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Zektbach - Blind Justice ~ Torn Souls, Hurt Faiths ~

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Mayonnaise Dad
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, February 12, 2012 at 3:11:36 AM

Artist: Zektbach
Title: Blind Justice ~ Torn Souls, Hurt Faiths ~
Source: Dance Dance Revolution SuperNOVA2
Tags: DDR Maiko Horisawa Nox Matin Beatmania IIDX 14 GOLD pop'n'music Noigllado Azuelgatt karterfreak
BPM: 165
Filesize: 12569kb
Play Time: 01:38
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4.64 stars, 180 notes)
  2. Insane (4.95 stars, 292 notes)
  3. karterfreak's Taiko (4.72 stars, 631 notes)
  4. Normal (2.78 stars, 117 notes)
Download: Zektbach - Blind Justice ~ Torn Souls, Hurt Faiths ~
Download: Zektbach - Blind Justice ~ Torn Souls, Hurt Faiths ~ (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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My ... probably 8th beatmap uploaded just for fun. First serious "try to get ranked" map.

Taiko map is 100% done by Karterfreak. Thanks a lot~

Taiko BPM is the way it is to induce speeding at the very end. The BPM is still 165 throughout the majority of the map.
a32
the source should be: Beatmania IIDX but not Beatmania IDXX.
Topic Starter
Mayonnaise Dad
Right.. I don't know how that got that way o_e. Must have been a typo. Thanks!
Kurowolfe
Here's the mods, Souji, though I must say, I'm out of practice in the modding department. =w=

[General]
- The source should be DDR SuperNOVA2, since you're using the shortened version with the beginning cut off, unlike the BeatMania version. I'm not too sure about this though, you will need to ask others to confirm this.
- Try adding these to the tags: Maiko Horisawa Nox Matin BeatMania IIDX 14 GOLD pop'n'music Noigllado Azuelgatt
- The size of the background used for Normal is non-standard (600 x 405), which should be in 4:3 ratio. The modified one's attached at the bottom.
- Preview points have not been set up. I suggest using 0:33:618 as the preview point. To do this, go to this specific time, click the Timing tab and click on 'Set Current Position as Preview Point'. Do this for every difficulty.

[Normal]
Some of the sliders' ends have this mini inflections which might be a bit weird. I'm ok with it since it makes the map more interesting, but I can't say for the MATs and BATS around here. Try asking for more mods to see what the others think of this.

Also, you might need to add a break time somewhere, since this is a Normal map. Maybe from 0:57:255 to 1:02:346?

0:06:162 [2] - Try removing this slider and add just a circle at 0:06:526. Adjust spacing if this mod is applied.
0:23:799 [x] - There should really be a circle here, but I assume that you're being careful with the spinner, so this is just a note.
0:32:345 [1] - Add a finish at the end of this spinner.
0:55:436 [3] - Maybe add a finish at the end?
1:08:528 [1] - The slider's not straight. Move the 4th point to x=336,y=200 and the end point to x=408,y=272.

[Insane]
Don't forget to set a background for this one.

0:29:254 [1] - The beginning of this slider is obscured by the combobursts from the X sliders before this. EIther move this slider elsewhere or space out the slider in the X formation so that the center is free (though this will cause more drastic jumps).
1:02:346 [4] - Move the endpoint of this slider to x=320, y=176.
1:12:528 [x] - Add a circle here.
1:13:255 [2] - Move the endpoint of this slider to x=208, y=208.
1:29:256 [1] - Move this slider one grid up so that the center aligns with the center of the screen.

That's all, I guess. All the best with this one~
And no kudosu please.

Topic Starter
Mayonnaise Dad
Thanks, Kuro. Those points really helped me a lot. Invisible Kudosu given!
Banana
hi~ here is Banana, from my queue

general
kiai should be same in each diff.00:56:891 - 01:31:801 may be
offset:173 (+10 to both red point and green points) if you change it, don't forget timing->resnap all notes

insane
00:16:718 (2,3) - this part is not suit the music
01:08:538 (9) - use a halfbeat silder instead
01:11:265 (4,1) - and 01:11:811 (3,4) have a same distance and is not a good idea
01:14:538 (1) - same thing as above
01:31:811 (1) - use a halfbeat silder instead


hard

00:45:618 (1) - this spacing make me confused..though it is ok in AImod, you should double the spacing
00:49:436 - add a note?
00:53:982 (1,2) - repeat once more?
01:33:619 (3) - 2 grids up to make spacing better

normal
Set slider tickrate 2 for consistense
00:02:890 (2,3) - use slider instead, now it is hard for noobies
00:56:891 - you can map this period for this song is short and don't need so much break time
01:37:619 - how about this:
btw, in a three-star diff, it seems that we seldom use notes on red lines (or half beat point), to make it easy
Topic Starter
Mayonnaise Dad

Banana wrote:

hi~ here is Banana, from my queue

general
kiai should be same in each diff.00:56:891 - 01:31:801 may bedone
offset:173 (+10 to both red point and green points) if you change it, don't forget timing->resnap all notes Done. It does sound better.

insane
00:16:718 (2,3) - this part is not suit the music fixed to better suit the background/removed off red beat
01:08:538 (9) - use a halfbeat silder instead done
01:11:265 (4,1) - and 01:11:811 (3,4) have a same distance and is not a good ideaNot sure if I got what you meant, but I did adjust it to what I understood
01:14:538 (1) - same thing as above same
01:31:811 (1) - use a halfbeat silder insteadDone. It does make it easier to understand and hit the jump finish after.


hard

00:45:618 (1) - this spacing make me confused..though it is ok in AImod, you should double the spacingdoubled spacing for beginning of slow part then kept soft spacing after
00:49:436 - add a note?Did this as well.
00:53:982 (1,2) - repeat once more? Did to both sliders
01:33:619 (3) - 2 grids up to make spacing betterDone

normal
Set slider tickrate 2 for consistense
00:02:890 (2,3) - use slider instead, now it is hard for noobies Had that as a slider at first, but was advised against it
00:56:891 - you can map this period for this song is short and don't need so much break time Same as above with this. Reverted.
01:37:619 - how about this:[attachment=0:c3413]543.jpg[/attachment:c3413]also changed that to something a little easier and more.. combo racking. X3
btw, in a three-star diff, it seems that we seldom use notes on red lines (or half beat point), to make it easy

Thank you so much, Banana. Kudosu!
GigaClon
All the sliders should be using smooth points, the classical nature of this song calls for it.
the longer sliders should have some curve to them. see previous point.

Would like to see Hard as a 4 star song, but is just a suggestion

I like the different BGs for each diff. Much like DJ Max. But the difficulty fonts don't work, they need to be slimmer and more stylized. Also i can't see the Blind Justice on the Insane diff BG.

[Normal]
the last sliders should look like this http://puu.sh/dFfu (or something simliar)

[Hard]
00:04:354 (3) - Add to the next combo? Looks weird
00:24:173 (1,2) - Add to the next combo
00:27:809 (1) - Add to the previous combo
00:51:083 (1) - Add to next combo
01:19:811 (1) - Remove new combo
01:33:993 (1) - ^

[Insane]
00:16:173 (3) - Remove new combo
00:46:719 (2) - ^
01:08:538 (9) - Add to the previous combo looks weird
Topic Starter
Mayonnaise Dad

GigaClon wrote:

All the sliders should be using smooth points, the classical nature of this song calls for it.
the longer sliders should have some curve to them. see previous point.

Would like to see Hard as a 4 star song, but is just a suggestion

I like the different BGs for each diff. Much like DJ Max. But the difficulty fonts don't work, they need to be slimmer and more stylized. Also i can't see the Blind Justice on the Insane diff BG. <- Will work on resizing the image, or find a completely new one.

[Normal]
the last sliders should look like this http://puu.sh/dFfu (or something simliar) <- fixed to look better and snapped

[Hard]
00:04:354 (3) - Add to the next combo? Looks weird <- I generally try to keep all notes in a section the same color. Makes it more interesting for Tag games. If this tends to be a problem in future mods it may very well change
00:24:173 (1,2) - Add to the next combo <- done
00:27:809 (1) - Add to the previous combo <- added to next combo for same reasons as 00:04:354
00:51:083 (1) - Add to next combo <- Same reason as 00:04:354
01:19:811 (1) - Remove new combo <- Done. That was rather idiotic of me
01:33:993 (1) - ^ <- Done. That one does make more sense.

[Insane]
00:16:173 (3) - Remove new combo <- Combo change there was purposefully to indicate a jump. I know it seems odd, but this is recurring throughout the map.
00:46:719 (2) - ^ <- Done. It does look better.
01:08:538 (9) - Add to the previous combo looks weird <- Done
Kudosu given. Thanks for the mod! Will work on the images and fonts.
What
Hi~
my little MOD :3


[normal]
00:04:536 (4) - move to x:416 y:72 ?

[Hard]
00:11:809 (1) - delete NC?
00:24:173 (1) - ^
00:24:900 (3) - NC?
00:54:719 (2,3) - I think this notes is far.
01:09:992 (1) - delete NC?

[Insane]
00:06:718 (1) - delete NC?
00:07:445 (1) - ^
00:44:537 (1) - ^
00:47:264 (3) - Move to x:296 y:72 ?
Topic Starter
Mayonnaise Dad

What wrote:

Hi~
my little MOD :3


[normal]
00:04:536 (4) - move to x:416 y:72 ? <- done

[Hard]
00:11:809 (1) - delete NC? <- ^
00:24:173 (1) - ^ <- did, also adjusted to stop combo length from going to 9
00:24:900 (3) - NC? <- part of ^'s fix
00:54:719 (2,3) - I think this notes is far. <- It was
01:09:992 (1) - delete NC? <- On that part, I don't think I will unless I get more flak for it

[Insane]
00:06:718 (1) - delete NC? <- done
00:07:445 (1) - ^ <- ^
00:44:537 (1) - ^ <- <- Done
00:47:264 (3) - Move to x:296 y:72 ?
<- Done


Thanks~
Topic Starter
Mayonnaise Dad
Lowered hitsound volumes so they aren't BLARING LOUD
Kryptogram
Hi There Here is my Mod

General: Important

Since you changed the timming of the song the time lines get messed up so the Kia times should be like this

00:56:901 (1) - Begin Kia
01:31:811 (5) - End Kia

For all the difficults

The PreviwTime for all the dificults should be

PreviewTime: 33618

And last thing fix the Inheriting sections Due the change of time

Normal

OD +1

00:23:446 (3) - Remove NC ?
00:34:355 (1) - Start the break here ? http://puu.sh/f12b
00:55:446 (3) - Try to don't use so many repeats May confuse new players
01:22:356 (3) - ^
01:30:356 (5) - ^ ...
01:32:175 (1) - Add whistle in the reverse arrow
01:33:266 (2) - Add whistle at the end of the slider
01:35:448 (2) - Add whistle in the begin and the end of the slider
01:36:357 (1) - Add whistle at the begin of the slider
01:38:084 (1) - ^

Hard

00:17:981 (1) - Try this
312,72,17981,6,0,B|360:128|360:200,1,140,0|8
00:28:527 (2) - Remove NC
00:48:164 (1) - Add whistle at the begin of the slider
00:51:073 (1) - ^
00:55:436 (3) - Add finish at the end of the slider
01:08:528 (1) - 2 grids up or x:304 y:336 its the same thing :P
01:19:801 (3) - Remove NC
01:25:983 (1) - Add finish at the begin of the slider
01:32:165 (1) - Add whistle at the reverse arrow
01:33:256 (2) - Add whistle at the begin of the slider
01:33:983 (1) - ^ and add whistle at the end
01:35:438 (1) - Add whistle in all the slider begin, reverse and end

Insane

00:40:173 (2) - Remove clap at the begin of the slider
01:33:266 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 1 grid up

Thats all hope it was helpful

Good Luck !
Crimmi
Modding, CrimmiStyle!!

[General]

  • The title is supposed to be "Blind Justice ~Torn souls, Hurt Faiths~"
    The way you have the source set up is wrong, it's supposed to be "Dance Dance Revolution SuperNOVA2" and "DDR" supposed to go in the tags.
    The M & B in "BeatMania" has to be lowercase.
    "GOReFj1326778337.jpg" is 600x405, resize it to 640x480?
    "qNYYro1326778148".jpg is 1365x768, resize it to 1024x768?
    There is an unused Taiko BG in the folder, delete it if it's not going to be used.
    Try this offset of 163, it sounds better IMO.
[Normal]

Why the KIAI time on this diff is longer than the other diffs?

00:00:162 (1) - Snap this note.
00:23:446 (1) - New Combo?
00:29:264 (1) - New Combo.
01:10:346 (1) - Remove New Combo.
01:37:801 (1) -This ends better on the red tick.
01:38:165 (1) - This ends better on the white tick.

[Hard]

01:36:710 (1) - This sounds so early, place it on 01:36:801

[Insane]



Nothing~
Topic Starter
Mayonnaise Dad

[Te][Amo] wrote:

Hi There Here is my Mod

General: Important

Since you changed the timming of the song the time lines get messed up so the Kia times should be like this

00:56:901 (1) - Begin Kia
01:31:811 (5) - End Kia

For all the difficults

The PreviwTime for all the dificults should be

PreviewTime: 33618

And last thing fix the Inheriting sections Due the change of time

Normal

OD +1

00:23:446 (3) - Remove NC ? <- Done
00:34:355 (1) - Start the break here ? http://puu.sh/f12b <- ..Not sure how to change break times besides adding notes, sorry ._.
00:55:446 (3) - Try to don't use so many repeats May confuse new players <- I'll see about that. I'd expect people playing on a "Normal" level to expect to hold a slider. Maybe if it was Easy.
01:22:356 (3) - ^ <- Done
01:30:356 (5) - ^ ... <- long slider with plenty of time to see next note, like with 55:446.
01:32:175 (1) - Add whistle in the reverse arrow <- Done
01:33:266 (2) - Add whistle at the end of the slider <- Done
01:35:448 (2) - Add whistle in the begin and the end of the slider <- Done
01:36:357 (1) - Add whistle at the begin of the slider <- Done
01:38:084 (1) - ^ <- Done

Hard

00:17:981 (1) - Try this
312,72,17981,6,0,B|360:128|360:200,1,140,0|8
<- ...Im not sure what that is o_O
00:28:527 (2) - Remove NC <- Done
00:48:164 (1) - Add whistle at the begin of the slider <- done
00:51:073 (1) - ^ <- Done
00:55:436 (3) - Add finish at the end of the slider <- Done
01:08:528 (1) - 2 grids up or x:304 y:336 its the same thing :P <- Done
01:19:801 (3) - Remove NC <- done
01:25:983 (1) - Add finish at the begin of the slider <- done
01:32:165 (1) - Add whistle at the reverse arrow <- done
01:33:256 (2) - Add whistle at the begin of the slider <- done
01:33:983 (1) - ^ and add whistle at the end <- done
01:35:438 (1) - Add whistle in all the slider begin, reverse and end <- done

Insane

00:40:173 (2) - Remove clap at the begin of the slider <- done
01:33:266 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 1 grid up

Thats all hope it was helpful <- Done

Good Luck !
Thank you so much~ Kudosu~

..I could have sworn some of these had been fixed. I know I had some problems uploading at one point o.o
Topic Starter
Mayonnaise Dad

Crimmi wrote:

Modding, CrimmiStyle!!

[General]

  • The title is supposed to be "Blind Justice ~Torn souls, Hurt Faiths~"<- changed
    The way you have the source set up is wrong, it's supposed to be "Dance Dance Revolution SuperNOVA2" and "DDR" supposed to go in the tags.<- changed
    The M & B in "BeatMania" has to be lowercase.<- changed
    "GOReFj1326778337.jpg" is 600x405, resize it to 640x480?<- Will do
    "qNYYro1326778148".jpg is 1365x768, resize it to 1024x768?<- Will also do
    There is an unused Taiko BG in the folder, delete it if it's not going to be used. <- Deleting
    Try this offset of 163, it sounds better IMO.
<- changed as well

[Normal]

Why the KIAI time on this diff is longer than the other diffs? <- Changed. I had problems uploading and for some reason everything reverted to a default mode...

00:00:162 (1) - Snap this note. <- ..snap to what? Im not sure what it should snap to o.o
00:23:446 (1) - New Combo? <- No
00:29:264 (1) - New Combo. <- ..for some reason my map already has this as a new combo.
01:10:346 (1) - Remove New Combo. <- Done. Added new combo after
01:37:801 (1) -This ends better on the red tick. <- Done
01:38:165 (1) - This ends better on the white tick. <- To me, it sounds like it hits the music on blue. ><

[Hard]

01:36:710 (1) - This sounds so early, place it on 01:36:801 <- ..it's placed that way on mine. I hate this submission system so damn much sometimes.

[Insane]



Nothing~
Thanks for everything... hopefully this will ALL SUBMIT RIGHT. Star.
Topic Starter
Mayonnaise Dad
Changed name back to what I HAD because it made a whole new topic. Awesome.
Autonom
okay here we go (more info about the colours in my signature)

[general]
i'm more comfortable with the offset at 147
change the bpm to 164,920

[insane]
01:34:694 (1) - extend to 01:35:058 and move the other elements

[hard]
nothing wrong here

[normal]
nothing wrong here as well

that's all :)
Topic Starter
Mayonnaise Dad

Autonom wrote:

okay here we go (more info about the colours in my signature)

[general]
i'm more comfortable with the offset at 147
change the bpm to 164,920

[insane]
01:34:694 (1) - extend to 01:35:058 and move the other elements

[hard]
nothing wrong here

[normal]
nothing wrong here as well

that's all :)
Thank you :3. I will fix these when I get back from work~
Nickiestyer
Hmm, nothing seems to be wrong with it to me~
Aweosme job!
Starred!
Anti_old
Hmm
on the insane 00:35:254 broke my combo every time it could just be me but something like http://puu.sh/fg0q might be easier to adapt too
thats all for now i'll edit this post if i see anything else
Topic Starter
Mayonnaise Dad

Anti wrote:

Hmm
on the insane 00:35:254 broke my combo every time it could just be me but something like http://puu.sh/fg0q might be easier to adapt too
thats all for now i'll edit this post if i see anything else
I think it might be you, since you're the first to actually mention anything like that. But yes, please do. Any input is valuable~
NeoRainier
Le Neo taikomod on Karterfreak's Taiko

Legend:
Better changing it
Just a suggestion
Alternative patterns


General:

Lower Hp drain rate from 7 to 4~5
About OD, well 7 is the maximum suggested for Taiko diffs, if you wanna change this, lower it to 6 (song is kinda short)
Even if kiai sections seems long, for me it's ok :D

Patterns & co:

00:10:344 (1) - from d -> D
00:13:436 (2,3,4) - from kkd -> kkk
00:20:345 (10) - from d -> k
00:20:526 (11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,1) - dkdddkdkdkkdkkdkd
00:22:890 (8) - from d -> k
00:25:981 (9,10,11) - change into this and make them ddk
00:26:799 (4,5) - from dk -> kd
00:30:527 (6,1) - from d k -> k d
00:31:527 (6,7,8,9) - from kddk -> dkkd
00:32:163 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - dkkdkkdkdkkdkkdkd (this one sounds pretty good)
00:37:800 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,1) - - from kdd ddk k kkdkkkdkd -> ddk dkk k dkkdkddkd
00:43:618 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,1) - ^same
00:54:346 (4) - it's better avoiding finish notes at the end of a stream, even if it fits
00:55:073 (8) - ^same
01:03:709 (8,9) - from dk -> kd
01:04:527 (5) - from k -> d
01:04:891 (7,8,9,10) - from kk dk -> dd kd
01:22:528 (4) - add a d | 01:22:892 (6) - add a k
01:28:346 (4) - ^same | 01:28:710 (6) - ^same

It's all for now :D
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