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letmeplaytoo
LOOOOOL just play the slow streams with the song rythum..
thelewa

Salvage wrote:

ragelewa wrote:

Just pointing one thing out in here, most of the people who can stream low bpm well are people who had weak fingers and couldn't play faster streams when they begun playing.

I'm not part of that most then, i've been allways good at streams and sucked at jumps from the very beginning .. low bpm or semi high bpm (i can't do high high like the new almagest one)



and i also didn't have any training on it i guess, unless i played a lot Hards and semi insanes for a lot of time with hidden .. maybe i got good that way but it surelly wasn't on porpouse
well shit, this thread makes me feel bad about myself. I had to spend 8 months practicing 25h a day without any break days to get my stream accuracy.
kriers

ragelewa wrote:

well shit, this thread makes me feel bad about myself. I had to spend 8 months practicing 25h a day without any break days to get my stream accuracy.
Well at least you've got that accuracy!
lolcubes
Dont worry lewa, I've been at this for a year almost and I'm not nearly as good as you. Granted I didn't do it for 25 hours a day but I'm just saying that it takes time, just like you described.
:D
ampzz

MMzz wrote:

Sander-Don wrote:

Maybe you should try tap and x. Works better for me. :3
^


Or DT the song V:
Leads to very, very bad habits and impatience when you revert back to no mod anything less than 180bpm.
It's the reason I'm failing so hard after thinking I could just transfer my mouse only skill to my left-hand and did high bpm and DT insanes off the bat.

Would love to thank fartowink for that delightful list of maps to practice on.
They will probably be the only maps I hear for the next 1-3 months time.
lolcubes
Oh yeah, just adding http://osu.ppy.sh/b/102891 to the list, a newly ranked map.
Some 120bpm awesomeness haha.

Has quite a few streams and while they aren't that hard, it's a good practice if you ask me.
Salvage
I need to practice on High BPM now lol, i can't do 200bpm+



any maps to practice there? .. the problem with me is that i hate to miss so maps where i miss everywhere are not an option :(
lolcubes
Tried Snow Goose? That deathstream in Sharon's diff is quite badass.
Salvage
yep, i can't do that :(
Cyclohexane
This is interesting.
I have the inverted problem: I can stream up to, say 145bpm fine, but everything above 150bpm gives me hell if it has long streams. (I can barely clear F, MENDES or Night Of Fire because of that).
About slow streams, I recommend Glass's Insane on this: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/21624
Since it kinda fits in the title of the topic, if anyone has tips on how to stream faster that are not "buy a better keyboard", I'd gladly take them. I use my laptop's keyboard btw, it's an ASUS EeePC 1001PX (Cheapskate ftw). I've tried playing on a regular USB keyboard, it doesn't help. I've tried playing on Sushi's mech keyboard, doesn't help.
silmarilen
the [canon] diff of http://osu.ppy.sh/s/25871 is also really good for training low speed streams. it has some really long 124 bpm streams near the end.
ziin
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/22424
play this over and over again. Don't forget to download the other 2 diffs at the end of the thread. You'll steadily work your way up from 160 bpm to 200 bpm.
Salvage
I do want to add that i have a nice nice accuracy till 190bpm and having shitty accuracy on 200bpm is not an option, so i don't know if those beatmaps will make me barelly reach 200bpm or mantain my accuracy?
lolcubes
It's all about practice. I still struggle with 200~220 range, but not as much as I did before. Now I can actually hit 30~ notes on 200bpm without getting a 100.
Just continue playing those maps and eventually your ability to play 200bpm will rise.
I couldn't be more of a captain obvious, right? ;x;
koki_old_1
I can FC rog-unlimitation but not mendes fml
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Colored

ziin wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/22424
play this over and over again. Don't forget to download the other 2 diffs at the end of the thread. You'll steadily work your way up from 160 bpm to 200 bpm.
so nice map :) and my so bad acc http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/248104 D: i'll practice, thnx
thelewa

evol wrote:

I can FC rog-unlimitation but not mendes fml
hey I'm the complete opposite
CXu

ragelewa wrote:

evol wrote:

I can FC rog-unlimitation but not mendes fml
hey I'm the complete opposite
lolcubes
I guess some people are just like that.
I am the complete opposite too haha.
silmarilen
i cant FC either, what am i?
Salvage

ragelewa wrote:

evol wrote:

I can FC rog-unlimitation but not mendes fml
hey I'm the complete opposite
XEPCOH
You can fap with one finger. Some players like n0tashy can fap even 192 BPM streams very well.
Neruell

OmAr97 wrote:

You can fap with one finger. Some players like n0tashy can fap even 192 BPM streams very well.
Normally it's called spam, it has nothing to do with accurate playing.
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Colored

Neruell wrote:

Normally it's called spam, it has nothing to do with accurate playing.
yes, like this (193bpm)
D:

easier than mendes for me .
btw, i overtake those 193 D:
lolcubes
Those hitbursts, what is this magic.
silmarilen

uljjang wrote:

Neruell wrote:

Normally it's called spam, it has nothing to do with accurate playing.
yes, like this (193bpm)
D:

easier than mendes for me .
btw, i overtake those 193 D:

<noob here
what is different here than normal streaming?
kriers
<90% equals spam. Idno
Pizzicato
try stiffing your fingers while streaming? It works for me
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Colored

- Pizzicato - wrote:

try stiffing your fingers while streaming? It works for me
sorry, i don't know word "stiffing" D:
what is it?;o

kriers wrote:

<90% equals spam. Idno
yes, you're right ) btw, five days ago i played it always with <80%acc :D hope tomorrow i'll get nice S :lol:


and guys yea, your tips are working \;D/ i become little better in these days :D
Neruell
Also an easier definition for "spam" who doesn't know what it is, is also called buttonsmash. It is more used in "common language".
kriers
but Ragelewa does this, and he gets SS D:
Wishy

Salvage wrote:

yep, i can't do that :(
Guess what, the only way to do it is playing maps like that a shitload of times! Told you a trillion times you gotta get over that attitude@won't play a map where I get misses.

By the way remember streaming with 2 keys 140- BPM or less is USELESS. If you get good you gonna be able to single-tap 140 BPM streams easiily (ok maybe you gonna have trouble at idk Weep Irish). And it depends on your finger's strength... if you have insanely fast fingers it gonna be DAMN HARD to stream at low BPMs, if your fingers are weak then it's gonna be easier since you can't really go way faster than what you should.

With this I mean some people don't even have to try to stream at 200 BPM, so streaming at 170 BPM is like not even playing.
thelewa

kriers wrote:

but Ragelewa does this, and he gets SS D:
I wouldn't know, I got 4x100 out of that shinsekai map :/

compare to elfice who got an SS
Salvage

Wishy22 wrote:

if you have insanely fast fingers it gonna be DAMN HARD to stream at low BPMs, if your fingers are weak then it's gonna be easier since you can't really go way faster than what you should.

With this I mean some people don't even have to try to stream at 200 BPM, so streaming at 170 BPM is like not even playing.


i don't agree with this, streaming fast doesn't mean that you atuomatically start sucking at low streams, i started to be able to do some songs 200bpm with good acc (and some misses btw thats my problem) and i never lost my acc on low bpm, people who does is used to smash buttons non stop and keeps doing it even when you have to follow the rythim
kriers
I agree with Salvage. Besides, not being able to stream low bpm is not about having too fast fingers; it's about rythmical skill and dexterity
Topic Starter
Colored
btw, about those shinsekai.. as for me those streams is not spam, cuz i try to control my fingers. spam is rog-unlimitation or matzcore or something like that, yes its really spam, i don listen music and dont thing about fingers, just zxzxzxxzx ;D
(my english bad, hope u're understand ;D)
lolcubes

kriers wrote:

it's about rythmical skill and dexterity
Pretty much this. High bpm isn't hard if it's near your limit, however you can't keep it up for long, but you can still be very accurate. Lower bpm actually requires careful timing instead of "ok im gonna click as fast as i can".
This is why I have serious trouble in 190-220 range, and I just can't consistently stream it if it's longer than lets say 11 notes. Sometimes I can but I can say that I have to get lucky and be really warmed up.

If you think that low bpm streaming is useless, then that's your way of thinking, I think that streaming low bpm actually gives you a better rhythmic idea on how to stream, eventually expanding on higher bpm where you will stay accurate on longer streams. I can singletap up to 130, but I choose not to, atleast because it's way more fun to stream it imo.
Neruell
I guess low bpm became outdated by now. "No one" plays low bpm, all do it with dt by now. Since there are tons of pros getting out of nowhere like mushrooms after he rain, in several months there will be no low bpm map which has a single non dt rank in the list. So spamming will become more "important" rather than "skill" or accuracy. It applies though to people who do play in order to get a rank somewhere which is actually almost the only popular activity in osu! anyway.

Also high bpm streaming doesn't require real "skill" in most cases because it is mostly a real human limit (200 bpm and higher) and it ends up being pure spamming. Or does someone really believe that 300 bpm controlled streaming is possible? Or is there really any SONG (not a noise compilation) that is so fast.

Since this game is much more about spamming and not rhythm, there is nothing else to expect. Good old days where cyclone did crazy accuracy on most songs.
lolcubes
I don't play this game for some ranks. I play it for fun. If people find spamming buttons for top40 fun, their thing, I'll just keep doing my own thing. :p
Topic Starter
Colored
i think very fun is play low streams with dt with 97-100 accuracy and with no mode with the same acc.. i mean if player can fc maps with dt with shitty acc (92-95) and cant play nomode its not really fun. D:
so yea acc is more important, its rhytm game :o
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