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don't give up you are almost there :D
Sephibro
Y U NO RANK THIS MAP :x

Easy

ok


Xin's Normal

ok



Normal

01:35:828 (1,2,3,4) - i think 1-4 and 2-3 should have the same y to make the pattern symmetrical



Hard

00:19:084 (1,2,3,4,5) - maybe a little bit more spaced, but it's cool like this too. up to you
00:57:805 (5) - clap here



And btw, if there exists a single reason not to make this map ranked, please explain it.
Topic Starter
Genshin

Sephibro wrote:

Y U NO RANK THIS MAP :x

Easy

ok


Xin's Normal

ok



Normal

01:35:828 (1,2,3,4) - i think 1-4 and 2-3 should have the same y to make the pattern symmetrical



Hard

00:19:084 (1,2,3,4,5) - maybe a little bit more spaced, but it's cool like this too. up to you
00:57:805 (5) - clap here



And btw, if there exists a single reason not to make this map ranked, please explain it.
va bin
bomber34
can someone rank this anyhow?
This one hangs here for a year now ...
Kurokami

bomber34 wrote:

can someone rank this anyhow?
This one hangs here for a year now ...
Mine is hanging here more than 1,5 year, so this one is still young. :3

/me runs
dkun
Don't give up~ Contact me on irc when you have the chance. I just want to point out a few things~ (I don't think it needs a mod post :p)
Irreversible
hi there! Good fairy dkun summoned me to check this map quickly, so it's definetly ready ! *O*

[General]

It seems like you changed offset at any point, and didn't snap (also the kiai) the things properly, but you have to, because its unrankable.
http://puu.sh/3VmKP.png click on Resnap all notes to fix this problem


01:49:439 (1) - In Xin's diff there is a NC, i suggest to put a NC in everydiff to keep consistent. It also fits very well.

[Easy]

00:14:898 (1) - I think you have a hitsound problem here, add whistle on the start and clap on the end, to follow your pattern. (whistle is not necessary)
00:16:293 (2) - Same for this one! (the whislte is not necessary)
00:28:154 (4) - Whistle would empahsize this part very well, because the tone is higher than before. Without any hitsound, it's a bit empty
01:03:735 (3) - Add a whistle again? It's really very empty ><
01:13:503 (3) - New combo? Sounds like a new 'part' here.
01:32:340 (5) - Add a whistle here to follow your hitsounding pattern after this.
01:44:200 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/3Vn5R.jpg This would look a bit better, because it's supposed to be symmetric and like this you have a better effect for this sliderart.

nothing else to say except the hitsound issues, go over your diff again and check you didn't miss one, because i think whistle empahsizes the whole song very well.

[Xin's Normal]

00:07:224 (2) - Why did you not add any hitsound here? It's more important than 00:04:782 (2,3) - here for example and you left it out.
00:08:968 (1) - you forgot a whisltte here
00:16:294 (3) - This whistle doesn't follow your hitsound rhythm at all, 00:15:597 - you should add a whistle here (slider tick), 00:17:341 - and here.
00:28:504 (4) - same here, keep it consistent
00:48:040 - I think you should add a whistle here as well, consistency
00:59:553 (1) - whistle on the slider end
01:00:599 (2) - whistle
01:00:948 (3) - whistle on the end
01:01:995 (4) - whislte

01:10:716 (1,2,3,4) - Same hitsound pattern as above
01:32:345 (3) - I would add one here to emphasize the songa gain.

01:37:578 (4,1) - Could you try to improve this blanket? Just some polishment.
01:46:299 (4,1,2) - i think 4 is closer to 1 than 1 to 2, fix it please (super nazi ._.)
00:42:110 (3,4,1) - You've got a DS issue here, please fix that please
01:25:368 (4,5,6) - ^

I really don't like hitsound modding, but I think there are some whistles missing, Go over your diff again and fix them. Konei's hitsoundmodding is probably more useful than mine, so giving his suggestions a closer look would be a good idea :) Thank you konei~

[Normal]

00:58:157 (5) - This double reverse bothers me, can you replace with with smth different?
:arrow: The double reverses aren't a really good solution, if I were you i'd try to replace them, it'll make it more fun and less frustrating for normal-players


[Hard]

00:06:526 (1) - Try this rhythm out : http://puu.sh/3VnLq.jpg You use it afterwards as well, so it should be consistent. This is more readable as well
00:40:714 (3) - stack this properly with the end of 00:40:017 (2) - please
01:31:996 (6) - I suggest NC here, because of the background. These next three circles are like a new pattern. (triangle) and before you have a nice looking star then.
01:43:160 (6) - same reason as above

~ hope i can help you improving it a bit, good luck :D
Konei
Doing a quick hitsound check on the Normal because Irre asked me to do so.


[Xin's Normal]

  1. 00:06:526 (1) - A whistle on the start would fit perfectly to the pitch, consider to add it.
  2. 00:07:224 (2) - Consider to add a whistle at the start and end here aswell to follow the piano.
  3. 00:09:317 (2) - Here a whistle on the start would bring the song's piano out much better.
  4. 00:14:550 (5) - Try to whistle this aswell to follow the piano.
  5. 00:16:992 (4) - Whistle on the start? Same reason as above.
  6. 00:18:039 (1,3) - Whistling those 2 would fit the pitch of the piano perfectly.
  7. 00:19:085 (4) - I'd use a whistle on the end aswell, the piano is as strong on the end as on the start.
  8. 00:53:273 (4) - Try to use a whistle on the start? Sounds empty here, so it might be a good idea.
  9. 00:55:366 (3) - Use a whistle on the start, the reason is above.
  10. 00:56:413 (4) - Same.
  11. 01:05:483 (2,3,4) - I'd suggest a whistle on start of all of these, they all follow the piano much better.
  12. 01:09:321 (4) - Start is missing a whistle to have a consistent pattern.
  13. 01:12:111 (3) - Remove whistle on the repeat and add it on the start, it is inconsistent right now.
  14. For all copy pasted parts that left, the same suggestions should be applied to keep hitsounding consistent.

Just a quick look :P

Should be better after you applied that, good luck :3
Irreversible
Just figured out that Xin-Kin is XinCrin, so add XinCrin to the tags as well, please~

EDIT:
the kiai times are:

first kiai: 00:14:899 - until 00:28:853 -
second kiai: 01:05:134 - until 01:19:089 -

the green lines aren't snapped as well, orz xDD explained irc how it works

EDIT again: Add Alice to tags, since she's the main character in that world of kingdom hearts~ http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Wonderland
XinCrin
Thanks Konei ,all done . Also , I made some changes in NCs and blankets

SPOILER
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Title:Wonderland
TitleUnicode:Wonderland
Artist:Yoko Shimomura
ArtistUnicode:Yoko Shimomura
Creator:Genshin
Version:Xin's Normal
Source:Kingdom Hearts
Tags:square enix disney sora kairi riku XinCrin Chyo Alice
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Topic Starter
Genshin
thank you all :P
those
http://vgmdb.net/album/4257 says that the title of this song is actually "Welcome to Wonderland". Do you have a source to back up your title?
Also artist comes in Lastname, Firstname format, and should be "Shimomura Yoko", or 下村陽子.
Roxas


lol
those
Nice to know you have a found list of potentially otherwise formatted maps. Point of the post?
Roxas

those wrote:

Nice to know you have a found list of potentially otherwise formatted maps. Point of the post?
That maybe that should not be "Shimomura Yoko" but "Yoko Shimomura"?
pimp
good to see some activity here

the correct is surely Shimomura Yoko and i don't doubt that people already noticed that in the previous maps

they probably keep using Yoko Shimomura to keep consistency.
Roxas

pimpG wrote:

good to see some activity here

the correct is surely Shimomura Yoko and i don't doubt that people already noticed that in the previous maps

they probably keep using Yoko Shimomura to keep consistency.
So, my bad, sorry \o\
Kurokami
I'm using Yoko Shimomura ever since I played KH. I never think about to reverse it. So I think its fine as it is and still I don't think its matter how we write it.
Topic Starter
Genshin
fixed the title and artist name.
dkun
well, here we are. have a bubble! best of luck, my friend.

(ended up changing an inherited point at the end for volume)
kept the artist as-is due to the fact that it's popularized as Yoko Shimomura everywhere.
Topic Starter
Genshin
yayy
thx alot *-*
Irreversible
wahh :D so proud :3
bomber34
oh my gosh finally
now only one step is missing
see you next year
just kidding
Loooctav
Before rank...
Name: Yoko Shimomura - Wonderland

this xD!
i'm kh player :3
Zexion

ThoomyyxD wrote:

Before rank...
Name: Yoko Shimomura - Wonderland

this xD!
i'm kh player :3
Actually it is "Welcome to Wonderland", so the actual title is correct.

I hope to see this ranked :D
Kurokami

ThoomyyxD wrote:

i'm kh player :3
You are just a player, I'm a fan and I think the actual title is better since this is the original. Tho they are different in every game.
pimp
^ this, and i also showed Genshin the back cover of kh1 ost a few days before the bubble. the title is correct
Topic Starter
Genshin

here is the proof
Leader

Genshin wrote:


here is the proof
vgmdb says the same so yeah: http://vgmdb.net/album/373

go gen \:D/
Roxas
This is the correct title, I'M A KH FAN.

gl alex o/
Cherry Blossom
Go for ranking !!!
Momochikun

Cherry Blossom wrote:

Go for ranking !!!
GL ~
Andrea
I can't believe this is finally almost ready.
jericho2442
well hard has really odd odd spacing.........yet its fun......im ranking this.....why am i ranking this...arrgghh xD enjoy the rank
Suimya
Gratz :3
Konei
Ahh, it made it. Congratz! :>
Lolicakey
Congrats! >w<
Alarido
RAAANKEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU =^.^=

Congratz Congratz Genshin ^^

Thanks dkun & jericho2442

Sooooo AMAZING HARD =^.^= I LOVED PLAYING IT ♥ ♥ ♥ and Nicest song too :D

Att.
Lanturn
this song.... is so fun to play! great job! more maps to add to my 6 mod collection <3
xRayne
:D
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
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