HOW TO STREAM?!

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kriers
<90% equals spam. Idno
Pizzicato
try stiffing your fingers while streaming? It works for me
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- Pizzicato - wrote:

try stiffing your fingers while streaming? It works for me
sorry, i don't know word "stiffing" D:
what is it?;o

kriers wrote:

<90% equals spam. Idno
yes, you're right ) btw, five days ago i played it always with <80%acc :D hope tomorrow i'll get nice S :lol:


and guys yea, your tips are working \;D/ i become little better in these days :D
Neruell
Also an easier definition for "spam" who doesn't know what it is, is also called buttonsmash. It is more used in "common language".
kriers
but Ragelewa does this, and he gets SS D:
Wishy

Salvage wrote:

yep, i can't do that :(
Guess what, the only way to do it is playing maps like that a shitload of times! Told you a trillion times you gotta get over that attitude@won't play a map where I get misses.

By the way remember streaming with 2 keys 140- BPM or less is USELESS. If you get good you gonna be able to single-tap 140 BPM streams easiily (ok maybe you gonna have trouble at idk Weep Irish). And it depends on your finger's strength... if you have insanely fast fingers it gonna be DAMN HARD to stream at low BPMs, if your fingers are weak then it's gonna be easier since you can't really go way faster than what you should.

With this I mean some people don't even have to try to stream at 200 BPM, so streaming at 170 BPM is like not even playing.
thelewa

kriers wrote:

but Ragelewa does this, and he gets SS D:
I wouldn't know, I got 4x100 out of that shinsekai map :/

compare to elfice who got an SS
Salvage

Wishy22 wrote:

if you have insanely fast fingers it gonna be DAMN HARD to stream at low BPMs, if your fingers are weak then it's gonna be easier since you can't really go way faster than what you should.

With this I mean some people don't even have to try to stream at 200 BPM, so streaming at 170 BPM is like not even playing.
i don't agree with this, streaming fast doesn't mean that you atuomatically start sucking at low streams, i started to be able to do some songs 200bpm with good acc (and some misses btw thats my problem) and i never lost my acc on low bpm, people who does is used to smash buttons non stop and keeps doing it even when you have to follow the rythim
kriers
I agree with Salvage. Besides, not being able to stream low bpm is not about having too fast fingers; it's about rythmical skill and dexterity
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btw, about those shinsekai.. as for me those streams is not spam, cuz i try to control my fingers. spam is rog-unlimitation or matzcore or something like that, yes its really spam, i don listen music and dont thing about fingers, just zxzxzxxzx ;D
(my english bad, hope u're understand ;D)
lolcubes

kriers wrote:

it's about rythmical skill and dexterity
Pretty much this. High bpm isn't hard if it's near your limit, however you can't keep it up for long, but you can still be very accurate. Lower bpm actually requires careful timing instead of "ok im gonna click as fast as i can".
This is why I have serious trouble in 190-220 range, and I just can't consistently stream it if it's longer than lets say 11 notes. Sometimes I can but I can say that I have to get lucky and be really warmed up.

If you think that low bpm streaming is useless, then that's your way of thinking, I think that streaming low bpm actually gives you a better rhythmic idea on how to stream, eventually expanding on higher bpm where you will stay accurate on longer streams. I can singletap up to 130, but I choose not to, atleast because it's way more fun to stream it imo.
Neruell
I guess low bpm became outdated by now. "No one" plays low bpm, all do it with dt by now. Since there are tons of pros getting out of nowhere like mushrooms after he rain, in several months there will be no low bpm map which has a single non dt rank in the list. So spamming will become more "important" rather than "skill" or accuracy. It applies though to people who do play in order to get a rank somewhere which is actually almost the only popular activity in osu! anyway.

Also high bpm streaming doesn't require real "skill" in most cases because it is mostly a real human limit (200 bpm and higher) and it ends up being pure spamming. Or does someone really believe that 300 bpm controlled streaming is possible? Or is there really any SONG (not a noise compilation) that is so fast.

Since this game is much more about spamming and not rhythm, there is nothing else to expect. Good old days where cyclone did crazy accuracy on most songs.
lolcubes
I don't play this game for some ranks. I play it for fun. If people find spamming buttons for top40 fun, their thing, I'll just keep doing my own thing. :p
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i think very fun is play low streams with dt with 97-100 accuracy and with no mode with the same acc.. i mean if player can fc maps with dt with shitty acc (92-95) and cant play nomode its not really fun. D:
so yea acc is more important, its rhytm game :o
silmarilen
i can play any speed up to ~180 if the streams arent too long) with 99%+ acc.
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silmarilen wrote:

i can play any speed up to ~180 if the streams arent too long) with 99%+ acc.
if your speed limit is ~180 and you can play any 120-180 streams with 99%acc you're pro, gz!:o
kriers
Nothing feels quite as satisfying as SSing 140 bpm deathstreams. DT doesn't give me a rush anymore...
Salvage
^ agree with kriers right there, i think ranking is fun overall .. but i don't mind not being on a top 40# anyways, i almost allways play no-mods or hidden unless it's a map i like ..

i can do shinsekai with 0 100's and like 10 or 8 misses so i can do high bpm anyways but i can keep it for like the middle of the song and then i start missing a lot :(


about the low bpm's yea i think it's more fun than just trying to make the hardest map possible, i do find rythim over spamming wayyyyyy more fun.
Wishy

kriers wrote:

I agree with Salvage. Besides, not being able to stream low bpm is not about having too fast fingers; it's about rythmical skill and dexterity
Not really, I'm easily able to ace 250+ BPM streams, even some 230 240 too, may do 200 BPM but then doing 180 BPM is like I don't even have to try, and it feels REALLY weird for me to do no effort at all to hit some stream. Of course it's about practice and stuff, but then if you got "slow" fingers you got to make an effort to hit them, so you kind of get the feeling I think, but then if it's like doing nothing trust me it feels REALLY WEIRD, at least that's what I feel when streaming at normal/low BPM, and of course retarded-slow streams are meant for 1key, like Vanessa can't play it with 2key at all but can get almost SS with a 1 key (Another diff). All I gonna say is that the best low BPM streamers I know ALL HAVE SLOW FINGERS and can't really do high BPM at all. Don't come saying RUCKER COOKIEZI WHITE WOLF SILVIA ETC because they are the best players since they rock at every aspect of this game, just go see players like ragelewa or KeigoClear that have almost perfect accuracy but can't do high BPM at all.

I'm saying this based on my own experience, I never really had trouble getting very high acc on fast streams (see Mad Machine, 2 plays) but still I can't do well stuff like reunion at all (unless I'm really tired and I have to somewhat try to get them).

And yeah the fact that low BPM = DT means nobody really tries playing low BPM. There are just a few maps that must be played w/o DT + low BPM, so /care, and most of them are possible to single tap, which means you gotta get some 140~160 highly streamy map + hard patterns so you can't use DT... and not many songs fit for that.
CXu
When you play some shitlong stream at 130bpm and you can choose wether you wanna singletap it or stream it without thinking about getting bad acc. Then you feel pro \o/
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