20:05 JeirYagtama: dooooddd
20:05 Shortthu: nani
20:07 Shortthu: :thinking:
20:07 JeirYagtama: can we irc in v2 lol
20:07 Shortthu: kinda i think lol
20:07 JeirYagtama: plssssss
20:07 *JeirYagtama is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1469092 Mitchie M - Amazing Magician [Game Edit]]
20:08 Shortthu: o you're asking me for an irc mod :thonk:
20:08 JeirYagtama: getting this ready for sinnoh soon soooo
20:08 Shortthu: lul
20:08 Shortthu: [https://imgur.com/spDHzte.png btw rate my banner for a soon(TM) map xd]
20:12 Shortthu: u thereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee?
20:12 JeirYagtama: ops
20:12 JeirYagtama: hmmm
20:13 *Shortthu is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1469090 Mitchie M - Amazing Magician [Game Edit] [Astonishing Magic]]
20:13 JeirYagtama: kinda
20:13 Shortthu: :eyes:
20:13 JeirYagtama: missing something
20:13 Shortthu: hmm
20:13 Shortthu: cuz there is too much space i guess? :thonk:
20:13 JeirYagtama: not sure what tho
20:14 Shortthu: it's gonna be a 1 diff mapset tho :p
20:14 JeirYagtama: something like that
20:15 Shortthu: btw we start irc now?
20:15 JeirYagtama: > i kinda need mods also in the lower diffs if you can
20:15 Shortthu: o
20:15 Shortthu: let's see
20:16 JeirYagtama: yea go
20:16 *Shortthu is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1469092 Mitchie M - Amazing Magician [Game Edit] [Hard]]
20:17 Shortthu: 00:11:000 (4,5,6,7) - i'm not sure this is recommended for hard diff or not, but players will have some trouble with it i think
20:17 Shortthu: cuz they used to play triplet
20:18 JeirYagtama: i've kinda been having problems on that alot
20:19 JeirYagtama: but if theres anything better to suggest then ill take it
20:19 Shortthu: [https://puu.sh/yJ0F9/de1025b97d.png try this xd]
20:21 JeirYagtama: wait where does that rhythm start
20:21 Shortthu: 00:11:272 -
20:22 JeirYagtama: o
20:22 JeirYagtama: oke
20:22 Shortthu: 00:15:909 (5) - are there any reason to stack this at the end of 00:15:363 (3) - :thonk:
20:22 Shortthu: just feel a little bit out of place
20:23 Shortthu: 00:21:545 (4) - blanket lol
20:24 JeirYagtama: 00:15:363 (3) - yea its more on emphasis on intensity
20:24 JeirYagtama: ok blanket fixx
20:24 Shortthu: o
20:25 Shortthu: 00:23:727 (1) - well kinda blanket but whatever lol
20:25 Shortthu: that one is fine
20:25 Shortthu: 00:23:727 (1,2,3) - make a straight flow here i think
20:26 Shortthu: https://puu.sh/yJ0Py/632ff6814b.png something like this
20:27 JeirYagtama: aight
20:28 Shortthu: 00:23:363 - 00:24:818 - hmm why you put sliderend at those downbeat while 00:20:454 - not
20:29 Shortthu: 00:25:181 (5,6,7) - [https://puu.sh/yJ0Vj/05ca54dd1c.png] this whould look better, or you can stack them
20:30 JeirYagtama: hmm tbh idk how i could make the rhythm simple but objective in that section
20:30 Shortthu: let's see
20:31 JeirYagtama: stacc
20:31 Shortthu: staccccccc
20:32 JeirYagtama: staccccccccccccccc
20:32 Shortthu: https://puu.sh/yJ0Zf/d0121943c5.png try this rhythm
20:32 Shortthu: start from 00:20:454 -
20:32 Shortthu: repeat the first (yellow one) at 00:23:363 -
20:33 Shortthu: and map a downbeat at 00:24:818 -
20:33 Shortthu: tada~
20:33 Shortthu: try for the other part i guess
20:33 Shortthu: but well
20:33 Shortthu: if you prefer your previous rhythm
20:33 Shortthu: that's fine
20:35 Shortthu: 00:28:272 - hmm why suddenly change to vocal while the previous part you mapped the drum and snare
20:35 Shortthu: :thinking:
20:36 JeirYagtama: hmm
20:36 JeirYagtama: y not xddd
20:37 Shortthu: cuz you suddenly change the rhythm lol
20:38 JeirYagtama: only on that part tho
20:38 JeirYagtama: since the vocals pretty much stand out alot in that section
20:39 Shortthu: 00:39:909 (6) - or maybe do something like this
20:39 Shortthu: don't stack xd
20:40 Shortthu: but idk why this stack 00:34:090 (1) - doesn't seems bad for me lol
20:42 Shortthu: 00:43:181 (1,2,3,4) - delete 00:43:363 (3) - , move 00:43:454 (4) - to the deleted note, extend it to 00:43:727 - so it would make a triplet
20:42 Shortthu: [https://puu.sh/yJ1eJ/515920280d.png and the stack look kinda fcked up lol]
20:43 Shortthu: 00:31:363 (3,4,1) - spacing
20:44 JeirYagtama: 00:43:181 (1,2,3,4) - ok
20:45 JeirYagtama: ok fixed 1 lo
20:45 Shortthu: lol
20:46 Shortthu: look like you didn't use DS this diff
20:46 Shortthu: makes it look kinda messy lul
20:46 JeirYagtama: not all over the map
20:47 Shortthu: o
20:47 Shortthu: but still lol
20:47 JeirYagtama: majority i used ds to 1.3 lo
20:47 Shortthu: o xd
20:48 Shortthu: o and here is the spacing stuff i said
20:48 Shortthu: https://puu.sh/yJ1nD/6353f7103c.png
20:49 Shortthu: they look almost the same
20:50 JeirYagtama: smh net is slowly showing pic
20:50 Shortthu: rip uwu
20:51 *Shortthu same
20:51 Shortthu: 00:55:545 (1) - not enough recovery time
20:51 Shortthu: should be at least 1 beat
20:52 JeirYagtama: i forgot to fix that on the v2 forum lol
20:52 Shortthu: lol
20:53 Shortthu: 00:51:727 (1,2,3) - could move this a bit to make a straight like with 00:51:363 (5,6) - , just turn on stack lol
20:55 Shortthu: 00:57:000 (1,2,1) - questionable spacing :thonk:
20:56 JeirYagtama: i always hab stacc enabled
20:56 Shortthu: o
20:56 Shortthu: so make they look better then lel
20:56 Shortthu: 00:58:272 (1,2,3,4) - fix square lul
20:57 JeirYagtama: eeeeeeee
20:57 JeirYagtama: ome
20:57 JeirYagtama: oke
20:57 Shortthu: 01:01:181 (2,4,5) - overlaps here look kinda messy
20:58 JeirYagtama: yea suggest
20:59 Shortthu: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9793925 i'm making a triangle is it ok]
21:02 Shortthu: 01:04:090 - why put this cymbal at the reverse arrow ((((((((((((((((((((
21:02 JeirYagtama: o fuk LMAO
21:02 Shortthu: 01:05:363 (1) - here too
21:03 JeirYagtama: fuuuucckkkk
21:03 Shortthu: lol
21:03 JeirYagtama: suggest better rhythm plss
21:04 Shortthu: what about this https://puu.sh/yJ1Kp/0bbd98e610.png
21:05 Shortthu: might apply to other downbeat in reverse arrow too
21:06 Shortthu: maybe that's all x d
21:07 Shortthu: do i need to mod other diffs lol
21:07 JeirYagtama: if you can
21:07 JeirYagtama: ok changedd
21:07 Shortthu: nice
21:08 Shortthu: actually
21:09 Shortthu: i'm too lazy to mod other diffs loooooooool
21:09 JeirYagtama: dass ok
21:09 Shortthu: ya want a testplay? :thonk:
21:10 JeirYagtama: >if u want kds
21:10 JeirYagtama: ders the v1 forum
21:10 JeirYagtama: also oke
21:10 JeirYagtama: lemme update
21:10 Shortthu: i think i can post the chat log to v2 lol

20:10 JeirYagtama: doood can we irc for a bit?
20:10 [ amb1d3x ]: whats up
20:10 *JeirYagtama is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1469090 Mitchie M - Amazing Magician [Game Edit] [Astonishing Magic]]
20:10 JeirYagtama: reee
20:11 *[ amb1d3x ] is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1469090 Mitchie M - Amazing Magician [Game Edit] [Astonishing Magic]] +Hidden
20:12 [ amb1d3x ]: wait did u want a testplay
20:12 JeirYagtama: waiiit
20:12 [ amb1d3x ]: ok
20:12 JeirYagtama: forgot to update
20:12 [ amb1d3x ]: xd
20:12 [ amb1d3x ]: tell me when ur ready
20:13 JeirYagtama: sure
20:15 JeirYagtama: ok der
20:15 *[ amb1d3x ] is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1469090 Mitchie M - Amazing Magician [Game Edit] [Astonishing Magic]] +Hidden
20:17 [ amb1d3x ]: stacksreeeeeeee
20:17 [ amb1d3x ]: hold on let me redownload whole mapset
20:17 JeirYagtama: dw its worse on hard
20:19 JeirYagtama: i only changed the combo colors i was retarded enough to put something unrankable in it lmao
20:19 JeirYagtama: **cos
20:19 [ amb1d3x ]: im guessing blue
20:19 [ amb1d3x ]: xd
20:20 JeirYagtama: yellow
20:21 [ amb1d3x ]: xd
20:21 [ amb1d3x ]: ok so starting from top diff
20:21 [ amb1d3x ]: 00:08:090 (5) -
20:21 [ amb1d3x ]: why tho
20:22 JeirYagtama: eeee i kinda changed that from a mod
20:22 [ amb1d3x ]: its too hard to read imo
20:22 JeirYagtama: hmm something like giving more emphasis on intesity of sound
20:22 [ amb1d3x ]: also 00:10:090 (1) -
20:22 [ amb1d3x ]: this is the same rhythm pattern
20:22 [ amb1d3x ]: 00:04:999 (4,5,1) -
20:22 [ amb1d3x ]: but all stacked
20:23 [ amb1d3x ]: 00:09:363 (4,5,1) -
20:23 [ amb1d3x ]: not stacked
20:23 [ amb1d3x ]: ?
20:23 JeirYagtama: dats vocals tho
20:23 [ amb1d3x ]: mmm fair point
20:24 [ amb1d3x ]: i was just spooked as a player
20:24 [ amb1d3x ]: when that happened
20:24 [ amb1d3x ]: because from the first pattern i associated stacks with a 1/2 space in rhythm
20:24 [ amb1d3x ]: and non stacks as singles
20:25 JeirYagtama: hmmm
20:25 [ amb1d3x ]: as well this direct flow 00:13:181 (1,2) -
20:25 [ amb1d3x ]: imo it'd be better if it was opposite like 00:11:727 (1,2) -
20:25 [ amb1d3x ]: or switch the other way
20:25 [ amb1d3x ]: in the end just make things consistent
20:26 [ amb1d3x ]: same with the later on double sliders
20:26 [ amb1d3x ]: 00:14:636 (1,2,1,2) -
20:27 JeirYagtama: 00:13:545 (2,3) - it would kinda awkward flow if i put 2 in the opposite direction imo
20:27 JeirYagtama: 00:15:000 (2,3) - what about 3 tho
20:28 [ amb1d3x ]: mmm u could make 3
20:28 [ amb1d3x ]: and 2 and 1 all go in opposite directions
20:28 JeirYagtama: need some suggestions on a better pattern if thats the case
20:28 [ amb1d3x ]: like a triangle with slider bodies all going out
20:29 [ amb1d3x ]: or u could just ctrl g 1
20:29 [ amb1d3x ]: that could work too lol
20:29 JeirYagtama: o
20:30 JeirYagtama: sure
20:30 [ amb1d3x ]: ya like
20:30 [ amb1d3x ]: 00:13:181 (1,2) -
20:30 [ amb1d3x ]: is a stronger version of
20:30 [ amb1d3x ]: 00:11:727 (1,2) -
20:30 JeirYagtama: 00:13:181 (1,2) - i wanna keep the flow here tho so we can alter change in flow
20:30 [ amb1d3x ]: xd
20:30 JeirYagtama: from direct to opposite
20:30 [ amb1d3x ]: mmmmm
20:30 [ amb1d3x ]: up to you
20:30 JeirYagtama: aight
20:31 [ amb1d3x ]: also
20:31 [ amb1d3x ]: 00:19:727 (1,1,1) -
20:31 [ amb1d3x ]: completely different and unique sounds
20:31 [ amb1d3x ]: same slider shapes
20:31 [ amb1d3x ]: reeeeeeeeee
20:31 [ amb1d3x ]: make it less boring and reflect the sounds with sliders
20:32 JeirYagtama: hmm
20:32 JeirYagtama: oke
20:33 [ amb1d3x ]: 00:22:272 (3,4) -
20:33 [ amb1d3x ]: this pattern is concerning
20:33 [ amb1d3x ]: because with that slider shape and the circle after it
20:33 [ amb1d3x ]: ie
20:33 [ amb1d3x ]: 00:22:272 (3,4) -
20:33 [ amb1d3x ]: 00:21:000 (3,4) -
20:33 [ amb1d3x ]: 00:21:545 (5,1) -
20:34 [ amb1d3x ]: all has the circle on the inner side of the curved slider
20:34 [ amb1d3x ]: 00:22:272 (3,4) - but this breaks that pattern
20:34 [ amb1d3x ]: and moreover its on a perfect stack
20:34 JeirYagtama: cos vocals
20:34 [ amb1d3x ]: so its even harder to react to when it breaks the pattern
20:35 [ amb1d3x ]: why does vocals justify breaking a pattern shown very clearly and making it hard to read
20:35 JeirYagtama: u kno its boring to just keep mapping the drums all the time lol
20:35 [ amb1d3x ]: yeah but you dont need to make things harder for the player with the stacks
20:36 [ amb1d3x ]: your introducing two new changes
20:36 JeirYagtama: hmmm
20:36 JeirYagtama: if theres any better suggestions then sure
20:37 JeirYagtama: 00:21:909 (1,2,3) - like theres clearly different sounds here than the rest
20:37 JeirYagtama: and then this suddenly makes the vocals stand out more 00:22:636 (4,5,6) -
20:38 [ amb1d3x ]: the concern is the flow break as well
20:38 [ amb1d3x ]: if you want to change things up
20:38 [ amb1d3x ]: make it like 00:22:818 (5,6,1) - where one follows flow and is easier to read
20:38 [ amb1d3x ]: but spaced more than before to signify a change
20:38 [ amb1d3x ]: or spaced at different angles
20:39 JeirYagtama: hmm
20:39 JeirYagtama: aight
20:40 [ amb1d3x ]: btw
20:40 [ amb1d3x ]: 00:22:818 (5,6,1) -
20:40 [ amb1d3x ]: oops
20:40 [ amb1d3x ]: 00:35:181 (2) -
20:40 [ amb1d3x ]: wtf is this mapping to
20:41 JeirYagtama: wat
20:41 [ amb1d3x ]: idk if im deaf
20:41 [ amb1d3x ]: but its just silence on that note
20:41 JeirYagtama: its ders like a slightly loud guitar sound .--.
20:41 [ amb1d3x ]: like it just sounds like an extension of the sound on 00:35:000 -
20:41 [ amb1d3x ]: i hear the guitar
20:41 [ amb1d3x ]: 00:35:272 - on blue tick
20:41 [ amb1d3x ]: wait
20:41 [ amb1d3x ]: where the fuck is it
20:42 [ amb1d3x ]: it sounds like its on the 1/8 tick between red and blue
20:42 JeirYagtama: .--.
20:42 [ amb1d3x ]: 00:35:227 -
20:42 [ amb1d3x ]: its definitely not on the red tick to me
20:42 [ amb1d3x ]: unless im going crazy
20:42 JeirYagtama: its kind of unnoticable lmao
20:42 [ amb1d3x ]: which is comepletely possible
20:42 JeirYagtama: when playing
20:43 [ amb1d3x ]: when i was playing
20:43 [ amb1d3x ]: 00:35:000 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
20:43 [ amb1d3x ]: 00:35:181 (2,4) -
20:43 [ amb1d3x ]: felt out of place for me thats why i brought it up
20:44 [ amb1d3x ]: just felt like i was clicking to nothing there
20:44 [ amb1d3x ]: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
20:44 JeirYagtama: rip
20:45 [ amb1d3x ]: also personally 00:44:636 (2,3,4,5,6) -
20:45 [ amb1d3x ]: jumps wouldve fit better with the stronger vocals
20:45 [ amb1d3x ]: I barely noticed the drums over the vocals in this part
20:46 JeirYagtama: spaced it out instead
20:46 [ amb1d3x ]: okok
20:47 [ amb1d3x ]: 00:55:363 (1,2,1,2) -
20:47 [ amb1d3x ]: do you have a reason for the extremely awkward flow xd
20:48 [ amb1d3x ]: its completely fine rank wise
20:48 [ amb1d3x ]: just makes me annoyed as a player if i miss there xd
20:48 JeirYagtama: welp
20:48 JeirYagtama: i dont lmao
20:48 [ amb1d3x ]: lmao you were using sharp angles and comfortable jumps all map
20:48 [ amb1d3x ]: u should stick to it
20:49 JeirYagtama: wouldnt hurt to have an awkward buildup :^)
20:49 [ amb1d3x ]: lmaooo okok thats fine
20:50 [ amb1d3x ]: 01:15:545 (6,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) -
20:50 [ amb1d3x ]: turn off effects to 0
20:50 [ amb1d3x ]: 0%
20:50 [ amb1d3x ]: and listen to it
20:50 [ amb1d3x ]: for me it feels way too overmapped with rhthm lol
20:50 [ amb1d3x ]: rhythm*
20:51 [ amb1d3x ]: are there even significant sounds on every other circle
20:51 [ amb1d3x ]: nvm just this one
20:51 JeirYagtama: 01:17:181 (3) - welp
20:51 [ amb1d3x ]: 01:15:909 (2) -
20:51 [ amb1d3x ]: :^)
20:51 JeirYagtama: that bell
20:51 JeirYagtama: sound
20:51 [ amb1d3x ]: yeah i hear it lmao idk how tf i missed it
20:51 [ amb1d3x ]: but the 2
20:52 [ amb1d3x ]: wait is it a vocal
20:52 [ amb1d3x ]: im not even sure
20:52 JeirYagtama: its vocal xd
20:52 [ amb1d3x ]: holy shit thats sutble lo
20:52 JeirYagtama: 01:16:454 (2) - you noticed the gimmick gets more intense
20:53 [ amb1d3x ]: yeah i noticed that it just feels overmapped to me idk why
20:53 [ amb1d3x ]: see other people's opinions
20:53 [ amb1d3x ]: if its a concern for them too
20:53 JeirYagtama: you're the only one who pointed this out so far lmao
20:53 [ amb1d3x ]: okok then its just me xd
20:54 [ amb1d3x ]: hmm nothing else i can see with the final diff
20:54 JeirYagtama: welp even if this is in v2
20:54 JeirYagtama: ders still the v1 forum in the desc
20:54 JeirYagtama: if you want kds
20:54 [ amb1d3x ]: wait im not done
20:54 JeirYagtama: p:
20:54 [ amb1d3x ]: unless you dont want mod of hard
20:55 [ amb1d3x ]: did u only want the final diff?
20:55 JeirYagtama: hmm i kinda need more mods on easy and normal since they're the least diffs that got mods
20:55 JeirYagtama: if you can
20:55 [ amb1d3x ]: ok
20:56 [ amb1d3x ]: oh what do i do with normal its a gd lol
20:56 [ amb1d3x ]: wait theyre both gd
20:56 [ amb1d3x ]: I can just post on forum with a mod
20:56 [ amb1d3x ]: if u want
20:56 [ amb1d3x ]: and post irc as well
20:56 JeirYagtama: orrr ders v2
20:56 [ amb1d3x ]: i have no clue
20:56 [ amb1d3x ]: how the fuck to use v2
20:56 [ amb1d3x ]: LOL
20:56 JeirYagtama: welp
20:57 JeirYagtama: one point per post
20:57 JeirYagtama: lmao
20:57 [ amb1d3x ]: tbh i found no problems with normal while playing
20:57 [ amb1d3x ]: and easy looking at it in editor
20:57 [ amb1d3x ]: it doesnt break flow
20:57 [ amb1d3x ]: it doesnt overlap
20:57 [ amb1d3x ]: it doesnt stack
20:57 [ amb1d3x ]: rankable easy
20:57 [ amb1d3x ]: right there easy is ready for rank xd
20:58 JeirYagtama: nicee
20:58 [ amb1d3x ]: how tf do i got irc log again
20:58 [ amb1d3x ]: whats the command
20:58 JeirYagtama:

20:58 JeirYagtama: o wait
20:58 [ amb1d3x ]: no like in chat
20:58 JeirYagtama: "/savelog"
20:58 [ amb1d3x ]: oh its savelog
20:58 [ amb1d3x ]: LOL thx