2018-04-15 03:54 Dreamwalker: 00:08:848 (8848|0,8848|1) - 
2018-04-15 03:54 K a b i -: it's lack of mods
2018-04-15 03:54 K a b i -: i'm trying to get more modders onto his diff
2018-04-15 03:54 Dreamwalker: 00:09:668 (9668|2,9668|0,9727|1,9786|3,9844|2,9903|0,9961|1,10020|3,10078|2) - 
2018-04-15 03:54 K a b i -: i think that part should be kept simpler
2018-04-15 03:55 K a b i -: but i will leave that to modders
2018-04-15 03:55 Dreamwalker: yeah
2018-04-15 03:55 Dreamwalker: no i mean
2018-04-15 03:55 Dreamwalker: it's like turururrurrur?? sound at the back
2018-04-15 03:55 Dreamwalker: but it's not consistent
2018-04-15 03:55 K a b i -: XD
2018-04-15 03:55 K a b i -: i get what you mean
2018-04-15 03:56 Dreamwalker: i know that stream-able sound is strongest at 00:09:668 - 
2018-04-15 03:56 Dreamwalker: yeah
2018-04-15 03:56 Dreamwalker: 00:11:543 (11543|0,11543|3,11661|2,11661|1) - 
2018-04-15 03:56 Dreamwalker: 00:12:012 (12012|1,12129|1) - 
2018-04-15 03:56 Dreamwalker: like this again
2018-04-15 03:57 K a b i -: inconsistent
2018-04-15 03:57 Dreamwalker: yeah
2018-04-15 03:57 Dreamwalker: 00:12:481 - starting from here
2018-04-15 03:57 Dreamwalker: i really don't get what he have done for this part
2018-04-15 03:57 Dreamwalker: like
2018-04-15 03:57 K a b i -: i will remind him tomorrow
2018-04-15 03:57 Dreamwalker: jacks are just randomly made
2018-04-15 03:57 K a b i -: it seems like he's offline right now
2018-04-15 03:58 K a b i -: yea
2018-04-15 03:58 K a b i -: even though it should be easier than INFINITE diff
2018-04-15 03:58 Dreamwalker: so what i would do here
2018-04-15 03:58 Dreamwalker: is
2018-04-15 03:58 K a b i -: but it's a lot harder
2018-04-15 03:58 K a b i -: lmao
2018-04-15 04:00 K a b i -: oh yea if you wanna see how i do my piano keysounds, you can take a look at 01:19:161 - at hardest diff
2018-04-15 04:00 Dreamwalker: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10714579
2018-04-15 04:00 Dreamwalker: hmm kk
2018-04-15 04:01 Dreamwalker: another problem is
2018-04-15 04:01 Dreamwalker: 00:19:278 (19278|1,19336|2,19395|3,19453|2,19512|1,19571|3,19629|2,19688|1,19746|2,19805|3,19864|1,19922|2,19981|3,20039|1,20098|2,20157|3,20215|2,20274|1,20332|2,20391|3,20450|1,20508|2,20567|3) - 
2018-04-15 04:01 Dreamwalker: this whole part is way harder than even the last diff
2018-04-15 04:02 Dreamwalker: dongjin's max
2018-04-15 04:02 Dreamwalker: and umo's grav
2018-04-15 04:02 K a b i -: oh yea that part ..
2018-04-15 04:02 K a b i -: so hard
2018-04-15 04:02 Dreamwalker: i mean
2018-04-15 04:02 Dreamwalker: it's for around
2018-04-15 04:02 Dreamwalker: 5.8 star pattern
2018-04-15 04:02 Dreamwalker: or a bit more
2018-04-15 04:02 Dreamwalker: somewhat like my bubbled map
2018-04-15 04:03 K a b i -: here too .. 02:17:051 (137051|1,137109|2,137168|3,137227|1,137285|2,137344|3) -
2018-04-15 04:03 Dreamwalker: yep
2018-04-15 04:03 Dreamwalker: so these things are
2018-04-15 04:03 Dreamwalker: for me 'must' be fixed
2018-04-15 04:03 K a b i -: that pattern on a 256 bpm
2018-04-15 04:03 K a b i -: and on a 4*
2018-04-15 04:03 K a b i -: hmm
2018-04-15 04:03 K a b i -: i will tell him to nerf these parts . .
2018-04-15 04:04 Dreamwalker: and just like 02:49:394 - 
2018-04-15 04:04 Dreamwalker: it's the exact cases for
2018-04-15 04:04 Dreamwalker: overusing teleports
2018-04-15 04:05 Dreamwalker: 02:59:706 - also like here
2018-04-15 04:05 K a b i -: this can be troublesome
2018-04-15 04:05 K a b i -: especially if he's stubborn about this
2018-04-15 04:05 Dreamwalker: 03:03:221 - here goes again
2018-04-15 04:05 Dreamwalker: well what i usually do is
2018-04-15 04:05 Dreamwalker: just simply deleting that gd
2018-04-15 04:05 Dreamwalker: although it might ruin a bit of relationship
2018-04-15 04:06 Dreamwalker: might being too harsh tho
2018-04-15 04:06 Dreamwalker: didn't get much gd's before
2018-04-15 04:06 Dreamwalker: cuz i only mapped for myself
2018-04-15 04:06 K a b i -: well he's a friend of mine so i wouldn't simply delete his diff, but if his map is the problem that i can't get my map into ranked section
2018-04-15 04:06 K a b i -: i will delete it
2018-04-15 04:06 K a b i -: no hesitation
2018-04-15 04:07 Dreamwalker: 03:11:307 - also like this
2018-04-15 04:07 Dreamwalker: tell him
2018-04-15 04:07 K a b i -: i plan to complete to mapset by mid may
2018-04-15 04:07 Dreamwalker: simply using strong SVs is not the optimal solution
2018-04-15 04:07 K a b i -: this mapset*
2018-04-15 04:07 K a b i -: what am i typing ;;
2018-04-15 04:07 K a b i -: yea
2018-04-15 04:07 K a b i -: true
2018-04-15 04:07 Dreamwalker: then checking?
2018-04-15 04:07 Dreamwalker: like
2018-04-15 04:07 Dreamwalker: being ranked at june
2018-04-15 04:08 K a b i -: i won't rush it tbh
2018-04-15 04:08 K a b i -: i will have 2 months of free time
2018-04-15 04:08 K a b i -: from june to august
2018-04-15 04:08 K a b i -: but for now
2018-04-15 04:08 K a b i -: i am busy af
2018-04-15 04:08 K a b i -: it kinda surprises me
2018-04-15 04:08 K a b i -: that this mapset got
2018-04-15 04:08 K a b i -: 20+ favs
2018-04-15 04:08 Dreamwalker: aha
2018-04-15 04:09 Dreamwalker: hmm
2018-04-15 04:09 Dreamwalker: it's sdvx
2018-04-15 04:09 K a b i -: i didnt expect that tbh
2018-04-15 04:09 K a b i -: that might be one of the factor
2018-04-15 04:09 Dreamwalker: sdvx stuff is usually favoratized well
2018-04-15 04:09 Dreamwalker: like
2018-04-15 04:09 Dreamwalker: not blaming sdvx but
2018-04-15 04:09 Dreamwalker: always see people getting way much favs
2018-04-15 04:09 Dreamwalker: including
2018-04-15 04:10 Dreamwalker: lude or jakads 4/7k chroma-I
2018-04-15 04:10 K a b i -: jakads' map
2018-04-15 04:10 K a b i -: lmao
2018-04-15 04:10 K a b i -: 50+ favs
2018-04-15 04:10 Dreamwalker: was a bit too fast
2018-04-15 04:10 K a b i -: in 2 months
2018-04-15 04:10 Dreamwalker: nah
2018-04-15 04:10 K a b i -: and look at the hypes
2018-04-15 04:10 Dreamwalker: it was about two weeks or so
2018-04-15 04:10 Dreamwalker: he already got 40+ at that time
2018-04-15 04:10 K a b i -: no actually he mapped this back in february
2018-04-15 04:10 K a b i -: he changed his name so yeah he needs to reupload it
2018-04-15 04:11 K a b i -: but 50+ favs in 2 months lol
2018-04-15 04:11 K a b i -: outrageous
2018-04-15 04:11 Dreamwalker: no i mean
2018-04-15 04:11 Dreamwalker: he got 40 favs in 2 weeks from feb
2018-04-15 04:11 K a b i -: ohh
2018-04-15 04:11 K a b i -: yea
2018-04-15 04:11 Dreamwalker: and 30 fav for lude's 4k
2018-04-15 04:11 Dreamwalker: it's
2018-04-15 04:11 Dreamwalker: way faster than evening's well made SV stuff
2018-04-15 04:12 K a b i -: fame and popularity
2018-04-15 04:12 K a b i -: including social relations
2018-04-15 04:12 Dreamwalker: jakads?
2018-04-15 04:12 K a b i -: even some of the newly ranked maps don'
2018-04-15 04:12 K a b i -: don't get as much favs*
2018-04-15 04:12 K a b i -: yea
2018-04-15 04:12 Dreamwalker: but what about lude :P
2018-04-15 04:12 K a b i -: hmm
2018-04-15 04:12 K a b i -: i'm not sure about that
2018-04-15 04:12 K a b i -: xd
2018-04-15 04:13 Dreamwalker: so that's what basically sdvx maps get
2018-04-15 04:13 K a b i -: it's just crazy
2018-04-15 04:13 Dreamwalker: cuz vash majority of osu players are 
2018-04-15 04:13 K a b i -: and because it's famous
2018-04-15 04:13 K a b i -: it's easy to get ranked
2018-04-15 04:13 Dreamwalker: heavily related to sdvx
2018-04-15 04:13 Dreamwalker: famoss
2018-04-15 04:13 Dreamwalker: anyway
2018-04-15 04:14 K a b i -: what about him o.o
2018-04-15 04:14 Dreamwalker: let's get back to the map
2018-04-15 04:14 K a b i -: yea
2018-04-15 04:14 K a b i -: overused jacks tbh
2018-04-15 04:14 Dreamwalker: like 03:44:706 (224706|2,224706|1,224823|0,224823|3,224940|0,224940|1,225057|3,225057|2,225174|3,225174|1,225291|2,225291|0,225409|1,225409|2) - 
2018-04-15 04:14 Dreamwalker: these jacks should be
2018-04-15 04:14 Dreamwalker: somewhat feel different with
2018-04-15 04:14 Dreamwalker: 03:43:651 (223651|2,223651|1,223768|3,223768|1,223885|0,223885|2,224002|2,224002|1,224120|3,224120|0,224237|1,224237|0,224354|3,224354|2,224471|3,224471|1,224588|0,224588|2) - 
2018-04-15 04:14 Dreamwalker: these parts right?
2018-04-15 04:15 K a b i -: yes
2018-04-15 04:15 Dreamwalker: which means it's structurally unclear
2018-04-15 04:15 K a b i -: it should be different
2018-04-15 04:15 K a b i -: but he made it somewhat similar to every parts
2018-04-15 04:15 K a b i -: lmao
2018-04-15 04:15 Dreamwalker: yeah
2018-04-15 04:15 Dreamwalker: it's not much about consistency
2018-04-15 04:16 K a b i -: i just need, a key person that would scar him for life in mapping
2018-04-15 04:16 K a b i -: xd
2018-04-15 04:16 K a b i -: i mean, someone should really criticize him hard for it
2018-04-15 04:16 K a b i -: and make him change it
2018-04-15 04:16 K a b i -: i can't do it
2018-04-15 04:16 Dreamwalker: aah that's a really hard thing to do for anyone
2018-04-15 04:16 K a b i -: it's just absurdly hard to convince him
2018-04-15 04:17 Dreamwalker: is he
2018-04-15 04:17 Dreamwalker: good at english
2018-04-15 04:17 Dreamwalker: just asking cuz he's japanese
2018-04-15 04:17 K a b i -: not a japanese
2018-04-15 04:17 K a b i -: indonesian
2018-04-15 04:17 K a b i -: he created his account in japan
2018-04-15 04:17 Dreamwalker: lmao
2018-04-15 04:17 K a b i -: and gues what, he's living in malaysia rn
2018-04-15 04:17 K a b i -: :thinking:
2018-04-15 04:17 Dreamwalker: lmvao
2018-04-15 04:18 K a b i -: and for his english skills
2018-04-15 04:18 Dreamwalker: there goes an international guy
2018-04-15 04:18 K a b i -: average i guess?
2018-04-15 04:18 Dreamwalker: well malay people speak english well
2018-04-15 04:18 K a b i -: no
2018-04-15 04:18 Dreamwalker: ah wait he's indo
2018-04-15 04:18 K a b i -: not really
2018-04-15 04:18 K a b i -: XD
2018-04-15 04:18 K a b i -: yea
2018-04-15 04:18 K a b i -: indo
2018-04-15 04:18 Dreamwalker: vuk me
2018-04-15 04:19 Dreamwalker: oh no my laptop key is jammed aww
2018-04-15 04:19 Dreamwalker: vamoss club
2018-04-15 04:19 K a b i -: LMAO
2018-04-15 04:19 K a b i -: same problem?
2018-04-15 04:19 K a b i -: can't type f ?
2018-04-15 04:19 Dreamwalker: it's always nice making fun of VAMoss
2018-04-15 04:19 Dreamwalker: nah just kidding
2018-04-15 04:19 K a b i -: VAMoss kun
2018-04-15 04:20 K a b i -: VAMoss 2
2018-04-15 04:20 Dreamwalker: haha
2018-04-15 04:20 K a b i -: and VAM oss
2018-04-15 04:20 K a b i -: hmm
2018-04-15 04:20 Dreamwalker: VAMoss junior
2018-04-15 04:20 Dreamwalker: that guy is
2018-04-15 04:20 Dreamwalker: taiko guy tho
2018-04-15 04:20 K a b i -: all that's left is
2018-04-15 04:20 K a b i -: laputa
2018-04-15 04:20 Dreamwalker: Vaputa
2018-04-15 04:20 K a b i -: omg xd
2018-04-15 04:20 Dreamwalker: idk why he came to the server
2018-04-15 04:20 Dreamwalker: he might start mania mapping
2018-04-15 04:20 K a b i -: i am not  sure either
2018-04-15 04:21 K a b i -: do try to guide him in mapping mania though
2018-04-15 04:21 Dreamwalker: ah already made just acceptable quality jacking chart before
2018-04-15 04:21 Dreamwalker: wasn't that bad
2018-04-15 04:21 Dreamwalker: better than this gd imo
2018-04-15 04:21 K a b i -: still can be improved
2018-04-15 04:21 Dreamwalker: was bit repetitive tho
2018-04-15 04:21 K a b i -: i haven't check his gd
2018-04-15 04:22 Dreamwalker: 03:59:783 (239783|1,239861|1,239939|1) - 
2018-04-15 04:22 Dreamwalker: owo
2018-04-15 04:22 Dreamwalker: what's this?
2018-04-15 04:22 K a b i -: LMAO
2018-04-15 04:22 K a b i -: i didnt notice tthat
2018-04-15 04:22 K a b i -: that exists in my diff :^)
2018-04-15 04:22 K a b i -: but i didnt expect it to be here
2018-04-15 04:22 Dreamwalker: 02:07:911 (127911|1) - stream starting from here
2018-04-15 04:22 K a b i -: i think you missed an even more outrageous one 00:42:832 (42832|2,42911|2,42989|2,43067|2) -
2018-04-15 04:23 K a b i -: uh huh
2018-04-15 04:23 Dreamwalker: i know it's 2 time repeating structure
2018-04-15 04:23 Dreamwalker: but pitch should be more considered for this case imo
2018-04-15 04:23 Dreamwalker: oh shit
2018-04-15 04:23 Dreamwalker: i definitely missed that one
2018-04-15 04:23 K a b i -: oh yea
2018-04-15 04:23 K a b i -: XD
2018-04-15 04:24 Dreamwalker: 00:42:832 - 
2018-04-15 04:24 Dreamwalker: actually this part is
2018-04-15 04:24 K a b i -: at the end of the day, if he does fixed all of these jacks, svs problems
2018-04-15 04:24 Dreamwalker: polyrhythm
2018-04-15 04:24 K a b i -: i think the map wouldn't even be more than 4.2*
2018-04-15 04:24 Dreamwalker: yeah
2018-04-15 04:24 Dreamwalker: but SR does not matter that much
2018-04-15 04:24 Dreamwalker: 00:46:465 (46465|2,46465|3,46582|3,46582|2) -
2018-04-15 04:25 Dreamwalker: where is my pitch
2018-04-15 04:25 Dreamwalker: 00:48:340 (48340|0,48340|1,48457|1,48457|0) - 
2018-04-15 04:25 K a b i -: huh wdym by that
2018-04-15 04:25 K a b i -: ohh
2018-04-15 04:25 K a b i -: it may be for the SVs patterning
2018-04-15 04:26 Dreamwalker: well it might be justified by simply ignoring drums for sv or jacking
2018-04-15 04:26 Dreamwalker: but still that's quite awkward while playing
2018-04-15 04:26 K a b i -: ah man, this diff has caused me quite a lot of troubles tbh
2018-04-15 04:26 Dreamwalker: 00:46:465 (46465|2) - 
2018-04-15 04:26 K a b i -: ;-;
2018-04-15 04:26 Dreamwalker: at least put this note on col 2
2018-04-15 04:27 Dreamwalker: or i mean made him to do so
2018-04-15 04:27 K a b i -: ok
2018-04-15 04:27 K a b i -: gotta screenshot this so i wouldn't forget xd
2018-04-15 04:27 Dreamwalker: 00:56:661 (56661|2,56895|0,56953|3,57012|2) - 
2018-04-15 04:27 Dreamwalker: can't say this is good or consistent ln style
2018-04-15 04:28 K a b i -: . wrong snaps
2018-04-15 04:28 K a b i -: sldf kalf jsfd ;jwe r
2018-04-15 04:28 Dreamwalker: 00:58:770 (58770|2,59121|3,59239|3,59239|2) - this isn't that good to play
2018-04-15 04:28 Dreamwalker: nor emphasizing the sound in a good way
2018-04-15 04:29 Dreamwalker: 01:03:340 (63340|0,63399|1,63457|3,63516|2,63575|1,63633|0,63692|3,63750|2,63809|0,63868|1,63926|2,63985|3,64043|0,64102|1,64161|3,64219|2,64278|1,64336|0,64395|3,64453|2,64512|0,64571|1,64629|2,64688|3,64746|0,64805|1,64864|3) -
2018-04-15 04:29 Dreamwalker: aww
2018-04-15 04:29 Dreamwalker: at least give some variation
2018-04-15 04:29 Dreamwalker: there's still pitch
2018-04-15 04:29 K a b i -: i will savelog this chat after we're done lmao
2018-04-15 04:29 Dreamwalker: or at least some consistent variations that are dynamic
2018-04-15 04:29 Dreamwalker: yep
2018-04-15 04:30 K a b i -: it's just frustrating
2018-04-15 04:30 Dreamwalker: 01:06:036 - for this part
2018-04-15 04:30 K a b i -: but if i were to delete his map
2018-04-15 04:30 K a b i -: everything would be a lot smoother
2018-04-15 04:30 Dreamwalker: i guess we need to focus more for drum sounds on 1/2s
2018-04-15 04:30 Dreamwalker: i know it's 2 note for piano
2018-04-15 04:30 Dreamwalker: but still it's quite confusing layering
2018-04-15 04:31 K a b i -: i think it's consistent for the drums
2018-04-15 04:31 K a b i -: it's always 2 notes on 1/2
2018-04-15 04:31 K a b i -: hm
2018-04-15 04:31 K a b i -: you may be right
2018-04-15 04:31 Dreamwalker: 01:06:739 (66739|3,66856|3,68262|1,68379|1) - because of unintentional jacks
2018-04-15 04:31 K a b i -: layering problem
2018-04-15 04:31 Dreamwalker: not saying it's inconsistent
2018-04-15 04:31 Dreamwalker: just it's not the optimal solution for 4 star map
2018-04-15 04:32 Dreamwalker: 01:09:668 (69668|3,69727|2) - ctrl + j?
2018-04-15 04:32 Dreamwalker: well for this part
2018-04-15 04:32 K a b i -: yeah it definitely have a better flow like that
2018-04-15 04:32 Dreamwalker: the way i would emphasize piano sounds is
2018-04-15 04:32 Dreamwalker: giving very short longnotes
2018-04-15 04:33 K a b i -: i think that idea would clash with hardest diff
2018-04-15 04:33 K a b i -: o.o
2018-04-15 04:33 Dreamwalker: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10714887
2018-04-15 04:33 Dreamwalker: ah
2018-04-15 04:33 Dreamwalker: okay
2018-04-15 04:33 Dreamwalker: then no
2018-04-15 04:34 Dreamwalker: (that's why i only make one or two for the same song)
2018-04-15 04:34 Dreamwalker: psst
2018-04-15 04:34 K a b i -: hngg
2018-04-15 04:34 K a b i -: some patterns are unavoidable i guess
2018-04-15 04:34 Dreamwalker: 01:26:661 - and again
2018-04-15 04:34 Dreamwalker: this part
2018-04-15 04:35 K a b i -: should have more variations i guess
2018-04-15 04:35 K a b i -: it's just a little bit too
2018-04-15 04:35 K a b i -: normal?
2018-04-15 04:35 Dreamwalker: yes
2018-04-15 04:35 Dreamwalker: and also
2018-04-15 04:35 Dreamwalker: way easier than other parts
2018-04-15 04:36 Dreamwalker: so need some small twicks
2018-04-15 04:36 K a b i -: ok i think that's enough mod for his diff XD
2018-04-15 04:36 K a b i -: just too many things
2018-04-15 04:36 K a b i -: to fix
2018-04-15 04:36 K a b i -: do you think hardest diff is a little bit too overmapped :v
2018-04-15 04:36 Dreamwalker:  i would do like
2018-04-15 04:38 Dreamwalker: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10714929
2018-04-15 04:39 Dreamwalker: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10714937
2018-04-15 04:39 K a b i -: so basically, just more variations
2018-04-15 04:40 Dreamwalker: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10714942
2018-04-15 04:40 Dreamwalker: no
2018-04-15 04:40 Dreamwalker: i guess this fits with pitch itself
2018-04-15 04:40 Dreamwalker: wouldn't be that bad
2018-04-15 04:40 Dreamwalker: test it
2018-04-15 04:40 K a b i -: i will save these SS's
2018-04-15 04:40 Dreamwalker: kk
2018-04-15 04:40 Dreamwalker: nah you just have to 
2018-04-15 04:41 Dreamwalker: save the chatlog
2018-04-15 04:41 K a b i -: oh yea
2018-04-15 04:41 Dreamwalker: haha
2018-04-15 04:41 K a b i -: but it will be kinda long i guess xd
2018-04-15 04:42 Dreamwalker: and i guess with this much it would cover most of the problems that this map basically has
2018-04-15 04:42 K a b i -: is pattern like this acceptable in 6* 03:15:292 (195292|1,195292|0,195292|2,195409|0,195409|1,195409|3,195526|2,195526|3,195526|0,195643|2,195643|1,195643|3,195760|3,195760|2,195760|0,195878|3,195878|0,195878|1,195995|1,195995|0,195995|2) -
2018-04-15 04:42 K a b i -: yeahh
2018-04-15 04:42 Dreamwalker: uh
2018-04-15 04:42 Dreamwalker: yes i can fc that part
2018-04-15 04:42 Dreamwalker: but still
2018-04-15 04:43 Dreamwalker: it's bit overmapped in my sight
2018-04-15 04:43 K a b i -: it's actually fc-able
2018-04-15 04:43 K a b i -: this map
2018-04-15 04:43 Dreamwalker: i mean
2018-04-15 04:43 K a b i -: cheewee had a 1 sliderbreak run on it >.>
2018-04-15 04:43 Dreamwalker: it's acceptable in 6 star
2018-04-15 04:43 Dreamwalker: ah no
2018-04-15 04:43 Dreamwalker: not cheewee
2018-04-15 04:43 K a b i -: D:
2018-04-15 04:43 Dreamwalker: we shouldn't talk about non humanic cases
2018-04-15 04:44 K a b i -: ahh true zzz
2018-04-15 04:44 K a b i -: people like him and other top 4k players
2018-04-15 04:44 K a b i -: can fc this with ease
2018-04-15 04:44 Dreamwalker: yup
2018-04-15 04:44 K a b i -: just maybe the LNs are not that easy :^)
2018-04-15 04:45 Dreamwalker: 03:44:706 (224706|0,224706|2,224706|1,224823|1,224823|3,224823|2,224940|3,224940|0,224940|2,225057|1,225057|0,225057|3,225174|0,225174|1,225174|2,225291|1,225291|3,225291|0,225409|0,225409|2,225409|3) - 
2018-04-15 04:45 Dreamwalker: not sure about here
2018-04-15 04:46 Dreamwalker: can't say this is good layering
2018-04-15 04:46 K a b i -: yea it's a bit too nasty to play
2018-04-15 04:46 Dreamwalker: 03:45:409 (225409|0,225526|1,225526|2,225760|3,225760|0,225877|2,225877|1,225995|3,225995|0,226112|2,226112|1) - for here
2018-04-15 04:46 K a b i -: i have thought of remapping that part
2018-04-15 04:46 Dreamwalker: 03:45:526 (225526|2,225526|1) - okay for this
2018-04-15 04:46 Dreamwalker: 03:45:760 (225760|3,225760|0) - delete either 1 or 4
2018-04-15 04:46 Dreamwalker: and
2018-04-15 04:47 Dreamwalker: 03:45:877 (225877|2,225877|1,225995|3,225995|0,226112|2,226112|1) - make one of the lns to normal note
2018-04-15 04:47 Dreamwalker: and focus on pitch for ln
2018-04-15 04:47 Dreamwalker: 03:50:799 (230799|3,230916|3) - 
2018-04-15 04:48 Dreamwalker: this is good for emphasizing 03:50:799 - bell? sound here
2018-04-15 04:48 Dreamwalker: so make it consistent for later parts
2018-04-15 04:48 Dreamwalker: 03:51:502 (231502|1,231502|0,231620|3) - 
2018-04-15 04:48 Dreamwalker: 03:52:206 (232206|1,232206|3,232323|2) - 
2018-04-15 04:48 Dreamwalker: 03:52:909 (232909|0,232909|2,233026|3) - 
2018-04-15 04:48 K a b i -: okay i get what you mean
2018-04-15 04:48 K a b i -: i will make these changes
2018-04-15 04:49 Dreamwalker: 01:28:614 (88614|0,88692|2,88770|1,88848|3,88926|0,89004|2,89082|1,89161|3,89239|0,89317|2) - 
2018-04-15 04:49 Dreamwalker: for me it seems there need some changes here
2018-04-15 04:49 Dreamwalker: by focusing on pitch again
2018-04-15 04:49 Dreamwalker: it's not like consistent 3241
2018-04-15 04:50 Dreamwalker: fixing ln stuff is hard tho X(
2018-04-15 04:50 K a b i -: hmm yea
2018-04-15 04:50 K a b i -: will have to put back those keysounds too
2018-04-15 04:50 Dreamwalker: 01:32:286 - just give 1 more note on col 2
2018-04-15 04:50 K a b i -: oh yea
2018-04-15 04:50 K a b i -: ok
2018-04-15 04:51 Dreamwalker: 01:33:926 (93926|2,93985|3) - 
2018-04-15 04:51 Dreamwalker: 01:33:926 (93926|2) - col4
2018-04-15 04:51 Dreamwalker: 01:33:985 (93985|3) - col1
2018-04-15 04:52 K a b i -: hmm
2018-04-15 04:52 K a b i -: ok
2018-04-15 04:52 Dreamwalker: 01:35:977 (95977|0) - for this it's just a question for you
2018-04-15 04:52 Dreamwalker: is it just okay to make that ln longer?
2018-04-15 04:52 Dreamwalker: i'm not good at dealing with bunch of lns so
2018-04-15 04:53 Dreamwalker: asking for later mapping haha
2018-04-15 04:53 K a b i -: im actually fine with it being longer or shorter
2018-04-15 04:53 K a b i -: it's just that
2018-04-15 04:53 K a b i -: it seems a little bit cleaner
2018-04-15 04:53 K a b i -: if i make it shorter
2018-04-15 04:53 K a b i -: and yes
2018-04-15 04:53 K a b i -: it's ok to make that ln longer
2018-04-15 04:53 Dreamwalker: ah oki
2018-04-15 04:53 K a b i -: it's just my preference really x)
2018-04-15 04:53 Dreamwalker: thought what it would be lke
2018-04-15 04:54 K a b i -: i've really used a lot of patterns inside this diff
2018-04-15 04:54 Dreamwalker: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10715079
2018-04-15 04:54 Dreamwalker: haha
2018-04-15 04:54 K a b i -: lns jacks jumptrills jumpstreams
2018-04-15 04:54 K a b i -: wait lemme try that
2018-04-15 04:56 K a b i -: hey it actually looks cool
2018-04-15 04:56 K a b i -: but in this case i would want to stay consistent with this part 03:03:456 (183456|0,183514|1,183573|2,183632|3,183690|0,183749|1,183807|2,183866|3) -
2018-04-15 04:56 Dreamwalker: same patterns go for that one
2018-04-15 04:56 K a b i -: lemme try that too
2018-04-15 04:57 Dreamwalker: hey you already tried similar one 01:42:246 - here too
2018-04-15 04:58 K a b i -: yea XD
2018-04-15 04:58 Dreamwalker: anyway
2018-04-15 04:58 K a b i -: seems like people like it
2018-04-15 04:58 Dreamwalker: it's just suggestion
2018-04-15 04:58 K a b i -: because they say it has a nice feeling to it
2018-04-15 04:58 Dreamwalker: 01:55:371 (115371|1,115371|0,115489|2,115489|3,115606|0,115606|1,115723|2,115723|3,115723|1,115840|1,115840|2,115840|3,115957|1,115957|2,115957|3) - 
2018-04-15 04:58 Dreamwalker: here
2018-04-15 04:58 Dreamwalker: too drastic for transition part
2018-04-15 04:59 K a b i -: ok i will change to ur suggestion, needs a little more pattern x)
2018-04-15 04:59 K a b i -: oh do you have any suggestion for this part?
2018-04-15 05:00 K a b i -: hey don't you need to sleep xd, it's 5am at your place owo
2018-04-15 05:00 Dreamwalker: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10715137
2018-04-15 05:00 Dreamwalker: like this?
2018-04-15 05:00 Dreamwalker: what's sleep?
2018-04-15 05:00 Dreamwalker: owo
2018-04-15 05:01 Dreamwalker: i don't care but
2018-04-15 05:01 K a b i -: i dunno, can it be eaten
2018-04-15 05:01 Dreamwalker: are you okay with your timezone
2018-04-15 05:01 K a b i -: xd
2018-04-15 05:01 K a b i -: it's 4am here
2018-04-15 05:01 K a b i -: im used to it
2018-04-15 05:01 K a b i -: tbh
2018-04-15 05:01 Dreamwalker: me too
2018-04-15 05:01 Dreamwalker: XD
2018-04-15 05:01 K a b i -: college messed up my body block real hard
2018-04-15 05:01 Dreamwalker: can college be eaten
2018-04-15 05:02 K a b i -: i wish i could
2018-04-15 05:02 K a b i -: :(
2018-04-15 05:02 Dreamwalker: your lns are gay
2018-04-15 05:03 Dreamwalker: 02:14:942 - i guess
2018-04-15 05:03 Dreamwalker: this part is overmapped
2018-04-15 05:03 K a b i -: cuz i love LNs xd
2018-04-15 05:03 Dreamwalker: for every quad
2018-04-15 05:03 Dreamwalker: i guess it should be double
2018-04-15 05:03 K a b i -: because i think the quad parts are slightly louder than the triples
2018-04-15 05:03 K a b i -: so i thought i would put quads
2018-04-15 05:04 Dreamwalker: yeah but
2018-04-15 05:04 Dreamwalker: number of notes is not only the factor that can emphasize the sound
2018-04-15 05:04 Dreamwalker: for here it's jacks
2018-04-15 05:05 Dreamwalker: chicken omm
2018-04-15 05:05 K a b i -: yea lemme check his diff real quick
2018-04-15 05:05 K a b i -: >.>
2018-04-15 05:05 K a b i -: oh
2018-04-15 05:05 Dreamwalker: some chicken maps are bit rotten these days :P
2018-04-15 05:05 K a b i -: he used doubles for the parts where i used quads
2018-04-15 05:05 Dreamwalker: you see?
2018-04-15 05:05 Dreamwalker: haha
2018-04-15 05:05 K a b i -: is it pun intended
2018-04-15 05:05 Dreamwalker: anyway
2018-04-15 05:06 K a b i -: but thissss should be way harder than his diff
2018-04-15 05:06 K a b i -: so yeah
2018-04-15 05:06 K a b i -: quads XD
2018-04-15 05:06 Dreamwalker: i'll give an example to show how doubles could be way harder than quad
2018-04-15 05:06 K a b i -: okay
2018-04-15 05:06 Dreamwalker: oh okay then
2018-04-15 05:06 K a b i -: looks more aesthetic too
2018-04-15 05:06 K a b i -: xd
2018-04-15 05:06 K a b i -: jk
2018-04-15 05:07 Dreamwalker: then just in case you're curious
2018-04-15 05:07 Dreamwalker: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10715197
2018-04-15 05:07 Dreamwalker: it's basically more technical in a way
2018-04-15 05:08 K a b i -: "some chicken maps are bit rotten these days"
2018-04-15 05:08 K a b i -: i like this one
2018-04-15 05:08 K a b i -: hey isn;t that from kfc's diff
2018-04-15 05:08 Dreamwalker: lmao
2018-04-15 05:08 Dreamwalker: wait
2018-04-15 05:08 K a b i -: rotten chicken meat
2018-04-15 05:08 Dreamwalker: really
2018-04-15 05:08 Dreamwalker: it's like
2018-04-15 05:08 Dreamwalker: the most unconfortable style
2018-04-15 05:08 Dreamwalker: yet consistent
2018-04-15 05:08 Dreamwalker: that's how chicken map these days
2018-04-15 05:09 Dreamwalker: avoiding patterns that are easy/widly used
2018-04-15 05:09 Dreamwalker: with some pattern copied from sdvx itself
2018-04-15 05:09 K a b i -: i wouldn't want my map to get labelled as a work of plagiarism DX
2018-04-15 05:09 Dreamwalker: haha
2018-04-15 05:09 Dreamwalker: let's move on
2018-04-15 05:09 K a b i -: i totally didn't get any single reference
2018-04-15 05:09 Dreamwalker: 02:17:051 (137051|2,137109|1,137168|2,137285|2,137344|1,137461|1,137520|2,137637|2,137695|1,137813|1,137871|2,137988|2,138047|1,138164|1,138223|2,138340|2,138399|1,138516|1,138574|2,138692|2) - 
2018-04-15 05:09 K a b i -: while i was mapping this
2018-04-15 05:10 Dreamwalker: for here
2018-04-15 05:10 Dreamwalker: yeah me too
2018-04-15 05:10 K a b i -: oh yeahh the gay part
2018-04-15 05:10 Dreamwalker: though i mostly map songs that are never mapped before
2018-04-15 05:10 K a b i -: people said that part is fine
2018-04-15 05:10 Dreamwalker: that part is
2018-04-15 05:10 Dreamwalker: fine
2018-04-15 05:10 K a b i -: coconut milk
2018-04-15 05:10 Dreamwalker: yet bit too 23 concentrated
2018-04-15 05:10 Dreamwalker: not me
2018-04-15 05:11 Dreamwalker: but some might mention about it while bubble or quali phase
2018-04-15 05:11 K a b i -: i can't think of any patterns other than that one
2018-04-15 05:11 K a b i -: if i use normal rice
2018-04-15 05:11 K a b i -: it would be too normal
2018-04-15 05:11 K a b i -: and easy
2018-04-15 05:11 Dreamwalker: think of um
2018-04-15 05:12 Dreamwalker: haelequin last diff's stream part
2018-04-15 05:12 K a b i -: the short version right
2018-04-15 05:12 Dreamwalker: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10715241
2018-04-15 05:12 K a b i -: not the one with 5 minutes
2018-04-15 05:13 Dreamwalker: make this to LN
2018-04-15 05:13 Dreamwalker: won't be that bad
2018-04-15 05:13 K a b i -: inverse LNs? xD
2018-04-15 05:13 Dreamwalker: yep
2018-04-15 05:13 Dreamwalker: will be bit gay
2018-04-15 05:13 Dreamwalker: or dongjing hada
2018-04-15 05:13 Dreamwalker: what's dongjing it's dongjin
2018-04-15 05:14 K a b i -: why is it dongjin related xd
2018-04-15 05:14 Dreamwalker: becuz it's really dongjin
2018-04-15 05:15 K a b i -: yea i might have to change to the one you;ve suggested
2018-04-15 05:15 K a b i -: even cheewee lost some of his accuracy there
2018-04-15 05:15 K a b i -: 99.6 to 99.3
2018-04-15 05:15 Dreamwalker: dongjin is gay ln lolicon unexpected shit otaku
2018-04-15 05:15 Dreamwalker: meme
2018-04-15 05:15 K a b i -: should i let him see this
2018-04-15 05:15 Dreamwalker: yes
2018-04-15 05:15 Dreamwalker: i would love it
2018-04-15 05:15 Dreamwalker: just screen capture it and send him
2018-04-15 05:15 K a b i -: LOL
2018-04-15 05:16 K a b i -: you got it
2018-04-15 05:16 Dreamwalker: 02:45:410 (165410|0,165488|0) - you certain with these jacks?
2018-04-15 05:18 K a b i -: yea it should be like that
2018-04-15 05:18 K a b i -: imo
2018-04-15 05:18 Dreamwalker: okay then that's all

2018-04-15 15:29 Dreamwalker: hello
2018-04-15 15:29 Unknown_player: hi
2018-04-15 15:29 Dreamwalker: do you have any concerns about my points?
2018-04-15 15:30 Unknown_player: hmm ok
2018-04-15 15:30 Unknown_player: usually i always need discussion for every people that ask me to change
2018-04-15 15:31 Unknown_player: kabi didn't tell me the reason tho. can you tell me again?
2018-04-15 15:31 Dreamwalker: so basically those SV structure is constant, yet teleports being overused
2018-04-15 15:31 Dreamwalker: i mean
2018-04-15 15:31 Dreamwalker: didn't kabi send you chatlog between me and him
2018-04-15 15:31 Unknown_player: no
2018-04-15 15:31 Unknown_player: he forget to save it
2018-04-15 15:32 Dreamwalker: ah okay
2018-04-15 15:34 Dreamwalker: should tell ya that i might be bit more spiky than usual while discussing about SVs
2018-04-15 15:34 Dreamwalker: so first, let's start with notes
2018-04-15 15:34 Dreamwalker: 00:08:848 (8848|0,8848|1,9082|3,9200|2,9200|3,9551|1,9668|2,9668|0,9727|1,9786|3,9844|2,9903|0,9961|1,10020|3,10078|2,10137|0,10137|1) - 
2018-04-15 15:34 Dreamwalker: here
2018-04-15 15:35 Dreamwalker: i know what you intended
2018-04-15 15:35 Dreamwalker: but still that's inconsistent
2018-04-15 15:35 Unknown_player: ok
2018-04-15 15:35 Unknown_player: i already fix this one
2018-04-15 15:35 Dreamwalker: okay
2018-04-15 15:35 Unknown_player: changed those stream to LN
2018-04-15 15:35 Dreamwalker: 00:12:481 - starting from here
2018-04-15 15:36 Dreamwalker: can't actually find what you intended
2018-04-15 15:36 Dreamwalker: so is it basically pitch
2018-04-15 15:37 Dreamwalker: or did you already repatterned this part?
2018-04-15 15:37 Unknown_player: a bit
2018-04-15 15:38 Unknown_player: so
2018-04-15 15:38 Unknown_player: do you think i need to nerf this part?
2018-04-15 15:38 Dreamwalker: did he send you screenshot
2018-04-15 15:38 Dreamwalker: of mine
2018-04-15 15:38 Unknown_player: alot
2018-04-15 15:38 Dreamwalker: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10714579
2018-04-15 15:38 Unknown_player: so that's your suggestion
2018-04-15 15:38 Dreamwalker: this one too?
2018-04-15 15:38 Dreamwalker: yeah
2018-04-15 15:39 Dreamwalker: don't have to be same
2018-04-15 15:40 Dreamwalker: problem here is
2018-04-15 15:41 Dreamwalker: patterns should be easier than 00:16:348 - here
2018-04-15 15:41 Dreamwalker: also 00:17:989 (17989|3,17989|2,18106|1,18106|2,18223|3,18223|0,18340|3,18340|1,18457|2,18457|1,18575|0,18575|2,18692|1,18692|0,18809|2,18809|0,18926|1,18926|2) - 
2018-04-15 15:41 Dreamwalker: can't understand your intentions
2018-04-15 15:41 Unknown_player: got it
2018-04-15 15:42 Dreamwalker: 00:19:278 - and here
2018-04-15 15:42 Dreamwalker: why is it so hard
2018-04-15 15:44 Dreamwalker: force other gd'ers and kabi to make this part even harder than your version OR nerf this part
2018-04-15 15:45 Dreamwalker: 00:42:832 (42832|2,42911|2,42989|2,43067|2) - not sure why you used 4 jacks here
2018-04-15 15:45 Dreamwalker: 00:46:465 (46465|2,46465|3) - and 00:46:582 (46582|2,46582|3) - should be on different line
2018-04-15 15:46 Dreamwalker: you need to focus on pitch here
2018-04-15 15:50 Dreamwalker: umm
2018-04-15 15:50 Dreamwalker: yeah again in case message didn't send, 00:45:996 - and SVs here are not a good idea
2018-04-15 15:50 Unknown_player: 00:19:278 - i removed the LN
2018-04-15 15:51 Dreamwalker: okay
2018-04-15 15:53 Dreamwalker: 00:34:043 - no teleport here
2018-04-15 15:53 Dreamwalker: it's kinda abused
2018-04-15 15:54 Unknown_player: someone ask me to put it while some of them say to remove it
2018-04-15 15:54 Unknown_player: so using dump instead?
2018-04-15 15:54 Dreamwalker: uh
2018-04-15 15:54 Dreamwalker: what do you mean dump
2018-04-15 15:54 Unknown_player: i mean like
2018-04-15 15:54 Dreamwalker: 1 note stream?
2018-04-15 15:55 Unknown_player: point 1: 1.5x and point 2: 0.5x
2018-04-15 15:55 Unknown_player: dump in sv
2018-04-15 15:55 Unknown_player: usual sv
2018-04-15 15:55 Dreamwalker: nah like
2018-04-15 15:55 Dreamwalker: just simply use like
2018-04-15 15:56 Dreamwalker: why i'm saying this is
2018-04-15 15:56 Dreamwalker: 00:34:043 (34043|2,34043|3,34629|0,34629|1) - here
2018-04-15 15:56 Dreamwalker: 00:36:973 (36973|3,36973|2) - and here
2018-04-15 15:57 Dreamwalker: it's the same sound but SVs are not
2018-04-15 15:57 Unknown_player: actually
2018-04-15 15:57 Unknown_player: i put the same pattern of sv
2018-04-15 15:57 Unknown_player: but idk what should do
2018-04-15 15:57 Dreamwalker: but the feeling is not
2018-04-15 15:57 Unknown_player: yeah ikr
2018-04-15 15:57 Dreamwalker: 00:36:973 - here
2018-04-15 15:58 Dreamwalker: put second timing a bit farther
2018-04-15 15:58 Unknown_player: yes
2018-04-15 15:59 Unknown_player: it's being weird :/
2018-04-15 16:00 Dreamwalker: still weird?
2018-04-15 16:00 Dreamwalker: i mean
2018-04-15 16:00 Dreamwalker: you know how those teleports work don't you
2018-04-15 16:01 Unknown_player: yeah
2018-04-15 16:01 Dreamwalker: 00:36:973 (36973|2,36973|3) - but for here
2018-04-15 16:01 Dreamwalker: we do not save enough length through section between the second SV and the third one which is 1.00
2018-04-15 16:02 Dreamwalker: so we need more time difference between the first and sec
2018-04-15 16:02 Dreamwalker: like 36:993
2018-04-15 16:02 Unknown_player: ok got it
2018-04-15 16:02 Dreamwalker: might be different for faster scrollspeed
2018-04-15 16:02 Unknown_player: decreasing 2nd sv value
2018-04-15 16:03 Dreamwalker: no i mean
2018-04-15 16:03 Dreamwalker: aah
2018-04-15 16:03 Dreamwalker: like 36973 10.0 36993 0.75
2018-04-15 16:03 Dreamwalker: between those two
2018-04-15 16:04 Dreamwalker: you've put that second one  on36983 which makes this SVs does not work as teleprot
2018-04-15 16:04 Dreamwalker: did you get the point
2018-04-15 16:05 Dreamwalker: the total length of 00:36:973 (36973|3) - this longnote should be longer than the height of hte screen
2018-04-15 16:06 Unknown_player: so what should i do?
2018-04-15 16:06 Dreamwalker: 36983->36993 okay?
2018-04-15 16:06 Dreamwalker: or delete former teleport
2018-04-15 16:08 Unknown_player: so
2018-04-15 16:08 Unknown_player: using 1/12 snap?
2018-04-15 16:08 Dreamwalker: no it's just probably
2018-04-15 16:08 Dreamwalker: unsnapped
2018-04-15 16:08 Unknown_player: idk but it's snapped with 1/12
2018-04-15 16:08 Unknown_player: oh you mean
2018-04-15 16:08 Dreamwalker: okay then
2018-04-15 16:08 Unknown_player: 10ms
2018-04-15 16:08 Dreamwalker: yeah
2018-04-15 16:09 Dreamwalker: about that
2018-04-15 16:09 Unknown_player: 00:39:786 -
2018-04-15 16:09 Unknown_player: there also?
2018-04-15 16:09 Dreamwalker: it's just random amount of number that can cover it
2018-04-15 16:09 Dreamwalker: yes
2018-04-15 16:09 Dreamwalker: actually
2018-04-15 16:09 Dreamwalker: for all teleports
2018-04-15 16:10 Dreamwalker: for scrollspeed under 21
2018-04-15 16:10 Dreamwalker: it does not work for teleport
2018-04-15 16:10 Dreamwalker: well i know we can't make teleport work for every scrollspeed
2018-04-15 16:11 Dreamwalker: but still it's better to cover more player pool
2018-04-15 16:12 Unknown_player: ok another things that you think to fix it?
2018-04-15 16:12 Dreamwalker: 02:49:394 -
2018-04-15 16:13 Dreamwalker: 02:59:706 - 
2018-04-15 16:13 Dreamwalker: and same for other parts
2018-04-15 16:13 Dreamwalker: teleport is overused
2018-04-15 16:13 Dreamwalker: 03:03:221 -here goes again
2018-04-15 16:13 Unknown_player: i forget to change this one ;-;
2018-04-15 16:13 Dreamwalker: 03:11:307 - also like this
2018-04-15 16:14 Dreamwalker: 03:44:706 (224706|2,224706|1,224823|0,224823|3,224940|0,224940|1,225057|3,225057|2,225174|3,225174|1,225291|2,225291|0,225409|1,225409|2) - 
2018-04-15 16:14 Dreamwalker: these jacks should be different with
2018-04-15 16:14 Dreamwalker: 03:43:651 (223651|2,223651|1,223768|3,223768|1,223885|0,223885|2,224002|2,224002|1,224120|3,224120|0,224237|1,224237|0,224354|3,224354|2,224471|3,224471|1,224588|0,224588|2) - 
2018-04-15 16:15 Dreamwalker: 03:59:783 (239783|1,239861|1,239939|1) - 
2018-04-15 16:16 Unknown_player: whoa wait
2018-04-15 16:16 Dreamwalker: 02:37:910 (157910|3,157910|0,158027|0,158027|3) - 
2018-04-15 16:16 Unknown_player: i still need to fix sv part that u said
2018-04-15 16:16 Dreamwalker: same sound with 02:38:262 (158262|0,158320|1,158379|2) - but why different
2018-04-15 16:17 Dreamwalker: 02:07:911 (127911|1) - stream starting from here
2018-04-15 16:17 Dreamwalker: focus more on pitch
2018-04-15 16:17 Dreamwalker: you might already fixed it tho
2018-04-15 16:17 Dreamwalker: 00:56:661 (56661|2,56895|0,56953|3,57012|2) - recheck ln length
2018-04-15 16:18 Dreamwalker: 00:58:770 (58770|2,59121|3,59239|3,59239|2) - this isn't that good to play
2018-04-15 16:18 Dreamwalker: also not good for emphasizing sounds
2018-04-15 16:18 Dreamwalker: although it might be constant with 00:58:770 (58770|0,58887|1,58887|0) - 
2018-04-15 16:18 Dreamwalker: idk for sure
2018-04-15 16:19 Dreamwalker: 01:06:739 (66739|3,66856|3,68262|1,68379|1) - be careful of unintentional jacks since it might lower the fun factors while playing
2018-04-15 16:19 Dreamwalker: 01:09:668 (69668|3,69727|2) - ctrl + j
2018-04-15 16:19 Dreamwalker: 01:26:661 -needs to be more dynamic
2018-04-15 16:19 Unknown_player: ok wait
2018-04-15 16:20 Dreamwalker: that's probably most of the parts i was concerned about
2018-04-15 16:20 Unknown_player: ok thx
2018-04-15 16:20 Unknown_player: but whoa
2018-04-15 16:21 Dreamwalker: next is SVs, 01:18:926 (78926|3) - do you really believe players can hit this note
2018-04-15 16:21 Dreamwalker: 01:18:692 - put values around 3.0x here
2018-04-15 16:22 Unknown_player: i can do it XD
2018-04-15 16:22 Unknown_player: but yeah
2018-04-15 16:22 Unknown_player: i changed it
2018-04-15 16:22 Dreamwalker: 01:34:395 - 01:34:746 - and etc. are the actuall points that SVs should be used
2018-04-15 16:22 Dreamwalker: the reason is you are the mapper of this map
2018-04-15 16:22 Dreamwalker: people won't play this map much as you did
2018-04-15 16:23 Unknown_player: yeah ikr
2018-04-15 16:23 Dreamwalker: 01:34:395 - anyway here put about 3.1 0.3 1.0 for |  (1)  |          (3)         |
2018-04-15 16:24 Dreamwalker: like 01:34:395 - 01:34:424 - 01:34:512 - 
2018-04-15 16:24 Dreamwalker: 01:36:036 (96036|3,96270|0,96270|2,96387|1,96387|0,96504|2,96504|1,96621|0,96621|2,96739|0,96739|1) - really bad at playing for 4* map
2018-04-15 16:24 Dreamwalker: 01:36:504 (96504|2,96621|2) - especially this
2018-04-15 16:25 Dreamwalker: 01:42:950 - there are some bell sounds that might be focused on
2018-04-15 16:25 Dreamwalker: 01:52:207 - here for same around 3.0x
2018-04-15 16:26 Dreamwalker: 01:58:301 - this one is same but kinda fits with the sound
2018-04-15 16:27 Dreamwalker: what makes the difference is
2018-04-15 16:27 Dreamwalker: pattern itself is constant through01:57:950 - and01:58:926 - 
2018-04-15 16:27 Dreamwalker: so it's basically easier for players notice the patterns
2018-04-15 16:27 Dreamwalker: 02:11:661 - these are not also good imo
2018-04-15 16:28 Dreamwalker: really
2018-04-15 16:28 Dreamwalker: if it's like for loved i won't mind but
2018-04-15 16:29 Dreamwalker: it feels like you're overusing those style
2018-04-15 16:29 Dreamwalker: 02:13:067 - also not sure about this teleport
2018-04-15 16:30 Dreamwalker: 02:55:721 (175721|0,175780|1,175839|2,175897|3,175956|0,176014|1,176073|2,176132|3,176190|0,176249|1,176307|2,176366|3) - 
2018-04-15 16:30 Dreamwalker: wrong snapping
2018-04-15 16:30 Dreamwalker: 02:57:909 (177909|1,177987|2,178065|3,178153|2,178182|0,178241|1,178300|3,178300|2) - also wrong snapping
2018-04-15 16:31 Unknown_player: ok ok wait
2018-04-15 16:31 Dreamwalker: 03:04:393 (184393|3,184393|2,184510|1,184628|2,184628|0,184745|3,184862|0,184862|1,184979|2,185096|3,185096|0,185214|1,185331|3,185331|2,185448|1,185565|3,185565|0,185682|2,185800|0,185800|1,185917|2,186034|3,186034|1,186151|0,186268|3,186268|2,186385|1,186503|2,186503|0,186620|3,186737|0,186737|1,186854|2,186971|3,186971|0) - 
2018-04-15 16:31 Dreamwalker: simply making jumptrilly patterns are not dynamic
2018-04-15 16:31 Dreamwalker: not by saying pp chart is good or bad tho
2018-04-15 16:32 Dreamwalker: 03:11:307 - making SVs stronger is not the optimal solution for making a good SV char
2018-04-15 16:32 Dreamwalker: *chart
2018-04-15 16:32 Dreamwalker: make it bit smoother
2018-04-15 16:32 Unknown_player: by the way
2018-04-15 16:32 Unknown_player: 02:57:909 (177909|1,177987|2,178065|3,178153|2,178182|0,178241|1,178300|3,178300|2) -  wrong snapping?
2018-04-15 16:33 Dreamwalker: 02:58:241 (178241|1) - what is this for?
2018-04-15 16:33 Dreamwalker: piano or drum
2018-04-15 16:33 Dreamwalker: that piano starts somewhere around 02:58:026 - 
2018-04-15 16:34 Unknown_player: starts form 02:58:065 (178065|3) - i layer to violin
2018-04-15 16:34 Unknown_player: i mean here 02:58:182 (178182|0) -
2018-04-15 16:34 Dreamwalker: then 02:58:153 (178153|2) - what's this
2018-04-15 16:35 Dreamwalker: okay then
2018-04-15 16:35 Unknown_player: some "drum" voice
2018-04-15 16:35 Dreamwalker: 03:31:815 - should definitely delete this teleport
2018-04-15 16:35 Dreamwalker: doesn't fit with the sound
2018-04-15 16:35 Unknown_player: by the way.
2018-04-15 16:35 Unknown_player: what should i do with 03:04:393 (184393|3,184393|2,184510|1,184628|2,184628|0,184745|3,184862|0,184862|1,184979|2,185096|3,185096|0,185214|1,185331|3,185331|2,185448|1,185565|3,185565|0,185682|2,185800|0,185800|1,185917|2,186034|3,186034|1,186151|0,186268|3,186268|2,186385|1,186503|2,186503|0,186620|3,186737|0,186737|1,186854|2,186971|3,186971|0) -
2018-04-15 16:35 Unknown_player: ?
2018-04-15 16:35 Dreamwalker: really quiet through 03:31:815 - to03:32:050 - 
2018-04-15 16:36 Dreamwalker: idk
2018-04-15 16:36 Dreamwalker: make some jacks
2018-04-15 16:36 Dreamwalker: or at least follow some pitch
2018-04-15 16:36 Dreamwalker: 03:04:628 - 03:04:745 - same pitch
2018-04-15 16:36 Dreamwalker: or put some short LNs
2018-04-15 16:36 Dreamwalker: for violin? sound
2018-04-15 16:36 Unknown_player: okay
2018-04-15 16:37 Dreamwalker: for me i would just focus on drum sounds
2018-04-15 16:38 Dreamwalker: 03:06:268 (186268|3,186268|2,186385|1,186503|0,186503|2,186620|3,186737|1,186737|0) - also this is quite inconsistent with
2018-04-15 16:38 Dreamwalker: 00:44:707 (44707|3,44825|1,44825|0,44942|0,44942|2,45059|2,45059|1,45176|1,45176|3,45293|3,45293|2) - points like here
2018-04-15 16:39 Dreamwalker: more sound with less notes
2018-04-15 16:39 Dreamwalker: 03:35:331 - here i would use something like
2018-04-15 16:40 Dreamwalker: 03:35:331 - 0.3 03:35:448 - 0.5 03:35:506 - 1.1 03:35:536 - 2.3
2018-04-15 16:40 Dreamwalker: not calculated to 1.00x so need to change some valude
2018-04-15 16:40 Dreamwalker: values
2018-04-15 16:41 Dreamwalker: 03:59:002 - 
2018-04-15 16:41 Dreamwalker: use a bit more slower SV
2018-04-15 16:41 Dreamwalker: about 0.1x more
2018-04-15 16:41 Dreamwalker: okay that's all i guess