chainpullz wrote:

N0thingSpecial wrote:

The title says kill me, I think that’s a good enough reason.

Also “discuss your score” is blatantly obvious not possible with how generic and common the score was.

N0thingSpecial wrote:

Also “discuss your score” is blatantly obvious not possible with how generic and common the score was.

Linck5 wrote:

I might come out as a socially naive person, but in what way is "kill me..." offensive?

Emersyne wrote:

This entire subforum has a serious attitude problem. It's certainly rubbed off on me over time. I've never been on a forum that made me feel so hostile. Maybe if a large percentage of the posters here weren't trying to be the internet's next top jaded meme warrior it would be different.

Mio Winter wrote:

In the news today: this thread.

Someone posted a screenshot of their 1xmiss on a hard map (noteworthy!), got one really rude comment, another somewhat rude comment (maybe excusable because that was just Taiga being Taiga), and then the thread was promptly locked. I'm not sure why. (Edit: because it was clickbaity?) On the one hand, the pinned G&R rules (you all read those before posting, right? of course we did) clearly says:

"This forum isn't made for personal diaries and blogs. Instead, move your progress experience to your userpage. It's not necessary to have other people commentating your progress and potentially leaving shit posts there."

On the other hand,

Click to open the other hand

Mio Winter wrote:

I was given the impression that discussing our scores was an OK use of this subforum, because I read the line in the image below and because people seemed to be doing it without rebuke before. And why wouldn't it be OK? Humans seem to have a fun time discussing their achievements and jockying for bragging rights, so I see no reason to intervene. But first saying it's OK and then being rude at others for doing it definitely seems like a not-OK thing to do. Instead, it's MEAN.

Mio Winter wrote:

Uh, so yeah, I just thought I'd highlight the conflict in the rules and maybe encourage someone to change the rules (I prefer this!) or the subforum purpose.

The reason I prefer the rule-change is simple. 1) I think hearing about other players' progress is interesting, so it benefits me, and 2) other players want to share news about their progress, so it benefits them. If the objection is "but if everyone started talking about their scores in this subforum, there would be no room for anything else!" then I would just point out that everyone already believes they're allowed to do so (see the image above) and the subforum is currently not swamped with threads like that. If that changes, you could just change the rules.

Emersyne wrote:

This entire subforum has a serious attitude problem. It's certainly rubbed off on me over time. I've never been on a forum that made me feel so hostile. Maybe if a large percentage of the posters here weren't trying to be the internet's next top jaded meme warrior it would be different.

Mio Winter wrote:

You mean if everyone posted about scores similar to the one that person posted about, there would be too many posts like that in the forum? (I may be misunderstanding your point. Tell me if I am.)

But the forum isn't already filled to the brim with such posts. (I think the current rate of such posts seems fine.) And assuming no one actually reads the forum rules anyway (except me, I actually did that the first time I posted, but I'm weird), changing the rules won't actually change posting habits much. Changing the rule will instead change the rate at which such posts are flamed by fellow forum members and locked by moderators.

[Taiga] wrote:

You didn't made a good first impression here, sorry pal. As someone who sit in GnR good 3 years and was active for over 2 years, I can say that GnR is very friendly and helpfull place if person who post first isn't a hypocrit / passive-agressive / not willing to listen random noname. Great amount of my osu!friends are from GnR. Maybe it is time to change your attitude, look at yourself and try to live with others?

B1rd wrote:

Remember jokes = microagressions. We need to PC this shit up

As for the rest of you, remove the plank in your own eye. It's not like you ever talk about anything interesting. But we gotta have our oldfag hate circlejerk against some new guy that broke the unwritten forum codes.

Emersyne wrote:

[Taiga] wrote:

You didn't made a good first impression here, sorry pal. As someone who sit in GnR good 3 years and was active for over 2 years, I can say that GnR is very friendly and helpfull place if person who post first isn't a hypocrit / passive-agressive / not willing to listen random noname. Great amount of my osu!friends are from GnR. Maybe it is time to change your attitude, look at yourself and try to live with others?

I have never, not even once, seen you post something that wasn't either about yourself or at someone else's expense.

How exactly have you contributed to this being a "friendly and helpfull" place?

Emersyne wrote:

[Taiga] wrote:

You didn't made a good first impression here, sorry pal. As someone who sit in GnR good 3 years and was active for over 2 years, I can say that GnR is very friendly and helpfull place if person who post first isn't a hypocrit / passive-agressive / not willing to listen random noname. Great amount of my osu!friends are from GnR. Maybe it is time to change your attitude, look at yourself and try to live with others?

I have never, not even once, seen you post something that wasn't either about yourself or at someone else's expense.

How exactly have you contributed to this being a "friendly and helpfull" place?

B1rd wrote:

Remember jokes = microagressions. We need to PC this shit up

As for the rest of you, remove the plank in your own eye. It's not like you ever talk about anything interesting. But we gotta have our oldfag hate circlejerk against some new guy that broke the unwritten forum codes.

Not calling people who just joined the forum autistic retards = PC culture?

I can only imagine what you think the ideal forum enviromnent should be.

And as someone who apparently lurks almost exclusively in a thread called, and I quote, "ITT we post shit that is neither funny nor interesting", when have you ever posted anything interesting, much less an OP, to make this claim?

Mio Winter wrote:

Linck5 wrote:

I might come out as a socially naive person, but in what way is "kill me..." offensive?

I also wondered why people reacted to this, but the reason is just that many people find clickbaiting to be really annoying or morally bad. It's a cheaty way to try to get attention. I remember seeing the "kill me.." thread and I thought for a second that it might be someone posting a suicide letter or something. Although I doubt the author actually intended to make people click the thread by tricking them about the post's content.

Mio Winter wrote:

In the news today: this thread.

Someone posted a screenshot of their 1xmiss on a hard map (noteworthy!), got one really rude comment, another somewhat rude comment (maybe excusable because that was just Taiga being Taiga), and then the thread was promptly locked. I'm not sure why.

Emersyne wrote:

This entire subforum has a serious attitude problem. It's certainly rubbed off on me over time. I've never been on a forum that made me feel so hostile. Maybe if a large percentage of the posters here weren't trying to be the internet's next top jaded meme warrior it would be different.

Sandy Hoey wrote:

This doesn’t belong in G&R :thinking:

B1rd wrote:

Look at the number under my name and tell me what you think. Also people are hostile to you not just because there are perpetually angry people here like Taiga, but because you're an idiot.

[Taiga] wrote:

Emersyne wrote:

I have never, not even once, seen you post something that wasn't either about yourself or at someone else's expense.

How exactly have you contributed to this being a "friendly and helpfull" place?

By giving tons of good advises to newbies regards game client, game mechanic, calculations and general gameplay.

M3ATL0V3R wrote:

However if you are being self centered, complaining or edgy, like in that thread then it is unacceptable. You could say that the joke "kill me" makes it an acceptable thread as it detracts from the selfishness of posting your own score but since the joke is bad then it is a bad thread.

M3ATL0V3R wrote:

You can see people trying to be funny as "meme warriors" or you can see them as harmless idiots trying to learn how to be funny. There is nothing wrong with unfunny jokes (as long as they are humble about it)

B1rd wrote:

Look at the number under my name and tell me what you think.

B1rd wrote:

Also people are hostile to you not just because there are perpetually angry people here like Taiga, but because you're an idiot.

[Taiga] wrote:

Mio Winter wrote:

... another somewhat rude comment (maybe excusable because that was just Taiga being Taiga) ...

I was polite in my post, dunno what is your problem. No personal issues there, no swears, nothing what is even slightly against inter-personal communication rules. Elaborate or please, do not provoke.

N0thingSpecial wrote:

No, you could replace the score with cookiezi’s 1 miss on blue zenith it would still be just as pointless to discuss, hence why dickheads like me would meme it to hell, and moderators don’t like it. No matter how insightful you are at the game, no matter how much data you collected from the game, no matter how much time you’ve spent on this game, you still can’t add anything more meaningful to a post with a 1 miss score, a title that says kill me and a row emoji spam done unironically.

Yes there’s no inherit harm to having post like these, but are there any merits in posting this? You might say lock is underserving, but does the post warrant any type of meaningful discussion in the first place?

M3ATL0V3R wrote:

Discussing scores is sort of OK if it is a joke or actually has substance. However if you are being self centered, complaining or edgy, like in that thread then it is unacceptable. You could say that the joke "kill me" makes it an acceptable thread as it detracts from the selfishness of posting your own score but since the joke is bad then it is a bad thread. This makes the thread one that fits into the category of "diary" and no one except the OP wants the thread to exist.

N0thingSpecial wrote:

PEOPLE HAVE FEELINGS

Emersyne wrote:

Don't you think these viewpoints are kind of contradictory?

Also, what you see as people trying to be be funny, I see as people acting in bad faith because they're not good enough to contribute anything useful or interesting, but still want people to give them attention. These kinds of people, in my opinion, are wastes of space.

Mio Winter wrote:

I never thought posts like those were helpfwl for getting better, or for starting meaningfwl discussions. I just appreciate them as "Hey, look at me I'm cool and here's why: [screenshot that tries to justify claim that I am cool]!". It's like a basic human interaction. Bragging. And then having others notice it and brag in return or congratulate or jealous or whatever. I want to enable human interactions like those because people like being social? And even if only the poster appreciated the thread, then that would be good enough a reason to not ban it, as long as no one else finds the thread too annoying (which, I guess many here do...). Personally, I kinda like seeing players report on their progress. Even if they do it in a way that reveals low social intelligence.

Saying hello to your neighbour doesn't actually need to lead to a meaningfwl discussion or help you get better at anything, but I still wouldn't ban those interactions.

Emersyne wrote:

In other news, some people say I'm the best poster on the forum.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_word

Why don't you try posting some actual examples, and then explain how those examples outweigh the ten posts per example that are anything but.

M3ATL0V3R wrote:

Wanting attention is fine if they are humble about it. The post that was locked is not humble because the joke was out of the posters frustration from the choke on the map. The poster did not want discussion or to be funny, the poster wanted to vent their frustration.

Posters who are unfunny are different, just being unfunny in itself does not make the poster not humble. You cannot judge a person based on their content, the context in which the content is posted is important. "Kill me" can be funny given the right context, it can also be humble.