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well alrighty then
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Damn, if it's true that the rest of the US players had no idea that the foul play was occurring, then I feel really bad for them. All their hard work and dedication turned moot.

As for the people being skeptical whether the proof was enough to convict Dargin or not, I personally trust the staff and their analysis of the evidence being enough to believe it was foul play. They wouldn't make a HUGE decision like this without having multiple staff members being 100% certain about it.
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This sucks... quite unfortunate that such a promising player has been restricted. Stay strong USA~
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I'm getting anxiety, what the actual fuck.

So sorry to hear about this, as a US player I'm empathetic.

n1do noooo :cry:
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:(
Prayers for n1do and USA 🙏
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Well imagine my sjokk It seems even cheats can’t beat Taiwan numba wan
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peppy wrote:

Alchyr wrote:

This is not to say that I don't trust your investigations, but I would appreciate it if there was some kind of video or something showing a review of the footage and an explanation of the cheating method to make it absolutely clear to anyone that it is the truth. Because well, to be honest I'd rather not believe it, so any kind of clear viewable proof would be helpful.

Zing wrote:

I, for one, am not convinced. I have had rapport with Dargin throughout this process, and he is terrified about the spectre of suspicion raised by what I suspect to be a few players salty that their team lost to a country they wrote off as illegitimate. Evidence? What evidence? Does the fact that Dargin literally does not have the internet speed to stream his hands while he streams his screen, count as evidence? What about this "footage" and "back-end detective work"? I, for one, would welcome the opportunity to see for myself what this staff believes is decisive evidence of cheating.
We asked the user to provide us a video stream (from a phone or better) showing his screen and hands. He did this and four members of the team (including myself) analysed it over the last few days. The delay before we made this announcement was a mixture of us wanting to be 101% sure of what we found, but also due to the amount of time it takes to go through video footage frame-by-frame to find discrepancies (or the lack thereof).

Our standard restriction policies are to not release evidence as it only aids people in learning and improving their ways going forward – releasing such footage would require an unfeasible change to our restriction process.

Furthermore, this was a private request and we explicitly said the video would not be shared beyond the team. The user is free to share the footage on a non-official osu! forum if they believe our decision to be incorrect, but our team is 100% sure about our judgement here.

I understand the emotion behind this, but it is something we all have to come to terms with, unfortunately.
To be honest this response raises up so many other questions which does not help the situation...
either way we just got to continue moving forward at this point. No good will come from blowing this up more and more.
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You're welcome to ask further questions; I will answer with as much detail as I can. I don't think asking/answering questions is blowing this up any further.
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I've got a question. Do you use any software that scans the processes to find out if a user is cheating?
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:c
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Wow, what the fuck? Tournaments are more or less a celebration of skill. Cheating in them is just so unfathomably stupid.
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Never thought you can actually cheat in a gamemode like Taiko... That's so stupid.
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wewlad
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yikes

my condolences to the USA team, this has got to hurt really bad
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grindersky wrote:

Never thought you can actually cheat in a gamemode like Taiko... That's so stupid.
I've seen videos on Youtube of people trying to cheat in every game mode but I don't know why you'd even do it in Taiko anyway even if you're a scummy cheater who wants fake praise since you gain even less in Taiko cheating than you would in any other mode because so few people play it. In a tournament no less for a game mode barely anyone watches or plays... how sad do you have to be to do this?
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This is extremely gut wrenching for the USA team as a whole.

But if he really is cheating, then there's no way to go about it. The next step is to wait for an official response from the player and what staff are planning next. This is too early into the battlefield.

EDIT: Ok, there is a response.
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I literally unexpected to see something like this. So sorry for US team.
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grindersky wrote:

Never thought you can actually cheat in a gamemode like Taiko... That's so stupid.
literally like.....
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Can everyone just stop flooding here with irrelevant comments? Especially people who are not related to the taiko community. Just close this thread already and leave the guy alone.
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