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Hatsuki Yura - The Secret Garden

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Mayzel
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2013年7月26日 at 18:50:05

Artist: Hatsuki Yura
Title: The Secret Garden
Tags: hameln koisuru marionette karenying kotone
BPM: 168
Filesize: 6929kb
Play Time: 02:57
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.4 stars, 147 notes)
  2. Hard (4.86 stars, 472 notes)
  3. Insane (5 stars, 658 notes)
  4. Karen (5 stars, 592 notes)
  5. Normal (3.99 stars, 243 notes)
Download: Hatsuki Yura - The Secret Garden
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Hatsuki Yura <3

Karen is by Kotone (a.k.a. karenying)

Special thanks : terametis Fuuko

*plz redownload if you got this map before Mar 3, 2013
[CSGA]Ar3sgice
nice map ^^

fight~
Topic Starter
Mayzel

[CSGA]Ar3sgice wrote:

nice map ^^

fight~
thanks : )
Guy
hi~ #mod reqからです ;)

少しだけ気になった点を~


Song setup の Colors の Combo4が3と被っているので、
他の色に変えたほうがいいかもしれません(これはデフォルトの状態なので)



BGsize は1024x768 or 800x600 にしましょう。
↓よかったら使ってください。

Hit soundが使われていないので、どんどん入れてみてください。

譜面の方は良いと思いました :)
他の難易度も作ってみて 頑張ってください!
star~!
Topic Starter
Mayzel

Guy wrote:

hi~ #mod reqからです ;)
modありがとうございます!背景まで用意していただいてすみませんw
hitsound難しいですけど頑張ってみます... 他の難易度もどう音とろうか悩んでるとこですー
kioukiou
Timing is a bit early to me,try +10 ms to all offset.

And don't forget resnap all notes.

Finish 期待. :)
Topic Starter
Mayzel

kioukiou wrote:

Timing is a bit early to me,try +10 ms to all offset.

And don't forget resnap all notes.

Finish 期待. :)
Thank you for mod, kioukiou! I love your maps :)
orsola
nice map :)

mp3が最後切られていて無音になるのが気になりました。
フェードアウトにしたらどうでしょうか?
↓よかったらつかってください。 PASS1234

http://www1.axfc.net/uploader/Ne/so/124249
Topic Starter
Mayzel

orsola wrote:

nice map :)

mp3が最後切られていて無音になるのが気になりました。
フェードアウトにしたらどうでしょうか?
確かに・・・。ぶつぎりで違和感ありますね。
mp3差し替えました、わざわざありがとうございました!
kioukiou
Just a reminder :
If you changed the mp3 file,you have to change offset.
I got the offset is 635(+26) ms.
Don't forget resnap all notes and check all green lines.
And don't kds to this post, thanks. :)
Topic Starter
Mayzel

kioukiou wrote:

Just a reminder :
If you changed the mp3 file,you have to change offset.
I got the offset is 635(+26) ms.
Don't forget resnap all notes and check all green lines.
And don't kds to this post, thanks. :)
Thank you, kioukiou! :)
OK. I will change the offset.
orsola
[Insane]
00:21:527 (2) - volume 50%
00:51:706 (3) - add finish
00:52:063 (3) - soft
00:55:456 (7) - soft
01:06:170 (8) - delete clap
01:20:724 (3) - delete finish
01:20:992 (3) - add clap
01:21:170 (4) - soft
01:21:349 (4) - delete finish
01:21:527 (4) - delete clap
01:53:313 (7) - soft
01:53:849 (1) - delete finish
01:59:027 (6) - soft
01:59:563 (7) - delete finish
02:04:742 (3) - soft
02:05:277 (4) - delete clap
02:19:206 (11) - soft
02:25:992 (5) - finish
02:44:742 (1) - add finish
02:45:813 (5) - add whistle
02:56:706 (1) - delete clap and volume 70%
02:57:420 (3) - delete clap
02:57:777 (7) - soft
Topic Starter
Mayzel

orsola wrote:

[Insane]
00:21:527 (2) - volume 50% ok
00:51:706 (3) - add finish ok
00:52:063 (3) - soft ok
00:55:456 (7) - soft ok
01:06:170 (8) - delete clap ok
01:20:724 (3) - delete finish ok
01:20:992 (3) - add clap ok
01:21:170 (4) - soft ok
01:21:349 (4) - delete finish ok
01:21:527 (4) - delete clap ok
01:53:313 (7) - soft ok
01:53:849 (1) - delete finish ok
01:59:027 (6) - soft ok
01:59:563 (7) - delete finish ok
02:04:742 (3) - soft ok
02:05:277 (4) - delete clap ok
02:19:206 (11) - soft ok
02:25:992 (5) - finish ok
02:44:742 (1) - add finish ok
02:45:813 (5) - add whistle ok
02:56:706 (1) - delete clap and volume 70% ok
02:57:420 (3) - delete clap ok
02:57:777 (7) - soft ok
Many thanks for your mod! :)
hamuri
Mod requestでお見かけしたので、
あまり頼りにならないですが、少しだけMODさせていただきます。

ほとんどが提案になっていますので、よろしくお願いします。
Normal
Good!

Hard
00:28:313 circle追加、あるいは手前のスライダーを一つ伸ばす
00:35:456 circle追加
01:51:170 circle追加
02:02:599 circle追加

Insane
00:52:216 不要な緑線?
00:55:519 同上
01:13:555 同上
01:19:269 同上
01:24:983 同上
01:25:125 同上
01:39:269 同上

サビの後半にかけて一部分Hitsoundに凝ってらっしゃいますが、
あまりに一部分すぎるので、サビの最後まで凝ってみるのも悪くない気がしました。


全体的に素晴らしい出来だと思います。がんばってください。
Topic Starter
Mayzel

hamuri wrote:

Hard
00:28:313 circle追加、あるいは手前のスライダーを一つ伸ばす
00:35:456 circle追加
01:51:170 circle追加

結構悩んでたとこでした。アレンジして修正してみましたがどうでしょう?


02:02:599 circle追加 ok

Insane
00:52:216 不要な緑線? fixed
00:55:519 同上 fixed
01:13:555 同上 fixed
01:19:269 同上 fixed
01:24:983 同上 timeずれかな?何もなかったw
01:25:125 同上 おなじく!
01:39:269 同上 ここブレイクの真っ最中です!!

ただ、付近に不要な緑線あったので削除しておきました。


サビの後半にかけて一部分Hitsoundに凝ってらっしゃいますが、
あまりに一部分すぎるので、サビの最後まで凝ってみるのも悪くない気がしました。

なかなかサウンドはむずかしいですねー、凝って作ったらmodでdeleteされまくってしまった…
じっくり悩んでみます。

全体的に素晴らしい出来だと思います。がんばってください。

ありがとうございます!お互い頑張りましょう。
Thanks a lot, hamuri!
Colin Hou
from #modreq

[Insane]:
  1. 00:23:492 ~ 01:05:992 (T) - whistles are overused in these part, making the pace too hurried.
  2. 01:09:206 ~ 01:12:063(T) - cancel the whistles, listen to the drums and place some claps there.
  3. 01:46:349 ~ 02:28:849 (T) - too much whistles
  4. 02:32:063 ~ 02:34:563 (T) - same as above
  5. copy & paste is not a good way of mapping in my eye :'(
[Hard]:
  1. 00:08:492 (5,6,7) - rhythm here is 3/4, that means notes at 00:08:492 00:08:759 00:09:027.
  2. 00:09:920 (2,3) - ^
  3. 02:20:634 (1,2,3) - jump here doesn't fit well
  4. 02:25:456 (6,7,1) - spacing
  5. more hitsounds for non-KIAI parts plz.
[Normal]:
  1. 00:02:063 (1,2) - spacing here it too much as a Normal diff
  2. 00:06:349 (1,2,3) - better than ^, but still worry about it.
  3. 01:05:992 (4,1) - no huge jump in Normal plz.
  4. hitsounds for non-KIAI parts are too little.
still need a lot of work on hitsounds, other things are much better. good luck
Topic Starter
Mayzel

Colin Hou wrote:

[Insane]:
  1. 00:23:492 ~ 01:05:992 (T) - whistles are overused in these part, making the pace too hurried. fixed
  2. 01:09:206 ~ 01:12:063(T) - cancel the whistles, listen to the drums and place some claps there. fixed
  3. 01:46:349 ~ 02:28:849 (T) - too much whistles fixed
  4. 02:32:063 ~ 02:34:563 (T) - same as above fixed
  5. copy & paste is not a good way of mapping in my eye :'( ok... I'll not copypaste from now on. I'm sorry for my noob mapping.
[Hard]:
  1. 00:08:492 (5,6,7) - rhythm here is 3/4, that means notes at 00:08:492 00:08:759 00:09:027. fixed
  2. 00:09:920 (2,3) - ^ fixed
  3. 02:20:634 (1,2,3) - jump here doesn't fit well fixed
  4. 02:25:456 (6,7,1) - spacing fixed
  5. more hitsounds for non-KIAI parts plz. added hitsounds
[Normal]:
  1. 00:02:063 (1,2) - spacing here it too much as a Normal diff fixed
  2. 00:06:349 (1,2,3) - better than ^, but still worry about it. fixed
  3. 01:05:992 (4,1) - no huge jump in Normal plz. fixed
  4. hitsounds for non-KIAI parts are too little. added hitsounds
Many thanks for your mod! I'm very glad :) I would appreciate it if you would mod my map again.
Topic Starter
Mayzel
Maybe I should refix 01:09:206 ~ 01:12:063 and 02:32:063 ~ 02:34:563 (Insane) ... noob sound.
ShoruRi
hi~ from #modreqs

Hard
・02:56:527~02:57:777のspinnerを02:56:527~02:59:206まで伸ばしてみてわ!

Insane
HR+1

配置,音取りはgood :)
楽しめました XD
Topic Starter
Mayzel

DericeRt wrote:

hi~ from #modreqs

Hard
・02:56:527~02:57:777のspinnerを02:56:527~02:59:206まで伸ばしてみてわ! fixed

Insane
HR+1 fixed

配置,音取りはgood :)
楽しめました XD

ありがとうございます!
Topic Starter
Mayzel

ligy wrote:

Maybe I should refix 01:09:206 ~ 01:12:063 and 02:32:063 ~ 02:34:563 (Insane) ... noob sound.
Refixed. I did my best..
Topic Starter
Mayzel
Updated [Insane]
Topic Starter
Mayzel
I'll remake [Hard]
Topic Starter
Mayzel
Now I'm remaking [Hard]
Fuuko
Why is this on graveyard? ;w;
Topic Starter
Mayzel
もう一回がんばっちゃう?
Fuuko
がんばれ、がんばれ、がんばれ~!
Topic Starter
Mayzel
"Hard" finished :)
Topic Starter
Mayzel
thank you star!!!
Realazy
Hi, mod requested by Fuuko in #modreqs.

[General]

Normal's star rating is too high, either lower it or make an easy.
The difficulty gap between Normal and Hard is way too large, either rename Hard to Insane, Insane to Extra and make another hard, or seriously lower Hard's difficulty.
Ask a BAT to make the title/artist appear at 00:12:063 - ?
Kiai is inconsistent between difficulties (Hard has different kiai times)

[Normal]

00:00:634 - 00:09:206 - You could add some curved sliders :\
00:07:063 (2) - Move it so it doesn't overlap with (1). (Really light overlap though, it's up to you if you want to change it or not.)
00:25:277 (3) - New combo?
00:30:992 (3) - ^
00:36:706 (3) - ^
00:48:492 (4) - ^
00:49:206 (1) - Remove new combo here if you apply my new combo suggestion on 00:48:492 (4) -.
00:59:920 (3) - New combo?
01:21:884 (3) - Move it 1/2 beat backward.
01:48:134 (3) - New combo again?
01:53:849 (3) - ^
01:59:563 (3) - ^
02:04:920 (3) - ^
02:06:349 (5) - ^
02:07:777 (1) - Remove new combo here if you apply my new combo suggestion on 02:06:349 (5) -.
02:11:349 (4) - New combo again?
02:12:063 (1) - Remove new combo here if you apply my new combo suggestion on 02:11:349 (4) -.
02:22:777 (3) - NC (so many new combos >.>)
02:27:063 (2) - Move it so it doesn't overlap with the previous slider.
02:28:492 (4) - ^

[Hard]

This difficulty plays like an Insane.

00:03:134 (5,1) - Reduce the spacing between them?
00:10:634 (6) - Remove the whistle on slider's body
00:26:349 (5) - New combo
00:29:027 (7) - ^
00:29:206 (1) - If you apply the previous new combo suggestion, remove new combo here.
00:30:992 (5) - New combo
00:47:777 (5,6,7) - Ugly overlaps :\
00:57:599 - Add a note?
01:04:920 (5) - New combo?
01:19:206 (6) - ^
01:21:884 (6) - ^
01:27:063 (4) - ^
01:27:777 (7) - ^
01:29:920 (4) - ^
01:58:492 (4) - ^
02:25:099 (5) - ^
02:44:563 (7) - ^
02:44:742 (1) - If you apply the previous new combo suggestion, remove new combo here.

[Insane]

Overall spacing is too large.
Basically the same new combos issues as Hard.

00:11:706 (1,2,3,4) - Having these notes in normal hitsound set sounds better.
01:21:885 (1) - Ugly overlap with (4)
Topic Starter
Mayzel

Real wrote:

Hi, mod requested by Fuuko in #modreqs.

[General]

Normal's star rating is too high, either lower it or make an easy.
I'll make an easy.

The difficulty gap between Normal and Hard is way too large, either rename Hard to Insane, Insane to Extra and make another hard, or seriously lower Hard's difficulty.
I lowered Hard's difficulty a little, reduced the number of quick beating.
Its arrangement or spacing is proper and it is not difficult as an Insane, I think.


Ask a BAT to make the title/artist appear at 00:12:063 - ?
Kiai is inconsistent between difficulties (Hard has different kiai times)
fixed.
[Normal]

00:00:634 - 00:09:206 - You could add some curved sliders :\fixed.
00:07:063 (2) - Move it so it doesn't overlap with (1). (Really light overlap though, it's up to you if you want to change it or not.)fixed.
00:25:277 (3) - New combo?fixed.
00:30:992 (3) - ^fixed.
00:36:706 (3) - ^fixed.
00:48:492 (4) - ^umm..
00:49:206 (1) - Remove new combo here if you apply my new combo suggestion on 00:48:492 (4) -.
00:59:920 (3) - New combo?fixed.
01:21:884 (3) - Move it 1/2 beat backward.fixed.
01:48:134 (3) - New combo again?fixed.
01:53:849 (3) - ^fixed.
01:59:563 (3) - ^fixed.
02:04:920 (3) - ^fixed.
02:06:349 (5) - ^fixed.
02:07:777 (1) - Remove new combo here if you apply my new combo suggestion on 02:06:349 (5) -.fixed.
02:11:349 (4) - New combo again?fixed.
02:12:063 (1) - Remove new combo here if you apply my new combo suggestion on 02:11:349 (4) -.fixed.
02:22:777 (3) - NC (so many new combos >.>)fixed.
02:27:063 (2) - Move it so it doesn't overlap with the previous slider.fixed.
02:28:492 (4) - ^fixed.

[Hard]

This difficulty plays like an Insane.

00:03:134 (5,1) - Reduce the spacing between them?fixed.
00:10:634 (6) - Remove the whistle on slider's bodyfixed.
00:26:349 (5) - New combofixed.
00:29:027 (7) - ^fixed.
00:29:206 (1) - If you apply the previous new combo suggestion, remove new combo here.fixed.
00:30:992 (5) - New combofixed.
00:47:777 (5,6,7) - Ugly overlaps :\fixed.
00:57:599 - Add a note?fixed.
01:04:920 (5) - New combo?fixed.
01:19:206 (6) - ^fixed.
01:21:884 (6) - ^fixed.
01:27:063 (4) - ^fixed.
01:27:777 (7) - ^fixed.
01:29:920 (4) - ^fixed.
01:58:492 (4) - ^umm..
02:25:099 (5) - ^umm..
02:44:563 (7) - ^umm..
02:44:742 (1) - If you apply the previous new combo suggestion, remove new combo here.

There are some NCs from a view of lyric.

[Insane]

Overall spacing is too large.

I think its spacing is proper because it doesn't have ramdom or large jumps, and have regular spacing.
The way I see it, regular spacing is not difficult even if it's large.


Basically the same new combos issues as Hard.
fixed.

00:11:706 (1,2,3,4) - Having these notes in normal hitsound set sounds better.
fixed.

01:21:885 (1) - Ugly overlap with (4)
fixed.

Many thanks for your mod, Real! :)
Your mod is so helpful for improvement!!
And it's difficult for me to set NC :(
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