Well at least in my level of playing, the top scores all allways HDHR or DTHD, don't know what low level top plays you play. So I really don't care if the top play is or not FL.
Darkan996 wrote:What do you mean?That was my reaction to how insane this suggestion is. It must be a copy-paste meme. It might not appear insane to you, but you kinda went on a rant that screams how you hate the top scores being all FL while the mod being irrelevant to your desired skillset. If you did attempt to say anything reasonable, than that hatred of yours toward FL spoke louder.
What you say here just recalls what i am saying. Bassicly FL is all just memory, wich is a skill only required for FL mods, at least in mayor way. I even state in some part of my comment that FL it's one of the hardest mods with the game, (same as EZ) and now I said that both of them are kinda memory base. FL a lot more than EZ, EZ it's a reading mod, one of the most harder mods in the entire game.
Darkan996 wrote:Whe can considarate memorise a single map at is "Skill" you don't read more AR you don't have lower circle size, you don't have to read the map in another way or play it faster, you just have to memorise it.Memorizing the map while it is visible is one thing, but while it is invisible, that's another. While the map is visible, you are playing it by reaction and reading most of the time. You need to memorize select few parts which tend to trip you up. FL requires more memorization of note locations, and that impacts performance since you are now recalling from memory instead of reacting and reading. It's easier to look and react than to recall from memory.
Yeah FL only deals with memorization a skill that isn't almost unneed in the rest of the game only for a few exceptions (talking about only the current rankign system), the problem with "Yeah just play more osu! and you will be better!!" It's true, but it dosen't fully aply in FL... You see, if you play a lot A LOT OF FL like a man who only plays with HD, A TON OF FL, ONLY FL MAIN SINCE BETTA (Kappa) you will be better!! But only with the song that you play with FL.... If you practice ar9.5 keep on practice, you will be better with ALL the songs with ar9.5, but not with FL, since memory only is usefull in one map at the time. I have said this i and will say this again (becouse looks like you don't even read the hole coment lol) I said that FL was easy becouse it's an easy mode in some way, but in another is the most difficult one of all mods! Imagine, even cookiezi AKA the best player in the world, will never FC any map with 5.6 stars or more with FL in his first time, Cookiezi and none one. So if you take that in account it's the hardest mod! But FL sucks becouse it's dosent reward you for beeing a good player, it's reward you for playing the map over and over hundreds of times, and memorize it. The reason becouse I said it's easy is that, becouse a normie lvl player like me could win in a 1vs1 againts anybody if we play a map that I had an FC with FL on it and he havent even play it for the first time. Anybody literally. It's easy for me but hard for them. It's takes no skill becouse, it's dosent reward you for have skill, (even if you are an ONLY FL player you will NEVER fc a FL map at first try).
Darkan996 wrote:Whe can considarate memorise a single map at is "Skill" you don't read more AR you don't have lower circle size, you don't have to read the map in another way or play it faster, you just have to memorise it. The reason becouse i said that takes no skill, it's becouse even Cookiezi the best player in the world, could failed a jumpy map with FL, and he is the guy with MORE SKILL IN THE WORLD, but even him couldn't FC it in the first time. He will have (as anybody alse in 5* fc lvl of skill do) to memorise the map. It's not about skill it's about memory.You say FL has no skill because it only deals with memorization. That it is an easy thing to do given enough time. Stop and think about it. Everything in osu! is an easy thing to do given enough time. There is a reason you hear the most popular saying when a player cries to the community asking how to get better, "play more". Reading -infinity AR is an easy thing to do given enough time. 300 BPM jumps is an easy thing to do given enough time. Anything will get easier if you practice it, and while you are practicing it, you learn how to do it, and learning is entirely memory based.
All your skills are aspects of your memory. To do those things, the player needs to develop various memories for such things, memories that are independent of FL and are unrelated to recollecting note positions. It's remembering how fingers should tap, remembering how a jump should turn, remembering how the movement of a star pattern, etc. A non FL player is too dependent on reading notes and reacting to what is on screen to develop a well enough memory for note positions or "picture" of patterns in the map. To say FL doesn't require skill is being either ignorant of FL requiring some sort of skill or being ignorant that memorization of certain information is a skill (maybe both?).
But still, that isnt the point of the post, the point was, thinking if we should lower the multp of FL becouse it's anti-intuitive that a mod with higher mult gives less PP. It's just have no sence.
The fun thing is that you said that Im the one who dosen't know about FL, and im the ignorant of FL, and you can't even FC a 4.21 star map. Even if you play with FL, the 4.21 star map (that you don't) you still don't know anything about the world of FL that's it's a lot harder when the large jumps start to appear in the maps (5.4 stars and above) wich is when FL becomes really hard. Myself can't even try this things becouse I get fucked. And you remark that I don't play FL, when i addmit this, why you should bring it back? I said this (and don't quote becouse the system to quote is shit and im tired of it) "You are right, I have less to none FL plays, the only good FL play that I have it's a pokemon map "https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1412291" FC 2x100 99.33 with easy mod, just becouse I found it fun to FC with FL and Easy so i canno't talk very much about FL plays, but i think i have exp enough to backup mi quotes and also I just made that play becouse i found FL and EZ the hardest mods. But when I said that FL was easy, it's just in some way, I mean this becouse it's really diff to balance the mod in the game. " I even state than i found FL and EZ the hardest mods, and later I explain why I wanted to eliminate it, but now i don't, I encourege you to read my comment before anwser it lol. And for leave this clear, you are the one who started with the personal attack, let's just leave it there, shall we? If you may, just talk about the actual hipocresy of FL and HR please, i will make another post to disccuse this, another day if im borred, and I will give you a link if you want to talk with me in that post. Thanks for you replay, at least I get some fun out of anwser you, since you are the only one who anwser me.