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Colored
Hello boys and girls. I have a problem - cant play slow streams. I can play 190-200, but cant 150-180, cuz very very slow for me. very.

So.. yea.. can you guys help me? how to stream? TEACH PLEASE.

I request tips and easy BEATMAPS for training streams '':o

also, i hate low 7 AR.

playstyle: bamboo pen+blackwidow. z/x for streams

my english poor, i know


Who have the same problem. lets learn together \:D/

thank you guys for this beatmaps for training: ALL HERE ↓ ↓ ↓
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1.
kriers wrote:

I recommend alternating http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34715 for practice

2.
lolcubes wrote:

I used http://osu.ppy.sh/b/43582 though. It's mapped like 130bpm and it's insanely hard to get awesome accuracy on. The streams aren't long, but if you can hold 99+ accuracy here, streaming low bpm won't be that hard anymore, atleast it wasn't for me.

3.
ragelewa wrote:
I find it easier to stream low bpm if I just increase the force that I smash the buttons with

works pretty fine taking into consideration that I can do stuff like this: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/39194

4.
Jalatiphra wrote:

also': play this http://osu.ppy.sh/s/25127 for improving with slow bpm streams

5.
-Kamui- wrote:
Otherwise i offers that for you : http://osu.ppy.sh/s/27754

6.
lolcubes wrote:
You can also try this map here: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/65417.
Or MENDES, although that one is more about stamina rather than low bpm.

Oh yeah, just adding http://osu.ppy.sh/b/102891 to the list, a newly ranked map.
Some 120bpm awesomeness haha.


Also try to avoid low OD (7 and under) maps if you want to train your accuracy on, because they give you too much of "free space" where you can be wrong in clicking and still get 300s. Lixaxil is a good example of that problem. But it's not a bad thing to start training on I suppose.

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fartownik wrote:
some slow-streamy maps without much jumps, concentrating mostly on streams

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/13767 141bpm
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/23437 140bpm
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/30970 155bpm
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/26598 144bpm
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/53926 157bpm
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/16466 156bpm
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/11141 132bpm
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/14171 138bpm, best 1/3 training
also nyancat

just quality stuff, have fun training

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ziin wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/22424
play this over and over again. Don't forget to download the other 2 diffs at the end of the thread. You'll steadily work your way up from 160 bpm to 200 bpm.
Sander-Don
What is your playstyle? Like mouse or tablet?
Also, do you use z/x or click and or tap with x?
Topic Starter
Colored
tablet+kb
i use z/x for streams. and play z/x only :o .
Sander-Don
Maybe you should try tap and x. Works better for me. :3
kriers
or go mouse only. Solved problem for me
Sync
Alternate 100% of the time. Even on easies. Never 1-key.

or just practice...
Liut
Smash buttons
Neruell
There are only 2 ways in learning something. Either be a natural talent and easely master it or he second way for people who are not so talented is practice. Also a good sense of rhythm helps A LOT.
Topic Starter
Colored
thank you guys \:D/
KRZY
stalking this thread because i have the same problem...
those

KRZY wrote:

stalking this thread because i have the same problem...
We must have greater problems then.
Sync
alternate 100% of the time

even on easies
Vmx
use 1 finger for slow streams? :o
kriers

Neruell wrote:

a good sense of rhythm helps A LOT.
this.

Even if you suck at streams, you can still use your sense of rythm to force it over to your fingers if you actually listen to the hitsounds
lolcubes
Or you can just go play 120-140 bpm maps and alternate everything for a long time. Sounds silly but this worked for me.
Also practice, alot.
-Ryosuke
I have the same problem D:
kriers

lolcubes wrote:

Or you can just go play 120-140 bpm maps and alternate everything for a long time. Sounds silly but this worked for me.
Also practice, alot.
It's not silly at all. It's pretty much the best way.

I remember thinking that I could learn slow streams by learning fast streams, but it just doesn't work like that.
It's the other way around if you wish for a respectable accuracy.

I recommend alternating http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34715 for practice
lolcubes

kriers wrote:

I remember thinking that I could learn slow streams by learning fast streams, but it just doesn't work like that.
It's the other way around if you wish for a respectable accuracy.
I did absolutely the same. Also couldn't have said it better myself. :)
Heh.

I used http://osu.ppy.sh/b/43582 though. It's mapped like 130bpm and it's insanely hard to get awesome accuracy on. The streams aren't long, but if you can hold 99+ accuracy here, streaming low bpm won't be that hard anymore, atleast it wasn't for me.
Neruell
Try that with Hardrock xD Then it is really hard to get a good accuracy xD
Zelmarked
I find it fairly easy. I have to play it a couple times to get down the tempo, and then it comes natural. I just play in my head "da da da da da da da da", like a metronome, to help time my s/d. Sometimes I'll bob my head left and right to physically replicate a metronome.
thelewa
I find it easier to stream low bpm if I just increase the force that I smash the buttons with

works pretty fine taking into consideration that I can do stuff like this: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/39194
ziin
you get better at aspects of osu the same way you get better at any instrument: play etudes. Stuff like chipstream is perfect for streaming practice, though the song itself could be a little bit better designed since the bpm jumps up way too fast.

You can also make your own etudes if you really want to get better. That's probably the best way as it lets you choose the song, the difficulty, the bpm, and all the rhythms you need, so you don't have to learn some other song.

stuff like shoreline is probably a bad idea. rhythms are painfully stupid.
kriers

ziin wrote:

stuff like shoreline is probably a bad idea. rhythms are painfully stupid.
there is nothing wrong with the rythm in shoreline :( why does it make sense to me?

For good players who want to learn streaming, it's not just massive stream practice. It's also an excellent way to start adapting to old style beatmaps with lower approach rates and I don't see why that wouldn't be a good thing?
Just consider that all the players out there, who work hard to become better in every aspect, still whine when they see anything lower than AR9. :lol:
Haseo_old
smash z/x
Espionage724

kriers wrote:

Neruell wrote:

a good sense of rhythm helps A LOT.
this.
Even if you suck at streams, you can still use your sense of rythm to force it over to your fingers if you actually listen to the hitsounds
This

Although sometimes this doesn't work too well for me. It seems like I'm following the beat, but I see a bunch of 100's, 50's then eventually X's sometimes (I don't think I have an audio/video desync thing either). Probably just me following the wrong beat or something :p

Then there are some songs where this works perfectly :)
SOUND HOLIC - Earthquake Super Shock
Tamura Yukari - Endless Story

In any case though, I used to practice streaming endurance on O-Life Japan - Yakujinsama no Couple Dance
Jalatiphra

Zelmarked wrote:

I find it fairly easy. I have to play it a couple times to get down the tempo, and then it comes natural. I just play in my head "da da da da da da da da", like a metronome, to help time my s/d. Sometimes I'll bob my head left and right to physically replicate a metronome.
this is what neruell called : good sense of rythm..

also': play this http://osu.ppy.sh/s/25127 for improving with slow bpm streams
Topic Starter
Colored
so guys thank you for tips and beatmaps \:D/
Neruell
I wouldn't recommend you to make a live blog out of this thread though.
thelewa
Just pointing one thing out in here, most of the people who can stream low bpm well are people who had weak fingers and couldn't play faster streams when they begun playing.

So basically it takes time and proves that just playing the hardest and fastest maps ever isn't the best way to improve, especially if you want to have good overall accuracy.
Neruell
Nothing against anyone, but in osu! accuracy doesn't matter if you can't keep the combo. So people who get a fc even with spamming and low accuracy > top accuracy but 1 or 2 misses. So basically speed > accuracy. Can't stream low bpm, do it like cookiezi and play with dt. xD
lolcubes

Neruell wrote:

Nothing against anyone, but in osu! accuracy doesn't matter if you can't keep the combo. So people who get a fc even with spamming and low accuracy > top accuracy but 1 or 2 misses. So basically speed > accuracy. Can't stream low bpm, do it like cookiezi and play with dt. xD
If you care about the score and the ranking atleast. I play this game for fun, and accuracy play is fun for me. Obviously FCing is a thing you should be doing always haha.
Also if you have godlike accuracy, HD HR can have pretty awesome score too.
-Ryosuke
Otherwise i offers that for you : http://osu.ppy.sh/s/27754
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