Chata - Winter Bells [Osu|CatchTheBeat] · forum

lit120

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lit120 2017-11-19T14:38:54+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 8:33:23 PM

Artist: Chata
Title: Winter Bells
Source: しろくまベルスターズ♪
Tags: Shirokuma Bell Stars PULLTOP Grand Ending Theme christmas xmas short ver. eroge -Hakurei- Karia Sinnoh
BPM: 158
Filesize: 7249kb
Play Time: 02:05
Difficulties Available:

Easy (1.56 stars, 143 notes)
Hard (3.13 stars, 344 notes)
Karia120's Bells (5.26 stars, 491 notes)
Karia's Insane (4.48 stars, 405 notes)
Karia's Normal (2.04 stars, 222 notes)
Sinnoh's Platter (2.86 stars, 304 notes)
Sinnoh's Rain (3.72 stars, 364 notes)

Download: Chata - Winter Bells
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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1st xmas map + 1st hybrid set

hitsoudns are made by me

i mapped odds after intro, he mapped evens

Last edited by lit120 2017-12-17T13:33:47+00:00, edited 25 times in total.

Come[Back]Home

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Joined October 2011

Come[Back]Home 2017-11-19T16:55:00+00:00

m4m from your queue

Easy

* 00:19:190 (3) - how about you try to make the sliderend a bit more curvy, just a bit though. something like this https://i.imgur.com/CUTQ1rg.png
* 00:33:190 (2,3) - I somehow think that this looks better imo https://i.imgur.com/I0IL5Ho.png Having something blanket just looks very appealing to the eye
* 01:01:857 (1) - this one looks kinda plain, how about you make it a bit curvy? maybe something like this? https://i.imgur.com/Smh7LwE.png
* 01:21:357 (2) - though there is not actually a beat in the song, a clap on this one would fit tbh. same here 01:26:690 (2) - 01:32:024 (2) -
* 01:46:357 (4) - I'd add a clap on the sliderend here aswell, it somehow fits

Karia's Normal

* 00:31:690 (5) - I'd replace this one by a 1/2 as well, fits good into the song

perfect normal

Hard

* 00:13:861 (1) - I'd move this one too 385/130 so it'll be in line with 00:13:482 (4) - which makes it look better
* 00:38:524 (3,4) - I somehow dislike the stack here, the vocals are not the same. (3) has a lover "voice" while (4) has a higher one, so a stack seems unfitting. How about you move (3) too 139/171 or something like that?
* 01:03:024 (4,5,1,2) - the angle between (4,5,1) and the circle before it is kinda weird and makes it look "strange". How about something like this? https://i.imgur.com/DWpocvJ.png
* 01:04:524 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this is really nice~
* 01:46:357 (3) - i might be wrong, but this one looks like it is touching the hp bar

Karia's Insane

* 00:17:690 (1) - I cant explain why, but I really like it without the nc somehow. same here 00:23:690 (1) -
* 00:37:857 (1,2) - this was really weird to play after and unexpected. how about you move (1) a bit closer to (2) to make the rythm clear?
* 00:55:690 (2) - this one is as high as the hp bar, lower it a bit maybe?
* 01:42:190 (2,3) - this doesnt look good tbh, both sliders dont fit to each other. how about something like this https://i.imgur.com/HzhPwu3.png ?

Karia120's Bells

* 00:18:857 (6,7) - I think the distance here should be lowered because the sound on (6) is not as intense as on (7)
* 00:53:357 (4,5) - I dont really get the high spacing here, really doesnt fit tbh, how about you lower it a bit? the sound on (5) is not intense enough for such spacing imo

cool diff~

good and solid map, really liked it. good luck~

lit120

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Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

lit120 2017-11-19T17:31:19+00:00

Come[Back]Home wrote:
m4m from your queue

Easy

* 00:19:190 (3) - how about you try to make the sliderend a bit more curvy, just a bit though. something like this https://i.imgur.com/CUTQ1rg.png ok
* 00:33:190 (2,3) - I somehow think that this looks better imo https://i.imgur.com/I0IL5Ho.png Having something blanket just looks very appealing to the eye i uhh... wanna keep the way as it is
* 01:01:857 (1) - this one looks kinda plain, how about you make it a bit curvy? maybe something like this? https://i.imgur.com/Smh7LwE.png would like to keep the current one
* 01:21:357 (2) - though there is not actually a beat in the song, a clap on this one would fit tbh. same here 01:26:690 (2) - 01:32:024 (2) - i'd set a clap there if the snare was there on a red tick
* 01:46:357 (4) - I'd add a clap on the sliderend here aswell, it somehow fits this too

Hard

* 00:13:861 (1) - I'd move this one too 385/130 so it'll be in line with 00:13:482 (4) - which makes it look better ruins my pentagon shape
* 00:38:524 (3,4) - I somehow dislike the stack here, the vocals are not the same. (3) has a lover "voice" while (4) has a higher one, so a stack seems unfitting. How about you move (3) too 139/171 or something like that? imo it suits well as the vocal paused there on "i - iyori"
* 01:03:024 (4,5,1,2) - the angle between (4,5,1) and the circle before it is kinda weird and makes it look "strange". How about something like this? https://i.imgur.com/DWpocvJ.png i don't think it's kinda weird for its angle there, as long as flow is what it matters for them to play with =w=
* 01:04:524 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this is really nice~ lol thanks!
* 01:46:357 (3) - i might be wrong, but this one looks like it is touching the hp bar almost, but it won't hurt imo xd

cool diff~

good and solid map, really liked it. good luck~

thanks!

oh, i fixed the tags too

lolia

1,356 posts

Joined May 2012

lolia 2017-11-20T03:30:11+00:00

ComeBackHome

Karia's Normal

* 00:31:690 (5) - I'd replace this one by a 1/2 as well, fits good into the song
perfect normal

Karia's Insane
* 00:17:690 (1) - I cant explain why, but I really like it without the nc somehow. same here 00:23:690 (1) -
* 00:37:857 (1,2) - this was really weird to play after and unexpected. how about you move (1) a bit closer to (2) to make the rythm clear?
* 00:55:690 (2) - this one is as high as the hp bar, lower it a bit maybe?
* 01:42:190 (2,3) - this doesnt look good tbh, both sliders dont fit to each other. how about something like this https://i.imgur.com/HzhPwu3.png ? current shape is cool to me :p

Karia120's Bells
* 00:53:357 (4,5) - I dont really get the high spacing here, really doesnt fit tbh, how about you lower it a bit? the sound on (5) is not intense enough for such spacing imo

cool diff~

good and solid map, really liked it. good luck~

no reply = fixed
thanks!

http://puu.sh/ypGmI/551088edf2.zip

lit120

3,272 posts

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Topic Starter

lit120 2017-11-20T09:57:03+00:00

i forgot to reply this from Bells diff LOL

* 00:18:857 (6,7) - I think the distance here should be lowered because the sound on (6) is not as intense as on (7) done

thanks!

updated karia's

Hanazawa Kana

727 posts

Joined February 2013

Hanazawa Kana 2017-11-20T12:26:59+00:00

M4M from your Q
here's my map:https://osu.ppy.sh/s/684982

love chata,nice song and map

[Karia120's Bells]
00:04:937 (2) - you can reduce ds a little here since there's no strong beat like 00:04:747 (1) -
00:13:102 (3,4,5,6,7) - i think you can make a pattern to show the difference of every sound,such as ds change?
00:21:357 (4,6) - overlaped a little,maybe that looks better? https://puu.sh/ypTFx.png
00:35:357 - you can make it clickable since that's the strongest beat of that part,maybe a 3/4 slider+note or 1/2 slider+note
00:37:524 (2,1) - it feels weird to use a low sv 3/4 slider with a large ds note,maybe you can reduce the ds a bit, or just large the sv
00:39:024 (7) - i suggest to place it like that,use a higher ds to show a higher tune also better the flow
00:49:190 (3,4) - i guess you can place like that,to show the difference with 00:49:690 (5,1) - ,also i saw that you seldom use stack to follow the voice so...https://puu.sh/ypTXa.png
01:03:024 (6,7,1) - you can use something to show the high tune voice like anti-flow
01:41:524 (3,4,5,6,1) - i suggest to rotate it a little like that https://puu.sh/ypU7I.png,better the flow
01:49:690 (3,1) - suggest to lower the ds because i think you want to stress more of voice

[Karia's Insane]
nice map
00:45:857 (1,2) - easy to misread,you can make that two overlap a little or stack to avoid it
00:53:357 (4) - make it a bit special like that https://puu.sh/ypUlH.png?it's quite strong voice.
01:17:690 (4,1) - you can large the ds to show the voice,for example https://puu.sh/ypUr2.png

[Hard]
01:17:190 (3,4,5,6,1) - is that overlap too hard for hard?

[Karia's Normal]
00:31:690 (5,6) - a little strange rhythm,i suggest to place like that https://puu.sh/ypUEC.png
00:56:857 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - weird rhythm here,you followed 00:57:857 - and igonred 00:58:357 - ,my suggestion is that https://puu.sh/ypUGq.png

good luck with ranking!

lit120

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Topic Starter

lit120 2017-11-20T13:49:57+00:00

Hanazawa Kana wrote:
M4M from your Q
here's my map:https://osu.ppy.sh/s/684982

love chata,nice song and map

[Karia120's Bells]
00:04:937 (2) - you can reduce ds a little here since there's no strong beat like 00:04:747 (1) - would like to keep the way as it is for its pattern
00:13:102 (3,4,5,6,7) - i think you can make a pattern to show the difference of every sound,such as ds change? uh no. think this spacing and its pattern is enough
00:21:357 (4,6) - overlaped a little,maybe that looks better? https://puu.sh/ypTFx.png changed to sth else
00:35:357 - you can make it clickable since that's the strongest beat of that part,maybe a 3/4 slider+note or 1/2 slider+note ok
00:37:524 (2,1) - it feels weird to use a low sv 3/4 slider with a large ds note,maybe you can reduce the ds a bit, or just large the sv it's not even fitable for me to set such fast speed for this slider, since it's something like a start before the vocal's emphasize and its downbeat
01:03:024 (6,7,1) - you can use something to show the high tune voice like anti-flow nooo, i wanna make it flowable
01:49:690 (3,1) - suggest to lower the ds because i think you want to stress more of voice but it fits well for its vocal's emphasize and the downbeat from (1) .-.

[Hard]
01:17:190 (3,4,5,6,1) - is that overlap too hard for hard? maybe not imo

good luck with ranking!

thanks!

lolia

1,356 posts

Joined May 2012

lolia 2017-11-20T14:44:14+00:00

Hanazawa Kana

[Karia120's Bells]
00:39:024 (7) - i suggest to place it like that,use a higher ds to show a higher tune also better the flow not too high tone imo
00:49:190 (3,4) - i guess you can place like that,to show the difference with 00:49:690 (5,1) - ,also i saw that you seldom use stack to follow the voice so...https://puu.sh/ypTXa.png
01:41:524 (3,4,5,6,1) - i suggest to rotate it a little like that https://puu.sh/ypU7I.png,better the flow current flow is also good imo, and I prefer current flow personally

[Karia's Insane]
nice map
00:45:857 (1,2) - easy to misread,you can make that two overlap a little or stack to avoid it I used same pattern as this on 00:40:524 (1,2) - here. So I think not too hard to read :3
00:53:357 (4) - make it a bit special like that https://puu.sh/ypUlH.png?it's quite strong voice. gave spacing more instead
01:17:690 (4,1) - you can large the ds to show the voice,for example https://puu.sh/ypUr2.png

[Karia's Normal]
00:31:690 (5,6) - a little strange rhythm,i suggest to place like that https://puu.sh/ypUEC.png
00:56:857 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - weird rhythm here,you followed 00:57:857 - and igonred 00:58:357 - ,my suggestion is that https://puu.sh/ypUGq.png

good luck with ranking!

no reply = fixed
thanks!

http://puu.sh/ypYn8/bf2a4a30a7.zip

lit120

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Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

lit120 2017-11-20T15:23:55+00:00

updated karia's

Dashyy-

752 posts

Joined May 2015

Dashyy- 2017-11-22T00:35:00+00:00

q

ez:
00:30:524 (2) - keep consistent with 00:27:857 (2,3) - in rhythm cuz ur missing important sounds on red tick zz
00:34:524 (3) - use this rhythm to emphasize downbeat on 00:35:024 (3) - better
01:24:524 (3) - add a 1/1 break here since sliderend isn't as important

nm:
00:15:857 (1) - could add circle there for vocal emphasis
00:19:190 (5) - would suggest ncing this cuz more important than 00:20:357 (1) -
00:21:857 (1,2,3) - unexpected 3/2 rhythms on lower diffs is pretty hard for newer players. my best solutionwas to use this but you could probably find a better one lol
01:57:190 (5) - u should use a pattern like 00:18:857 (4,5) - to make downbeat clickable cuz no click = bad

hd:
in the beginning, u should add a lower slider multiplier here to show it's a calmer section and to slightly nerf
00:18:357 (3,4,5) - rhythm here is weird, use this to emphasize those hold trumpet sound thingies
00:22:690 (3) - ending sliders on downbeats reeeeeee
01:56:190 (5,6) - 01:57:524 (3,4) - 01:58:857 (5,6) - make these all sliders since trumpet sound calls for it and red tick isn't important enough for a circle

in:
00:19:190 (3) - 00:21:524 (2,3) - might wanna show that's it's a 1/4 jump more clearly with lower spacing cuz 00:16:024 (2,3,4) - makes me think it's 1/2
00:36:690 (2) - why is the spacing lower here than the other 1/4s in this section 00:27:190 (1,2) - 00:29:857 (1,2) - 00:32:524 (1,2) -
00:40:857 (1) - ctrl+g this to show it's a 1/1 gap
00:53:024 (3,4) - the flow break here feels random. if u want to keep first slider then ctrl+g second slider
01:09:524 (4,5) - more 1/4 spacing inconsistencies with 00:42:857 (5,1) - 00:48:190 (5,1) -
01:59:440 (3,4) - fix stack

bells:
spacing in the beginning is big considering how calm the song is. would suggest using something like 00:06:266 (1,2) - 's spacing. if ur not gonna change spacing at least fix some inconsistencies with it such as 00:01:709 (1,2) - being big and 00:06:266 (1,2) - being small yet both are representing the same sound
00:05:507 (4) - what r u trying to follow here lol. you switch from following organs in the background but then suddenly switch to following bells like 00:05:507 (4) - and the 2 measures from 00:07:785 (1) - to 00:10:634 (4) - . focus on either one or the other to make it more consistent
00:19:190 (1) - make this a 1/1 sider since you did it here 00:16:524 (1) - on a held vocal

Last edited by Dashyy- 2017-11-22T02:15:05+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

J1_

104 posts

Joined February 2015

J1_ 2017-11-22T01:58:17+00:00

Heyo from my mod queue,

No need to give me kudos for this one, all I found was maybe 02:00:190 (3) - NC on Karia120's Bells.
Other then that, perfect~~~

Good luck!

Grrum

886 posts

Joined November 2011

Grrum 2017-11-22T05:24:42+00:00

Hi. Here from Christmas Queue. Hope this finds you well!

[Easy]

01:04:524 (1,2,3) – (2) is a bit close to the other two, can you move them apart a bit to get 1.10x spacing

01:20:524 (1,2,3) – Not having special hitsounds here took me out of the map. It'd be really nice to have something here to not feel empty. I would like it if you added a whistle to go with the vocals throughout the kiai since that is what you are going with in the map. It's possible to create a custom normal-hitwhistle and use it as an addition for convenience since I doubt new players are going to turn off custom hitsounds.

01:49:857 (1,2) – This would look nicer if (2) was symmetric or in a circle with the tail end of (1) like this

[Karia's Normal]

01:33:857 (1,2) – I like making these symmetric by rotating each slider by 5 degrees like so

[Hard]

00:45:690 (1,2) – and 01:08:357 (1,3) – One is symmetric while the other isn't. Why the difference in aesthetics?

01:01:857 (1,3,4,5,1) – Due to auto-stacking, (4) looks pretty cramped next to the first (1) slider. Also, the distance to the triple is a bit higher than normal. Try manually moving this so that (4) is where the second (1) is.

01:33:857 (1,2,3) – auto-stacking causes the spacing to be a bit closer than I'd like.
01:34:524 (3,4,1) - ^
01:43:690 (3,4,5,6) - ^ and others

[Karia's Insane]

00:23:690 (3,1,1,1,1) – Nice jo b with these sliders

00:28:024 (4,6) – This was hard to read, and I don't think that helped the map. I felt that 00:58:357 (3,2) – was way more satisfactory to play because the non-perfect stack removed any complexity in the intentions of the map and just let me play it, so I totally understood the pattern more.
01:43:690 (3,5) – consider other places like this one

00:36:857 (3,4,1,2) – (1,2) has the same motion as the (3,4). Why? These feel different because they are different instruments. I don't like comparing them with the same flow, and I want to express the difference in sound by moving differently.

[Karia120's Bells]

00:18:857 (6) – This big spacing into this note confused me. I really identified big spacing with the instrument at 00:17:690 (1) – (I don't know the name of it, so I'll call it a synth). As a result, the emphasis on this (6) note broke that expectation. Consider making this spacing a bit smaller to allow for some contrast between the two sounds.

00:30:857 (5,1) – The DS here is pretty small for a downbeat. I didn't enjoy underplaying this strong trumpet at the (1) note. Part of the issue is that 00:30:690 (4,5) – is so much stronger relative to the (5,1) spacing.
00:33:524 (5,1) – happens here too, maybe check a few others if you agree

01:12:524 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) – This is subjective, but I feel strongly enough to say it. The vocals are changing here. While the DS changes, the motion of the pattern doesn't. I really wish it did because motion is its own independent feeling. I wanted to express the vocals differently in some way, so try doing a different flow somewhere to provide contrast. For example, try doing ctrl + G on 01:13:857 (1) – and 01:14:524 (1) -

01:19:524 (2) – The spacing combined with the stacks got me kind of fatigued here and needing a break, and I kind of expected one since these strong brass notes stopped. I don't disagree with the rhythm, but I think making the DS between 01:19:524 (2,3) – be smaller would help transition into a new instrument more intuitively.

01:27:524 (2,4) – The perfect stack was hard to read

01:52:357 (6,1) – This flow was awkward. I expected (1) to be counter clockwise and pointing the other way, so consider ctrl + H. If you want to keep that direction, consider putting (1) at ~412, 112 to make the flow less forceful.

Nice mapset, have a star. Good luck!

lit120

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Topic Starter

lit120 2017-11-22T12:39:46+00:00

Dashyy- wrote:
q

ez:
00:30:524 (2) - keep consistent with 00:27:857 (2,3) - in rhythm cuz ur missing important sounds on red tick zz consistency isn't my thing here. plus, i was following that synth sound there, not a trumpet
00:34:524 (3) - use this rhythm to emphasize downbeat on 00:35:024 (3) - better i'd like to keep this instead for avoiding more confusion since i did that on 00:36:357 (2) - after it
01:24:524 (3) - add a 1/1 break here since sliderend isn't as important why would i want to make it as 1/1 break since i was following a vocal back up there?

hd:
in the beginning, u should add a lower slider multiplier here to show it's a calmer section and to slightly nerf uh no thanks
00:18:357 (3,4,5) - rhythm here is weird, use this to emphasize those hold trumpet sound thingies i was focusing on vocals here
00:22:690 (3) - ending sliders on downbeats reeeeeee ^
01:56:190 (5,6) - 01:57:524 (3,4) - 01:58:857 (5,6) - make these all sliders since trumpet sound calls for it and red tick isn't important enough for a circle "not important", hmm... i wanna make the drums clickable there instead for its outro part to make it a bit harder

bells:
spacing in the beginning is big considering how calm the song is. would suggest using something like 00:06:266 (1,2) - 's spacing. if ur not gonna change spacing at least fix some inconsistencies with it such as 00:01:709 (1,2) - being big and 00:06:266 (1,2) - being small yet both are representing the same sound consistency isn't my thing on this part since this is an repetitive note based on its rhythm, so it's not quite a big deal imo
00:05:507 (4) - what r u trying to follow here lol. you switch from following organs in the background but then suddenly switch to following bells like 00:05:507 (4) - and the 2 measures from 00:07:785 (1) - to 00:10:634 (4) - . focus on either one or the other to make it more consistent i just said that
00:19:190 (1) - make this a 1/1 sider since you did it here 00:16:524 (1) - on a held vocal i prefer a pause

xJ1 wrote:
Heyo from my mod queue,

No need to give me kudos for this one, all I found was maybe 02:00:190 (3) - NC on Karia120's Bells. imo they'll notice this
Other then that, perfect~~~

Good luck!

pinataman wrote:

Hi. Here from Christmas Queue. Hope this finds you well!

[Easy]

01:04:524 (1,2,3) – (2) is a bit close to the other two, can you move them apart a bit to get 1.10x spacing i think it is equals to 1.1x if u estimate it. plus it was supposed to be a triangle pattern that equals with 01:01:857 (1,2,1) -

01:20:524 (1,2,3) – Not having special hitsounds here took me out of the map. It'd be really nice to have something here to not feel empty. I would like it if you added a whistle to go with the vocals throughout the kiai since that is what you are going with in the map. It's possible to create a custom normal-hitwhistle and use it as an addition for convenience since I doubt new players are going to turn off custom hitsounds. uh, not even my intentional at first though, since i prefer an instrument better

01:49:857 (1,2) – This would look nicer if (2) was symmetric or in a circle with the tail end of (1) like this uh, would like to keep this one instead sadly

[Hard]

00:45:690 (1,2) – and 01:08:357 (1,3) – One is symmetric while the other isn't. Why the difference in aesthetics? cuz why not?

01:01:857 (1,3,4,5,1) – Due to auto-stacking, (4) looks pretty cramped next to the first (1) slider. Also, the distance to the triple is a bit higher than normal. Try manually moving this so that (4) is where the second (1) is. i'd like to keep this for a while, but i'll see how this goes

01:33:857 (1,2,3) – auto-stacking causes the spacing to be a bit closer than I'd like.
01:34:524 (3,4,1) - ^
01:43:690 (3,4,5,6) - ^ and others DSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Karia120's Bells]

00:18:857 (6) – This big spacing into this note confused me. I really identified big spacing with the instrument at 00:17:690 (1) – (I don't know the name of it, so I'll call it a synth). As a result, the emphasis on this (6) note broke that expectation. Consider making this spacing a bit smaller to allow for some contrast between the two sounds. it's noticeable by the trumpet there

00:30:857 (5,1) – The DS here is pretty small for a downbeat. I didn't enjoy underplaying this strong trumpet at the (1) note. Part of the issue is that 00:30:690 (4,5) – is so much stronger relative to the (5,1) spacing.
00:33:524 (5,1) – happens here too, maybe check a few others if you agree this time for this part after the intro, you could say that the trumpets are weak imo, idk

01:12:524 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) – This is subjective, but I feel strongly enough to say it. The vocals are changing here. While the DS changes, the motion of the pattern doesn't. I really wish it did because motion is its own independent feeling. I wanted to express the vocals differently in some way, so try doing a different flow somewhere to provide contrast. For example, try doing ctrl + G on 01:13:857 (1) – and 01:14:524 (1) - let's try this for a while and see how this goes

01:19:524 (2) – The spacing combined with the stacks got me kind of fatigued here and needing a break, and I kind of expected one since these strong brass notes stopped. I don't disagree with the rhythm, but I think making the DS between 01:19:524 (2,3) – be smaller would help transition into a new instrument more intuitively. i think the spacing there is fine from (2) to (3), as long as i didn't make the distance more further

01:52:357 (6,1) – This flow was awkward. I expected (1) to be counter clockwise and pointing the other way, so consider ctrl + H. If you want to keep that direction, consider putting (1) at ~412, 112 to make the flow less forceful. not rly awkward for me since i've observed some plays from others

Nice mapset, have a star. Good luck!

thanks!

lolia

1,356 posts

Joined May 2012

lolia 2017-11-22T14:03:00+00:00

Dashyy-

nm:
00:15:857 (1) - could add circle there for vocal emphasis I didn't want that in lower diff cuz here is really calm although some vocals are there.
00:19:190 (5) - would suggest ncing this cuz more important than 00:20:357 (1) - I added NC following patterns. So I want to keep cuz 00:20:357 (1) - this is start of pattern
00:21:857 (1,2,3) - unexpected 3/2 rhythms on lower diffs is pretty hard for newer players. my best solutionwas to use this but you could probably find a better one lol well, current rhythm is better cuz clickable objects are on only strong beats. And the reason that I chose 3/2 slider is the vocal on 1/2 tick was stronger than on 1/1 tick.
01:57:190 (5) - u should use a pattern like 00:18:857 (4,5) - to make downbeat clickable cuz no click = bad downbeat isn't on here :3

in:
00:19:190 (3) - 00:21:524 (2,3) - might wanna show that's it's a 1/4 jump more clearly with lower spacing cuz 00:16:024 (2,3,4) - makes me think it's 1/2 it's not too hard to read imo cuz length of slider (2) isn't same as (1)
00:36:690 (2) - why is the spacing lower here than the other 1/4s in this section 00:27:190 (1,2) - 00:29:857 (1,2) - 00:32:524 (1,2) -
00:40:857 (1) - ctrl+g this to show it's a 1/1 gap I want current pattern for music
00:53:024 (3,4) - the flow break here feels random. if u want to keep first slider then ctrl+g second slider keep cuz I felt 00:53:357 - this vocal is special
01:09:524 (4,5) - more 1/4 spacing inconsistencies with 00:42:857 (5,1) - 00:48:190 (5,1) - well, there's no reason that they should have same spacing. Here is different part from 00:42:857 (5,1) - 00:48:190 (5,1) - here.
01:59:440 (3,4) - fix stack

pinataman

[Karia's Normal]
01:33:857 (1,2) – I like making these symmetric by rotating each slider by 5 degrees like so personally I don't prefer perfect symmetric much as you said xP

[Karia's Insane]
00:23:690 (3,1,1,1,1) – Nice job with these sliders =w=
00:28:024 (4,6) – This was hard to read, and I don't think that helped the map. I felt that 00:58:357 (3,2) – was way more satisfactory to play because the non-perfect stack removed any complexity in the intentions of the map and just let me play it, so I totally understood the pattern more.
01:43:690 (3,5) – consider other places like this one personally I think that reading perfect stack is one of important skill as player and that skills should be required from Insane, as a bridge between Hard and Extra. So it's fine imo xd
00:36:857 (3,4,1,2) – (1,2) has the same motion as the (3,4). Why? These feel different because they are different instruments. I don't like comparing them with the same flow, and I want to express the difference in sound by moving differently.

[Karia120's Bells]
01:27:524 (2,4) – The perfect stack was hard to read Same as Insane w

no reply = fixed
thanks!

http://puu.sh/yrk0t/1c025f9a1e.zip

lit120

3,272 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

lit120 2017-11-22T14:05:38+00:00

updated karia's

-Keitaro

1,023 posts

Joined October 2013

-Keitaro 2017-11-25T12:55:32+00:00

hi

[Bells]
00:05:127 (3) - I wonder why this one isn't high spaced? the sound here isn't really that low for a small spacing, especially if its compared with the other same sounds like 00:01:709 (1,2,3,4) - , 00:03:228 (1,2,3,4) -
00:13:861 (7) - this sounds more stronger then before, I would suggest to move it a bit more far to emphasize the sound, it's up to you tho. Also NC please?
00:22:357 (2,3) - 1,58x spacing is a little bit too high, eh?
00:45:857 (1,2) - swap NC, since the stronger sound is in (2) (why am I mentioning this)
00:49:357 (4,5) - uhh, an anti flow and huge spacing, don't really sure about this, I felt like the jump should be in 00:49:857 (1) - since you don't seems to follow the vocal here, also the stronger sound is in (1)

[Insane]
00:27:524 (2,5) - tbh I think this isn't aesthetic-wise.. mind to move (5) or change (2) body?
00:29:190 (3,4,5) - this one seems to be inconsistent with the other parts..

[Hard]
01:59:024 (6,2) - is this overlap intended?

nice set, gl :3
no kds if this isn't helpful :d

EDIT:

Incase metadata peeps asking

ultra HD 720p image

lolia

1,356 posts

Joined May 2012

lolia 2017-11-25T16:35:14+00:00

Error-

hi
[Bells]
00:45:857 (1,2) - swap NC, since the stronger sound is in (2) (why am I mentioning this)
00:49:357 (4,5) - uhh, an anti flow and huge spacing, don't really sure about this, I felt like the jump should be in 00:49:857 (1) - since you don't seems to follow the vocal here, also the stronger sound is in (1) I followed vocal as well. Spacing is also not huge cuz you haven't to follow (4) to the end

[Insane]
00:27:524 (2,5) - tbh I think this isn't aesthetic-wise.. mind to move (5) or change (2) body?
00:29:190 (3,4,5) - this one seems to be inconsistent with the other parts.. this is consistent

nice set, gl :3
no kds if this isn't helpful :d

no reply = fixed
thanks!

http://puu.sh/ytkfe/b186804c73.zip

lit120

3,272 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

lit120 2017-11-26T12:30:03+00:00

Error- wrote:
hi

[Bells]
00:05:127 (3) - I wonder why this one isn't high spaced? the sound here isn't really that low for a small spacing, especially if its compared with the other same sounds like 00:01:709 (1,2,3,4) - , 00:03:228 (1,2,3,4) - doesn't have to be the same, right?
00:13:861 (7) - this sounds more stronger then before, I would suggest to move it a bit more far to emphasize the sound, it's up to you tho. Also NC please? i'd like to keep the pattern for this, but ok for the NC
00:22:357 (2,3) - 1,58x spacing is a little bit too high, eh? yep, but it's also intentional

[Hard]
01:59:024 (6,2) - is this overlap intended? DS' view stuff, so ya

nice set, gl :3
no kds if this isn't helpful :d

EDIT:
Incase metadata peeps asking

ultra HD 720p image

thanks!

updated karia's

lit120

3,272 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

lit120 2017-12-09T10:55:10+00:00

uploaded Sinnoh's Rain

1st hybrid set hmm

Gamu

Elite Mapper

2,606 posts

Joined December 2010

Gamu 2017-12-09T12:50:32+00:00

Hello!

[

General]

00:01:709~00:13:956 - I'd like to recommend that you change to the silent sound instead of default sound in soft-sliderslide. It is a good idea to copy soft-sliderslide and add soft-sliderslide2.

[

Easy]

01:30:524 (3) - I feel this sound is strange. soft-hitwhislte would be good as usual.
01:57:190 (3) - drum-hitfinish is better than drum-hitclap. You are using drum-hitfinish in 00:18:357 (2) and 00:26:524 (3) and 01:59:857 (3), also the sound of the song resembles it.

[

Karia's Normal]

00:37:357 - I'd like to recommend that you add the 1/2 slider here. It fits the song very well and it is not a difficult rhythm in Normal.
00:51:690 - Add the circle here to follow vocal.
01:01:190 (3) - It is better to add soft-hitwhistle at the start point. It can be custom sound or default sound.
01:06:524 (3) - ^
01:30:524 (5) - I feel this sound is strange. soft-hitwhislte would be good as usual.
01:57:190 (5) - drum-hitfinish is better than drum-hitclap. You are using drum-hitfinish in 02:00:190 (7), also the sound of the song resembles it.

[

Hard]

Trun off the Widescreen Support. That is an unnecessary function.

[

Karia's Insane]

fine~

[

Karia120's Bells]

nice diff o3o

nice mapset <3
Star~

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

1,962 posts

Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2017-12-09T15:01:06+00:00

benny wanted a platter

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osu file format v14

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lit120

3,272 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

lit120 2017-12-09T15:04:12+00:00

uploaded Platter

Gamu wrote:
Hello!
note: hitsounds are made by me for all of them

[ General]
00:01:709~00:13:956 - I'd like to recommend that you change to the silent sound instead of default sound in soft-sliderslide. It is a good idea to copy soft-sliderslide and add soft-sliderslide2. ay then xd

[ Easy]
01:30:524 (3) - I feel this sound is strange. soft-hitwhislte would be good as usual. applied to all diffs that i hitsounded
01:57:190 (3) - drum-hitfinish is better than drum-hitclap. You are using drum-hitfinish in 00:18:357 (2) and 00:26:524 (3) and 01:59:857 (3), also the sound of the song resembles it. same

[ Karia's Normal]
00:37:357 - I'd like to recommend that you add the 1/2 slider here. It fits the song very well and it is not a difficult rhythm in Normal.
00:51:690 - Add the circle here to follow vocal.
01:01:190 (3) - It is better to add soft-hitwhistle at the start point. It can be custom sound or default sound. wasn't my intentional to start with at first sadly
01:06:524 (3) - ^ ^
01:30:524 (5) - I feel this sound is strange. soft-hitwhislte would be good as usual. done
01:57:190 (5) - drum-hitfinish is better than drum-hitclap. You are using drum-hitfinish in 02:00:190 (7), also the sound of the song resembles it. did it

[ Hard]
Trun off the Widescreen Support. That is an unnecessary function. woops

[ Karia120's Bells]
nice diff o3o thanks! =w=

nice mapset <3
Star~

thanks for stars btw wwwwwww

lolia

1,356 posts

Joined May 2012

lolia 2017-12-09T15:22:22+00:00

@Gamu : fixed all, thanks!

SPOILER

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: winter bell.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 79774
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.4
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 1520,1709,16524,37857,59190,80524,101857,120524,128524
DistanceSpacing: 0.8
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Winter Bells
TitleUnicode:Winter Bells♪
Artist:Chata
ArtistUnicode:茶太
Creator:lit120
Version:Karia's Normal
Source:しろくまベルスターズ♪
Tags:Shirokuma Bell Stars PULLTOP Grand Ending Theme christmas xmas short ver. eroge -Hakurei- Karia Sinnoh
BeatmapID:1474613
BeatmapSetID:696064

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:4
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:1.1
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"bg.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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lit120

3,272 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

lit120 2017-12-09T15:45:18+00:00

updated karia's normal + fixed hitsound stuff on his diff

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-12-09T16:53:17+00:00

Hi, Circlejerking with ~~Sinnoh~~ Benny

Easy

00:21:857 (1) - don't end this on a non existent beat. End it on a strong sound like all your other sliders in the section
00:30:524 (2) - 3/2 reverse slider. The red tick is way more dominant
00:49:190 (2) - hitsound reverse
01:01:857 (1) - I recommend a 2/1 slider + circle here. To increase the circle to slider ratio as well as the fact that when you extend the slider slider to long it can throw noobs off their metronome. A 2/1 slider would be long enough to portray the held vocals.
01:07:190 (1,2,3) - Same rhythm as above would be nice. Your bojects would be hitsound appropriately this way and be much easily to follow as well as good consistency between rhythms
01:15:857 (2,3) - rhythm suggestion for better flow ~ https://i.imgur.com/rfqComo.png
01:18:524 (2,3) - I'm a bit puzzled as to why you used this rhythm in particular and didn't have a 01:18:524 (2) mapped as a 3/2 reverse slider. You mapped the rest of the diff to avoid breaking polarity but didn't here when it is easily avoidable. It does make me wonder why
01:19:857 (4) - Deleting or replacing this a circle (but I like deleting better) would give players a nice small break before the kiai.
01:20:524 (1,2,3) - If you're going to map to the vocals here like this then please hitsound your rhythms so they match
01:25:857 (1,2,3) - same as above
01:31:190 (1,2,3) - ^
01:36:524 (1,2,3) - ^
01:24:524 (3) - missing whistle on reverse
01:30:524 (3) - because this is the midday way point of the chorus just before it picks up again it would be nice here to have 2 circles for a bit of variety. 1/1 sliders are get really monotonous due to how much you use them in this diff. Also it would help to increase the circle to slider ratio which is quite lacking in this diff
01:40:190 (2,3) - I can't really follow this rhythm, it doesn't feel natural at all. With the layer you're mapping having this beat 01:40:690 mapped should have more priority over 01:40:857 . Maybe something like this https://i.imgur.com/KOrhdaD.png idk tbh but you're way just doesn't feel right whenollowing the song
01:43:690 (4) - whistle on head. same for 01:46:357 (4) -
01:49:857 (1,1) - same as 01:01:857 (1)
01:57:190 (3) - another good place to map 2 circles to increase circle to slider ratio
02:00:524 (4) - An NC here would give players more hp before the final spinner. The spinner is really long and you know how much noobs suck at spinners
02:00:690 (1) - Might be worthwhile ending the spinner at 02:05:857 tbh. The long spinner isn't all too beginner friendly. You don't have to worry about ending your diffs in the exact same place as the higher diffs as this would still make sense and I deem it to be appriopriate

Normal

00:45:857 (6) - I really don't recommend placing a circle here. There's no sound here at all
00:50:524 (5) - 2 circles would be nice here. There are 2 different vocal notes on the head and tail
00:53:357 (6) - This would flow better if it were a circle ~
00:51:690 (2) - A bit weird imo that you didn't map to the vocals here when you did with 00:51:190 (1) - . How about something like this https://i.imgur.com/JQ8tlLK.png
02:00:690 (1) - Might be worthwhile ending the spinner at 02:05:857 tbh. The long spinner isn't all too beginner friendly.

[]Will finish modding other diffs later ~

lit120

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Topic Starter

lit120 2017-12-09T18:29:50+00:00

guess i'll reply this first

Kisses wrote:
Hi, Circlejerking with ~~Sinnoh~~ Benny

Easy
00:21:857 (1) - don't end this on a non existent beat. End it on a strong sound like all your other sliders in the section tbh, i wanna have 00:23:024 (2) - as a clickable note + emphasized vocal sound there with a trumpet, but having a slider like this should work where the vocal stops, and giving them friendly enough to click that after a 1/1 beat break
00:30:524 (2) - 3/2 reverse slider. The red tick is way more dominant but i wanna map something different here, as i was following that synth sound, even if it's different from 00:34:524 (3) -
00:49:190 (2) - hitsound reverse i would do that if there was a kick sound
01:01:857 (1) - I recommend a 2/1 slider + circle here. To increase the circle to slider ratio as well as the fact that when you extend the slider slider to long it can throw noobs off their metronome. A 2/1 slider would be long enough to portray the held vocals. tbh, i was following a vocal that helds before another back up sound as it is, but i don't think it's a problem for newbies imo
01:07:190 (1,2,3) - Same rhythm as above would be nice. Your bojects would be hitsound appropriately this way and be much easily to follow as well as good consistency between rhythms same reason as provided, but not rly into consistency for a different rhythm
01:15:857 (2,3) - rhythm suggestion for better flow ~ https://i.imgur.com/rfqComo.png i prefer to have 01:16:690 (3) - as a clickable note rather than this suggestion :/
01:18:524 (2,3) - I'm a bit puzzled as to why you used this rhythm in particular and didn't have a 01:18:524 (2) mapped as a 3/2 reverse slider. You mapped the rest of the diff to avoid breaking polarity but didn't here when it is easily avoidable. It does make me wonder why it's a build up part indeed. 01:19:024 (3) - here as where the trumpet sounds loud enough that should be clickable there rather than having 01:18:524 (2) - as 3/2 reverse, that won't suit the best for an emphasize trumpet sound
01:19:857 (4) - Deleting or replacing this a circle (but I like deleting better) would give players a nice small break before the kiai. rather not :/
01:20:524 (1,2,3) - If you're going to map to the vocals here like this then please hitsound your rhythms so they match same reason about non existance of kicks or snares here
01:25:857 (1,2,3) - same as above ^
01:31:190 (1,2,3) - ^ ^
01:36:524 (1,2,3) - ^ ^
01:24:524 (3) - missing whistle on reverse there isn't anything to use a hitsound there
01:30:524 (3) - because this is the midday way point of the chorus just before it picks up again it would be nice here to have 2 circles for a bit of variety. 1/1 sliders are get really monotonous due to how much you use them in this diff. Also it would help to increase the circle to slider ratio which is quite lacking in this diff fine then
01:40:190 (2,3) - I can't really follow this rhythm, it doesn't feel natural at all. With the layer you're mapping having this beat 01:40:690 mapped should have more priority over 01:40:857 . Maybe something like this https://i.imgur.com/KOrhdaD.png idk tbh but you're way just doesn't feel right whenollowing the song fine then
01:43:690 (4) - whistle on head. same for 01:46:357 (4) - same reason
01:49:857 (1,1) - same as 01:01:857 (1) ^
01:57:190 (3) - another good place to map 2 circles to increase circle to slider ratio done
02:00:524 (4) - An NC here would give players more hp before the final spinner. The spinner is really long and you know how much noobs suck at spinners guess this makes sense enough why
02:00:690 (1) - Might be worthwhile ending the spinner at 02:05:857 tbh. The long spinner isn't all too beginner friendly. You don't have to worry about ending your diffs in the exact same place as the higher diffs as this would still make sense and I deem it to be appriopriate reduced it after some discussion about it

[]Will finish modding other diffs later ~

thanks!

lolia

1,356 posts

Joined May 2012

lolia 2017-12-10T07:49:30+00:00

Kisses

Normal

00:45:857 (6) - I really don't recommend placing a circle here. There's no sound here at all
00:50:524 (5) - 2 circles would be nice here. There are 2 different vocal notes on the head and tail this is almost same as 00:49:857 (4) - this, so slider is better imo w
00:53:357 (6) - This would flow better if it were a circle ~
00:51:690 (2) - A bit weird imo that you didn't map to the vocals here when you did with 00:51:190 (1) - . How about something like this https://i.imgur.com/JQ8tlLK.png
02:00:690 (1) - Might be worthwhile ending the spinner at 02:05:857 tbh. The long spinner isn't all too beginner friendly.

no reply = fixed
thanks!

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lit120

3,272 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

lit120 2017-12-10T07:52:55+00:00

updated karia's

Tyrell

425 posts

Joined July 2014

Tyrell 2017-12-10T23:51:23+00:00

Short mod on CTB diffs.

Platter

00:45:024 (2) - Feel there is enough emphasis for a dash here. strong vocal.
01:08:357 (1) - I feel there could be a hyper here since it's similar to 01:03:024 (4,5,1) - in terms of structure and importance in the song.

Not too much wrong with this diff imo. flows well. I feel like there could be a bit more movement overall but it's a platter so this functions well.

Rain

Not much to say about this diff since i liked it overall but I do feel some of the more horizontal sliders could use a bit more rotation to add a bit more leniency to their movements. Other than that, great diff in my eyes.

Couldn't find much because overall nice and simple song with solid mapping. .-.

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

1,962 posts

Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2017-12-11T00:55:25+00:00

Tyrell wrote:
Short mod on CTB diffs.

Platter
00:45:024 (2) - Feel there is enough emphasis for a dash here. strong vocal.
01:08:357 (1) - I feel there could be a hyper here since it's similar to 01:03:024 (4,5,1) - in terms of structure and importance in the song. I like to contrast high / low pitch on these with different patterns

Not too much wrong with this diff imo. flows well. I feel like there could be a bit more movement overall but it's a platter so this functions well.

Rain
Not much to say about this diff since i liked it overall but I do feel some of the more horizontal sliders could use a bit more rotation to add a bit more leniency to their movements. Other than that, great diff in my eyes. Vertical sliders are life

Couldn't find much because overall nice and simple song with solid mapping. .-. thank you for the help!

platter

osu file format v14

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Title:Winter Bells
TitleUnicode:Winter Bells♪
Artist:Chata
ArtistUnicode:茶太
Creator:lit120
Version:Sinnoh's Platter
Source:しろくまベルスターズ♪
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Title:Winter Bells
TitleUnicode:Winter Bells♪
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Source:しろくまベルスターズ♪
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Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Benita 2017-12-13T17:49:02+00:00

I'm here to push christmas maps into qualified featuring Kisses as my partner in crime

Platter

00:01:709 - Yeah, I'd like to see some consistency with the rhythm usage here, you start with 1/2 on the two first downbeats with a 1/1 slider and then you switch it up on the third downbeat 00:04:747 (1,2,3,4,5) - when the music doesn't change at all and then this 00:06:266 (1) - ?????? Please be consistent
00:16:356 (4,1) - Yeah no, you need longer distance for dashes. I think 2,00x is fitting. Also does this have to be vertical 00:15:857 (1,2,3,4) - ? Doesn't highlight the vocals very well, applies to all 1/2 dashes uwu
00:19:190 (1) - imo too close to the wall eee also 00:19:190 (1,2) - don't dash pls
00:23:024 (1) - would be better with a dash to the left instead
00:24:524 (1,2) - where's the dash
00:35:274 - delete timing point lol
00:37:774 - same, actually go through and delete all unused timing points that serve no purpose pls
00:38:857 (4,1,2) - this part is very empty so maybe dashes for vocal, same for similar parts like 00:44:524 (1,2) - vocals are pretty high pitched and I think it's ok to emphasise it
01:00:190 (3,4) - 01:01:023 (7,8) - what about dashes here for the bell? You kind of emphasised that here 01:05:190 (2,3,1,2) - and I think it's quite dull as walks.
01:45:690 (1,2) - decrease the distance a bit, it's a bit long for a walk
01:58:857 (3) - hitting the wall with this slider, move it furhter into the playfield
Generally think you can add more dashes, you got a decent amount of hypers but not so many dashes but I guess that's your style with platters or something reeee

Rain

00:15:857 (1,2,3,4) - Same as in platter, I think literally straight down doesn't compliment the vocals very well, also nc 00:16:524 (5) - for consistency with platter
00:21:357 (3,4) - I think you can put 4 to the right of 3 to create some antiflow for the vocals uwu also I think 00:21:024 (2,3) - should be a hyper also
00:23:024 (1,2) - I'd put a hyper between 1,2 as well for consistency
00:24:524 (1,2) - here too!!
00:26:190 (1) - Tilt the slider repeat to the left instead for some spicy antiflow to highlight the intensity and strong notes
00:26:690 (2,3,4,5) - the notes are gone (
00:33:690 (1) - yeah i think this is too close to the wall considering the hyper strength and all
00:30:857 (4,1) - the red tick on slider tail of 4 should be emphasised to be consistent with similar beats 00:28:357 (1) - 00:33:690 (1) - etc, also the trumpet hits on 00:31:357 - 00:31:524 - so doesn't make sense to put hyper between 4,1.
00:35:024 (1) - slider end is kinda strong and feels underemphasised as it is now...

Call me back after std diffs are confirmed by a BN and I'll icon

uhh also i modded this before tyrells mod so maybe something is irrelevant but whatever lol

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

1,962 posts

Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2017-12-14T01:28:39+00:00

Benny- wrote:
I'm here to push christmas maps into qualified featuring Kisses as my partner in crime

Platter
00:01:709 - Yeah, I'd like to see some consistency with the rhythm usage here, you start with 1/2 on the two first downbeats with a 1/1 slider and then you switch it up on the third downbeat 00:04:747 (1,2,3,4,5) - when the music doesn't change at all and then this 00:06:266 (1) - ?????? Please be consistent Minor rhythm variation is fine as long as I'm consistent with the patterns used, but did change the 4x repeat 1/1
00:16:356 (4,1) - Yeah no, you need longer distance for dashes. I think 2,00x is fitting. Also does this have to be vertical 00:15:857 (1,2,3,4) - ? Doesn't highlight the vocals very well, applies to all 1/2 dashes uwu Nothing to highlight on vocal, low intensity = low spacing
00:19:190 (1) - imo too close to the wall eee also 00:19:190 (1,2) - don't dash pls applied both
00:23:024 (1) - would be better with a dash to the left instead yup
00:24:524 (1,2) - where's the dash lower pitch, didn't use a dash since two hypers are next to it.
00:35:274 - delete timing point lol does nothing
00:37:774 - same, actually go through and delete all unused timing points that serve no purpose pls The amount of data taken up by you pointing this out and me replying is larger than the timing points itself.
00:38:857 (4,1,2) - this part is very empty so maybe dashes for vocal, same for similar parts like 00:44:524 (1,2) - vocals are pretty high pitched and I think it's ok to emphasise it Not using dashes to contrast higher pitch on next section of this.
01:00:190 (3,4) - 01:01:023 (7,8) - what about dashes here for the bell? You kind of emphasised that here 01:05:190 (2,3,1,2) - and I think it's quite dull as walks. good idea
01:45:690 (1,2) - decrease the distance a bit, it's a bit long for a walk made it clearer this is a dash
01:58:857 (3) - hitting the wall with this slider, move it furhter into the playfield moved over
Generally think you can add more dashes, you got a decent amount of hypers but not so many dashes but I guess that's your style with platters or something reeee hypers are easier than dashes when done right

Rain
00:15:857 (1,2,3,4) - Same as in platter, I think literally straight down doesn't compliment the vocals very well, also nc 00:16:524 (5) - for consistency with platter NCd
00:21:357 (3,4) - I think you can put 4 to the right of 3 to create some antiflow for the vocals uwu also I think 00:21:024 (2,3) - should be a hyper also 4 is less intense, no need for antiflow.
00:23:024 (1,2) - I'd put a hyper between 1,2 as well for consistency applied
00:24:524 (1,2) - here too!! both
00:26:190 (1) - Tilt the slider repeat to the left instead for some spicy antiflow to highlight the intensity and strong notes done i think
00:26:690 (2,3,4,5) - the notes are gone ( kek
00:33:690 (1) - yeah i think this is too close to the wall considering the hyper strength and all ok
00:30:857 (4,1) - the red tick on slider tail of 4 should be emphasised to be consistent with similar beats 00:28:357 (1) - 00:33:690 (1) - etc, also the trumpet hits on 00:31:357 - 00:31:524 - so doesn't make sense to put hyper between 4,1. synth is much stronger here
00:35:024 (1) - slider end is kinda strong and feels underemphasised as it is now... it's just spec/fii kinda stuff, works well in this situation

Call me back after std diffs are confirmed by a BN and I'll icon

uhh also i modded this before tyrells mod so maybe something is irrelevant but whatever lol

Easier to just puush if there's multiple diffs https://puu.sh/yFY3b/b75fc35aff.zip

lit120

3,272 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

lit120 2017-12-14T13:24:35+00:00

updated sinnoh's both diffs + fixed his hitsounds

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-12-14T21:49:42+00:00

Top

00:37:524 (2) - I wouldnt lower the SV here. When you do it the way you've done by ending it on the blue tick and having the big spacing afterwards it makes it hard to read as well as skews up what you're emphasizing.
01:03:190 (1,2,3) - bad flow
01:05:524 (4) - This 3/4 doesn't really fit in with the rest of your rhythm pattern and feels quite forced tbh
01:07:190 (1,2) - This spacing looks like 1/4 spacing with how it's close to slider 1 like how you spaced your other 3/4 sliders
01:28:774 (2,3,2,3,2,3) - I would prefer it if these triples were hitsounded. Feels a bit wrong that these are almost silenced
01:39:440 (2,3,2,3,2,3) - ^
01:54:857 (5) - With how you structured the rhythms throughout the entire map I'm surprised this isn't a 3/4 slider

Karia

01:28:774 (2,3,2,3,2,3) - same as top diff
01:39:440 (2,3,2,3,2,3) - ^

Hard

For the intro can you reduce the density a bit. To provide a better spread between normal and Insane as well as reflect the calm part of the song better.
You use the same object density here as the chorus
00:15:857 (1) - For this section can you just make it simpler and follow the instruments? It's bizzare that there is such an increase in density form both the normal and insane. It's also really hard to follow your rhythms to the music; I'm guessing you're following the vocals but all the circles like 00:18:190 (2,3) - throw you completely off. Like there are 2 vocals sounds on this slider 00:18:524 (4) but only 1 vocal sound on the 2 circles 00:18:190 (2,3). Another thing I will say is when the instruments are this predominant and are able to provide you with a non generic rhythm I don't see it as ideal to gloss over it and map the vocals.
01:59:024 (6,1,2,3,4) - Turn on stacking and fix this pattern
01:20:107 - Souds really weird that you skipped this triple here yet mapped it at 01:20:357 (6,7,1)

Easy

Ok so I'm not happy with half your explantions or the reasons you've done things.
00:21:857 (1) - The point I was trying to make was that you had every single slider end on a strong beat except here. Here and only here. So it really breaks your rhythm pattern as well as fucks up with beginners when they suddenly end on a non existent beat. I think ending on non existent beats itself should be something avoidable in easies 99% anyway
00:30:524 (2) - no
01:01:857 (1) - Also no. I'm not satisfied that this argues against what I said about it being a problem for newbies. Saying "but i don't think it's a problem for newbies imo" without explaining why doesn't do anything for me
01:07:190 (1,2,3) - ^
All that stuff I said about hitsounding, do it! I don't care that you added custom drum hitsounds and only added them where there land in the song, that's not what hitsounding is all about. Hitsounding is suppose to provide good feedback and make you more able to stick and follow to the rhythms you've used (I'm actually more leniant in the higher diffs (and yes you broke it a fuckload of times there) since the density, player skill etc make it less of an issue for players). For beginners they have nothing to go by really and when you map to the vocals and have objects as silent af it some places when loud af in others it makes have of the rhythm feel like ghost notes and is really, really difficult to follow along. Hitsounding isn't replicating drum sounds. Go and add in some default whistles if you want or w/e, heck even adding those custom whistles in the places I mentioned wouldn't do harm, it's not a sin to provide samples that aren't exactly in the song. You play other rhythm games right, ones that use one standard hitsound for every object; think how easy it is to follow the rhythm for those beginner diffs and how hard it would be if they incorporated most osu players logic of (drum hitsounds only) and then you'd be tapping to vocal rhythms but hear completely nothing in return. If you're going to argue that the default soft sampleset is there to give playesr feedback I'm just going to say the it's drowned out by the music and isn't sufficient

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lit120

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Topic Starter

lit120 2017-12-14T23:58:09+00:00

Kisses wrote:
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00:37:524 (2) - I wouldnt lower the SV here. When you do it the way you've done by ending it on the blue tick and having the big spacing afterwards it makes it hard to read as well as skews up what you're emphasizing. it fits tbh before to a vocal part, but increased SV speed a bit
01:03:190 (1,2,3) - bad flow changed to something else
01:05:524 (4) - This 3/4 doesn't really fit in with the rest of your rhythm pattern and feels quite forced tbh fine
01:07:190 (1,2) - This spacing looks like 1/4 spacing with how it's close to slider 1 like how you spaced your other 3/4 sliders moved (2) a bit further
01:28:774 (2,3,2,3,2,3) - I would prefer it if these triples were hitsounded. Feels a bit wrong that these are almost silenced
01:39:440 (2,3,2,3,2,3) - ^ hitsounding those would be worse, as it is just a trumplet only
01:54:857 (5) - With how you structured the rhythms throughout the entire map I'm surprised this isn't a 3/4 slider k
Hard
For the intro can you reduce the density a bit. To provide a better spread between normal and Insane as well as reflect the calm part of the song better.
You use the same object density here as the chorus hmmm?
00:15:857 (1) - For this section can you just make it simpler and follow the instruments? It's bizzare that there is such an increase in density form both the normal and insane. It's also really hard to follow your rhythms to the music; I'm guessing you're following the vocals but all the circles like 00:18:190 (2,3) - throw you completely off. Like there are 2 vocals sounds on this slider 00:18:524 (4) but only 1 vocal sound on the 2 circles 00:18:190 (2,3). Another thing I will say is when the instruments are this predominant and are able to provide you with a non generic rhythm I don't see it as ideal to gloss over it and map the vocals. makes sense hmm... changed to a slider for a better consistent intro for 00:18:190 (2) -
01:59:024 (6,1,2,3,4) - Turn on stacking and fix this pattern remade it
01:20:107 - Souds really weird that you skipped this triple here yet mapped it at 01:20:357 (6,7,1) ~~too much and tiresome for them to have 2 triples if i do that for amateur players :/~~
guess i'll use 1/4 reverse instead as u have said it before

Easy
Ok so I'm not happy with half your explantions or the reasons you've done things.
00:21:857 (1) - The point I was trying to make was that you had every single slider end on a strong beat except here. Here and only here. So it really breaks your rhythm pattern as well as fucks up with beginners when they suddenly end on a non existent beat. I think ending on non existent beats itself should be something avoidable in easies 99% anyway how come in nowadays this is avoidable for such easy diffs, even if i'm trying to follow its own beat existance for such case like this? :/ whatever, changed it. hope u're satisfied with this now
00:30:524 (2) - no changed after discussing with other BN
01:01:857 (1) - Also no. I'm not satisfied that this argues against what I said about it being a problem for newbies. Saying "but i don't think it's a problem for newbies imo" without explaining why doesn't do anything for me
01:07:190 (1,2,3) - ^ lemme explain about these 2 here. i'm sorry if i said that, but lemme make it clear this time. it's intentional for me having a slider with that long to provide such vocal that helds based on where it stops before a back up vocal, as it fits way more better for an Easy diff. if it's not allowed in ur view, then why it was allowed to have it more than 2/1 slider from the past? beginners totally will notice and play it well enough as the rhythm follows why the slider is long, due to a vocal that held until that long. i hope u understand why i did this and reconsider this situation as why i did this for a vocal's sake
All that stuff I said about hitsounding, do it! I don't care that you added custom drum hitsounds and only added them where there land in the song, that's not what hitsounding is all about. Hitsounding is suppose to provide good feedback and make you more able to stick and follow to the rhythms you've used (I'm actually more leniant in the higher diffs (and yes you broke it a fuckload of times there) since the density, player skill etc make it less of an issue for players). For beginners they have nothing to go by really and when you map to the vocals and have objects as silent af it some places when loud af in others it makes have of the rhythm feel like ghost notes and is really, really difficult to follow along. Hitsounding isn't replicating drum sounds. Go and add in some default whistles if you want or w/e, heck even adding those custom whistles in the places I mentioned wouldn't do harm, it's not a sin to provide samples that aren't exactly in the song. You play other rhythm games right, ones that use one standard hitsound for every object; think how easy it is to follow the rhythm for those beginner diffs and how hard it would be if they incorporated most osu players logic of (drum hitsounds only) and then you'd be tapping to vocal rhythms but hear completely nothing in return. If you're going to argue that the default soft sampleset is there to give playesr feedback I'm just going to say the it's drowned out by the music and isn't sufficient first of all, thanks for telling me that. about a hitsound case like this, i never wanted to add anything to non-existent beat, like 01:20:524 (1,2,3) - and such, cuz they don't even belong to it. if my hitsounding style was different, based on what i'm trying to follow here, it'd be a different one than this such problem. i mean why would i even do that, even if it ruins the hitsounding concepts as i was following instruments only than vocals, as it is not even prioritized in hitsound? whatever. if u want a satisfaction, lemme use a drum-hitwhistle then

ye

updated

Last edited by lit120 2017-12-15T11:17:57+00:00, edited 3 times in total.

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_handholding 2017-12-15T06:34:13+00:00

lit120 wrote:
Kisses wrote:
01:20:107 - Souds really weird that you skipped this triple here yet mapped it at 01:20:357 (6,7,1) too much and tiresome for them to have 2 triples if i do that for amateur players :/

1/4 reverse slider?

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

1,962 posts

Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2017-12-15T09:25:27+00:00

try this

osu file format v14

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lit120

3,272 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

lit120 2017-12-15T11:19:19+00:00

updated. also, not applying to karia's hitsound stuff, as the reason is still the same

Last edited by lit120 2017-12-15T15:28:02+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

lolia

1,356 posts

Joined May 2012

lolia 2017-12-15T11:22:46+00:00

@Kisses : hitsounding is by lit120, so his reply could be applied in my diff too xd

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-12-16T07:58:24+00:00

Easy

Make these sliders 2/1 + circle
01:01:857 (1) -
01:49:857 (1) -
01:52:524 (1) -
01:05:857 (3) - Use this rhythm https://i.imgur.com/Qj712WX.png

Hard

00:01:709 (1) - to 00:13:861 (1) - Lower the object density for this section. You can do this by deleting notes that don't need to be mapped, for example 00:06:077 (4) - . Also by removing the 1/2 rhythm spam such as 00:12:342 (1,2,3,4) -
00:15:857 (1) - i meant do what karia did in his insane, but it's w/e now

lit120

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Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

lit120 2017-12-16T08:28:08+00:00

Kisses wrote:
Easy
01:05:857 (3) - Use this rhythm https://i.imgur.com/Qj712WX.png nah, but i did it on my own way, by using http://puu.sh/yHxnV/00e185061e.jpg for prioritizing a vocal
Hard
00:01:709 (1) - to 00:13:861 (1) - Lower the object density for this section. You can do this by deleting notes that don't need to be mapped, for example 00:06:077 (4) - . Also by removing the 1/2 rhythm spam such as 00:12:342 (1,2,3,4) - remapped some parts
00:15:857 (1) - i meant do what karia did in his insane, but it's w/e now it ruins the start for this part, so i had to make things easier to start with for this diff

rests are done

lolia

1,356 posts

Joined May 2012

lolia 2017-12-16T08:35:01+00:00

@lit120 : could you remove 01:35:190 (1) - this NC in top diff?
EDIT : plz mute 01:43:024 (1) - this slider end in insane diff xd

Last edited by lolia 2017-12-16T08:38:07+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

lit120

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Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

lit120 2017-12-16T08:35:58+00:00

Karia wrote:
@lit120 : could you remove 01:35:190 (1) - this NC in top diff?

done

_handholding

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Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-12-16T08:40:15+00:00

Your message is too short.

lit120

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Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

lit120 2017-12-16T08:41:19+00:00

@Karia let's wait for a ctb bn to mod this so i can fix that too lol

and thanks

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

1,962 posts

Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2017-12-16T09:14:49+00:00

irc with benny

chat

Sinnoh - Today at 4:54 PM
winter bells bubbled, you free to qualify it tomorrow?
Benny - Today at 5:02 PM
Hell no
Kidding
p/6404952
But what is his
This
Sinnoh - Today at 5:03 PM
idk, they think you're gonna mod it one more time before qualifying
since they don't want to remove bubble state
Benny - Today at 5:06 PM
L m a o
That doesn’t really affect anything
At allllll
I do think your platter lack dashes though
Just because you’re allowed to use hypers in platter doesn’t mean you should stop using dashes
Sinnoh - Today at 5:08 PM
idk i did try using more dashes than usual in the platter, will see what I can do

removed some hypers, added some dashes. Feel free to update since whether the icon is there or not doesn't really matter.

platter

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lit120

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lit120 2017-12-16T09:18:08+00:00

updated sinnoh's platter + fixed on karia's slider end stuff lol

Benita

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Benita 2017-12-17T11:51:46+00:00

Hey guys, just a tiny thing before I qualify

Wouldn't it be logical if all spinners at the end of the map ended at the same timestamp? Currently Easy and Normal ends way earlier than all the other diffs.

lit120

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lit120 2017-12-17T11:56:13+00:00

Benny- wrote:
Hey guys, just a tiny thing before I qualify

Wouldn't it be logical if all spinners at the end of the map ended at the same timestamp? Currently Easy and Normal ends way earlier than all the other diffs.

providing short length of spinners would work on Easy and Normal, but others aren't, cuz those diffs are for newbies in order to give them spinning for a short amount of time

explained already in irc xd

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Benita 2017-12-17T11:59:42+00:00

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