ONE OK ROCK - Memories · forum

schoolboy

Joined July 2016

Topic Starter

schoolboy 2017-11-21T18:25:13+00:00

fixed general stuff thanks marvollo, also that repeat slider in lasse's diff

-NanoRIPE- wrote:
hard
01:11:159 (3) - theres no reason to using 1/4 reverse slider here since the drum roll stopped at here (just using a circle instead) sure
03:14:588 (4) - i think its more effective if convert this into 3 circles (it more represent the guitar and cymbal more) made curve more compressed to show that instead

[pain]
03:14:931 (3) - this circle should be move farther so it give the cymbal and guitar more emphasized (the current place seems weak for emphasizing) try (511,222) changed placement

ty <3

stacks in hard are okayish imo, since this diff is not really for the newest players, will keep for now

Shmiklak

Elite Storyboarder

3,218 posts

Joined January 2015

Shmiklak 2017-11-22T01:19:59+00:00

The stacks themselves are okayish but I wonder if you really want to place them like this without any consistency

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-11-22T16:07:17+00:00

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00:15:959 (1) - NC isn't necessary
00:49:217 (1) - ctrl g? Would give it a stronger emphasis if it flowed in the opposite direction
01:10:131 (2,1) - If you decreased the spacing here a bit it might get the player to feel the speed of the stream after it a bit more. Since you will be moving less distance here before you start the stream
02:07:731 (1) - This doesn't look as good as 01:11:159 (1) - aesthetically. I get that this slider is shorter in length so you can't do anything too fancy but idk, this slider felt a bit bland

FCL

02:40:988 (1) - This could have been executed so much better if you didn't build up so much speed too early at 02:41:674 (1) - . Or at least make 02:42:017 (1,1,1,1) - cover more distance
00:07:645 (2,3,4,5) and 00:13:131 (2,3,4,5) - why?
00:16:302 (1) - Mute the slider end (or change sampleset) ? Not really feeling that additive hitsound
02:07:902 (2,3) - can you use the same spacing as 02:07:731 (1,2) - so the snapping wouldn't be misread? Something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9598754 would fit in with the structure of the whole pattern 02:06:874 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) -

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Trynna

714 posts

Joined May 2013

Trynna 2017-11-23T16:03:50+00:00

i'm sorry for the late reply, for some reason i wasn't receiving the posts from this thread
pls no tilt about meme diffname

@-NanoRIPE- i will wait for more feedback on 00:43:045 (4,5,1) - since i kinda agree with you that the rhythm is prob not the best but i want to make sure first. On 02:40:302 (4) - i would like to emphasize 02:40:474 - somehow, so i wasn't focusing the guitar sounds so blindly, i think that way it's pretty clear that 02:40:474 - is important or something like that

rest fixed thank you!

updat e

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Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2017-11-23T16:27:49+00:00

fixed
https://0paste.com/18332.txt

schoolboy

571 posts

Joined July 2016

Topic Starter

schoolboy 2017-11-23T17:23:10+00:00

💋💋💋💋 wrote:
Top
00:15:959 (1) - NC isn't necessary true
00:49:217 (1) - ctrl g? Would give it a stronger emphasis if it flowed in the opposite direction this fix requires some adjustments for the further patterns and i dont really want to touch them since i really like them actually =\
01:10:131 (2,1) - If you decreased the spacing here a bit it might get the player to feel the speed of the stream after it a bit more. Since you will be moving less distance here before you start the stream decreased, also decrease spacing in the stream
02:07:731 (1) - This doesn't look as good as 01:11:159 (1) - aesthetically. I get that this slider is shorter in length so you can't do anything too fancy but idk, this slider felt a bit bland increased sv so its better now?

thanks 💋💋💋💋

celerih

617 posts

Joined July 2014

celerih 2017-11-26T18:25:02+00:00

[

Pain]

00:30:702 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1) - Spacing of this section feels excessive when compared to 00:27:959 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - right before that is at the same intensity
00:36:874 (1,2,1,2) - Would rather see the jumps on 00:37:045 (2,2) - since that's where the strong drum hits are
01:00:531 (3) - The kicklsider here kinda ruins the buildup into the next section of the kiai. Having a low spacing stream here would work so much better, this also applies in the second kiai 01:56:759 (3) -
01:07:731 (1) - Maybe give the first part of this slider a bit of curve too?
01:13:217 - break here is unfitting imo, the song's intensity is still considerable here, so not mapping it feels out of place
01:31:902 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - once again spacing is a too much for a calm section., Nerf this a bit
01:33:445 (1) - unnecessary NC
01:45:102 (1) - Since in the map you focus a lot of making vocals clickable, I'd make this 2 1/2 sliders instead
02:12:874 - map these vocals
02:22:131 (2,4) - curve these a bit more?
02:52:645 (8,9,10,11) - The intensity of the drums already start to go down here, so reduce spacing here a bit
03:03:788 (10,11,12) - unnecessary NC and weird spacing change here. The spacing change would make more sense if it started on 03:03:617 (8) -

[

FCL's Extra]

00:11:159 (5) - Add a repeat on this
01:13:731 - Weird that you skip over this red tick here since here 01:16:302 (9) - you actually mapped it. Same applies on 03:06:188 -
02:07:902 (2) - There's no strong enough sound to justify this being a circle imo. Either have it as a slider end or remove the circle
02:42:017 (1,1,1,1) - All these NCs aren't needed

[

Lasse's Insane]

02:40:988 (1,1) - Extend the slider to the white tick, so it's consistent with how you do streams starting after sliders

[

Collab Hard]

01:21:445 (1) - Start the slider on 01:20:417 - otherwise, remove it, it's way too short for a hard
01:26:245 (1,2) - Move these two back 1/2. 01:26:074 - is way to important to be ignored here. See the box below for a possible alternative
01:31:559 - same as above
01:33:102 (5) - REmove 1 repeat and add another repeat 1/4 slider on 01:33:445 - the break here doesn't fit imo

[

Normal]

Why the high CS? Would be better at 3
The intro (00:16:988 - 00:38:588 - ) is extremely dense, especially for a normal. I'd recommend remove some 1/2 and adding some 1/1 breaks in there. This puts a lot of strain on the player right at the start, and this part is also even more dense than the kiais at certain points. In normals, most of the intensity felt comes from the density of the notes, so it's important to have a good balance
01:22:817 - This section here also needs less density

[

Sadboy's Easy]

Why the diff name Sadboy's Easy? Unless I missed something, just name this Trynna's Easy
Otherwise looks good

Fix the stuff (especially density in the normal) and call me back (:

Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2017-11-26T18:40:08+00:00

unlike the other slider-stream pattern there is a really noticeable change on 02:41:674 - since it goes from this long sound+buzzing into a drumroll, whereas others have the slider already start on drums
i also want to have nc there for colorhax and random blue tick nc would be worse imo

tldr: it's pretty different from all the other streams in the map so I think it's fine to be "inconsistent"

Trynna

714 posts

Joined May 2013

Trynna 2017-11-26T18:51:24+00:00

i've fixed the last object that got the distance changed somehow, prob my bad
also updated the diffname

update

osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 105103
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: None
StackLeniency: 0.5
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 2
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 3.299999

[Metadata]
Title:Memories
TitleUnicode:Memories
Artist:ONE OK ROCK
ArtistUnicode:ONE OK ROCK
Creator:Komore
Version:Trynna's Easy
Source:
Tags:35xxxv Alternative rock post-hardcore lasse fcl namki trynna
BeatmapID:1455218
BeatmapSetID:684590

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:3
ApproachRate:4
SliderMultiplier:0.899999999999999
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
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0,0,"memory.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
2,131017,132239
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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schoolboy

571 posts

Joined July 2016

Topic Starter

schoolboy 2017-11-26T19:50:46+00:00

celerih wrote:
[ Pain]
00:30:702 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1) - Spacing of this section feels excessive when compared to 00:27:959 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - right before that is at the same intensity reduced spacings
00:36:874 (1,2,1,2) - Would rather see the jumps on 00:37:045 (2,2) - since that's where the strong drum hits are yeah agree
01:00:531 (3) - The kicklsider here kinda ruins the buildup into the next section of the kiai. Having a low spacing stream here would work so much better, this also applies in the second kiai 01:56:759 (3) - sure
01:07:731 (1) - Maybe give the first part of this slider a bit of curve too? the current one is better for me
01:13:217 - break here is unfitting imo, the song's intensity is still considerable here, so not mapping it feels out of place i think it should be there to provide some rest for the player, also i find it a bit boring as a player to play literally the same part i played before. shouldnt be a problem imo, also lasse did this break as well
01:31:902 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - once again spacing is a too much for a calm section., Nerf this a bit sure
01:33:445 (1) - unnecessary NC increased sv a bit due to unusual 1/4 sounds, so i guess a nc is needed now
01:45:102 (1) - Since in the map you focus a lot of making vocals clickable, I'd make this 2 1/2 sliders insteadwill be really dense for a pause in the music imo, 1/1 fits better here
02:12:874 - map these vocals sure
02:22:131 (2,4) - curve these a bit more? deleted the curves instead
02:52:645 (8,9,10,11) - The intensity of the drums already start to go down here, so reduce spacing here a bit well you are right here, but i dont really want to break the pattern i have for this stream.. changes in the gameplay would be unnoticeable, but i dont think ill come up with a better pattern than i have rn. tho if its a big problem tell me and ill change
03:03:788 (10,11,12) - unnecessary NC and weird spacing change here. The spacing change would make more sense if it started on 03:03:617 (8) - different sounds appear on 03:03:788 (1) - and then they start decreasing in volume on 03:04:045 (1) - if you listen with 25%. well idk maybe its just me or smth but i really feel like it should be this way

[ Collab Hard]
01:21:445 (1) - Start the slider on 01:20:417 - otherwise, remove it, it's way too short for a hard
01:26:245 (1,2) - Move these two back 1/2. 01:26:074 - is way to important to be ignored here. See the box below for a possible alternative
01:31:559 - same as above
01:33:102 (5) - REmove 1 repeat and add another repeat 1/4 slider on 01:33:445 - the break here doesn't fit imo hmm, the break gives good emphasis for vocals and works well with the unusal 1/4 sounds.. works fine for me, but tell me if you need this fixed

[ Normal]
Why the high CS? Would be better at 3 3,5 for a better spread (3-3,5-4)
The intro (00:16:988 - 00:38:588 - ) is extremely dense, especially for a normal. I'd recommend remove some 1/2 and adding some 1/1 breaks in there. This puts a lot of strain on the player right at the start, and this part is also even more dense than the kiais at certain points. In normals, most of the intensity felt comes from the density of the notes, so it's important to have a good balance
01:22:817 - This section here also needs less density decreased intensity in those parts

thanks, hope my reasonings are not that bad

FCL

1,478 posts

Joined July 2014

FCL 2017-11-26T21:16:31+00:00

Kisses wrote:
02:40:988 (1) - This could have been executed so much better if you didn't build up so much speed too early at 02:41:674 (1) - . Or at least make 02:42:017 (1,1,1,1) - cover more distance sounds good, i did more distance between 1/8 sliders
00:07:645 (2,3,4,5) and 00:13:131 (2,3,4,5) - why? because song has pretty unique rhythm here, the song sounds like two doubles, so this pattern is mapping pretty well it
00:16:302 (1) - Mute the slider end (or change sampleset) ? Not really feeling that additive hitsound alright
02:07:902 (2,3) - can you use the same spacing as 02:07:731 (1,2) - so the snapping wouldn't be misread? Something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9598754 would fit in with the structure of the whole pattern 02:06:874 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - the song moves to a more relaxed pace. 02:07:731 (1) - sounds more stronger than 2-3. I think it good fits for a song, and shouldn't create a some missreads

celerih wrote:
FCL's Extra
]
00:11:159 (5) - Add a repeat on this i could, but 1/8 structure at the start of the song may make some missreads
01:13:731 - Weird that you skip over this red tick here since here 01:16:302 (9) - you actually mapped it. Same applies on 03:06:188 - sometimes in the structure of the map i am missing beats like these. I prefer to add 1/1 gaps to do more diverse rhythm
02:07:902 (2) - There's no strong enough sound to justify this being a circle imo. Either have it as a slider end or remove the circle see kisses' reply
02:42:017 (1,1,1,1) - All these NCs aren't needed yeah

Thanks for modding guys!

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_handholding

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_handholding 2017-11-27T09:48:28+00:00

Oh yh if it wasn't obvious I'm interested in nominating too ~

schoolboy

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Topic Starter

schoolboy 2017-11-27T13:36:22+00:00

oh i thought it was just a random nm

schoolboy

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Topic Starter

schoolboy 2017-11-27T14:45:50+00:00

ok updated all diffs everything should be g now

_handholding

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_handholding 2017-12-02T19:32:18+00:00

Lasse
00:43:988 (8) - 2 circles like the rest of the drum stream? 00:43:302 (2,3,4,5,6) - . Same for 01:38:845 (2) -

01:10:474 (1) - If you reduce the spacing between 3 and 1 then you'd probs get more emphasis on the stream after. same for 03:02:931 (1) -

02:21:017 (4) - The drum rolls in this section seem to have (character?) in this section so i think having some movement to them (doesn't have to be much) would be much more fitting to the song. Same for this specific stream as well 02:52:217 (2) -

Hard
00:16:302 (1) - I think it's better to have this as a circle since you're mapping the drums with 00:15:617 (1,2) . It would match the drums more and the pause would give more emphasis to the beat at 00:16:988

In the verse 00:27:959 to 00:38:931 , you have a lot of 1/2 sliders spams that don't follow the drums eg 00:28:817 (4,5,6,7,8) . If you're going to tell me that you're trying to follow the drums then I would say it doesn't really fit well since your rhythms follow the drums very closely before and after the 1/2 slider spams. For 00:27:959 (1) - you could try something like https://i.imgur.com/2fFFBpw.png Where the new rhythm has a sliderhead on every snare. There are a few ways to go about this but your current one isn't really nice.

01:45:102 (1,2) - Snapping way too awkward for this diff. Better to just delete. 01:45:788 (3) - circle would fit nicer too

01:11:159 (4) - I can't really explain why but when you have this as a slider ending on the white tick it takes away a lot of the emphasis from the final circle 01:11:845 (1) . Imho having 01:11:159 (4) - as a circle or an even longer slider like the top diff would fit better

02:16:302 (1,2,3) - rhythm suggestion https://i.imgur.com/oSeUwc6.png

01:43:388 (1) - the double reverse plays a bit awkward and no one is really going to expect it

Normal
Err, This is pretty much an advanced (the rhythm feels like a hard in some places). If you want me to push this forward you would have to be willing to nerf the rhythm in places, especially the verses.

Lasse

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Lasse 2017-12-02T19:43:58+00:00

Kisses

Kisses wrote:
Lasse
00:43:988 (8) - 2 circles like the rest of the drum stream? 00:43:302 (2,3,4,5,6) - . Same for 01:38:845 (2) - blue tick kickslider into short break makes this stand out very nicely imo

01:10:474 (1) - If you reduce the spacing between 3 and 1 then you'd probs get more emphasis on the stream after. same for 03:02:931 (1) -
cymbal on 1 is my main focus, added finishes on them though

02:21:017 (4) - The drum rolls in this section seem to have (character?) in this section so i think having some movement to them (doesn't have to be much) would be much more fitting to the song. Same for this specific stream as well 02:52:217 (2) - prefer to keep the stacked, partially for difficulty reasons and also because I just think they fit really well, spacing the last one would make sense, but it's also by far the longest stream in the map so spacing it would make it a huge spike.

thanks!
https://0paste.com/19048.txt

schoolboy

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schoolboy 2017-12-03T13:21:47+00:00

Kisses wrote:
Lasse

Hard
00:16:302 (1) - I think it's better to have this as a circle since you're mapping the drums with 00:15:617 (1,2) . It would match the drums more and the pause would give more emphasis to the beat at 00:16:988 i prefer current one, works better with that noise

In the verse 00:27:959 to 00:38:931 , you have a lot of 1/2 sliders spams that don't follow the drums eg 00:28:817 (4,5,6,7,8) . If you're going to tell me that you're trying to follow the drums then I would say it doesn't really fit well since your rhythms follow the drums very closely before and after the 1/2 slider spams. For 00:27:959 (1) - you could try something like https://i.imgur.com/2fFFBpw.png Where the new rhythm has a sliderhead on every snare. There are a few ways to go about this but your current one isn't really nice. i focus on vocals here, not on drums.. tho i changed some moments here,
so should be better now

01:45:102 (1,2) - Snapping way too awkward for this diff. Better to just delete. 01:45:788 (3) - circle would fit nicer too a circle for the first one, keeping the second one since i kept 00:16:302 (1) -

01:11:159 (4) - I can't really explain why but when you have this as a slider ending on the white tick it takes away a lot of the emphasis from the final circle 01:11:845 (1) . Imho having 01:11:159 (4) - as a circle or an even longer slider like the top diff would fit better a circle now

02:16:302 (1,2,3) - rhythm suggestion https://i.imgur.com/oSeUwc6.png sure

01:43:388 (1) - the double reverse plays a bit awkward and no one is really going to expect it ok

Normal
Err, This is pretty much an advanced (the rhythm feels like a hard in some places). If you want me to push this forward you would have to be willing to nerf the rhythm in places, especially the verses. nerfed

_handholding

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_handholding 2017-12-05T22:35:14+00:00

ok about the rhythm in your normal. It's mostly the density but it also could be a nicer step up from the easy. Try not to have long sequences like 01:59:159 (7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) . Adding a few 1/1 gaps every now and then really helps. Also I don't really want to see 3 1/2 sliders next to each other like 00:24:188 (6,7,8) or if you're going to use it, use it sparingly. Also

00:49:902 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - This rhythm is perfect so use this as a basis
[]
other stuff
01:10:817 (4) - delete reverse
02:29:331 (6,1) - don't have beat gaps < 1/2
[]ok celerih is about to go on hiatus soon so I'll be checking this as much as possible so he can qualify it immediately after my bubble

schoolboy

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schoolboy 2017-12-06T12:20:25+00:00

i kept 3 1/2s only in verses since i cant really think of a rhythm that would work with vocals as well as the current one
other than that i think i should satisfy u with my changes

_handholding

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_handholding 2017-12-06T18:19:04+00:00

Easy

00:43:559 (5) - This beat is incredibly weak, it would make it much easier to follow this if you incoperated it in a slider. something like this https://i.imgur.com/YdwgUF8.png The slider repeat is where 5 used to be
01:09:102 (1) - You can have map this as a 2/1 slider if you want to map the held vocals
01:00:874 to 01:06:359 - A few things. First off I would like some more consistency between the 2 measures here. Second the way you've mapped a 2/1 slider on 01:02:245 makes me think you're trying to map the vocals and if you're doing that there is a better way, since the vocals are actually on the red tick. Here is an example rhythm https://i.imgur.com/excUSZb.png . The measures are more consistent here and to the vocals more accurately. Also if you really want to make the drum rolls stand out at 01:05:674 you can try https://i.imgur.com/2DwqOE7.png or https://i.imgur.com/2wtcKgo.png
02:13:559 (1,2,3,4) - I going to suggest to delete these objects and extending the break for several reasons. This goes for other kiais too
A longer resting break would be quite nice for beginners to sit back and regain a little.
This object 02:18:359 (4) doesn't play too well as it comes from a long break from 3 and it takes away a lot of emphasis from the downbeat 02:19:045 (1) 02:14:931 (3,4) - the long gap between these objects skews hp
02:13:559 (1,2,3) - this rhythm follows the vocals really weakly
And lastly I just think it would fit the music better
02:40:988 (5) - Deleting this would create a nice break before the final kiai
02:47:159 (4) - 2 circles here would be nice for variety and to map the drums
03:06:702 (1) - Really weird rhythmically the way you mapped the downbeat with a slider end when you haven't dont it elsewhere. It flows really awkwardly
Parts like 00:16:988 to 00:27:959 - I find the rhythm you've used in these sections a bit awkward because of the varying different snaps you've used. Also it incoperates a few big drum sounds but misses out on the big drum snare which is way more audible than the kick. Maybe you could use something like this repeating https://i.imgur.com/AF4RfUn.png ? These parts are quite tricky to map rhythmically for an easy but you're way is too complex imo for an absolute beginner

Normal

Komore wrote:
i kept 3 1/2s only in verses since i cant really think of a rhythm that would work with vocals as well as the current one
other than that i think i should satisfy u with my changes

for the first 2 you can turn the last 1/2 slider into a 1/1 slider.
for the last one you can do this 00:43:045 (4) - https://i.imgur.com/dX3VRjV.png

Other stuff

01:56:759 (5) - turning this into a circle would give more emphasis to the downbeat as it would remove the passive beat on the red tick
02:34:131 (4) - rhythm suggestion ~ https://i.imgur.com/A41tubG.png
03:02:588 (2) - for this you can turn this into a circle if you want to get rid of the 3 successive 1/2 sliders, because 03:02:931 (3,4) - have drum beats on the end
Some of your combo lengths are different like 03:04:302 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) . So check over the map and make your NC lengths consistent and tell me why you have different lengths in some places

FCL

FCL wrote:
Kisses wrote:
02:07:902 (2,3) - can you use the same spacing as 02:07:731 (1,2) - so the snapping wouldn't be misread? Something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9598754 would fit in with the structure of the whole pattern 02:06:874 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - the song moves to a more relaxed pace. 02:07:731 (1) - sounds more stronger than 2-3. I think it good fits for a song, and shouldn't create a some missreads

It's not that relaxed, I'd say it's even arguably as strong given the way there's a semi strong finish in the song and hitsounding. It's really enough to make a player assume that the same spacing has suddenly become a different beat snapping given that there are no abrupt changes in the song. If you really dont want to change the spacing then having 02:08:074 (3) - NC'd would definitely help.
[]

Top

Komore wrote:
💋💋💋💋 wrote:
Top
00:49:217 (1) - ctrl g? Would give it a stronger emphasis if it flowed in the opposite direction this fix requires some adjustments for the further patterns and i dont really want to touch them since i really like them actually =\
thanks 💋💋💋💋

I actually didn't think you would need to alter anything after ctrl + g and that it would play just fine. Though if you don't want to change it that's fine ~
[]
Do you have a source?

FCL

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FCL 2017-12-06T19:28:53+00:00

nc has been added

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schoolboy

571 posts

Joined July 2016

Topic Starter

schoolboy 2017-12-06T19:49:28+00:00

why mapping normal is so hard
done all there anyway

also in extra i agree that ctrl +g wont affect gameplay anyhow but it will kinda affect visuals which isnt cool imo
so keeping this i guess
changed 2 shapes tho

thanks
http://www.oneokrock.com/jp/music/649 metadata

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-12-06T20:23:40+00:00

alrite, guess we're waiting on easy. Poke me you're ready

Trynna

714 posts

Joined May 2013

Trynna 2017-12-06T20:42:55+00:00

Kisses wrote:
Easy
00:43:559 (5) - This beat is incredibly weak, it would make it much easier to follow this if you incoperated it in a slider. something like this https://i.imgur.com/YdwgUF8.png The slider repeat is where 5 used to be i just wanted to not repeat that like 3 times in a row? like 00:40:302 (4) - and 00:45:788 (4) - does that already, and as sliders are not as good as breaks as circles with a bigger gap, i'd prefer to keep this one if possible
01:09:102 (1) - You can have map this as a 2/1 slider if you want to map the held vocals i don't feel like the vocal holds the word "now" this much and not really fitting in my opinion, also works as rest and stuff (i know 01:04:988 (3,4) - also does the work but i like some)

01:00:874 to 01:06:359 - A few things. First off I would like some more consistency between the 2 measures here. Second the way you've mapped a 2/1 slider on 01:02:245 makes me think you're trying to map the vocals and if you're doing that there is a better way, since the vocals are actually on the red tick. Here is an example rhythm https://i.imgur.com/excUSZb.png . The measures are more consistent here and to the vocals more accurately. Also if you really want to make the drum rolls stand out at 01:05:674 you can try https://i.imgur.com/2DwqOE7.png or https://i.imgur.com/2wtcKgo.png

rhythm are consistent between the two measures doe, i just decided to change some sliders to circles and vice versa, i don't feel like it is a bad thing to do or something like that, you can drop your opinion here too but i just don't feel like changing it would do something else. Also about 01:02:245 (4) - i followed the guitar change and it seems fitting, i didn't try to follow the vocal cuz red tick here would not be the best option imo. Honestly i didn't really get ur third point here, the prints were a bit confusing to understand since 01:05:674 (4,5,1) - is pretty much vocals and i saw nothing covering the downbeat on your print so i went tilt mode
02:13:559 (1,2,3,4) - I going to suggest to delete these objects and extending the break for several reasons. This goes for other kiais too
A longer resting break would be quite nice for beginners to sit back and regain a little.
This object 02:18:359 (4) doesn't play too well as it comes from a long break from 3 and it takes away a lot of emphasis from the downbeat 02:19:045 (1) 02:14:931 (3,4) - the long gap between these objects skews hp
02:13:559 (1,2,3) - this rhythm follows the vocals really weakly
And lastly I just think it would fit the music better

yea i agree with you that players needs a rest, although i don't feel like ignoring vocals would be a cool thing since the break climax changes on 02:13:559 - cuz background vocal starts (which definitely doesn't fit the music better to continue a break i guess?), also 02:13:559 (1,2,3) - is like 3 sliders and then another long break on 02:16:302 -, so yea maybe breaking the song climax wouldn't be the best choice for just this reason.
Also, i've tested the hp on editor, and the hp loss is minimal as far as i could see
I also can't agree that 02:13:559 (1,2,3) - follows the vocal in a bad way, 02:13:559 (1) - head and tail has a real impact, just note the syllables, also 02:14:931 (2) - this covers the background vocal and the main one, since head, reverse and tail has important tonic syllable too, same goes for 02:18:359 (3) - and so on.
02:40:988 (5) - Deleting this would create a nice break before the final kiai this sound is really important to me to just ignore
02:47:159 (4) - 2 circles here would be nice for variety and to map the drums ok
03:06:702 (1) - Really weird rhythmically the way you mapped the downbeat with a slider end when you haven't dont it elsewhere. It flows really awkwardly fixed
Parts like 00:16:988 to 00:27:959 - I find the rhythm you've used in these sections a bit awkward because of the varying different snaps you've used. Also it incoperates a few big drum sounds but misses out on the big drum snare which is way more audible than the kick. Maybe you could use something like this repeating https://i.imgur.com/AF4RfUn.png ? These parts are quite tricky to map rhythmically for an easy but you're way is too complex imo for an absolute beginner

uuh i don't thing we should just blindly follow white ticks, i always keep in mind the rule that at least 1/1 gaps should be used, but if an important sound goes through a red one, i simply switch with a slider tail and then the 1/1 gap continues perfectly, that's not really a big deal and it's only used so the players can have a better musical experience during their gameplays. I've done that on easies before and none of these were a trouble or something like that, so i guess we are safe

Looks like we have some conflicting points, so i'll be waiting for your response se we can reach an agreement
And sorry if i look rude, everytime i don't agree with some points people think i'm mad and idk why, i'm sorry if i look like that and that's not my intention in the first place

sadboy

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schoolboy

571 posts

Joined July 2016

Topic Starter

schoolboy 2017-12-06T20:47:56+00:00

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edit forgot to say, i decided to revert celerih suggestion for 02:12:874 - since i kinda disliked how that worked
another music part starts here 02:13:559 - so even if i map vocals i should start mapping there and not on 02:12:874 - because otherwise there is no sense in break which separates 2 different parts

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-12-07T00:34:47+00:00

Easy

01:30:874 (1) - 1/2 sliders like these come off are so short they come off more difficult for an absolute beginner. To get rid of this one you can try having 01:29:674 (3) - as a reverse slider or something similar. The slider at the end of the map is fine tho 03:14:588 (4) -
00:30:531 (5) - ^
00:36:017 (5) - ^
01:26:759 (3) -
01:22:131 (5) - Having this as a circle would represent the music a lot better imo. Since the percussion and everything stops after this beat having objects stop too would match
03:09:445 (5) - Deleting this would represent the drum roll and pause after it well imo

Trynna wrote:
Kisses wrote:
Easy
00:43:559 (5) - This beat is incredibly weak, it would make it much easier to follow this if you incoperated it in a slider. something like this https://i.imgur.com/YdwgUF8.png The slider repeat is where 5 used to be i just wanted to not repeat that like 3 times in a row? like 00:40:302 (4) - and 00:45:788 (4) - does that already, and as sliders are not as good as breaks as circles with a bigger gap, i'd prefer to keep this one if possible

Sorry I just can't accept this. I'm following the rhythm and I just don't see it as natural or intuitive enough this to be ok for a beginner. The beat is just too minor and switches in between layers too much. The other reverses sliders are quite apart from this so I don't see it as being bland if you took my suggestion. Ofc you're free to try your own thing in it's place

Trynna

714 posts

Joined May 2013

Trynna 2017-12-07T01:31:51+00:00

ok no need to a response, everything was fully adressed
thank you, kisses

i hope my remap didn't fuk the colorhax up, i've tried to fix everything doe
also no hitsound issues, i've copied stuff again

edit: removed notes on 02:13:559 - till 02:18:359 - since Kisses explained me better why it would be cool and makes sense. Also NC'd 01:31:045 (1) - as we talked irc

komore save the world v2

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64,60,186702,1,0,0:0:0:0:
92,144,187045,5,0,0:0:0:0:
88,324,187731,1,0,0:0:0:0:
168,368,188074,2,0,L|260:368,1,89.9999999999999,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
288,284,188759,2,0,L|196:284,1,89.9999999999999,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
208,104,189788,70,0,P|263:64|358:109,1,180,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
428,164,190817,1,0,0:0:0:0:
428,252,191159,2,0,B|384:276|340:268|344:240|296:232|254:249,1,180,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,296,192188,1,8,0:0:0:0:
108,236,192531,6,0,L|108:56,1,180,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
188,16,193559,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,76,193902,2,0,L|348:76,1,89.9999999999999,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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gl komore

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-12-07T18:29:50+00:00

Source here for those interested --> http://www.oneokrock.com/jp/music/649

Trynna wrote:
gl komore

celerih

617 posts

Joined July 2014

celerih 2017-12-08T03:58:13+00:00

Due to some personal stuff/final exams I won't be able to recheck this until at the very least the 12th, but probably to the 15th. I'm incredibly sorry for the delay, but I just don't have the time/energy to check this

schoolboy

571 posts

Joined July 2016

Topic Starter

schoolboy 2017-12-08T04:28:13+00:00

np, take your time

schoolboy

571 posts

Joined July 2016

Topic Starter

schoolboy 2017-12-11T19:38:50+00:00

y are u denying kisses kds?
since mv2 started providing them i think its too unfair to give only one kudos for a whole mod