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Ninonuko
509 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Ninonuko
Does it really work tho? I have done it, see my playcount and hitcount, score and playtime ratio,
"pp comes naturally" does work yes, but it's only like once a month.

Edit : by retry I meant clicking that retry button halfway of the map.
I'm still do retry but after I finish the map, not halfway.

If you think I haven't playing enough feel free to say play more and get your +1 I donmai
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Vuelo Eluko
5,484 posts
Joined October 2013
Vuelo Eluko
your hit/play/pp ratio is pretty darn good from where i stand, so idk, stop expecting so much and pls enjoy game
score is utterly irrelevant
E m i
E m i
yeah it works depending on what kind of player you are

so like it should make your plays more useful on average since you end up with more variety, the actual harm that comes with retrying a lot can only happen on the map you're retrying 8-)

xxjesus1412fanx wrote:

stop expecting so much and pls enjoy game
score is utterly irrelevant
repr1se
482 posts
Joined May 2014
repr1se

Ninonuko wrote:

see my playcount and hitcount,
also on your profile

OFFLINE PLAYER, PLAY COUNT IS TOTALLY BULLSHIT.
yes, retry less works, but not in the way you think. it's more about 1) practicing more efficiently and 2) tilting.
1) you don't practice a 400m freestyle and stop and retry halfway through because your kick is out of rhythm. you finish, then practice again. in the same way, not retrying benefits you more than retrying because you practice the entire map, increasing stamina and ironing out your form

2) retrying is done mostly because you want to FC and get some PP. when you retry again and again it shifts the focus from fun and getting better to grinding PP, and i can assure you grinding PP is not fun because every combobreak tilts you more.
pandaBee
2,004 posts
Joined December 2014
pandaBee

repr1se wrote:

Ninonuko wrote:

see my playcount and hitcount,
also on your profile

OFFLINE PLAYER, PLAY COUNT IS TOTALLY BULLSHIT.
EXPOSED.
Dirtiest Osu secrets uncovered.
Ninonuko
509 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Ninonuko

xxjesus1412fanx wrote:

your hit/play/pp ratio is pretty darn good from where i stand, so idk, stop expecting so much and pls enjoy game
score is utterly irrelevant

Momiji wrote:

yeah it works depending on what kind of player you are

so like it should make your plays more useful on average since you end up with more variety, the actual harm that comes with retrying a lot can only happen on the map you're retrying 8-)

xxjesus1412fanx wrote:

stop expecting so much and pls enjoy game
score is utterly irrelevant
Most of my plays are A grade pass, and well... I'm ironically expecting pp play from it, even it happened it'll be non fc pp worth low 200pp or around 190. So yeah my play quality is garbage... maybe.

repr1se wrote:

also on your profile

Quote:
OFFLINE PLAYER, PLAY COUNT IS TOTALLY BULLSHIT.
I don't retry even in offline.

repr1se wrote:

yes, retry less works, but not in the way you think. it's more about 1) practicing more efficiently and 2) tilting.
1) you don't practice a 400m freestyle and stop and retry halfway through because your kick is out of rhythm. you finish, then practice again. in the same way, not retrying benefits you more than retrying because you practice the entire map, increasing stamina and ironing out your form
Yes I done it definitely like that, absolutely never retry unless I'm really not willing to play the map I will just quit and change to other map, most likely happens if I got mind block like I can't read the map properly and constantly miss on the same part.
But most of my plays are A grade pass or 90-93 acc if anything...
I do retry but after I finish the map, not halfway.

repr1se wrote:

2) retrying is done mostly because you want to FC and get some PP. when you retry again and again it shifts the focus from fun and getting better to grinding PP, and i can assure you grinding PP is not fun because every combobreak tilts you more.
definitely true, I don't like it..
ManuelOsuPlayer
1,565 posts
Joined July 2014
ManuelOsuPlayer
The only real way to improve is push yourself.
Railey2
512 posts
Joined February 2015
Railey2

xxjesus1412fanx wrote:

your hit/play/pp ratio is pretty darn good from where i stand, so idk, stop expecting so much and pls enjoy game
He's an offline player


From what I know, Rohulk was the player who popularized the "stop retrying to git gud"-idea. Whether or not it actually works.... well. I don't think that anyone has done a statistical analysis on that topic, so for now I'd put it in the "mere conjecture"-category.


For now, just play however you see fit.
Ninonuko
509 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Ninonuko

pandaBee wrote:

EXPOSED.
Dirtiest Osu secrets uncovered.

ManuelOsuPlayer wrote:

The only real way to improve is push yourself.
yes ofc...

Railey2 wrote:

He's an offline player


From what I know, Rohulk was the player who popularized the "stop retrying to git gud"-idea. Whether or not it actually works.... well. I don't think that anyone has done a statistical analysis on that topic, so for now I'd put it in the "mere conjecture"-category.


For now, just play however you see fit.
I did it in offline too, since the beginning my never retry habit is built by playing in offline mode.
Maybe play quality problem, since I'm kind of player who rarely play fc'able map, the reason is well I'm avoiding panic attack.
Ninonuko
509 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Ninonuko
wait... by retry I meant clicking that retry button halfway of the map.
I'm still do retry but after I finish the map, not halfway.

Edited the op to avoid misunderstanding.
ManuelOsuPlayer
1,565 posts
Joined July 2014
ManuelOsuPlayer

Ninonuko wrote:

wait... by retry I meant clicking that retry button halfway of the map.
I'm still do retry but after I finish the map, not halfway.

Edited the op to avoid misunderstanding.
Retry isn't same as replay. Just test what work for you instead lose the time doing what other says. Maybe Rohulk says retry isn't good. But also Fafis can say retry and master patterns it's the best way to improve (idk just an example). Everyone have his own opinion. Test what work for you instead do what other says and blame it for "lie".
Play a couple weeks retrying the same maps over and over and play other couple weeks without retry. Then you can see where is usefull retry to learn some patterns and get consistence at other ones.
And where you shouldn't to avoid build muscle memory at some maps under your skill making them way hardest to fc than should be for you because you develop some ways to do things what are not the best or natural making you miss at similar patterns also where you don't have any problem before.

You shouldn't think a lot about it anyways. Just do what you think it's right at the moment so you build your own playstyle where you can be better/worst than anyone else at some maps and not a bad copy from other player without even understand the most basic things about their playstyle to make it your own.
pandaBee
2,004 posts
Joined December 2014
pandaBee
retrying burns me out
enjoying game does not
Celine
498 posts
Joined November 2013
Celine
Of course it helps I don't shit out daily 200pp plays by retrying pp dispensers all the time
Just make sure you play all kind of map
N0thingSpecial
2,355 posts
Joined November 2015
N0thingSpecial
It kinda does in a sense that you shouldn’t retry to the point where you burn yourself out
Ninonuko
509 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Ninonuko

pandaBee wrote:

retrying burns me out
enjoying game does not
playing eroge also does not.

-bws wrote:

Of course it helps I don't shit out daily 200pp plays by retrying pp dispensers all the time
Just make sure you play all kind of map
Yes after many hit counts on heavy tap/stream I wonder when will I fc halcyon... let alone fc, A score would make me feel I'm improving.
Many people I know that was used to be bellow my skill level now have been fc'd united and such, I kinda feel left behind tbh.

N0thingSpecial wrote:

It kinda does in a sense that you shouldn’t retry to the point where you burn yourself out
The problem is more like developing bad reading skill I think, happened to me on map like claiomh solais where I consistently get combo break on the jump part. Most of the time I got bad reading or mind block before I got burned out even I never retry halfway.
Tamako Lumisade
204 posts
Joined October 2012
Tamako Lumisade
PP is just a number
ithgyu
468 posts
Joined October 2014
ithgyu
how would g&r know how to get better anyway xDDDDDDDDDDD
Ninonuko
509 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Ninonuko
Dude I have anticipated it... see that spoiler on the op lol.
However I was just wondering does never retry halfway really work because I'm way behind in term of improvement compared to everyone.
ManuelOsuPlayer
1,565 posts
Joined July 2014
ManuelOsuPlayer

ithgyu wrote:

how would g&r know how to get better anyway xDDDDDDDDDDD
Playing more. Kappa.
E m i
E m i

ithgyu wrote:

how would g&r know how to get better anyway xDDDDDDDDDDD
Omg u dummy they always know. They just don't always know that they know
N0thingSpecial
2,355 posts
Joined November 2015
N0thingSpecial

ithgyu wrote:

how would g&r know how to get better anyway xDDDDDDDDDDD
New fag REEEEEEEEEEEEEE come back when you shit posted more xDdddddsddD
pandaBee
2,004 posts
Joined December 2014
pandaBee
Simply epic.
Play more.
abraker
Global Moderator
8,295 posts
Joined July 2014
abraker
if you played 24/7, you would have has 100k pp

because logic

and poor grsmmar
E m i
E m i

abraker wrote:

if you played 24/7, you would have has 100k pp

because logic

and poor grsmmar
grammer*
pandaBee
2,004 posts
Joined December 2014
pandaBee

Momiji wrote:

grammer*
graham* cracker
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