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Repflez

Neil Watts wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Template:TemplateOL

{{OL}} for template pages. What do you think about it ?

Included on Orphans template page for testing.
I think that is redundant. {{OL}} can work fine with template pages (correct me if I'm wrong), just specify the link to the translated template and they show on it.

Edit: I found that in the french wiki thread were talking about inconsistency of language names on the wiki. Google Translate didn't told me everything but I got the gist of it. At most cases is better to go with the name that is shown in {{OL}}. Use the English name of the language on places like the language page (/wiki/Spanish, /wiki/Japanese and such) and their specific categories. You can set up a redirect if required for those pages. If you have doubts, feel free to ask here or PM me.
XPJ38

Repflez wrote:

I think that is redundant. {{OL}} can work fine with template pages (correct me if I'm wrong)
It doesn't work with the templates that have the "Name/XX" name structure like Stub/FR. Neil Watts' TemplateOL fixes this, but it doesn't recognize the "XX:Name" templates.
Therefore he proposed on the French thread the idea to make everything uniform by renaming either the XX:Name or Name/XX templates to keep only one name structure. Sounds good since naming is a mess here: some languages tend to mix everything up, like DE which uses "DE:Name" and "Name/DE" for its templates. Was not sure about what to do here though, so I redirected him to you.

Repflez wrote:

Edit: I found that in the french wiki thread were talking about inconsistency of language names on the wiki. Google Translate didn't told me everything but I got the gist of it.
You got it right, and I was only talking about the names of the homepages. Doesn't sound like a tough job, I might do it in the next few days.
Repflez

XPJ38 wrote:

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It doesn't work with the templates that have the "Name/XX" name structure like Stub/FR. Neil Watts' TemplateOL fixes this, but it doesn't recognize the "XX:Name" templates.
Therefore he proposed on the French thread the idea to make everything uniform by renaming either the XX:Name or Name/XX templates to keep only one name structure. Sounds good since naming is a mess here: some languages tend to mix everything up, like DE which uses "DE:Name" and "Name/DE" for its templates. Was not sure about what to do here though, so I redirected him to you.
Oh that. I think that going for Name/XX would be the logical answer for that. I don't remember why the other links were made like that since the first template translations were in the Name/XX structure if I remember correctly. Once the templates are in their naming convention, I'll look into integrating {{TemplateOL}} into {{OL}} without breaking everything in the process.

XPJ38 wrote:

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You got it right, and I was only talking about the names of the homepages. Doesn't sound like a tough job, I might do it in the next few days.
Oh good. I thought that was on almost every translated page instead of just the homepages and since is only in those pages, setting the redirects (some languages have it done already) and adding {{DISPLAYTITLE}} on them should do the work.
Neil Watts
Yeah, I was trying to create a {{OL}} version for templates because of the using of "/FR" suffix on the french template pages, but I didn't noticed that some templates has been named like "XX:Name".
https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Category:Templates

Should we rename all the templates under the structure "XX:Name" (or "Name/XX") ?

Repflez wrote:

I'll look into integrating {{TemplateOL}} into {{OL}} without breaking everything in the process.
It should work if you merge them, effectively.
Repflez

Neil Watts wrote:

Yeah, I was trying to create a {{OL}} version for templates because of the using of "/FR" suffix on the french template pages, but I didn't noticed that some templates has been named like "XX:Name".
https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Category:Templates

Should we rename all the templates under the structure "XX:Name" (or "Name/XX") ?
Name/XX feels more "natural" for your average Wikipedia editor since they use that naming convention too so it should be used like that here.

On an unrelated note, is the wiki slow for everyone else? If I edit anything or just browse in general, the entire wiki doesn't load for several minutes (The connection isn't closed so my browser still thinks that the page is still loading).
Neil Watts
Name/XX feels more "natural" for your average Wikipedia editor since they use that naming convention too so it should be used like that here.
Okay, I'll try to rename some templates and edit the pages which uses them.


On an unrelated note, is the wiki slow for everyone else? If I edit anything or just browse in general, the entire wiki doesn't load for several minutes (The connection isn't closed so my browser still thinks that the page is still loading).
Sometimes, when I edit a page, the wiki takes more than 5 minutes to load, even if I'm not downloading anything else. It happens rarely, though.


Edit: Also, wtf is that
Deimos
Well, I would rather prefer "Template:DE:xxx" instead of using "Template:xxx/DE" so I have all language-specific Template together on one place instead of spreading it on the whole screen.
Repflez

Deimos wrote:

Well, I would rather prefer "Template:DE:xxx" instead of using "Template:xxx/DE" so I have all language-specific Template together on one place instead of spreading it on the whole screen.
Is mostly convenience the use of Name/XX. XX:Name feels more unorganized and hacky while Name/XX is used in most wikis for language versions of their templates.

Neil Watts wrote:

Edit: Also, wtf is that
Page history only gives this user as the one who made the category. Why is there, no one knows.
Repflez
Sorry for the double post but I wanted to ask something:

Are there more templates that add themselves to a category automatically? I need to add the nocat parameter to them. And yes, that Template:Stub/Help thing made me remember about adding the parameter so thanks for that.
deadbeat
you guys wanna give me a hand with something? i want to try improve what's already written in the list of notable people before i go through and add some more people. mind just having a look at what there's and making improvements if you see any. even only going over a few entries would help a lot ;w;
AutoMedic
i think in the list of notable people thing needs more mods


dont put any more players
Repflez

Sonatora wrote:

i think in the list of notable people thing needs more mods


dont put any more players
Mods as in modding or mods as in moderation?

I agree in adding more of both :P
AutoMedic
Moderators


also try to add those noticable BATS


and Mr Color, yes
deadbeat
i'll add more players as i see fit. that won't change any time soon
and if you want more people added, i suggest adding them yourself(HINT HINT), or give me some names and i'll add them to my list i'll never finish
[ Trostal ]

XPJ38 wrote:

Repflez wrote:

I think that is redundant. {{OL}} can work fine with template pages (correct me if I'm wrong)
It doesn't work with the templates that have the "Name/XX" name structure like Stub/FR. Neil Watts' TemplateOL fixes this, but it doesn't recognize the "XX:Name" templates.
Therefore he proposed on the French thread the idea to make everything uniform by renaming either the XX:Name or Name/XX templates to keep only one name structure. Sounds good since naming is a mess here: some languages tend to mix everything up, like DE which uses "DE:Name" and "Name/DE" for its templates. Was not sure about what to do here though, so I redirected him to you.

Repflez wrote:

Edit: I found that in the french wiki thread were talking about inconsistency of language names on the wiki. Google Translate didn't told me everything but I got the gist of it.
You got it right, and I was only talking about the names of the homepages. Doesn't sound like a tough job, I might do it in the next few days.
{{ #if: {{{CODE|}}} | [[LANG:{{{CODE}}}|NAME]] 
| {{#ifexist:LANG:{{PAGENAME}}|[[LANG:{{PAGENAME}}|NAME]] 
| {{#ifexist:{{PAGENAME}}/LANG|[[{{PAGENAME}}/LANG|NAME]] 
|}}
}}

This format of code would support articles named with "Name/XX"
Repflez
@Deimos
Please use redirections and don't mark templates for deletion unless there's no article that uses it. I started deleting them before realizing that there are pages still using it (see recent changes list).

With the slowness of the wiki, is going to be a while before all those templates end as redirection.
Deimos

Repflez wrote:

@Deimos
Please use redirections and don't mark templates for deletion unless there's no article that uses it. I started deleting them before realizing that there are pages still using it (see recent changes list).

With the slowness of the wiki, is going to be a while before all those templates end as redirection.

Sorry for the trouble :( All sites which used the wrong named templates should now be gone.

I used this site as controll: https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/index.php?title ... 0&offset=0
deadbeat
not sure if this is doable, but i want to upload some images to the osu!wiki, and have them hyperlink to a video. in osu! i'd use
[url=http://generic.website.here[/url][img]IMAGE LINK[/img][/url]
but i don't know how to do this on the wiki. anyone know how to, if more importantly, can you?
Deimos

deadbeat wrote:

not sure if this is doable, but i want to upload some images to the osu!wiki, and have them hyperlink to a video. in osu! i'd use
[url=http://generic.website.here[/url][img]IMAGE LINK[/img][/url]
but i don't know how to do this on the wiki. anyone know how to, if more importantly, can you?

[[File:image.png|100px|link=http://youtube.com]]
deadbeat
excellent. thanks for that :D
[Dellirium]
Should we block users for vandalism on wiki (only there, example)? If yes, for how long?
peppy
No, please report this to admins and they will be dealt with at a higher level.
[Dellirium]
Okay, then I have one more question
Can user edit wiki in restricted mode?
Because one could do it some time ago so it is possible to do some harm even in case of ban.
peppy
Not anymore.
[Dellirium]
Everything's fine then!
(exept js in the wiki still not working, hehe)

UPD:

really?
Repflez
A question just in case. Can the wiki be upgraded to at least MediaWiki 1.19? Is mostly to request to install this extension (The other reason is that the current version installed has several vulnerabilities): https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Approved_Revs

It pretty much allows articles to have "approved revisions" which are shown in the article even if there edits in the future. Useful for important articles like Ranking Criterias and tournaments.
deadbeat
[peppy] Wiki codebase update.
i wonder what the update includes ._.
Repflez

deadbeat wrote:

[peppy] Wiki codebase update.
i wonder what the update includes ._.
https://github.com/peppy/osu-mediawiki/ ... f4507fc879

peppy wrote:

Stop restricted users from being able to use the wiki.
[Dellirium]

Repflez wrote:

A question just in case. Can the wiki be upgraded to at least MediaWiki 1.19? Is mostly to request to install this extension (The other reason is that the current version installed has several vulnerabilities): https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Approved_Revs

It pretty much allows articles to have "approved revisions" which are shown in the article even if there edits in the future. Useful for important articles like Ranking Criterias and tournaments.
Or just give administrator rights to all approved users (Admins, BATs, Moderators, etc.) and then lock certain articles.

But updating the wiki is more preferable of course.
Zallius
Some people seem to forget what the purpose of a wiki is.

If we wanted to display information then restrict and lock it, it would be in the form of a news post or forum post.
[Dellirium]
Some articles still shouldn't be open for everyone. [[Rules]], for example.
Repflez

[Dellirium] wrote:

Or just give administrator rights to all approved users (Admins, BATs, Moderators, etc.) and then lock certain articles.
That's more tiring to keep tabs on that on the long run. I'm ok with admins having rights to edit protected articles.

Zallius wrote:

Some people seem to forget what the purpose of a wiki is.

If we wanted to display information then restrict and lock it, it would be in the form of a news post or forum post.
Articles like the rules, the main page and templates that are used everywhere shouldn't be freely editable by everyone because of the disruption it can cause if someone vandalizes those pages, so all of those but the rules are currently locked.

Important articles that are begin used at the moment can be locked for any reasonable reason, like the OWC one that was locked at Loctav's request due to people vandalizing it.

In short, not every article should be editable by everyone. If there's a good reason to lock it (even if temporary), it can be locked.
Nathanael
Question. Is it possible to get the language ID of an article?
For example, I'd like to get "HK" in HK:Standard.
Repflez
Currently not, since they aren't in a real wiki namespace. It's possible to add a substring function to the wiki but is controlled by a setting in the configuration.
Nathanael
I see... I won't request to add it since the idea I'm thinking is not really important.
A translate template for mostly used words like "Names" in tables and such
Chaoslitz
so I think I have to ask here....
If anyone can tell me rather this table can be edited?

I started to add pages for some detailed information in mapping techniques, but I have no idea how different pages can group in this table together :/

Thanks.
hoshisorakiseki

Chaoslitz wrote:

so I think I have to ask here....
If anyone can tell me rather this table can be edited?

I started to add pages for some detailed information in mapping techniques, but I have no idea how different pages can group in this table together :/

Thanks.
http://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Template:MapTechs
{{navboxrow
|title=category(分类)
|list=content(内容)
}}
Chaoslitz

hoshisorakiseki wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Template:MapTechs
{{navboxrow
|title=category(分类)
|list=content(内容)
}}
Thanks for help.
Oni_old_1
I can't make new pages on Chrome? @-@!?
Repflez

Dishonest wrote:

I can't make new pages on Chrome? @-@!?
Any error or something? Making a test page worked without errors.
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