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NoHitter
Or it would be more advantageous for town if I don't claim my role fully.
adam2046
Anyway, although I still think that him fishing for my role was suspicious, I find Mashley and KRZY more suspicious as I think the mafia would perceive Mara as a threat.

NoHItter basically you've already claimed Motivator/Demotivator and I still have no idea what secret crap you're talking about.
Two_old

Two wrote:

You are roleclaiming it yourself and acting cryptic at the same time for no reason
don't try to tell me that you are being needlessly cryptic about being a motivator while at the same time making it obvious to anyone who can read that you are a motivator, with the reason being that you don't want to reveal the details of your role that don't involve motivation

it makes no sense at all
NoHitter
I can Motivate/Demotivate, but I can do something else.
If I claimed Motivator/Demotivator, you would it contradictory what may happen some time later.
On the other hand, if I claimed my role fully, it would be bad for town.

Happy now?
Two_old
no I will be happy when a demotivator who got a guilty result gets lynched
MDuh
I'm not being active in posting here I don not have any constructive thing to say. I may be a nuisance with all the arguments
Right now I'm just lurking and I'm confirming if that one person roleclaim is true
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Actually, to be honest, I don't think being demotivated would be helpful to the one that got targeted at all. Instead of getting a proper result (like, doctor protecting someone), they get a poor result (having the doctor not be able to protect/accidentally kill their target).
Two_old

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

Actually, to be honest, I don't think being demotivated would be helpful to the one that got targeted at all. Instead of getting a proper result (like, doctor protecting someone), they get a poor result (having the doctor not be able to protect/accidentally kill their target).
...............
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
...What? Did I say something wrong again?
Wojjan
this game is bullshit
Vote: NoHItter
this game is bullshit
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
...Oh wait, I did the "DUH, CAPTAIN OBVIOUS" thing again, didn't I?
Two_old
no you did the "talking about something that was never brought up" without quoting what you were responding to thing
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

Two wrote:

was never brought up

NoHItter wrote:

I can Motivate/Demotivate, but I can do something else.
If I claimed Motivator/Demotivator, you would it contradictory what may happen some time later.
On the other hand, if I claimed my role fully, it would be bad for town.

Happy now?
You were saying?
Wojjan
wooooooow anti town roles are bad for you
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
And more stuff that even you wrote:

Two wrote:

no I will be happy when a demotivator who got a guilty result gets lynched
Backfire
Hi, I feel like Nohitter isn't guilty.
Even after the whole mara thing, I'm just not convinced.
Please don't mistake me trying to stick up for him.
I'm just saying at the moment, I feel like we shouldn't completely rely on what Mara says. Like I said, we don't know for sure if he's town completely. We're just going on the fact that he was MAYBE right ONE time.
Wojjan
hi rust hi backfire
Wojjan

Backfire wrote:

Please don't mistake me trying to stick up for him.
oh okay so you're not defending him
okay then voote him I guess
Backfire
Hey. Im in spanish so I got an oppurtunity to post.
Two_old
I'm trying to tell you that no one talked about demotivation being helpful. It's obviously only helpful if you use it on the opposing faction, whatever that may be.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
*cough* You do realize you're talking to an outside player?
Two_old

Backfire wrote:

I'm just saying at the moment, I feel like we shouldn't completely rely on what Mara says. Like I said, we don't know for sure if he's town completely. We're just going on the fact that he was MAYBE right ONE time.
we're going off of what ladysuburu, the host, said
Backfire
Im not defending him but I still don't think he's guilty.
There wouldn't be harm in taking a risk though, I guess...
Vote : NoHitter
I guess voting WOULD seed out mara if he was telling the truth, yeah?
That makes sense.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

Two wrote:

I'm trying to tell you that no one talked about demotivation being helpful. It's obviously only helpful if you use it on the opposing faction, whatever that may be.
He did say he's a motivator/demotivator, which is half-half. (Minus the additional role(s) he may have)

Also, my last post was directed to Backfire.
Backfire
Yes but suburu could be fucking with us.
The whole time this game has been fucking with us, dude.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
LS is known to throw in a bunch of bastard mod stuff at us.
adam2046
There's always the possibility that Mara can get whatever result he wants on a person. I think this is unlikely though because of the result he supposedly got on me which still doesn't make sense to me.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
...He got a result on you?
Two_old
don't forget that this is day 1

the chances of lynching mafia are astronomically low, so why is anyone discounting a guilty result delivered by the host?
adam2046

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

...He got a result on you?

LunaticMara wrote:

WHO IS THIS ADAM AND WHAT HE DOES?

THAT'S A QUESTION WE SHALL SEEK FROM THE GODS!

I SENSE HUGE AMOUNT OF GOOD AURA FROM ADAM, BUT ALSO HORRIBLE, EVIL AURA. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN, CHILDREN?

I NEED TO GET THE AMULET OF LIGHT.
lrn2r
NoHitter

Two wrote:

I'm trying to tell you that no one talked about demotivation being helpful. It's obviously only helpful if you use it on the opposing faction, whatever that may be.
So how exactly is demotivation bad then if it's helpful when I target anti-town?
Plus I also got a motivation, which I used on adam.

Tell me Two (and the rest of you who are voting me) do you really believe that I'm anti-town?
Backfire
Because the result seems too convenient.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

adam2046 wrote:

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

...He got a result on you?

LunaticMara wrote:

WHO IS THIS ADAM AND WHAT HE DOES?

THAT'S A QUESTION WE SHALL SEEK FROM THE GODS!

I SENSE HUGE AMOUNT OF GOOD AURA FROM ADAM, BUT ALSO HORRIBLE, EVIL AURA. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN, CHILDREN?

I NEED TO GET THE AMULET OF LIGHT.
lrn2r
..oh right. You're apparently a flip-flop for him.
NoHitter
Ninja'd
Well, if you really want to believe in a faulty cop result then I can't stop you, but at least let Mara post first.
Remember: It was not Mara who posted it but LS.
Usually the mod never declares the cop result.
Backfire
NoHitter
I stated that I do not think you are anti-town.
But it is in our best interests to take the risk since we were told you were guilty.
Two_old

NoHItter wrote:

Tell me Two (and the rest of you who are voting me) do you really believe that I'm anti-town?
frankly I don't care

a town demotivator can screw over town just as much as mafia can, much like a vigilante

the fact that someone got a guilty result on you just makes it horrible to keep you alive

if we don't lynch you, we are pretty much lynching blind anyway and could get rid of a role much more useful than yours
Backfire
Plus, I'm pretty sure I can't convince them that this game is definatley never going to give us things outright, so I think the whole guilty thing is bullshit.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
The interesting part is the fact that when Salvage died, he flipped "Mafia? Follower" which could mean that he wasn't even a part of the mafia at all.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

Two wrote:

the fact that someone got a guilty result on you just makes it horrible to keep you alive
Not unless they're insane/paranoid, which can be possible.
rust45

Wojjan wrote:

hi rust hi backfire
I was reading thank you.

About Mara's "investigation" on Hitter, he did state earlier that he needed the amulet of light in order to sense "auras" properly. We know he doesn't have the amulet of light so we don't even know if we can trust the investigation. While Hitter being cryptic about his role does bug me, I don't think there's a reason to jump on him unless we have solid evidence on him.

Dammit, I hit preview and now there's way too much to respond to, and if I don't leave now, I'm going to be late. Sorry guys, I'll have to jump back in after school.
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