For the record, I got no notification that I was motivated. You guys can take that as you will.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Nope.
Roleclaim: Motivator
I motivated Ekaru N1. Carry on now.
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more like mafia motivator who last minute vote changed in an effort to not lynch their mafia buddyDeathxShinigami wrote:
Nope.
Roleclaim: Motivator
I motivated Ekaru N1. Carry on now.
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JInxyjem replaces -Newbie-
Ivalset replaces pieguy1372
Ivalset replaces pieguy1372
Yo
I won't be able to read nor post until.a few.hours, I still have.classes
those dots are.typos ignore them
I won't be able to read nor post until.a few.hours, I still have.classes
those dots are.typos ignore them
Evening folks.
Going to reread the thread, etc.
Going to reread the thread, etc.
hi
From what I can see right now, DxS is suspicious to me. He was also voting for Newbie over animask in Day 1, with a pretty weak reason too.
Then he was suggested as a lynch by foul and claimed right there and then, as a motivator who targeted Ekaru. Ekaru's reply:
But then again, this is the man who claimed Innocent Child in Celebrity, so I dunno
Then he was suggested as a lynch by foul and claimed right there and then, as a motivator who targeted Ekaru. Ekaru's reply:
However, the only thing that doesn't go well with my suspicions is that DxS could have made much better claims than one that's easily refuted. Possibly roleblocked?Ekaru wrote:
For the record, I got no notification that I was motivated. You guys can take that as you will.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Nope.
Roleclaim: Motivator
I motivated Ekaru N1. Carry on now.
But then again, this is the man who claimed Innocent Child in Celebrity, so I dunno
Okay, I got the motivation notification overnight. Salvage just missed it the first time, apparently. XP
...k.
Around 42 more hours
This line stands out to me pretty heavily. It seems like at the last minute of day 1, there was a fair amount of vote shuffling in a misguided attempt to avoid lynching animask via tied votes. DxS brought animask's votes to 3, then animask pushed NoHItter up to 2, then DxS unvotes and votes for Newbie instead, possibly hoping that animask going from 3 -> 2 would put him behind NoHItter in the lynch line.Rantai wrote:
Huh... pretty sure that's a NoHItter lynch if I'm looking at this right.
For this reasoning I find all of Mashley, DxS and Rantai to be suspicious in different degrees.
Mashley for clearly attempting to save animask by persuading people to vote for a lurker instead.
DxS for his actions - pushing animask above 2 then back down to 2.
and Rantai for misreading the tied vote rules and bringing attention to the vote changes.
I'm quite comfortable with a Mashley lynch right now, so Vote: Mashley
well to be fair, even though DxS looks scummy, if it weren't for his vote + unvote animask wouldnt have been lynched...Ivalset wrote:
This line stands out to me pretty heavily. It seems like at the last minute of day 1, there was a fair amount of vote shuffling in a misguided attempt to avoid lynching animask via tied votes. DxS brought animask's votes to 3, then animask pushed NoHItter up to 2, then DxS unvotes and votes for Newbie instead, possibly hoping that animask going from 3 -> 2 would put him behind NoHItter in the lynch line.Rantai wrote:
Huh... pretty sure that's a NoHItter lynch if I'm looking at this right.
For this reasoning I find all of Mashley, DxS and Rantai to be suspicious in different degrees.
Mashley for clearly attempting to save animask by persuading people to vote for a lurker instead.
DxS for his actions - pushing animask above 2 then back down to 2.
and Rantai for misreading the tied vote rules and bringing attention to the vote changes.
I'm quite comfortable with a Mashley lynch right now, so Vote: Mashley
Pretty sure he still would have. Animask was at 2 votes and at the top of the lynch list before dxs voted and unvoted.
Huh. No.
I went through it carefully. Hitter was the first to 2 votes, not animask. This is based off an earlier game (ages ago, can't remember which game) where the mechanics worked via:
Take that as you will. In the end it was a mod decision where my words hold no sway.
I went through it carefully. Hitter was the first to 2 votes, not animask. This is based off an earlier game (ages ago, can't remember which game) where the mechanics worked via:
SPOILER
A is at 2
B is 3
B to be lynched
A is at 2
B is unvoted to 2
A to be lynched
B is 3
B to be lynched
A is at 2
B is unvoted to 2
A to be lynched
Take that as you will. In the end it was a mod decision where my words hold no sway.
And yes, I do know that was your argument against me.
Those were mechanics introduced into two's first mafia game but were changed before the game started. Interestingly enough, you were involved in the discussion.
viewtopic.php?p=1027357#p1027357
Discussion on the tied vote rule is on the first two pages.
viewtopic.php?p=1330260#p1330260 is where animask is solidified at 2 votes and never falls below that. At that point in time, animask is second on the lynch list - viewtopic.php?p=1330461#p1330461
Later, sync brings ekaru up to 3 votes but then unvotes, then animask unvotes ekaru and seals his own fate by bringing himself to the top of the lynch list. Furthermore, Nohitter drops to 1 vote viewtopic.php?p=1333209#p1333209 when mashley votes for newbie instead. When animask switches to nohitter and puts him at 2 votes, animask is still first to be lynched because he reached 2 votes before nohitter did.
Also, there's an example of how tied votes works in this game in the first post!
viewtopic.php?p=1027357#p1027357
Discussion on the tied vote rule is on the first two pages.
viewtopic.php?p=1330260#p1330260 is where animask is solidified at 2 votes and never falls below that. At that point in time, animask is second on the lynch list - viewtopic.php?p=1330461#p1330461
Later, sync brings ekaru up to 3 votes but then unvotes, then animask unvotes ekaru and seals his own fate by bringing himself to the top of the lynch list. Furthermore, Nohitter drops to 1 vote viewtopic.php?p=1333209#p1333209 when mashley votes for newbie instead. When animask switches to nohitter and puts him at 2 votes, animask is still first to be lynched because he reached 2 votes before nohitter did.
Also, there's an example of how tied votes works in this game in the first post!
The first post doesn't cover 3 to 2~ (it's a 2v2 situation)
Though thanks for reminding me where that discussion took place. It seems I got the original mechanic stuck in my head.
Well then, that's cleared up for me.
Though thanks for reminding me where that discussion took place. It seems I got the original mechanic stuck in my head.
Well then, that's cleared up for me.
will post after dinner. I'm so behind of this game orz
I understand that the voting was very odd last night. They could have really just focused someone so animask won't get lynched. However, one post animask has made gave me a pretty bad impression.
Vote: Mashley
This is very odd and makes me pretty confident that animask is trying to distance Mashley. Like, he explains a lot about Mashley, but ends up voting for NoHItter without his own reasoning :<animask wrote:
Fos Mashley
*Reasons why he FoSes Mashley*
Vote: NoHItter
Vote: Mashley
Topic Starter
VOTE COUNT:
Mashley (5) - foulcoon, Ekaru, Wojjan, Ivalset, bmin11
Not voting (8) -LadySuburu, JInxjyjem, DeathxShinigami, Mashley, 0_o, Sync, Rantai, Lilac
Mashley (5) - foulcoon, Ekaru, Wojjan, Ivalset, bmin11
Not voting (8) -LadySuburu, JInxjyjem, DeathxShinigami, Mashley, 0_o, Sync, Rantai, Lilac
vote Mashley
SHEEP SHEEP SHEEP SHEEP
actually the relationship between animask and mashley is pretty hilarious
SHEEP SHEEP SHEEP SHEEP
actually the relationship between animask and mashley is pretty hilarious
Roleclaim Doublevoter
Seriously I can't even defend myself against this... My day one vote looked scummy out of pure coincidence, and if people are so convinced that I'm scum there's nothing I can do. My second vote shows as anonymous and is cast through PM, which is weird since as I understand it's usually just cast in the thread through 'vote 2:' or whatever... I dunno about that though.
Seriously I can't even defend myself against this... My day one vote looked scummy out of pure coincidence, and if people are so convinced that I'm scum there's nothing I can do. My second vote shows as anonymous and is cast through PM, which is weird since as I understand it's usually just cast in the thread through 'vote 2:' or whatever... I dunno about that though.
inb4 scum jumps in and hammers me
Well proving a double voter isn't hard I guess.
But that role can swing both ways so er yeah, not sure if I can believe you're town right now.
But that role can swing both ways so er yeah, not sure if I can believe you're town right now.
Argh, the problem with double voters are that they can easily be a vote stealer. We could try to tie the vote up until N-1 with someone majority and make Mashley to hammer to see if the vote was stolen was double voted.
Well, if you're a double voter then vote for someone twice and we'll see it as anonymous on the votecount. That seems pretty easy to test.
We can prove his claim, but we can't prove that he's town.
As a purely role-based look:
Anonymous doublevoter benefits scum more than town. (Is better as a scum role)
Open doublevoter benefits town more than scum. (Is better as a town role)
Now, with that being said we've had tons of roles in recent games that would generally be thought of as scum-aligned that aren't. I'm not sure that his claim being true or not should change anything about how scummy he is.
As a purely role-based look:
Anonymous doublevoter benefits scum more than town. (Is better as a scum role)
Open doublevoter benefits town more than scum. (Is better as a town role)
Now, with that being said we've had tons of roles in recent games that would generally be thought of as scum-aligned that aren't. I'm not sure that his claim being true or not should change anything about how scummy he is.
Yeah, even if he is telling the truth there's nothing about the role that really clears him. Worse case scenario we mislynch a scummy town doublevoter, which as far as aux roles go, is one of the safer ones to lose.
Any objections to a hammer?
Any objections to a hammer?
Oh right
Vote foulcoon
Second vote should show up in the next votecount.
Vote foulcoon
Second vote should show up in the next votecount.
Hm, day ended 2 hours ago I believe
Or did I fuck up times again
Or did I fuck up times again
Topic Starter
VOTE COUNT:
Mashley (5) - foulcoon, Ekaru, Wojjan, Ivalset, bmin11
foulcoon (1) - Mashley
Mashley (1) - Billy Bob
Not voting (7) -LadySuburu, JInxjyjem, DeathxShinigami, 0_o, Sync, Rantai, Lilac
Mashley - Mafia 1-Shot Janitor - Lynched D2
IT IS NOW NIGHT 2, DEADLINE IS IN 24 HOURS
Mashley (5) - foulcoon, Ekaru, Wojjan, Ivalset, bmin11
foulcoon (1) - Mashley
Mashley (1) - Billy Bob
Not voting (7) -LadySuburu, JInxjyjem, DeathxShinigami, 0_o, Sync, Rantai, Lilac
Mashley - Mafia 1-Shot Janitor - Lynched D2
IT IS NOW NIGHT 2, DEADLINE IS IN 24 HOURS
Topic Starter
Nobody died.
IT IS NOW DAY 3, DEADLINE IS IN 72 HOURS
IT IS NOW DAY 3, DEADLINE IS IN 72 HOURS
lol'd
is mafia completely inactive or some shit
is mafia completely inactive or some shit
you guys love me.
okay im thinking DxS for lynch
also thinking LS is town
okay im thinking DxS for lynch
also thinking LS is town
first off im thinking one of the two replacement people could be mafia. just depends on who was more likely, pieguy or -Newbie-
also read the bold:
any thoughts?
also read the bold:
havent considered the possibility that sync and or ekaru are mafia yet.Ivalset wrote:
Those were mechanics introduced into two's first mafia game but were changed before the game started. Interestingly enough, you were involved in the discussion.
viewtopic.php?p=1027357#p1027357
Discussion on the tied vote rule is on the first two pages.
viewtopic.php?p=1330260#p1330260 is where animask is solidified at 2 votes and never falls below that. At that point in time, animask is second on the lynch list - viewtopic.php?p=1330461#p1330461
Later, sync brings ekaru up to 3 votes but then unvotes, then animask unvotes ekaru and seals his own fate by bringing himself to the top of the lynch list. Furthermore, Nohitter drops to 1 vote viewtopic.php?p=1333209#p1333209 when mashley votes for newbie instead. When animask switches to nohitter and puts him at 2 votes, animask is still first to be lynched because he reached 2 votes before nohitter did.
Also, there's an example of how tied votes works in this game in the first post!
any thoughts?
I don't think Ekaru is mafia simply because it seems ridiculous to allow animask to be lynched that easily d1.
I'm honestly even more surprised that no one died.
I'm fine with a DxS lynch and maybe a Sync lynch. Really not convinced on an Ekaru lynch.
I'm honestly even more surprised that no one died.
I'm fine with a DxS lynch and maybe a Sync lynch. Really not convinced on an Ekaru lynch.
havent considered the possibility that sync and or ekaru are mafia yet.If I was mafia then I would've voted for NoHItter on day one, not animask. ;P
any thoughts?
I'm up Lilac just purely for his inactiveness.
By the way, how many mafias do you guys expect?
By the way, how many mafias do you guys expect?
18 players. I'd say 4 possibly 5 but that's pushing it.
Also; Vote: 0_o
Also; Vote: 0_o
Echo, justifying possible town lynch (under the guise of 'safe'), fishing for hammer confirmation. To a lesser degree a vote on Mashley in rvs (distancing anyone?).0_o wrote:
Yeah, even if he is telling the truth there's nothing about the role that really clears him. Worse case scenario we mislynch a scummy town doublevoter, which as far as aux roles go, is one of the safer ones to lose.
Any objections to a hammer?