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Ailsean - Joe Cam Stole My Bike

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Topic Starter
K-S-O
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Tuesday, April 13, 2010 at 10:27:43 AM

Artist: Ailsean
Title: Joe Cam Stole My Bike
Source: EarthBound
Tags: Mother 2 Nintendo Remix
BPM: 140
Filesize: 3288kb
Play Time: 01:37
Difficulties Available:
  1. Fourside (5 stars, 407 notes)
  2. Onett (2.18 stars, 120 notes)
  3. Threed (4.76 stars, 263 notes)
  4. Twoson (4 stars, 157 notes)
Download: Ailsean - Joe Cam Stole My Bike
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This is the third map that was going to be in the Earthbound set but is now in its own thread.

This is a fan-made remix of the bike-riding theme from Earthbound that was released in the fan project, Bound Together.
James
i say insane is too hard~ used distance snap too religiously i say~
raise your left foot if anyone agrees~

havent checked out the bpm, too sleepy~

threed:
00:04:48 (11,12) - 1 grid lower

twoson:
00:06:84 (1,2,3,4,5) - flip horizontally? so that 1 will start at the upper right?
01:10:49 (6) - 1/4 beat forward? or just make 567 a slider
01:13:92 (5) - same
01:32:57 (1,2,3,4,5) - flip it so that 1 would start at the topleft

starred (old-school modding system)
Topic Starter
K-S-O
Made the changes you suggested, James.
Mogsy
I'd say that Fourside is too hard.

The BPM is just fine to me.

Twoson:
-01:10:92 (7) - Nudge right 1/4 a beat, respace.
-01:14:35 (6) - ^
-01:18:21 (4) - ^
-01:19:07 (2) - ^

Threed:
-00:13:59 (1) - Nudge left 1/4 a beat, respace.

Still a Star in Mogsy's book.
Topic Starter
K-S-O
Is Fourside at least beatable? I'll have to take that into consideration before I make any changes.
Mogsy
I can't beat a lot of things on osu, so don't trust me. Have someone like Cyc or Rolled test it.

Twoson:
-00:46:27 (1) - Remove the New Combo mark.
-00:47:34 (2) - New Combo mark goes here.
-00:47:99 (1) - Remove the New Combo mark.
-00:49:06 (2) - New Combo mark goes here.
-00:49:70 (1) - Remove the New Combo mark.
-00:50:77 (2) - New Combo mark goes here.
-01:00:85 (2,3,4,5) - Highlight and move 2 so it matches up with 1's endpoint.
-01:34:93 (4,5) - Line up with 3's endpoint.

There are some timing things in Twoson in which I'm not sure they're supposed to be simplified or not, but if another mod doesn't bring it up, I will.
foulcoon

K-S-O wrote:

Is Fourside at least beatable? I'll have to take that into consideration before I make any changes.
After many many retries, i still haven't been able to beat it ;S.. I'll keep you updated?
Topic Starter
K-S-O
You know what? I have decided that the wide spacing and high drain rate in Fourside mode may be a bit much for a song this fast-paced. So I lowered those aspects of the beatmap so they should be a bit more managable. Still can't beat it myself though.
Mogsy
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Hitoshirenu Shourai

Mogsworth wrote:

I could actually pass Fourside, but maybe I'm just lucky. If anyone good feels like it's too hard, pop this bubble.
If we didn't rank maps because they were too hard, we wouldn't have DJPop's Marisa or Overdrive. Only like 20% of Osu! can really even pass those. XD
Hitoshirenu Shourai
MOD POST INCOMING

Onett
All good.

Twoson
01:10:926 (7) - Using 1/4 snap, move it 1/4 to the right.
01:14:355 (6) - As above
Adjust the spacing to the beats above accordingly.

Threed
All clear.

Fourside
Delicious.

So yeah, fix those 2 beats in Twoson, and you get ranks.
foulcoon
WOAH WOAH WOAH NO RANKING NO

Fourside was better imo before the changes, but i guess its truly your decision. The only part i didn't like about the original was difficulty settings i suppose.

Thats besides the point, this offset is not right... like not at all.. it seems SUPER early to me.

Offset: 1,720 sounds good to me, and doesn't make all hits like 25 ms late
Topic Starter
K-S-O
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Yuukari-Banteki
starred cus it needs priority and has already been starred~
Topic Starter
K-S-O

K-S-O wrote:

Hitoshirenu Shourai wrote:

MOD POST INCOMING
Twoson
01:10:926 (7) - Using 1/4 snap, move it 1/4 to the right.
01:14:355 (6) - As above
I'm not so sure about these. I don't see the problem with the beats the way they are now.
Wait a minute! I understand what that means now! Okay, I fixed that so here you go!

Topic Starter
K-S-O
I decided that I like the wide spacing of the original Fourside so I reverted the map back to that. I also made the spacing even wider during the slower sections of the song to increase difficulty.
Starrodkirby86
EarthBound <3

[Onett]:
00:05:14 (5) - Optional, new combo?
00:28:93 (4) - Move 1 right on Grid Level 2.
01:01:51 (4) - Move 1 down on Grid Level 2.

[Twoson]:
01:10:62 (6,7) - Snap to 1/3.
01:14:05 (5,6) - Snap to 1/3.
01:18:30 (4) - Snap to 1/3. (ahead)
01:19:16 (2) - Snap to 1/3. (ahead) I recommend you readjust spacing for all of them, if needed at least.

[Threed]:
01:08:59 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Snap to 1/3...
01:12:02 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Snap to 1/3.
01:15:87 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4) - Snap to 1/3. XD Basically the whole Excitebike segment.

[Fourside]:
00:49:94 (10,11,12,13) - Looks somewhat ugly with this stacking.
01:08:59 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Whole Excitebike part...Needs to snap to 1/3. It's better rhythmically.

Just wondering, did you use Distance Snap on this beatmap?

This is just charming to see. Star.
Topic Starter
K-S-O
Fixed everything.

Sorry I took a while. I was occupied with other things the past few weeks.
Starrodkirby86
I believe this map is pretty good quality now. I haven't taken a deep deep look at it again, but I'm sure the changes are pretty great.

Now your next assignment is to get 8 priority stars on this map so a BAT like me can take action (i.e. bubbling/ranking).

Good luck!

Protip: Go to #mod and ask for a mod request and link this map.
Arctic Cress
Onett, Twoson, and Threed all look good, but I can't pass Fourside =|
Still, great map, and starred.
Film11
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Starrodkirby86
[Twoson]:
01:11:02 (7) - Move this so the spacing can remain...consistent in the combo?
01:14:45 (6) - Same here.

[Threed]:
01:10:30 (7,8,9) - Move this a wee bit farther away, please? ^^

Near-bubbleable as is. Good work!
Topic Starter
K-S-O
May somebody bubble this map?
Lokamp
[General] maybe more claps on this song can make it better...

Onett
00:02:14 (2,3,4) - end the slider with a finish, clap the others
00:06:86 (1,2,3,4,5) - end the sliders with claps, finish the 5th, whistle the others
00:10:29 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^

Twoson
00:02:14 (3,4,7) - clap here (and on the slider's end)
00:05:57 (3) - clap here
00:34:29 (1,3,6,8) - claps here
01:08:59 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - check spacing...

Threed
00:26:15 (3) - ... an hidden beat... maybe some Bat can find it pretty weird... make it visible ^^
00:45:01 (3) - clap this slider's start and end
00:45:87 (1,3,5) - clap the slider's end and the beats
00:47:58 (2,4,6) - ^
00:49:30 (2,4,6,8) - ^
01:09:02 (3,6) - clap here
01:12:45 (3,6) - ^

Fourside
[General] Ok, I don't want to be a nazi modder, but it can be disorienting to play in a map with approaching circles VERY fast and tricky spacing together... plus, some sections have got semi-hidden hitcircles, too... try to fix one of this overall aspects!

Star 4 you ^^
Luneko
Hi ^^ you send me a mod request but the problem is...
there is nothing to mod :D

Have a Star~
Topic Starter
K-S-O

Lokamp wrote:

Fourside
[General] Ok, I don't want to be a nazi modder, but it can be disorienting to play in a map with approaching circles VERY fast and tricky spacing together... plus, some sections have got semi-hidden hitcircles, too... try to fix one of this overall aspects!
I thought this was acceptable in harder maps. Or have standards changed in the past month?
Topic Starter
K-S-O
Okay, so I tried adding some claps. Sounds pretty cool.
Andrea
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
DJPop
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Topic Starter
K-S-O
Okay, I fixed almost everything.
Nharox
[Fourside]

00:29:369 (3-7) - Confusing

Rest is okay, the only thing that bugs are the streams with stacked notes which doesn't play good.
For example 00:03:541 (12,13) or 01:25:953 (4,5)

[Threed]

01:00:019 (1-9) - I would move all of them a bit. 5x to the right on grid 3

[Twoson] is fine.

[Onett]

00:10:293 (1) - Too close to the previous note
00:13:722 (1) - ^
00:44:587 (1) - ^

There are some minor spacing problems beginners might find confusing. You should try the AIMod (Ctrl+Shift+A). :P
Diasios
Mod Info's:

Green: Suggestions.
Orange: I think you should fix this.
Red: You must fix this.

Starts Suggestions:

BPM = 140 (resnap all notes)

[Onett]

It's ok

[Twoson]

It's ok

[Threed]

00:46:030 (3) - Spacing


[Fourside]

It's ok

Starred~
Topic Starter
K-S-O
I don't think the timing change makes a difference. Whatever, I changed it anyway.

I have no idea how that spacing thing in Threed happened. Fixed that.
Starrodkirby86
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Takuma
Ouch! Please lower the volume a bit. -___-;

Fourside:
00:52:077 (4,5) - Inconsistent spacing.
01:10:291 (5,6) - Random huge gap? No.
01:13:720 (5,6) - ^ I'm not saying you should change these, but they're really weird imo.

Twoson:
01:14:362 (6) - 1/8th forward.

I don't really like this beatmap, honestly. Can't you do better than this box-mapping? Have my star anyway.
Topic Starter
K-S-O
The box-mapping is a style I decided to go for.
YGOkid8
General
Something's not right with the timing... at the beginning of the song, the BPM feels too fast, then when it reaches the end, it's just perfect. Might be just me, might not, I dunno... you might need more than 1 timing section if that's so...

Onett
00:54:902 (1, 2) - Dangerously close to HP bar. Reposition.

Rest are okay. ~ star ~
yeahyeahyeahhh
Fourside:

00:45:434 (4,5,6) - Spacing. The ends should at least touch imo.
00:48:862 (5,6,7) - ^
00:50:148 (4,5,6) - ^
00:51:005 (9,10,11) - ^

Threed:

Good :)

Onett:

Good :

:)

Twoson:

Good :)
Topic Starter
K-S-O
@YGOKid8: I don't hear any problems with the timing. I don't believe a new section is necessary.
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