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Doodley

Blue Dragon wrote:

~General~
  1. The "Letterbox in Breaks" option is inconsistent between difficulties. Easy and Normal have it while Insane doesn't. Remove it for all difficulties. Oh whoops. We're dwindling down on the "stupid shit David missed" list!
  2. Kiai times are also inconsistent - Use Insane's Kiai Times since they seem to start on the downbeat since it's the right thing. Oh god dammit, yeah, that's another oversight. FFFF. I need a checklist. Thank you.
[Easy]
  1. 00:40:560 (T) - Unsnapped timing section. Oh, whoops. Thought I fixed these...All done.
  2. 00:51:989 (T) - Unsnapped timing section.
  3. 01:49:057 (T) - Unsnapped timing section.
  4. 02:00:485 (T) - Unsnapped timing section.
  5. 02:11:914 (T) - Unsnapped timing section. You know, you think if one were to improve AIMod, it should catch these.
  6. 00:39:467 (1) - Start this spinner 1/2 earlier - right now it's a bit too short for an Easy difficulty. Done.
  7. 01:08:934 (5) - I would recommend starting this 1/2 later and then making it end 1/2 earlier (on the white tick). Right now it just seems a bit too hard for the easiest difficulty in the mapset. Okay, done.
  8. 01:24:113 (2) - Remove finish and add a whistle? It sounds a bit better for me, since it fits with the vocals. Yeah, definitely.
  9. 01:36:613 (1) - Same as 00:39:467. Okay, done.
  10. 01:40:541 (5) - Same as 01:08:934. Done.
  11. 01:43:220 (5) - ^ Done.
  12. 01:46:256 (6) - ^ Done.
  13. 01:51:256 (3,4) - This should be okay since it's the last kiai part, so it's fine for me. Are you referring to the possible difficulty? Because yeah, I kinda wanna keep that since I've always found the last chorus should be the hardest and craziest.
  14. 01:56:970 (4) - Remove the whistle? It sounds a bit awkward right now.. Done.
  • Overall Rating: 9.5/10 ~ Excellent difficulty, really. It's really hard to find an Easy difficulty that doesn't get boring at any moment. Great map. /bows. I credit myself for making fun Easy difficulties and hate it when folks make really boring Easy difficulties. Some people find it hard, but I bet those are the people who only do straight repeat sliders.
[Normal]


  • Approach Rate +2, please. Right now it feels way too slow for the SV and the flow. Okay, done.
  1. 00:40:560 (T) - Unsnapped timing section. You know what's the strangest thing? I made myself double check these unsnapped sections. I think I didn't save. Whoops.
  2. 00:51:989 (T) - Unsnapped timing section.
  3. 01:49:057 (T) - Unsnapped timing section.
  4. 02:00:485 (T) - Unsnapped timing section.
  5. 02:11:914 (T) - Unsnapped timing section.
  6. 00:09:126 (5,1) - Add new combo at (5) then remove it from (1). Oh, that is better.
  7. 00:38:395 (3) - Remove finish? I don't hear anything in the song that sound like a finish in this moment... Yeah, you're right. Done.
  8. 01:17:684 (5,1) - Add new combo at (5) then remove it from (1). Okay.
  9. 01:19:827 (3,4) - This spacing feels really weird... I was being stupid and was trying to squeeze in a pattern. I moved it around and made a pattern with it now!
  10. 01:39:470 (2) - I'd remove the finish from here and add a whistle, sounds better in my opinion. Done. Also, I removed the whistle that come on the slider afterwards because it sounded awkward and didn't fit with the song.
  11. 01:48:399 (1) - Please do a Ctrl+R on this note. It will fix spacing and be much better. Oh, pbbthh. Didn't really think of it ending on one side or the other. Fixed.
  • Overall Rating: 9.4/10 ~ Apart from the slow AR and some weirdly-placed combos, I sincerely loved this difficulty, really fun to play. Nice job!
My Hard diff was so similar to this except inconsistent in difficulty, so I'm glad Mashley is on board making a guest difficulty.

[Insane]


  • OD -1? OD8 seems a bit too harsh. Sometimes it is, yeah. Done.
  1. 00:09:126 (8,1) - Add new combo at (8) then remove it from (1). Done.
  2. 00:30:538 (5) - Ctrl+R on this note? The spacing seems a bit weird from (4,5)... Okay.
  3. 00:33:395 (5) - ^ Done.
  4. 00:40:542 (1) - Add a finish at the start of this slider? You can hear it in the song. Oh, I must've forgot that.
  5. 00:41:613 (3) - Add a clap or a whistle here? Would sound less empty. You know, I use a LOT of hitsounds in this entire map, and I think they all fit very nicely.
  6. 00:43:042 (7) - Add a whistle here? Would work fine with (8)'s clap. Additionally, I hate people who don't like the Whistle hitsound. Yeah, it doesn't fit some maps, but I love the sound of it.
  7. 01:07:684 (1,2,3) - This spacing feels pretty weird.. I guess I was trying to cheat a pattern here...Also, moving it covered up the combo above, of which I moved accordingly. :D
  8. 01:17:684 (6,1) - Add new combo at (6) then remove (1)'s one? Done.
  9. 01:23:399 (3) - Remove the finish from here to be consistent with 01:20:541 (8)? Done.
  • Overall Rating: 9.6/10 ~ Simply amazing difficulty. It was really fun to mod this and also play it, I hope it gets ranked soon. I put a lot of love into this difficulty! This entire beatmap's almost like my baby. Hehe. Also, if you could, do support it! Apparently, nobody really likes to Mod4Mod and getting my map into queues is hard. :(

    Also, amazing storyboard. Wish you best of luck.
Thank you, fantastic mod, BD!
DerekMcD
Hello. M4M here.

~Easy~

00:23:412 (6) - Move the last point to x:328 y:108. And after you're done with this, fix the spacing like you had on.
00:37:681 (3) - I like this better if you move this to x: 124 y:326.
00:39:110 (4) - Move this to x:389 y:325.
01:06:256 (7) - Move the first point to x:197 y:307. And after you're done with this, fix the spacing like you had on.

~Normal~

01:40:363 (4) - Move this second point one grid left.

That's the best I can do.
Thank you and good luck.
Topic Starter
Doodley

kokoroanime wrote:

Hello. M4M here.

~Easy~

00:23:412 (6) - Move the last point to x:328 y:108. And after you're done with this, fix the spacing like you had on. No? This slider is symmetrical and the spacing is fine...
00:37:681 (3) - I like this better if you move this to x: 124 y:326.Oh, okay, done.
00:39:110 (4) - Move this to x:389 y:325. Done.
01:06:256 (7) - Move the first point to x:197 y:307. And after you're done with this, fix the spacing like you had on. It's fine.

~Normal~

01:40:363 (4) - Move this second point one grid left. Oh, thank you.

That's the best I can do.
Thank you and good luck.
Okay, thank you!
Shohei Ohtani
That awkward moment when you're clearing your mod queue and don't notice the mod4mod posts until the 2nd page.

ALLRIGHT SO MOD4MOD LET'S GO.

Insane:
00:46:256 (4) - too many repeats ;~;.
01:08:934 (4) - Not symmetrical >:3
01:11:970 (7) - Too many repeats D:

Normal:
00:10:376 (2) - Flip horizontally~.

Easy:
01:17:684 (7) - Probably bring down the last sliderpoint~.
01:46:256 (6) - not moe! D:

Here, have a star. The storyboard is moe~.
Topic Starter
Doodley

CDFA wrote:

That awkward moment when you're clearing your mod queue and don't notice the mod4mod posts until the 2nd page.

ALLRIGHT SO MOD4MOD LET'S GO.

Insane:
00:46:256 (4) - too many repeats ;~;. I've always loved how this sounded (probably because it goes with "down, down down" so DEAL W/ IT B)
01:08:934 (4) - Not symmetrical >:3 SHIT D: okay fixed
01:11:970 (7) - Too many repeats D: Nope. B) Seriously though, I don't see any reason to change it. I'm avoiding creating stupidass long slider with a cooler sounding and much more satisfying repeat that syncs with the beat, so nope.

Normal:
00:10:376 (2) - Flip horizontally~. Creates too big of a jump with the next slider. :\

Easy:
01:17:684 (7) - Probably bring down the last sliderpoint~. Done.
01:46:256 (6) - not moe! D: Eugh, that is kinda ugly...Fixed.

Here, have a star. The storyboard is moe~.
Everyone loves the storyboard. :3

Thank you!
Roddie
Hello.

Easy
  1. 01:27:684- It seems that you put a new combo here but when I checked 00:30:538, you didn't put a new combo there... So, maybe you should remove new combo from 01:27:684 just to keep things consistent?
  2. 01:30:541-^Pretty much the same thing. Just look at 00:33:395 to see that there isn't a new combo there. So, remove new combo from 01:30:541.
Normal
  1. This Normal is a bit difficult because of the spacing. A distance spacing of 1.0x might be better. Experiment with it and see for yourself.
  2. 00:07:519 (1, 2)-From my standpoint, it's probably best to delete those notes and create a slider starting from 00:07:519 to 00:07:876
  3. 00:38:038 (2)-Add a clap here?
Insane
  1. 0036:252-It might be best to remove new combo from here.
  2. 00:37:681-Put a new combo here~
  3. 00:38:395-Remove new combo from here. (:
  4. 01:34:113-^
  5. 01:34:827-It's a good idea to put a new combo here.
  6. 01:45:541 (5, 6)-I don't like how the 5th slider is overlapping the border of slider 6... I think rotating this slider by 45 degrees is best. If you don't know how to rotate an object, I'll tell you. Highlight slider 6, go edit, then click "Rotate by..." and from there you can change the angle to 45 degrees. After you've gone through that, use the distance snap to fix the rest of the notes.
And that's it. If you have any questions about my mod, reply back to me.

Good luck, man!
Topic Starter
Doodley

Roddie wrote:

Hello.

Easy
  1. 01:27:684- It seems that you put a new combo here but when I checked 00:30:538, you didn't put a new combo there... So, maybe you should remove new combo from 01:27:684 just to keep things consistent? Oh whoops. No, there's supposed to be a new combo every two notes.
  2. 01:30:541-^Pretty much the same thing. Just look at 00:33:395 to see that there isn't a new combo there. So, remove new combo from 01:30:541.
Normal
  1. This Normal is a bit difficult because of the spacing. A distance spacing of 1.0x might be better. Experiment with it and see for yourself. Hmm. That's two for Normal being too hard. I'll look into it some. Reducing the spacing to 1.0x doesn't really affect my patterns, so it will probably work.
  2. 00:07:519 (1, 2)-From my standpoint, it's probably best to delete those notes and create a slider starting from 00:07:519 to 00:07:876
    I think I had a slider instead of this for a while but replaced it with two notes in favor of this difficulty not being Billy May's Big City Slider Station. I do see the difficulty in having these notes falling on red ticks, so I'll change it.
  3. 00:38:038 (2)-Add a clap here? Done.
Insane
  1. 0036:252-It might be best to remove new combo from here. Okay.
  2. 00:37:681-Put a new combo here~ Done.
  3. 00:38:395-Remove new combo from here. (: Also done.
  4. 01:34:113-^
  5. 01:34:827-It's a good idea to put a new combo here. Did both.
  6. 01:45:541 (5, 6)-I don't like how the 5th slider is overlapping the border of slider 6... I think rotating this slider by 45 degrees is best. If you don't know how to rotate an object, I'll tell you. Highlight slider 6, go edit, then click "Rotate by..." and from there you can change the angle to 45 degrees. After you've gone through that, use the distance snap to fix the rest of the notes. While I do appreciate you going out of the way to do this, especially as an MAT, you really didn't have to explain all of this. If I made an entire storyboard, and this beatmap being patternedoriented, why would I not know how to rotate a combo? Anyway, I didn't do this because it's hardly overlapping at all and hasn't been pointed out whatsoever. If I receive comments about it in the future, I'll change it.
And that's it. If you have any questions about my mod, reply back to me.

Good luck, man!
Thank you!
Katsuri
[General]
  1. Nice SB, but I have some problems here:

    1. Images you have in folder without use:
      ina.png
      intro.png
      intro2.png
      lyrics\mound.png
      lyrics\out.png
      moon.png
      numbered.png
      piledup.png
      space.png
      this.png
      to one.png
      town.png

      Images you have in folder without code:
      cant.png
      tmbg.png

      ----------------------------------------------------------------
      Remove this images and Full-Submit
      ----------------------------------------------------------------

      Things you have in-code but it's not on your folder:
      i've.png
      kaia.png
      lyrics\a.png
      they.png

      ----------------------------------------------------------------
      Remove it from your code
      ----------------------------------------------------------------
Easy
  1. Here I suggest you to set the tick rate to 2, because this way you can hear the constant 1/2 rhythm on slider ticks. It's very recommended by Great mappers like RJ, SG, Larto, DC, NS and others.
  2. 01:16:256 (3) - Space it just to avoid the ugly overlapiness.
  3. 01:17:684 (7,1,2,3) - Such a weird pattern with bad overlaps and bad flow. I suggest you to forget the symmetry in this case and make it something like this.
Overral Grade: 8.7

Normal
  1. Same as Easy about Tick rate.
  2. I can't say much for you here, a lot of weird overlaps and bad flowing, try to improve it..
Overall Grade: 5.6

Hard
  1. Tick rate 2....
  2. 00:17:697 (1) - Space it correctly to avoid the weird overlapiness.
  3. 00:19:483 (3,4,5,6) - Make it something like this would be better for visualize the pattern and make it more playable. It's visual appealing and follows drums too.
  4. 00:48:399 (8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I don't think notenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotes sections are good, try to use some sliders to make it more playable. The way it is now is really boring.
  5. 01:11:970 (7) - Boring to play imo. All I can say about slider repeats is to avoid more than two.
    01:57:684 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Same as 00:48:399 (8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -
  6. Instead of making the notenotenotnoentoentoento sections, add spinners since this difficulty has no spinners.
Overall Grade: 7.6
Topic Starter
Doodley

Katsuri wrote:

[General]
  1. Nice SB, but I have some problems here:

    1. Images you have in folder without use: Okay, I fixed all of these unless otherwise excepted.
      ina.png
      intro.png
      intro2.png This is going to be used as a Diff Specific for Mashley's guest difficulty.
      lyrics\mound.png
      lyrics\out.png
      moon.png
      numbered.png
      piledup.png
      space.png The story behind this was that the stars were a seperate image and had two overlay to create paralax scrolling, but it caused far too much stress on the SB Load so I axed it and fused these two images together, forgetting space.png existed.
      this.png
      to one.png
      town.png

      Images you have in folder without code:
      cant.png No, this is used. It's a black version of cant2.png and appears at 00:40:560.
      tmbg.png tmbg.png has code. It's used as the thumbnail and background image during song selection, but not used within the beatmap.

      ----------------------------------------------------------------
      Remove this images and Full-Submit
      ----------------------------------------------------------------

      Things you have in-code but it's not on your folder:
      i've.png This is used at 01:51:453 and is in my folder. Does it not show up for everybody else?
      kaia.png
      lyrics\a.png
      they.png

      ----------------------------------------------------------------
      Remove it from your code
      ----------------------------------------------------------------
Easy
  1. Here I suggest you to set the tick rate to 2, because this way you can hear the constant 1/2 rhythm on slider ticks. It's very recommended by Great mappers like RJ, SG, Larto, DC, NS and others. Done. Sounds especially sexy on this difficulty.
  2. 01:16:256 (3) - Space it just to avoid the ugly overlapiness. Done.
  3. 01:17:684 (7,1,2,3) - Such a weird pattern with bad overlaps and bad flow. I suggest you to forget the symmetry in this case and make it something like this. Yeah, that's much better.
Overral Grade: 8.7 Huh, the Easy difficulty is the best in the map set? Weird, I put a lot more into Insane.

Normal
  1. Same as Easy about Tick rate. Done.
  2. I can't say much for you here, a lot of weird overlaps and bad flowing, try to improve it.. Yeah, it's not the best difficulty. I consider myself good at Easy diffs and Insane diffs, but not much in between. You probably would have flipped shit if you saw my Hard.
Overall Grade: 5.6

Hard This is an Insane, not a Hard...
  1. Tick rate 2.... Done.
  2. 00:17:697 (1) - Space it correctly to avoid the weird overlapiness. Oh, thank you. Sometimes when I shift some patterns around (which I did with the previous combo) I don't recheck afterwards because I'm stupid.
  3. 00:19:483 (3,4,5,6) - Make it something like this would be better for visualize the pattern and make it more playable. It's visual appealing and follows drums too. jesus christ that sounds fucking awesome holy shit
  4. 00:48:399 (8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I don't think notenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotenotes sections are good, try to use some sliders to make it more playable. The way it is now is really boring. Hmm. It's meant to go with the instrumental background (the same one as the beginning) but I do see what you mean. I'll look into shifting it around.
  5. 01:11:970 (7) - Boring to play imo. All I can say about slider repeats is to avoid more than two. CDFA pointed this out too so I'm going to change it. Reduced the repeats to two and added two notes afterwards. Actually sounds particularly better.
    01:57:684 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Same as 00:48:399 (8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -
  6. Instead of making the notenotenotnoentoentoento sections, add spinners since this difficulty has no spinners. Buh. I hate spinners and prefer the notenotenote sections. I'll replace it with a spinner but don't expect it to stick around long.
Overall Grade: 7.6
Thank you very much!
Topic Starter
Doodley
Didn't mean for this to drop into the Graveyard, I've been busy with other projects and have been obsessed with Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3. Hahaha!

I will be approaching some MATs soon and renaming Insane to Hard if Mashley decides he doesn't want to do the difficulty.
Mercurial
Finish this or I'll kill you.
Topic Starter
Doodley

iMercurial wrote:

Finish this or I'll kill you.
I'm very lazy and also have other projects to work on.

If you're willing to get this to some BATs or something then I'd be happy to help.
Stefan
Hmhm.. I remember on this map..
SB was cool how I remember. :)
If I get time I mod it again.
Topic Starter
Doodley
I'm working on it again, mods really help right about now with the new Hard and remapped Normal diffs.
Katsuri
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
Topic Starter
Doodley
Good to know!
Ryu_old
COOL SB

Some queue by Ryu~ owo

BAKAA !! >o<



Hard looks like Normal !! Map some hard elements !!!


or rename ;w;

Insane looks like Hard !!!!!!

if rename, make size circle 4 ;w;
Ryu_old

Katsuri wrote:

Hard This is an Insane, not a Hard...

WROOOOOONG ! BAKAA !! >w<
Topic Starter
Doodley
I'm not renaming either of them. Insane is about as hard as it can get while still following the song without creating any sort of fake difficulty. It wouldn't be fun if it were any harder.

I want to create a mapset of 4 difficulties with a fair difficulty curve, so neither of them are going to be renamed.

I will try to work with Hard to see if I can make it any harder. EDIT: And after reviewing them both, Hard is quite obviously more difficult than Normal, and Insane is also more difficult than Hard. There's a definite difference in difficulty standards here.

edit2: oh okay i see

a #100 rank wants my insane to be renamed to hard

ah
ziin
so the storyboard commands MX and MY are buggy but perfect for this map. Since they are buggy however, we won't use them, and instead just fix your storyboard and all the work you put into it (far too much).

Open the .osb file and change the skyline.png files to all have the same Y value. 188 and 145 for the jump looks good.
M,0,16275,17703,246,191,327,191
M,0,17703,17793,327,191,332,150
whenever you see something like that in the storyboard, change the ~191 number to exactly 188, and the ~150 number to exactly 145. If you really want to be precise, change the X values too.

00:26:269 - johnny's "j" has the top cut off because it's black on black. Move both down a little bit.

01:49:113 - make sure this is perfectly centered or scale it up 1.1x. The bottom right corner isn't being covered properly.

In the future, remember that loops are very easy to use and very quick to make:
_L,6453,20
__M,0,0,179,180,309,180,324
__M,0,179,357,180,324,180,309
This will replace all the bouncing hearse. You don't really need to do it, but just to let you know it's there. After 7 repeats, it will lose 1 millisecond, so you'll have to restart it every so often.

SB looks neat, just has horrible coding.

[normal]
00:25:912 (2) - spacing
01:11:970 (6) - 2x repeating sliders are terrible. Split this up into 2 sliders or repeat and circle

That's it, but I may recheck it. I was tired when I modded.
Topic Starter
Doodley

ziin wrote:

so the storyboard commands MX and MY are buggy but perfect for this map. Since they are buggy however, we won't use them, and instead just fix your storyboard and all the work you put into it (far too much).

Open the .osb file and change the skyline.png files to all have the same Y value. 188 and 145 for the jump looks good.
M,0,16275,17703,246,191,327,191
M,0,17703,17793,327,191,332,150
whenever you see something like that in the storyboard, change the ~191 number to exactly 188, and the ~150 number to exactly 145. If you really want to be precise, change the X values too.

00:26:269 - johnny's "j" has the top cut off because it's black on black. Move both down a little bit.

01:49:113 - make sure this is perfectly centered or scale it up 1.1x. The bottom right corner isn't being covered properly.

In the future, remember that loops are very easy to use and very quick to make:
_L,6453,20
__M,0,0,179,180,309,180,324
__M,0,179,357,180,324,180,309
This will replace all the bouncing hearse. You don't really need to do it, but just to let you know it's there. After 7 repeats, it will lose 1 millisecond, so you'll have to restart it every so often.

SB looks neat, just has horrible coding.

[normal]
00:25:912 (2) - spacing
01:11:970 (6) - 2x repeating sliders are terrible. Split this up into 2 sliders or repeat and circle

That's it, but I may recheck it. I was tired when I modded.
spoiler alert: this was done entirely through the storyboard editor

I know, I know, it's a monstrosity, but it satisfied what I wanted to do with the storyboard. I will do pretty much everything here though, thank you for taking a look at it and helping me!
wcx19911123
from my queue

[General]
I think the timing is a bit off, I just don't know why you set 3 red timing sections with the same BPM.. and I'm sure the timing is off at song's ending. plz find some timing pro to make timing perfect

[sb]
tmbg.png isn't used, remove it

[Easy]
I suggest OD-1 and HD-1, the setting now is kinda high as an Easy diff
00:19:840 (4,1) - wrong spacing here
00:29:110 (1,2,1,2) - why not ctrl+h? the anti-jump here is kinda confusing to read imo
00:46:256 (4,1) - wrong spacing here
01:51:256 (3,4) - plz change to slider, 1/2 click is really too hard to play in an Easy diff

[Normal]
HD-1 OD-1 CS-1 plz, the setting now is too high as a Normal diff
00:17:697 (1,2) - the spacing is really confusing, it makes people think 2 is at 00:19:304 - , plz try a better pattern here to fix the spacing issue
00:25:554 (1) - ^
00:48:399 (6) - better to ctrl+j here and fix the spacing then, or the slider is kinda hidden, confusing imo
01:11:970 (6) - I suggest repeat 1 time less and add a note at 01:13:041 - , slider repeat more than 1 time is hard to read when it end for newbies
01:30:541 (4,5,6) - wrong spacing here..
01:40:363 (5,6) - change into 1 slider? sound better imo
01:43:041 (4,5,6) - ^, it's up to you
01:54:828 (5,1) - don't use huge jumps in a Normal diff, really too hard to read/play

[Hard]
OD-1? kinda high imo
00:47:327 (5,6,7) - not symmetrical here?

[Insane]
HD+1/2 plz, now is really too low
CS-1?
other seems fine

Easy and Normal still need much more work atm, pay attention to the spacing issues, it kills newbies..
nice sb
that's all
Topic Starter
Doodley

wcx19911123 wrote:

[General]
I think the timing is a bit off, I just don't know why you set 3 red timing sections with the same BPM.. and I'm sure the timing is off at song's ending. plz find some timing pro to make timing perfect
Those are BPM resets. It sounds perfect to me, if you listen to it at 25%, it lines up with the drums perfectly. After the third section, there are no more resets, so it's quite clear that it's perfect throughout the rest of the song. kari_kyon already fixed the timing:

ikari_kyon wrote:

1st timeline
BPM: 168,000
Offset: 555

2nd timeline (BPM reset)
BPM: 168,000
Offset: 29110

3nd timeline ( BPM reset, YEAH other BPM reset!)
BPM: 168,000
Offset: 40542

4th timeline (slowdown)
BPM: 144,000
Offset: 133399

nothing more to do here, just change the timing, starrrr <.<
And I'm pretty confident in it, so I'm keeping it.

wcx19911123 wrote:

[sb]
tmbg.png isn't used, remove it :arrow: It's used as the background of the map during menu selection and as the thumbnail on the website. It has coding within the storyboard so as to show up as the menu background and thumbnail, but it's not used within the storyboard. For reference. I think that AIBAT picked that up for you, because it picked it up for me as well when I used it, and it did catch some files that I missed, but tmbg.png is indeed used:

//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
Sprite,Background,TopLeft,"tmbg.png",0,0


[Easy]
I suggest OD-1 and HD-1, the setting now is kinda high as an Easy diff Done.
00:19:840 (4,1) - wrong spacing here Good catch. Done.
00:29:110 (1,2,1,2) - why not ctrl+h? the anti-jump here is kinda confusing to read imo That was a mistake. Done.
00:46:256 (4,1) - wrong spacing here Only by 1 grid. But done.
01:51:256 (3,4) - plz change to slider, 1/2 click is really too hard to play in an Easy diff Fixed.

[Normal]
HD-1 OD-1 CS-1 plz, the setting now is too high as a Normal diff Done. I definitely agree with you on the CS-1, it was far too small.
00:17:697 (1,2) - the spacing is really confusing, it makes people think 2 is at 00:19:304 - , plz try a better pattern here to fix the spacing issue Done. Completely changed the pattern. (1) also looks a little better as a slider.
00:25:554 (1) - ^ Done.
00:48:399 (6) - better to ctrl+j here and fix the spacing then, or the slider is kinda hidden, confusing imo Oh, didn't catch that. I just changed the slider into a 123 stack instead.
01:11:970 (6) - I suggest repeat 1 time less and add a note at 01:13:041 - , slider repeat more than 1 time is hard to read when it end for newbies Done.
01:30:541 (4,5,6) - wrong spacing here.. Oh, that was a mistake. Fixed.
01:40:363 (5,6) - change into 1 slider? sound better imo If you meant push the slider back and remove (5), then extend the slider, then yeah, I did that.
01:43:041 (4,5,6) - ^, it's up to you Same thing.
01:54:828 (5,1) - don't use huge jumps in a Normal diff, really too hard to read/play :arrow: Oh, sorry, that was a mistake. I apologize. Fixed.

[Hard]
OD-1? kinda high imo Done.
00:47:327 (5,6,7) - not symmetrical here? Oh, thanks for catching that. Fixed.

[Insane]
HD+1/2 plz, now is really too low Done. +2.
CS-1? I think I set it to 6 a few days ago but never updated. Which I'll set it to. If you're asking to set it to the lowest possible, then hell no.
other seems fine

Easy and Normal still need much more work atm, pay attention to the spacing issues, it kills newbies.. I completely agree with you on that. Normal is a very new difficulty and needs modding.
nice sb
that's all
Thanks!
Starry_old
[Easy]

00:17:697 (1) - Hmm Flip this Vertically.
00:48:042 (1) - Not a big issue but can you move this to the left a bit. So the spacing equals to 1.23
01:55:899 (1) - (Nazi) Move to the left 1 grid.
01:56:970 (4) - (Nazi) Move it down 5 grids.
01:57:327 (5) - Move this if you plan on moving the above.
01:51:256 (3) - Revere this.

[Normal]

00:29:824 (3) - Looks nicer making this slider. facing down.
00:34:110 (6) - ^
01:26:970 (3) - ^
01:31:256 (6) - ^
01:14:827 (2) - This slider could be nicer.

[Hard]

00:37:681 (1) - Hmm try this. http://puu.sh/v85
01:34:827 (1) - http://puu.sh/v86z

[Insane]

I dislike small circles maybe you can make them a bit bigger?

00:08:590 (6) - Can you make this line up with note 5 and 7.
01:16:256 (3) - Move this up a bit. I don't like sliders touching sliders like this.

Your map is good. But some of your sliders need to be tidied up and made look nicer. The SB is awesome too :3
I guess I can give you a star.

If you have some time you can mod this? t/82215 I don't know if you like the song. But Thanks Anyway.
Topic Starter
Doodley

Starry wrote:

[Easy]

00:17:697 (1) - Hmm Flip this Vertically. Yeah, that was a bad anti jump. Fixed. Also changed the proceeding patterns to accommodate distance snap.
00:48:042 (1) - Not a big issue but can you move this to the left a bit. So the spacing equals to 1.23 Done.
01:55:899 (1) - (Nazi) Move to the left 1 grid. Nah.
01:56:970 (4) - (Nazi) Move it down 5 grids. Nope.
01:57:327 (5) - Move this if you plan on moving the above.
01:51:256 (3) - Revere this. Nope.

[Normal]

00:29:824 (3) - Looks nicer making this slider. facing down. Oh, yeah, definitely. Thanks.
00:34:110 (6) - ^
01:26:970 (3) - ^
01:31:256 (6) - ^
01:14:827 (2) - This slider could be nicer. Fixed.

[Hard]

00:37:681 (1) - Hmm try this. http://puu.sh/v85 HAHAHA. That doesn't lead to a screenshot! It's also quite creepy. But from the second screenshot I know what you mean and I will do that.
01:34:827 (1) - http://puu.sh/v86z

[Insane]

I dislike small circles maybe you can make them a bit bigger? I'm sort of flip-flop on this. I think it looks better at 5, but it's harder at 6. I think I might keep it at 5...

00:08:590 (6) - Can you make this line up with note 5 and 7. It's supposed to be curved.
01:16:256 (3) - Move this up a bit. I don't like sliders touching sliders like this.

Your map is good. But some of your sliders need to be tidied up and made look nicer. The SB is awesome too :3 Thank you. Haven't heard anything bad about the SB.
I guess I can give you a star.

If you have some time you can mod this? t/82215 Thanks! I'll look into it.
Thank you!
Tsukasa
Hi~

Easy:

00:14:840 (3) -- Remove the whistle sound at the end
00:23:412 (6) -- Better off with finish than whistle
00:25:912 (2) -- Distance snap this, this is to near imo
01:08:756 -- Add a note here
01:22:684 (1) -- Put finish sound on the end
01:41:870 (1) -- Add finish sound here
01:43:399 (5) -- Add a finish sound at the end
02:11:970 (1) -- This spinner is pointless here

Normal:

00:38:395 (6) -- Move this somewhere else
02:11:970 (1) -- Same pointless spinner

Hard:

02:11:970 (1) -- Same pointless spinner

Insane:

Circle Size -1
02:11:970 (1) -- Same pointless spinner
Topic Starter
Doodley

[Tsukasa] wrote:

Hi~

Easy:

00:14:840 (3) -- Remove the whistle sound at the end Done.
00:23:412 (6) -- Better off with finish than whistle
00:25:912 (2) -- Distance snap this, this is to near imo It's fine. I think it may have been changed while you were modding.
01:08:756 -- Add a note here Okay.
01:22:684 (1) -- Put finish sound on the end Done.
01:41:870 (1) -- Add finish sound here Did this and removed the finish sound on the previous slider.
01:43:399 (5) -- Add a finish sound at the end Did this, but removed the finish at the beginning. I don't want too many finishes.
02:11:970 (1) -- This spinner is pointless here These aren't pointless. They're there to map the outro of the song without causing timing and rhythm problems involved with mapping. I want to map this section as a finale, and admittedly I don't want them skipping the ending on the storyboard, but it's kind of hard to map for easier difficulties. I'll try and map it without the spinner.

Normal:

00:38:395 (6) -- Move this somewhere else Done.
02:11:970 (1) -- Same pointless spinner Remapped. These sections are being remapped with the fact that there is a slow down in mind, so they mostly involve sliders on the slowdown.

Hard:

02:11:970 (1) -- Same pointless spinner Remapped.

Insane:

Circle Size -1 Already done.
02:11:970 (1) -- Same pointless spinner There is no spinner there. I think you just added this but didn't check to see if there was a spinner there.
Thanks!
meiikyuu
hello ~stopping by, as thanks for modding my map

feel free to ignore suggestions if you don't like
Nice SB btw :)

Easy
01:10:899 (2) - add whistle

looks good

Normal
00:33:752 (5) - i dont think u should make this touching 3 since none of the other single notes that are in similar
00:47:684 (5) - remove finish at the end of slider , doesnt rly fit the vocal i think

Hard
01:17:684 (6) - clap at end?
Topic Starter
Doodley

meiikyuu wrote:

hello ~stopping by, as thanks for modding my map

feel free to ignore suggestions if you don't like
Nice SB btw :)

Easy
01:10:899 (2) - add whistle Done.

looks good

Normal
00:33:752 (5) - i dont think u should make this touching 3 since none of the other single notes that are in similar That was a mistake. Fixed.
00:47:684 (5) - remove finish at the end of slider , doesnt rly fit the vocal i think Done.

Hard
01:17:684 (6) - clap at end? Done.
Thanks!
Cygnus
  • Easy
  1. 00:10:733 (1) - This note is off rhthm. Remove it please.

  2. 00:43:399 (5) - Fix this blanket for better gameplay.

  3. 00:46:256 (4) - This too.

  4. 01:10:541 (1,2,3,4,5) - Spacing.

  • Normal
  1. Seems fine.

  • Hard
  1. Seems fine and the rest ~
Topic Starter
Doodley

Philippines wrote:

  • Easy
  1. 00:10:733 (1) - This note is off rhthm. Remove it please. No, it follows the rhythm of the lyrics, which is what the whole map falls on. I'm aware it falls on a red tick, but it seems boring just to have the same three 1/1 notes then a slider pattern done several times throughout the map when it sounds and plays much better when on a red tick. If an MAT tells me to change it, I will.

  2. 00:43:399 (5) - Fix this blanket for better gameplay. Seems fine to me.

  3. 00:46:256 (4) - This too. Done.

  4. 01:10:541 (1,2,3,4,5) - Spacing. It follows distance snap, but I moved (5) closer anyway.

  • Normal
  1. Seems fine.

  • Hard
  1. Seems fine and the rest ~
Topic Starter
Doodley
I'm just going to go ahead and dump my kd on this map because why not.
congaan
hi~ from #modreqs
just suggestions

[Hard]
01:18:934 (1,2) - rearrange please
01:23:042 (2,3) - don't touch. look bad
01:30:541 (1,2,3,4) - ^ (2,3,4) are stacked, so 1 grid right and down.
01:34:827 (1) - could be nicer
01:40:542 (1) - fmm, move to x:176y:240?

[Insane]
01:14:827 (1,2,3,4,5) - please fix spacing. I often forget to beat (4)

Nice SB~~~ but...combo...colors.__.
Topic Starter
Doodley

wingman_dw wrote:

hi~ from #modreqs Oh, thank you!
just suggestions

[Hard]
01:18:934 (1,2) - rearrange please Okay.
01:23:042 (2,3) - don't touch. look bad I moved it, if you're saying the placement was bad?
01:30:541 (1,2,3,4) - ^ (2,3,4) are stacked, so 1 grid right and down. Okay.
01:34:827 (1) - could be nicer Rearranged it.
01:40:542 (1) - fmm, move to x:176y:240? Done.

[Insane]
01:14:827 (1,2,3,4,5) - please fix spacing. I often forget to beat (4) I just moved (4), the spacing was fine.

Nice SB~~~ but...combo...colors.__. Yes, I suppose I should make them more readable.
Thank you for the help!
Low
This map is fantastic, man. The SB compliments it nicely.

General

  1. You might want to add your previous username into the tags, as you started the map as stickmeister.
  2. You've got 2 .osb files. Remove one.
  3. intro1.png, intro3.png, and tmbg.png have a code somewhere in the SB, but aren't used. Please remove them.
Easy

  1. 00:17:697 (1,2) - Odd overlap between this slider and circle.
  2. 00:33:395 (3) - Remove the NC here for consistency.
  3. 00:49:113 (4) - Add a finish here. It sounds right.
  4. 02:14:232 (2) - Add a whistle to the end of this.
Normal

  1. 00:21:983 (1,2,3) - Don't stack these, as it may be difficult to read for a player of normal experience. You may also want to turn it into a short reverse slider. Take this note for all triplet stacks you have.
  2. 00:33:395 (4) - Add a NC here for consistency.
  3. 00:38:395 (3) - The claps on this slider should be on the beginning and end of it.
  4. 01:14:827 (2,3) - Odd looking overlap.
  5. 01:16:970 (4,5) - ^
  6. 01:17:684 (5,1) - ^
Hard

  1. You should really make the circle size larger. This IS a hard difficulty, after all.
  2. 00:33:395 (1,2) - In game, due to stacking, these overlap.
Well done.
Topic Starter
Doodley

Jacob wrote:

This map is fantastic, man. The SB compliments it nicely.

General

  1. You might want to add your previous username into the tags, as you started the map as stickmeister. Done, good call.
  2. You've got 2 .osb files. Remove one. Done. I think that was because of my old name.
  3. intro1.png, intro3.png, and tmbg.png have a code somewhere in the SB, but aren't used. Please remove them. Removed into1.png and intro3.png. tmbg.png is the background as it shows up as the menu background and thumbnail on the osu website and osudirect. It's not used within the map, only as a thumbnail and menu background. I'm going to give this code in the storyboard.
Easy

  1. 00:17:697 (1,2) - Odd overlap between this slider and circle. Only a teensy bit. But I'll move it.
  2. 00:33:395 (3) - Remove the NC here for consistency. Good catch.
  3. 00:49:113 (4) - Add a finish here. It sounds right. It does!
  4. 02:14:232 (2) - Add a whistle to the end of this. Done.
Normal

  1. 00:21:983 (1,2,3) - Don't stack these, as it may be difficult to read for a player of normal experience. You may also want to turn it into a short reverse slider. Take this note for all triplet stacks you have. Gotcha. I'm personally not a fan of short repeat sliders, but works pretty well here.
  2. 00:33:395 (4) - Add a NC here for consistency. Good catch. I miss these small things a lot.
  3. 00:38:395 (3) - The claps on this slider should be on the beginning and end of it. Okay. There was a slider near the beginning that did the same thing; I fixed that too.
  4. 01:14:827 (2,3) - Odd looking overlap. Moved it. Also fixed the overlap between (3) and (4) that could cause some problems with readability.
  5. 01:16:970 (4,5) - ^ Yeah, fixed.
  6. 01:17:684 (5,1) - ^ Also fixed.
Hard

  1. You should really make the circle size larger. This IS a hard difficulty, after all. Done.
  2. 00:33:395 (1,2) - In game, due to stacking, these overlap. Good catch.
Well done.
Thank you, sir!
Roddie
Hey there. Just wanted to see if you have been making some improvement. Now, let's see what I can do to help you out further.

Easy

Looks alright to me.

Normal
  1. 00:19:304 (x)-Might if I suggest adding a note here? in my opinion, this follows the vocals pretty well. Test it out. See and hear for yourself.
Hard
  1. 01:23:399 (3)-The way the previous notes overlapping the slider track of slider 3 doesn't look good really. Consider flipping this slider vertically.
Insane

Here is the chatlog about it.

Chatlog
20:19 <Doodley> : yo roddie
20:19 <Roddie> : hey
20:19 <Roddie> : there you are
20:19 <Doodley> : yeah
20:20 <Roddie> : let's do this
20:20 <Doodley> : a'ight
20:20 <Roddie> : We're going to be discussing about your insane diff
20:20 <Roddie> : there are some things I can help you improve on
20:21 <Doodley> : good good
20:21 <Roddie> : and make things a little challenging for the player, I should say (:
20:21 <Doodley> : ah, yes, good
20:22 <Roddie> : 00:51:345 (x)-
20:23 <Roddie> : add a note here
20:23 <Roddie> : that way, this pattern can be a note triple
20:23 <Doodley> : oh, it falls on the drums, i see
20:23 <Doodley> : okay
20:23 <Roddie> : yes
20:23 <Roddie> : and then
20:23 <Doodley> : also makes it less of a notenotenote pattern which people have been complaining about
20:24 <Roddie> : really now?
20:24 <Doodley> : yes
20:24 <Roddie> : hm...
20:24 <Doodley> : which is why those repeat sliders are there
20:25 <Roddie> : 00:51:613 (7)-
20:26 <Roddie> : well, might i suggest a note stream here?
20:26 <Doodley> : 1/2 note stream?
20:26 <Roddie> : something like this would help you
20:26 <Roddie> : no
20:26 <Roddie> : a 1/4 note stream (:
20:26 <Doodley> : oh snap
20:26 <Doodley> : actually, that also fits the drums...!
20:26 <Roddie> : that's right
20:27 <Roddie> : it is something like this
20:27 <Doodley> : awesome
20:27 <Roddie> : http://puu.sh/A7ac
20:27 <Doodley> : okay, so 5 note 1/4?
20:27 <Roddie> : yes
20:28 <Doodley> : i might chance around this placement later to accomodate that
20:28 <Doodley> : change*
20:28 <Roddie> : okay, good (:
20:28 <Roddie> : you can add hitsounds to those btw
20:28 <Roddie> : if you like
20:29 <Doodley> : yeah, of course
20:29 <Roddie> : can't forget about the hitsounds, man
20:29 <Roddie> : and that's it
20:29 <Roddie> : we're done
20:31 <Doodley> : oh okay
20:31 <Doodley> : a similar pattern appears arooouuund
20:31 <Doodley> : oh no wait
20:31 <Doodley> : that's a spinner
20:31 <Doodley> : heh
20:31 <Roddie> : lol
20:31 <Doodley> : spinner fits more there
20:31 <Doodley> : it used to be a similar pattern
20:32 <Roddie> : haha
20:32 <Roddie> : its cool, man

And that's about it. Give me a call when you are finished looking through my mod.
Topic Starter
Doodley

Roddie wrote:

Hey there. Just wanted to see if you have been making some improvement. Now, let's see what I can do to help you out further.

Easy

Looks alright to me.

Normal
  1. 00:19:304 (x)-Might if I suggest adding a note here? in my opinion, this follows the vocals pretty well. Test it out. See and hear for yourself. Done. Sounds pretty good. Plays pretty fine, too.
Hard
  1. 01:23:399 (3)-The way the previous notes overlapping the slider track of slider 3 doesn't look good really. Consider flipping this slider vertically. I was going to do that way earlier but my inner stupidity cried out "but the previous slider was flipped verticallyyyyyy." But it actually makes it looks worse situated the way I had it, so it looks fine when flipped vertically. So yeah, done.
Insane

Here is the chatlog about it.

Chatlog
20:19 <Doodley> : yo roddie
20:19 <Roddie> : hey
20:19 <Roddie> : there you are
20:19 <Doodley> : yeah
20:20 <Roddie> : let's do this
20:20 <Doodley> : a'ight
20:20 <Roddie> : We're going to be discussing about your insane diff
20:20 <Roddie> : there are some things I can help you improve on
20:21 <Doodley> : good good
20:21 <Roddie> : and make things a little challenging for the player, I should say (:
20:21 <Doodley> : ah, yes, good
20:22 <Roddie> : 00:51:345 (x)-
20:23 <Roddie> : add a note here
20:23 <Roddie> : that way, this pattern can be a note triple
20:23 <Doodley> : oh, it falls on the drums, i see
20:23 <Doodley> : okay
20:23 <Roddie> : yes
20:23 <Roddie> : and then
20:23 <Doodley> : also makes it less of a notenotenote pattern which people have been complaining about
20:24 <Roddie> : really now?
20:24 <Doodley> : yes
20:24 <Roddie> : hm...
20:24 <Doodley> : which is why those repeat sliders are there
20:25 <Roddie> : 00:51:613 (7)-
20:26 <Roddie> : well, might i suggest a note stream here?
20:26 <Doodley> : 1/2 note stream?
20:26 <Roddie> : something like this would help you
20:26 <Roddie> : no
20:26 <Roddie> : a 1/4 note stream (:
20:26 <Doodley> : oh snap
20:26 <Doodley> : actually, that also fits the drums...!
20:26 <Roddie> : that's right
20:27 <Roddie> : it is something like this
20:27 <Doodley> : awesome
20:27 <Roddie> : http://puu.sh/A7ac
20:27 <Doodley> : okay, so 5 note 1/4?
20:27 <Roddie> : yes
20:28 <Doodley> : i might chance around this placement later to accomodate that
20:28 <Doodley> : change*
20:28 <Roddie> : okay, good (:
20:28 <Roddie> : you can add hitsounds to those btw
20:28 <Roddie> : if you like
20:29 <Doodley> : yeah, of course
20:29 <Roddie> : can't forget about the hitsounds, man
20:29 <Roddie> : and that's it
20:29 <Roddie> : we're done
20:31 <Doodley> : oh okay
20:31 <Doodley> : a similar pattern appears arooouuund
20:31 <Doodley> : oh no wait
20:31 <Doodley> : that's a spinner
20:31 <Doodley> : heh
20:31 <Roddie> : lol
20:31 <Doodley> : spinner fits more there
20:31 <Doodley> : it used to be a similar pattern
20:32 <Roddie> : haha
20:32 <Roddie> : its cool, man

And that's about it. Give me a call when you are finished looking through my mod.
Okay, thank you, I'll PM you riiiiiiight now!
Roddie
Okay, looks all set to me.

So... Bubbled!
Topic Starter
Doodley
aw yiss!
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