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Melophobia

Kei wrote:

Hi! hi~ ></

  • General
  1. The name of this song actually includes that "_"? If not, you should remove it. I'm not sure since I don't know this song.

  2. And.. why do you added that pointless "... !!" to the source's name? It would be better if you remove that.
both are fine.



  • [Easy]
  1. 00:05:837 (3) - A new combo here would fit nice and also it would be more consistent with your combos since they're following the vocals in my opinion (obviously, after adding nc here remove nc of the next slider). same as mentioned on Insane.
  2. 00:17:000 (1,2,3) - I find this difficult for beginners. How about trying something more simple and easier to play.. like this?: its fine to me
  3. 00:18:744 (3) - If I'm not wrong.. here's a missing finish at the end of this slider. If it is not missing, I anyways suggest you to add a finish there. Sounds good to me. clap is better to me, sorry
  4. 00:25:720 (1) - This spinner starts way too early after the slider (1). I think you should make the slider (1) 1 tick larger and move the spinner to somewhere else.. but not way too early after (1).. perhaps move it to 00:26:418? nah
  5. 00:36:883 (3) - Unnecessary long combo. I suggest you to add a new combo here since it reduces the combo number and also fits with the vocals. ok
  6. 00:44:558 (1) - This slider sounds weird and may be confusing because in your previous patterns you added notes just when the vocals start.. but here this slider isn't following anything and also doesn't follow your previous patterns. To fix this you can move the slider (1) to 00:44:906, delete (2), and then add to (1) one repeat. nah it enables to add double claps
  7. 00:50:837 (1,2..) - Another difficult combo in my opinion. I think you should try something more simple again.. maybe something like this: sorry but no changed, its playable for beginner and easy enogh, imo
  8. 01:18:395 (4) - Just the same as I told you about 00:05:837 (3): A new combo here would fit nice and also it would be more consistent with your combos since they're following the vocals in my opinion (obviously, after adding nc here remove nc of the next slider). nah, my newcombos are mainly following downbeat. sorry

    Good. You should use more long sliders instead of many circles.. or short sliders with repeat.. because that may be way to difficult for the most easiest difficulty of your mapset, and also this difficulty it may be considered more like a [Normal] rather than a [Easy].

  • [Insane]
  1. 00:05:837 (3) - You should add a new combo here and remove new combo of the next slider. Fits more with the vocals in my opinion. its fine to me because of a dowbeat
  2. 00:15:430 (1) - This new combo seems pointless. How about removing it? nah, it can warn players sudden changes of spacing visually
  3. 00:19:790 (3) - Try adding a finish here. Sounds nice to me. nah, current one is better to me
  4. 00:21:186 (5,6,7) - I feel this overmapped. I think you should delete (6) and (7). i dont think so
  5. 01:12:116 (11,1) - Such a big jump doesn't fit here. hmm, you're right, deleted some notes
  6. 01:11:767 (7,8,9,10,11) - Overmapped.. ^
  7. 01:23:453 (2) - Here's missing a finish at the start of this slider. fixed
  8. 01:35:575 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Overmapped again.. somehow, i like this pattern... x_x sorry but no changes

    Like I told you several times, I feel this difficulty overmapped. Don't make random streams only to increase the difficulty. That doesn't make sense nor follows the music. yep i will keep it in mind orz

    _______________________________
That's all. >.<

Good luck!
thank you for modding~
swish

Kei wrote:

  • [swish's Normal]

    Oh dear god.. this slider velocity is fast for a Normal difficulty in my opinion. I think you should decrease it a bit.
  1. 00:06:883 (3) - You should avoid to make sliders with more than 1 repeat. That may be confusing for a Normal/Easy. I think you should try this instead.. it also fits way more with the music in my opinion sorry,no change. I think that it is not interesting in a monotonous rhythm... imo
  2. 00:19:267 (4,5) - This sounds weird.. (4) isn't following anything at all. I suggest you to make (4) end at 00:19:790 and after that delete (5). ok
  3. 00:25:023 (5) - Perhaps a new combo here due to the vocals 'change'? ^
  4. 00:36:534 (1,2,3) - This combo sounds weird and off too. I think that this should be like this ^
  5. 00:44:034 (4) - This slider sounds weird too because it doesn't fit with your previous rhythm (you added that short slider 00:43:511 (3) which follows perfectly the vocals, but this one doesn't). I think it should be more like this instead of that: ^
  6. 00:58:860 (3) - And again, I think you should add a new combo here due to the vocals 'change' and also because this combo's number is way too high for a Normal. ^
  7. 00:59:209 (2,3) - This sounds confunsing for beginners due to that SB sample at 00:59:558. I think you should make (2) end at the white tick (2 ticks shorter). I think that it is more suitable for beginners and 'not so-experienced' players and it also sounds better in my opinion. sorry,keep it now :o
  8. 01:08:976 (3) - A new combo here would make sense. It fit nice with the vocals, don't you think? :3 ok
  9. 01:10:372 (3) - ^ Here too. ^
  10. 01:13:162 (3) - This slider shape looks weird and off of place because neither of your previous sliders have this shape. How about changing it in a way that doesn't look like this? sorry,no change
  11. 01:18:744 (2) - Again, just the same as I told you about 00:59:209 (2,3). ^
  12. 01:34:093 (3) - A new combo here would make sense too, like I already told you about 01:08:976 (3). ok
  13. 01:37:755 (4) - Here's missing clap at the end of this slider. hmm.. clap is not suited imo. add finish
  14. 01:43:337 (5) - That clap at the start of this slider doesn't follow your claps hitsound pattern. You should remove it. oops.. my mistake :P removed
thanks for modding~

Download: NANA - Be_Natural (Short Ver.) (Melophobia) [swish's Normal].osu
Rare

DeathBlood wrote:

[Rare's Hard]
00:04:790 (1) - フィニッシュ!
00:06:186 (3) - ^スライダーの最初に!
00:06:883 (5) - ^
00:07:406 (7) - 最初と最後にフィニシュ!
00:07:930 (8) - 最後にフィニッシュ!最初とリバースはホイッスル
00:40:023 (4) - 最初にフィニッシュ
00:41:418 (5) - ^
00:42:813 (3) - ^
00:44:034 (7) - 終わりにフィニッシュ
参考にさせてもらって自分で加えて見ました~

01:14:383 (1,2) - フィニッシュのがいいかもです。 音が浮いちゃう気がしたのでnoで
01:36:883 (4) - 最後にクラップ!added
01:46:651 (1) - ホイッスル added
01:49:093 (1) - フィニッシュ added

Kei wrote:

[Rare's Hard]
  1. 00:02:872 ~ 00:08:627 - All those notes in this section lack of hitsounds. You should add samples to these notes, and also, the sample's volume sounds way too low to me. Perhaps increase it a bit? instead of added some hitsounds.
  2. 00:08:976 - WTF.. this is way too weird. Why the hitsounds change to Normal all of a sudden when the song hasn't changed in anything? You should do like in the other difficulties: change the samples set to Normal at 00:14:558. Sounds way better, and makes sense. can you hear the sound of the base? so I used a normal hitsound. but lowered the normal hitsound.
  3. 00:13:511 (6) - Here's missing a clap at the start of this slider. added
  4. 00:19:790 (4) - ^ ^
  5. 00:20:488 (2) - ^ ^
  6. 00:21:186 (4) - ^ ^
  7. 00:21:534 (1) - ^ (but at the end of the slider) ^
  8. 00:22:581 (3) - Missing clap. ^
  9. 00:23:279 (2) - ^ sry I don't want to add hit clap.
  10. 00:23:627 (3) - ^ at the repeat placed in the white tick (00:23:976). sry, I don't want to add hit clap.
  11. 00:25:720 ~ 00:31:127 - And again, all those notes in this section lack of hitsounds. They only have some finishes, but what about claps? You should continue following your claps pattern. ^
  12. 00:26:593 (4) - This slider sounds weird. I think it would sound better if you make it end at the white tick (make it 2 ticks shorter) and then add a note at 00:26:941. good idea. fixed it.
  13. 00:52:755 (5) - This slider is placed in a confusing way. I mean, this is a confusing little jump. It looks like this slider starts at the blue tick instead of the red one. I think you should fix this spacing. sry no change
  14. 01:00:953 (4) - This jump doesn't fit with the music in my opinion. fixed
  15. 01:10:372 (1) - I find this slider is a bit hard to see because it gets overlapped with the hitbursts. How about moving it somewhere else for a better flow and gameplay?: okay, fixed.
  16. 01:26:593 (8,9) - Hm don't you think that this placement is a bit hard to read and difficult for a Hard? There's a [Insane] in this mapset already.. I don't understand why this Hard has to be this difficult. You should leave this patterns for the hardest difficulty. If this were the hardest difficulty of the mapset those jumps and patterns would be okay. Well, this is what I personally think. fixed
  17. 01:34:093 (4) - A new combo here would fit nice. oops, I forgot add new combo. thanks.
  18. 01:42:465 (1) - Hm this slider sounds weird to me. I think that this part should be more like this instead: sry no change
thanks for modding guys!

Download: NANA - Be_Natural (Short Ver.) (Melophobia) [Rare's Hard].osu
Topic Starter
Melophobia
すみません見落としてました(土下座

DeathBlood wrote:

mod queues!ヽ('ω')ノ≡ヽ('ω')ノ

[Insane]
01:01:738 (7,8,9,10) - ホイッスル ここは笛あわないきがするのでno~
01:40:023 (6,1) - ここでこうゆう音取りなら01:42:988 (3,4) - ここらへんも同じ音取りのほうがわかりやすいかもです。うっかりでした
ありがとうございました
Nymph
Hi Nymph here and request from my queue.

General:
seems all fine for me.

Easy:
nice.


swish's Normal:
Hitsound
01:42:465 (4,5,6,1) - not sure why you make it a lower volumn at here, because the normal volumn sounds just right for me, maybe you have your own idea O.O?


Rare's Hard:
Issue
00:33:569 (1) - new combo bug, add new combo here.

Beatmap design/suggestion
00:33:569 (1,2,3,4,5) - this pattern didn't feel very comfortable to play. because there are long vocal at 00:33:918 and 00:35:313 here, but at those times you are using a note. if you don't like to use long sliders to follow those vocal, at least try to make the short sliders start at there instead of those notes. because notes really didn't give a good feeling of playing there, of course just personal suggestion =3=
others seems fine for me.


Insane:
Issue
AR8 seems much comfortable for this mapset.

Hitsound
00:20:139 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4) - only finishes here? mp3 got some very clear clap sound, seems you only follow some of them using finishes, maybe try to follow them, would make it better to hear.
so maybe try these:
00:21:011 (4) - clap?
00:22:406 (4) -
00:23:279 (5) -
00:23:627 (9) -
00:23:802 (1) -
00:24:151 (3) -

00:25:023 (1) - and same suggestions after here, really feel a little too empty.
01:12:116 (1) - missing clap or on purpose? feel a little weird that no clap here.
nothing else, just think some claps would make this diff more exciting.


And that is all for me I think. good luck!
Topic Starter
Melophobia
> Nymph
almost fixed, thanks alot~
swish

Nymph wrote:

swish's Normal:
Hitsound
01:42:465 (4,5,6,1) - not sure why you make it a lower volumn at here, because the normal volumn sounds just right for me, maybe you have your own idea O.O? ok fixed :)
thanks for modding~ :)

Download: NANA - Be_Natural (Short Ver.) (Melophobia) [swish's Normal].osu
Rare

Nymph wrote:

Rare's Hard:
Issue
00:33:569 (1) - new combo bug, add new combo here. fixed~

Beatmap design/suggestion
00:33:569 (1,2,3,4,5) - this pattern didn't feel very comfortable to play. because there are long vocal at 00:33:918 and 00:35:313 here, but at those times you are using a note. if you don't like to use long sliders to follow those vocal, at least try to make the short sliders start at there instead of those notes. because notes really didn't give a good feeling of playing there, of course just personal suggestion =3=
others seems fine for me. nice suggestion, fixed~
thanks for modding Nymph ;)

Download: NANA - Be_Natural (Short Ver.) (Melophobia) [Rare's Hard].osu
Leorda
Konnichiha

Easy
00:54:674 (2) - Replace with a slider for better flow?
01:06:186 (3) - Try add clap in tail slider?
01:07:581 (1) - Remove finish at end slider?
01:08:976 (2) - ^
01:12:116 (x) - Add note here for better flow?
01:21:534 (1) - Why finish on end slider?
01:26:767 (x) - Add note here for better flow?


swish's Normal
00:23:976 (3) - Missing clap at start slider?
00:44:906 (x) - Add note here for following instruments?
00:47:697 (1) - Missing clap at start slider?
01:05:488 (3) - Add finish at tail slider?
01:22:930 (2) - Make this slider parallel?


Rare's Hard
00:50:488 (2) - Remove whistle at head slider


That's all....
swish

Leorda wrote:

swish's Normal
00:23:976 (3) - Missing clap at start slider?
00:44:906 (x) - Add note here for following instruments?
00:47:697 (1) - Missing clap at start slider?
01:05:488 (3) - Add finish at tail slider?
01:22:930 (2) - Make this slider parallel? sorry.. :(
other all fixed~
thanks for modding~ :)

Download: NANA - Be_Natural (Short Ver.) (Melophobia) [swish's Normal].osu
Topic Starter
Melophobia
> Leorda

Terima kasih~ :D

fixed all~
Kurai
swish's Normal
  1. Why do you use only AR4. The pace of the song is pretty fast (172BPM) and if you use such a low AR it akes a bad contrast (besides it makes some pattern harder to read and awkward). Use AR5 instead.
  2. 01:46:302 (3) - I don't get why you have stacked this circle, I mean, it breaks the flow of the pattern. Consider unstacking it please.
Rare's Hard
  1. 00:09:848 (2) - Don't put it underneath the previous slider, it is hidden and it is not very easy to understand what's going on here >.>
  2. 00:11:593 - As you are following the vovals, you should add a note here.
  3. 00:19:267 (3) - This jump is too sudden and isn't justified by the usic. I don't see why you would have a jump here.
  4. 00:23:627 (3) - The reverse arrows are hidden by 00:22:581 (3)'s hitburst. They have too be visible otherwise the player can't expect this slider to have reverses easily.
  5. 00:52:755 (5) - The reverse arrow is partially hidden here. For the same reason as above you should make it fully visible.
  6. 01:17:000 (4) - Don't hide the slider under the previous slider's track. It makes it hardly readable.
  7. 01:21:883 (2) - Why do you have a jump here, it's not really justified and plays awkward.
  8. 01:26:244 (7) - Same as above ^.
Insane
  1. 00:29:470 - If you really want to follow the drums, you should add a circle here.
Rare

Kurai wrote:

Rare's Hard
  1. 00:09:848 (2) - Don't put it underneath the previous slider, it is hidden and it is not very easy to understand what's going on here >.> fixed
  2. 00:11:593 - As you are following the vovals, you should add a note here.fixed
  3. 00:19:267 (3) - This jump is too sudden and isn't justified by the usic. I don't see why you would have a jump here.fixed
  4. 00:23:627 (3) - The reverse arrows are hidden by 00:22:581 (3)'s hitburst. They have too be visible otherwise the player can't expect this slider to have reverses easily. fixed
  5. 00:52:755 (5) - The reverse arrow is partially hidden here. For the same reason as above you should make it fully visible.fixed
  6. 01:17:000 (4) - Don't hide the slider under the previous slider's track. It makes it hardly readable.fixed
  7. 01:21:883 (2) - Why do you have a jump here, it's not really justified and plays awkward.fixed
  8. 01:26:244 (7) - Same as above ^. sry no change
thanks for modding ~~

Download: NANA - Be_Natural (Short Ver.) (Melophobia) [Rare's Hard].osu
swish

Kurai wrote:

swish's Normal
  1. Why do you use only AR4. The pace of the song is pretty fast (172BPM) and if you use such a low AR it akes a bad contrast (besides it makes some pattern harder to read and awkward). Use AR5 instead. ok
  2. 01:46:302 (3) - I don't get why you have stacked this circle, I mean, it breaks the flow of the pattern. Consider unstacking it please. fixed
thanks for modding~

Download: NANA - Be_Natural (Short Ver.) (Melophobia) [swish's Normal].osu
Topic Starter
Melophobia
>Kurai

updated, thank you for modding~
Andrea
[Rare's Hard]

00:56:418 (7,1) - I don't really like this anti-jump.

[Insane]

00:28:511 (1) - Put a Finish at the end of this slider.

Just fix these and I'll bubble :3
Rare

osuplayer111 wrote:

[Rare's Hard]

00:56:418 (7,1) - I don't really like this anti-jump.

fixed~

thanks modding :)

Download: NANA - Be_Natural (Short Ver.) (Melophobia) [Rare's Hard].osu
Topic Starter
Melophobia
> osuplayer111

fixed, thanks for modding~
Andrea
Sorry for the delay, looks good now!

Bubbled~
Kuramoti Asuka
so cute xD
James2250
[Rare's Hard]
-Would be nice if this could include the short break where the other difficulties have it, 2 minutes is getting fairly long without a break for the players.

[Insane]
00:22:930 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - kind of overmapped but up to you if you want to change it
00:44:732 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - strange spacing for this combo, try and make the spacing consistent
00:47:872 (3,4,5,6) - jump doesn't really fit
01:29:558 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - increased spacing on this entire combo is hard to follow
01:43:860 (8,1) -confusing place for an anti jump, I would start the pattern somewhere else to fix this

The mapset is nicely put together, I just think insane goes a bit over the top on some places where it doesn't need to (even if it's an insane)
Call me back if you want to make any changes and I can rebubble.
Rare

James2250 wrote:

[Rare's Hard]
-Would be nice if this could include the short break where the other difficulties have it, 2 minutes is getting fairly long without a break for the players. added break time~
thanks :)

Download: NANA - Be_Natural (Short Ver.) (Melophobia) [Rare's Hard].osu
Topic Starter
Melophobia
> James2250
fixed everything, thanks for very helpful mod ^^

also changed some stuff:
00:01:999 - in order to mute sliderslide, changed sumpleset to C1
01:32:697 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - add some claps like 00:20:139 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) -
regenz
(tsuntsun)Nagisachan kawaii
terametis
yeahh
John Zhang
Please rank.
Natteke
RANK THIS PLEASE
terametis

Natteke wrote:

RANK THIS PLEASE
yoshilove
Nice map
Ranked plz
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