This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Donnerstag, 29. März 2012 at 12:33:45

Artist: P!nk
Title: So What
Tags: Rockstar Pink Funhouse
BPM: 126
Filesize: 3530kb
Play Time: 03:31
Difficulties Available:

1. Easy (2,13 stars, 215 notes)
2. Hard (4,74 stars, 369 notes)
3. Normal (4,15 stars, 300 notes)

Download: P!nk - So What
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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My first map. I just had to try this, because P!nk is so awesome. I had no choice
Hope you like it.

D: why this hasn't got photo?

IRC Mod ~
(some suggestions about sliders, move notes, delete, timing sections)

[Easy]
00:44:209 - Ugly Slider chance it
00:48:019 - ^
01:13:733 - ^
01:58:019 - ^
02:02:067 - Why so many waypoints?!... make a new slider with not so much waypoints
02:58:972 - Ugly slider
03:01:829 - Move that circle to x: 104 y: 236
03:27:068 - Move that circle to x: 220 y: 240
03:27:544 - Move that circle to x: 300 y: 200
03:28:020 - Move that slider to x:388 y: 200
General: Some slider look not really like a nice curve.


[Normal]
First: Dont! overstuck circles in normal!! Seems ugly.!
00:25:479 - Plant a circle
00:25:638 - Plant a slider -> http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/188638
01:12:304 - What the hell? delete it ...
01:16:114 - ^
02:05:638 - Plant a circle
03:33:415 - Delete that
03:05:479 (1,2,3) - Move that so --> http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/188645
General: You have to many waypoints in your slider you can make a slider with only 3 waypoints to a better curve than you have it

[Hard]
Finish It!

[Easy]
Did everything you told

[Normal]
Deleted the three slider and moved the notes at 03:05:479
Didn't Plant that circle and slider at 00:25:479 and 00:25:638, because I didn't understand the reason to plant them.
Didn't plant a circle at 02:05:638, because it's not possible - there ends a slider. Instead I planted a circle at 02:06:114.

[Hard]
I'm doing my best!

[Hard] finished!

General:
- Offset 376 on every diff please. Resnap all notes afterward (timing-> resnap all notes)
- Kiai time has to be the same on every diff to. I recommend adding one from 02:25:137 - 02:55:614 too (every diff).

Easy:
- 01:40:852 (3) - dunno if the slider is rankable like this, cause you cant see which way it goes clearly.
- 02:02:043 (3) - that slider doesnt look so well ^^
- 02:24:662 - 02:41:329 - I believe an almost 15 sec long break is too long even for an easy o.0
- 03:31:806 (1) - make the spinner shorter, let it end at 03:33:353 (1/4).

Normal:
- Oh these sliders ^^" - People will nazi you so much in the future if not going to make them a bit prettier. Try making easier and straight sliders.
- 00:34:661 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - this section is so linear, at least make the spacin between those sliders higher.
- 01:00:693 (1,2,3,4) - stack the first two notes and fix spacing afterwards.
- 01:22:122 (4,5,6,7) - ^
- 01:34:979 (1,2,3,4) - ^
- 01:43:233 (4) - 1 grid to the left.
- 01:43:709 (5,6,7,8) - how about this? http://puu.sh/akO6
- 01:59:741 (1,2,3,4) - ^ http://puu.sh/akOj
- 03:18:471 - 03:27:518 - remove that break-

Second half of that diff looks much better~

Hard:
-Sliders are a much better here, though you need to fix a few.
- 00:17:360 (1,2,3,4) - make that symmetrical please o.0
- 00:44:185 (3) - like in normal, not sure if its rankable :/
- 00:58:471 (2,3,4,5,6) - make the spacing between the slider bigger, like you did on (3,4)
- 01:24:185 (1,2,3) - ugly clustered sliders D:
- 03:23:550 (6) - move to x: 104; y:328

Well I like the song, so I'm going to make a General Mod

General:
- Your BG is 530 x 400 (Unrankable). To be rankable must be 800 x 600 or 1024 x 768 (Ratio 4:3)
- Delete the .osb file in your folder since you don't have a Storyboard and make full submit
- You have to add a Preview Point (To set one, you have to go to Timing --> Set a Current position as a Preview Point). In all diff, I suggest to set a preview point in 00:34:661
- You have to decrease the volume around 15%, because sound to high
- So What it's the title, so remove from Tags
- You must have the same combo colours in your difficulties, so if you have 5 combo colours in a diff, on another diff you must have 5 combo colours

Well this is too general. When you fix that, I'm going to return, to mod the difficulties

From queue:

[Easy]
00:51:328 (5) - NC
00:53:233 (1) - Remove NC
02:02:043 (3) - This should probably be a NC since the slider speed changes.
03:31:804 (1) - This should end at 03:33:233.
Remove unnecessary timing points: 02:41:804, 03:29:899

[Normal]
00:19:423 (1) - Clap on the end.
00:21:328 (5) - Remove clap from first repeat.
00:23:233 (1) - Clap on the end.
02:02:281 (6) - NC, as in Easy.
03:31:804 (1) - Clap on the end.
03:32:518 (2,3) - Players will be expecting this to follow the same rhythm, so I think these should be moved to 03:32:598 and 03:32:756 respectively (then fix spacing).

[Hard]
00:23:709 - Add a note here with a clap, and move the spinner to 00:23:868 (also change the end back to 00:26:566).
02:20:137 (2) - Move this to 02:20:217.
03:32:518 (6) - Move this to 03:32:598 (then fix spacing).

Nice diffs, now map those empty sections!

Thanks Samah, made all the changes you said and mapped on every diff some breaks. I hope it's better now.

00:30:852-00:32:756 (break 1 bar)
00:34:661-01:05:614 (kiai)
01:05:614-01:08:788 (break just under 2 bars)
01:27:995-01:29:899 (break 1 bar)
01:31:814-02:02:122 (kiai)
02:06:090-02:13:709 (break 4 bars)
02:25:137-02:55:614 (kiai)

For the 1 bar breaks, make sure the editor timeline says "Break". If not, click "Insert Break Time".

Here my mod Ylinestra. Sorry for delay

General:
- Move your map to pending beatmaps
- It's a long song, so, you have to consider to add at least long break
- The Audio Lead-In it's still in 1015, adjust manually to 1000 in the .osu notepad
- The Volume is high again, so try to decrease in 15% again
-Breaks: 00:30:852/01:27:995: Those Breaks are too shorts and unnecesary, remove those breaks please
- Kiai Times: The kiai are inconsistent in all difficulties
I suggest that: 2nd kiai must ends in 02:02:280 (In all difficulties)
3rd kiai It's more consistent if starts in 02:25:137 (All difficulties)

Easy:
Overall difficulty: -1
00:10:375 (4): Add a Clap, sounds well and it's more consistent
00:33:233 (2): This Slider looks weird, something like that looks better:
01:10:852 (4): In this case, something like that:
01:37:518 (1): This Slider touch with previous Slider (3), this looks kinda weird, maybe you can move (1) to x:152 y:192. Don't forget to move the next notes to don't have Spacing problems
02:02:042 (T): Don't use the Speed Down/Up in Easy difficulties, is quite difficult to read to new players. Remove the Inherited Point (Green Line) and map always with the same Slider Velocity
02:14:661 (1): Move this note to x:364 y:164 to occupate the same place as previous (4). Don't forget to move the next notes
02:20:377 (4): Unsnapped Note. You have to resnap
03:10:377 (2): (^)
03:31:804 (T): At the beginning of Spinner, add an Inherited point with soft hitsounds and 35% in Volume

Normal:
This difficulty is very Hard to be a Normal diff, since have some streams in 1/3, I'm going to give you some suggestions, but I don't know, maybe you have to rename as Hard
00:43:550 (5): If you listen the music, here the vocal change, so add a New Combo
00:47:360 (6): (^)
I can't mod this difficulty, since it's a Hard

Hard:
Slider Tick Rate in 3 is too much, change to 2
00:23:233 (3,4,5,6): This notes are quite separeted to be 1/3 pattern, I suggest to use (In this place) 1,4 distance Snap. I suggest to put it something like that:
00:28:947 (5): Following the vocal, you have to add a New Combo
00:51:328 (4,1): The distance between this notes is bigger than previous Sliders. Try to add this Slider (1) closer than (4)
00:53:233 (4,1): (^)
01:00:693 (7): A New Combo plays well here
01:18:312 (4,5,6,7): This is very confusing, because the distance between (4,5) is different from (5,6,7), fix that with the Distance Snap
01:27:518 (5): This note must have a Normal Hitifinish
01:39:899 (4): Add a New Combo here
01:47:042 (1,1,1,1,1): In this case the distance is more predictable, try to make the same like that in first part and in the last kiai when you use this pattern
01:59:741 (6): The vocal change here, so you have to add a New Combo
02:27:756 (5,6): This jump is too big, consider to fix that
02:51:169 (5): Here, a New Combo again
03:24:185 (1): This Slider has a lot of repetitions, and it's not a good Idea. Try to delete some repetitions and make another thing
03:31:804 (5): New Combo

Well, I suggest to rename your difficulties to Normal, Hard, Insane; try to make a bit harder your Easy diff. since your Normal looks like a Hard and your Hard looks like an Insane.
If you change the name of difficulties call me back to recheck your Normal (Would be Hard), since I couldn't mod.
Oh, I forgot, if you need help, here the modding queue's link: viewforum.php?f=60, read the rules before to post your map
That's all for now. Good Luck with your map

Thanks for your Mod =)

mancusojuanmattos wrote:

Here my mod Ylinestra. Sorry for delay

General:
- Move your map to pending beatmaps Done
- It's a long song, so, you have to consider to add at least long break Added break from 02:06:090 - 02:20:852
- The Audio Lead-In it's still in 1015, adjust manually to 1000 in the .osu notepad Done
- The Volume is high again, so try to decrease in 15% again Done
- Breaks: 00:30:852/01:27:995: Those Breaks are too shorts and unnecesary, remove those breaks please Done
- Kiai Times: The kiai are inconsistent in all difficulties
I suggest that: 2nd kiai must ends in 02:02:280 (In all difficulties) Done
3rd kiai It's more consistent if starts in 02:25:137 (All difficulties) Done
Easy:
Overall difficulty: -1 Done
00:10:375 (4): Add a Clap, sounds well and it's more consistent Done
00:33:233 (2): This Slider looks weird, something like that looks better:

SPOILER

Done
01:10:852 (4): In this case, something like that:

SPOILER

Done
01:37:518 (1): This Slider touch with previous Slider (3), this looks kinda weird, maybe you can move (1) to x:152 y:192. Don't forget to move the next notes to don't have Spacing problems Done
02:02:042 (T): Don't use the Speed Down/Up in Easy difficulties, is quite difficult to read to new players. Remove the Inherited Point (Green Line) and map always with the same Slider Velocity Deleted that slider and added spinner instead
02:14:661 (1): Move this note to x:364 y:164 to occupate the same place as previous (4). Don't forget to move the next notes Done
02:20:377 (4): Unsnapped Note. You have to resnap Done
03:10:377 (2): (^) Done
03:31:804 (T): At the beginning of Spinner, add an Inherited point with soft hitsounds and 35% in Volume Done

Normal:
This difficulty is very Hard to be a Normal diff, since have some streams in 1/3, I'm going to give you some suggestions, but I don't know, maybe you have to rename as Hard
00:43:550 (5): If you listen the music, here the vocal change, so add a New Combo Done
00:47:360 (6): (^) Done
I can't mod this difficulty, since it's a Hard

Hard:
Slider Tick Rate in 3 is too much, change to 2 Changed from 3 to 1, not to 2, because song is mapped with 1/3, so Slider Tick 2 wouldn't match
00:23:233 (3,4,5,6): This notes are quite separeted to be 1/3 pattern, I suggest to use (In this place) 1,4 distance Snap. I suggest to put it something like that:

SPOILER

Done
00:28:947 (5): Following the vocal, you have to add a New Combo Done
00:51:328 (4,1): The distance between this notes is bigger than previous Sliders. Try to add this Slider (1) closer than (4) Done
00:53:233 (4,1): (^) Done
01:00:693 (7): A New Combo plays well here Done
01:18:312 (4,5,6,7): This is very confusing, because the distance between (4,5) is different from (5,6,7), fix that with the Distance Snap Fixed it, now the distance from the seventh note to the eight is a jump
01:27:518 (5): This note must have a Normal Hitifinish Done
01:39:899 (4): Add a New Combo here Done
01:47:042 (1,1,1,1,1): In this case the distance is more predictable, try to make the same like that in first part and in the last kiai when you use this pattern Left it the way it is
01:59:741 (6): The vocal change here, so you have to add a New Combo Done
02:27:756 (5,6): This jump is too big, consider to fix that Done
02:51:169 (5): Here, a New Combo again Done
03:24:185 (1): This Slider has a lot of repetitions, and it's not a good Idea. Try to delete some repetitions and make another thing Changed to 4 sliders with 1 repetition
03:31:804 (5): New Combo Done

Well, I suggest to rename your difficulties to Normal, Hard, Insane; try to make a bit harder your Easy diff. since your Normal looks like a Hard and your Hard looks like an Insane.
If you change the name of difficulties call me back to recheck your Normal (Would be Hard), since I couldn't mod.
Oh, I forgot, if you need help, here the modding queue's link: viewforum.php?f=60, read the rules before to post your map
That's all for now. Good Luck with your map

Would it be possible only to rename [Normal] to [Hard] and [Hard] to [Insane], and leave [Easy] as it is?

Hi,I mod from modreq~

overall
I think hit sounds are little noisy and using liner slider positeivly and distant snap makes your map better.


Easy
00:39:889(2) 2 grid up
01:10:852(4) the end of slider should be liner following (1,2)
01:22:280(3-6)recheck using distant snap
01:24:185(1) ^
00:34:661(1) add finish the start of slider
01:34:804(1)^
02:25:137(1)^
01:37:518(1) should be liner following (4) is better

Hard
00:23:233(3-6) Distant snap
00:34:661(1) add finish the start of slider
01:31:804(2)^
02:25:137(2)^
01:18:947(8) too far

sorry for my poor English. good luck

Viper's Mod

[Easy]

--> 00:11:328 - Add circle
--> 00:19:423 (1) - Shorten slider to one Reversearrow and add one circle or a slider
--> 00:37:518 - Add circle
--> 00:37:995 (1) - Shorten slider to one Reversearrow and add one circle or a slider
--> 00:41:804 - Add circle
--> 00:50:375 - to 00:50:852 - Think about adding a slider
--> 01:37:519 (1) - Make a not so round top (Mach den oberen Teil spitzer)
--> 01:54:662 (1,2,3) - Change the pattern it could confuse newer players
--> 02:30:852 (1) - I like the slider ;D
--> 02:34:185 (1) - Think of making this into 2 sliders or shorten it and add one circle
--> 02:53:710 (1) - Make it rounder
--> 03:19:899 (3) - same as 02:34:185 (1) -


[Normal]

--> 00:22:280 (7) - Make this slider rounder
--> 00:25:296 (4) - Make it fitting "wanna start" by shortening it and adding a circle like here 00:32:756 (1,2,3) -
--> 02:58:312 - Add circle
--> 03:24:185 (6) - Change this into 2 such "bouncing" sliders


[Hard]

--> 00:19:582 (2) - Clap at the reversearrow
--> 01:16:566 (1) - C-C-C-Combobreaker change it if you think
--> 01:27:995 - Map the "Na Na Na Na Na Na Na"


Hope this can help

Greets Viper

Thanks for your mod

Viper_z4P wrote:

Viper's Mod

[Easy]

--> 00:11:328 - Add circle
--> 00:19:423 (1) - Shorten slider to one Reversearrow and add one circle or a slider
--> 00:37:518 - Add circle
--> 00:37:995 (1) - Shorten slider to one Reversearrow and add one circle or a slider
--> 00:41:804 - Add circle
--> 00:50:375 - to 00:50:852 - Think about adding a slider All up to here: Didn't add circles, because there are no vocals, and didn't shorten the sliders, because I prefer them the way they are
--> 01:37:519 (1) - Make a not so round top (Mach den oberen Teil spitzer) Less round it looks worse
--> 01:54:662 (1,2,3) - Change the pattern it could confuse newer players I think AR is low enough for newer players to recognize it is under the first slider
--> 02:30:852 (1) - I like the slider ;D Thanks
--> 02:34:185 (1) - Think of making this into 2 sliders or shorten it and add one circle Same as before
--> 02:53:710 (1) - Make it rounder Done
--> 03:19:899 (3) - same as 02:34:185 (1) - Same as before


[Normal]

--> 00:22:280 (7) - Make this slider rounder Done
--> 00:25:296 (4) - Make it fitting "wanna start" by shortening it and adding a circle like here 00:32:756 (1,2,3) - Done
--> 02:58:312 - Add circle Refused, because no Vocal
--> 03:24:185 (6) - Change this into 2 such "bouncing" sliders Neither 2 nor 3 fit the sound, and 4 are too much, so left it the way it is


[Hard]

--> 00:19:582 (2) - Clap at the reversearrow There's a clap
--> 01:16:566 (1) - C-C-C-Combobreaker change it if you think Didn't change
--> 01:27:995 - Map the "Na Na Na Na Na Na Na" I didn't map it before the first refrain, so here not, too


Hope this can help

Greets Viper

Here's my mod:

Overall I like the map, hope you finish it soon.

Thanks for the mod =)

MystykAMV wrote:

Here's my mod:

SPOILER

Easy:
00:27:042 - add hit circle Not allowed to put something one beat after spinner in easy
00:30:852 - I would also add something here, because it's too empty like this I want it to be empty
00:37:518 - add hit circle Done
00:51:328 - she starts singing earlier, maybe you could add something, or put the slider earlier? It would take a 1/3 note to fit the "I'm", and I don't wanna do this in easy
00:57:995 - add hit circle or slider Same reason with the spinner
01:02:756 - add hit circle Done
01:27:995 - add spinner It would have to end at 01:29:423, and that's not possible because of the circle at 01:29:899
01:40:852 - you should change the shape of the slider a bit, because it might confuse the players Chaged it, but I guess it doesn't look that good =/
01:52:281 - add hit circle See below
01:52:756 - 01:54:185 - add spinner There's already a spinner, just starts one beat earlier and ends one earlier, because of the slider beginning at 01:54:661
02:41:805 - maybe you should add something before this as well? since she starts singing a little bit earlier Same as at 00:51:328
02:48:471 - add something Not possible, because of the spinner
02:48:947 - ^ Disaggree with it, in the first refrain there isn't a note at that part, too
03:05:614 - ^ Not possible, because of the spinner
03:19:423 - ^ Done
03:20:852 - end repeat slider See below
03:21:328 - add hit circle I would have to change the places of a few notes to add a note there, so no

Of course this is just my opinion, you don't have to listen to me.

Normal:
00:30:852 - add something, it's too empty like this It used to be a break, but it's too short for a real break, so I want it to be empty
00:21:328 - you should maybe lengthen this a little bit? it would fit more to the music Done
01:27:995 - empty again, you should add something Same as before
03:06:804 - the timing of this slider sounds like it's off I'll think about it, but leave it for the moment

Hard:
00:23:233 - you could put these closer to each other maybe Okay, but just because I will remove the spinner and put something there
00:23:868 - remove spinner, add anything else, hit circles, sliders, if it's like this, it looks like you just put it there to fill it up, because you were too lazy to edit it Okay, will do it
00:30:852 - add something, maybe a spinner Done
01:27:995 - ^ Done
03:03:233 - you could use sliders instead of a spinner Used one slider instead
03:04:502 - you should do something with this, because it's hard to follow according to what you sync I deleted it and won't fill it again, beause it won't work with the music
03:05:375 - you could add a new combo here, and do something with what I have written above ^ Problem solved

also, does it really need to be this small? it's okay that it's hard, but maybe you could make the circle size bigger a bit

Overall I like the map, hope you finish it soon.

here we go!

[general]
-

[hard]
Ai mod(ctrl+shift+A): resnap
00:18:947 (7) - add clap
00:26:090 (5) - should be bend smoother IMO
00:36:407 (3) - spacing to big
00:37:042 (4) - ^
00:37:518 (5) - ^
00:39:423 (4) - ^
02:27:995 (6) - ^
02:28:788 (2) - ^
02:51:645 (2) - ^
03:10:852 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - looks more like insane than hard

[normal]
star ratio 4,17 way too high for a normal, not modding this before it is around 3, since i think you're able to trim it down yourself.
could be a hard difficulty

[easy]
easy is fine

that's all!

Nanananaaa nanaaana nanananaaa nana ♪♫

General:

AudioLeadIn: There's an inconsistency between your diffs, please fix it:

- Easy, Normal: 1000.
- Hard: 1015.

Timing sections: I'd use these ones, which are the best for this song imo. The volume you use for each one is up to you:

Easy:

Hearing the music, there's a clap in every 2nd and 4th while line of the TimeLine (e.g.: claps should be in 00:04:661, 00:05:614, 00:06:566, 00:07:518, and so on).
While testing the song, I've missed some of them, as 00:06:090 (4) in the repetition of the slider, 00:17:519 (4) in the repetition of the slider, 00:21:328 (2) at the end of the slider, etc. Please, check all the claps of this diff.

00:23:233 (1) - If you end this spinner in 00:26:090, you'll be able to add a note in 00:27:042 (1), to follow better the lyrics/rhythm.
00:30:375 (4,1) - I feel this part a bit empty... Can you add some notes there?
00:47:995 (4) - You've done a sweet slider, but I think it'll fit better this way:

01:03:233 (1) - It's better to end this spinner in 01:05:375.
01:52:281 (1) - To be honest, this spinner doesn't fit here, plus it's too short for an Easy... so I suggest mapping that part. Or you could've done something similar like the previous Kiai Time (spinner at 00:55:614), which works better.
02:06:328 (x) - How about beginning this Break Time here?
02:21:328 (1) - I'd like this spinner would be from 02:21:090 to 02:23:471, so you could add a note in 02:24:661.
03:24:185 (3,4) - I wish those sliders were symmetrical.

Normal:

I would've tried to avoid sliders like 00:04:185 (1) or 00:21:328 (5) in a Normal diff, due to the huge number of repetitions trying to follow the lyrics. That's prolly the main cause of the high star rating (4.14). But well, they might work fine here.

01:00:693 (1,2,3,4) - The 1st pair of notes are stacked, while the 2nd pair isn't. Can you make those patterns symilar?
01:22:122 (4,5,6,7) - ^
03:19:741 (3,4,5,6) - ^
01:04:661 (4) - That slider must end in 01:05:137 (without the repetition).
01:07:518 (x) - Any reason why this break time should end here?
02:02:281 (1) - This slider would fit better in the Hard, and the spinner you have in Hard is better in this diff.
02:21:328 (1) - As in Easy, this spinner should begin in 02:21:090.
02:43:233 (1) - Remove New Combo, these slider must be in groups of 4.
02:43:709 (2) - New Combo.
02:44:661 (1) - Remove New Combo.
02:45:614 (3) - New Combo.
03:01:328 (1) - Too long imo. It should end in 03:03:233.
03:24:185 (6) - It can be confusing for new players... why don't you halve the repetitions and make it twice longer? (start and end of this slider must be the same).
03:27:677 (1) - It may end in 03:29:899.

Hard:

The only issue I've found is the inconsistency while applying New Combos. Vocal songs tend to be easier to map in this point (every NC should be placed in a new verse/phrase/stanza). There can be exceptions of course (jumps, speed changes, etc), this doesn't have to be "perfect" :p

00:21:328 (5) - New Combo.
00:22:122 (1) - Remove New Combo.
00:23:233 (3) - New combo.
00:39:741 (5) - ^
00:49:899 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Instead of placing 2 pairs of oposite sliders, I'd like to see them pointing "North-East-South-West" (now you have N-S-W-E).
00:57:518 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I personally liked this pattern :3
01:47:042 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - They were better in groups of 4 sliders.
02:21:328 (1) - Again this spinner. Do the same as previous diffs.
03:00:852 (1,2,3) - Nice pattern, but those notes are close to each other =(
03:05:375 (1,2) - ^
03:26:090 (5) - New Combo.


I wish you good luck with it :3

Thank you so much for your mod, Deif, it really helped =)
I'm too lazy to answer every single part, but I made almost everything you said. The only exceptions are The part in [Hard] with that patterns that are too close, and the part at 01:47:042, where I didn't change the groups.