1,85,0|2
328,88,226775,1,0
328,88,226878,2,0,B|356:91|356:91|348:125|348:125|383:134,1,85,0|2
184,296,227395,1,0
184,296,227499,2,0,B|155:292|155:292|163:258|163:258|128:249,1,85,0|2
328,296,228016,1,0
328,296,228119,1,0
400,248,228326,1,2
416,208,228430,1,0
400,168,228533,1,0
256,152,228740,1,8
344,40,228947,1,8
200,56,229154,1,2
128,344,229568,6,0,B|213:344,1,85,0|2
296,192,230188,2,0,B|192:192,1,85,0|2
312,56,230809,2,0,B|397:56,1,85,0|2
400,224,231430,1,0
320,264,231637,1,0
288,296,231740,1,0
248,304,231844,1,0
112,248,232050,1,8
232,168,232257,1,8
112,88,232464,1,2
324,88,232775,5,0
324,88,232878,2,0,B|350:127|318:167,1,85,0|2
128,152,233395,1,0
128,152,233499,2,0,B|96:192|128:240,1,85,0|2
324,240,234016,1,0
324,240,234119,2,0,B|356:280|324:328,1,85,0|2
124,232,234740,1,0
124,152,234947,1,4
288,192,235361,1,4
448,84,235775,5,2
348,188,235982,1,0
300,52,236188,1,8
204,160,236395,2,0,B|156:160,5,42.5
120,176,237016,2,0,B|88:176,7,21.25
164,192,237430,6,0,B|164:244,1,42.5,2|0
204,256,237637,2,0,B|252:256,1,42.5
292,304,237844,2,0,B|249:304,1,42.5,2|0
292,256,238050,2,0,B|340:256,1,42.5
380,212,238257,2,0,B|337:212,1,42.5,2|0
380,164,238464,2,0,B|428:164,1,42.5,2|2
380,116,238671,2,0,B|337:116,1,42.5,2|0
292,72,238878,2,2,B|340:72,1,42.5,0|0
334,72,239085,5,4
Rei Hakurei
i'm so confused.

give us the truth.
Topic Starter
Leorda
I PM Ain053, but he had no response in this day.... Maybe because of exam....

Shulin wrote:

  1. Increase the volume at 03:06:119 it's odd to have this section suddenly quiet when the previous one was double the volume. Also to stick with the majority of the map I'd suggest using less custom whistle on this section and follow a similar pattern to the others. I remove some whistle, I hope you like my hitsound what I did
  2. The way you spaced 1/4 is at odd compared with the rest of the map. D: Um, just sayin' If you see the 1/4 slider, just imagine that 1/4 slider is a circle. Just sayin' correct me if I am wrong ><
thx Shulin :D I fix those collab diff, since all Indo mappers are lazy D:
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