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Hana - i o Tokinasai

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Trynna
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on segunda-feira, 25 de dezembro de 2017 at 20:08:57

Artist: Hana
Title: i o Tokinasai
Source: いきなりあなたに恋している
Tags: wo visual novel eroge game Ikinari Anata ni Koi Shiteiru
BPM: 156
Filesize: 1893kb
Play Time: 01:33
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1,51 stars, 110 notes)
  2. Hard (2,98 stars, 251 notes)
  3. Insane (3,8 stars, 342 notes)
  4. Normal (1,96 stars, 161 notes)
Download: Hana - i o Tokinasai
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dude beziers are hard

hey delis, who's mad about creativity?
Delis
beziers save my life tbh
Mirash
WHO
Topic Starter
Trynna
Ataraxia
i ta vendo eroge vo conta pra mae kkkkkkkkkk
ghr14
que eroge divino
Topic Starter
Trynna
emukko <3
Josh123uaJ
Ayyy, from q.

Easy:
00:04:656 (3) - Vocals sound like they're singing a new phrase and there's a strong beat in the background. Maybe put a NC here instead of the next note.
00:10:810 - Feels like a note is missing here. Maybe put a note there like you did at 00:04:656 (3) (also keeps the pattern consistent).
00:16:964 (4) - NC (Same reason)
00:18:887 (3) - You can improve blanket here.
00:23:118 (4) - NC
00:41:580 (4) - NC
01:06:195 (4) - NC
01:18:503 (4) - NC
01:21:580 (3) - NC

Normal:
01:10:810 (4) - You could make this slider blanket 01:11:772 (5).
01:27:733 (1) - You could make this slider more circular like this. (I used a circle as a reference because beziers are hard)

Hard:
01:18:695 (2) - You could improve blanket here.

Insane:
00:02:926 (1) - Improve blanket.
00:08:118 (3,4) - You should make it have the same spacing as 00:07:733 (1,2).
00:25:810 (1,2,3,4,5) - You should align them. The fifth note looks off.
00:26:580 (6) - Place a new NC here instead of 00:27:156 (1).
00:43:887 (3,4,5,6,1) - You can make them form a perfect triangle.

Only issues I have are the NC placements at easy. Otherwise, nice map. GL
Net0
[General]
  1. Se eu não me engano acredito que não pode usar combo color branco puro, ou seja, RGB 255, 255, 255 de valor. Vou conferir isso direito depois mas se quiser perguntar pro Delis se ele sabe dessa guideline.
  2. Desativa widescreen e countdown de todas as diffs

[Easy]
  1. Esse ritmo aqui tá bem quebrado pra easy diff 00:04:656 (3,1,2) – e o lugar do NC também achei estranho 00:05:041 (1) - , acredito que vc colocou ele pra indicar a diferença de gaps entre 3-1 e 1-2. Não que a culpa seja sua, a música tem um ritmo horrível pra fazer simplificado. É possível sim representar melhor a música mas o único jeito de conseguir isso é usando mais sliders.
    O vocal fica no white tick basicamente aqui 00:01:580 (1) – e no restante da measure ele fica no red tick, mas vc seguiu o white tick em todos os momentos eu sugiro um ritmo assim em comparação com o seu atual;
    https://puu.sh/yrj1J.png
    https://puu.sh/yrj0v.png
    Claro que isso só é válido se for pra seguir com mais precisão o vocal. Talvez se aplique a outros ritmos da diff... De qualquer maneira é bom conferir se vão aceitar o ritmo da diff overall porque em alguns momentos a música realmente fica no tick branco de forma regular e em outros ficou simplificado no branco.
  2. Abaixo um pouco isso aqui 00:36:580 (3) -, coloca no y:6 só pra evitar tocar na barra de hp
  3. Mesma coisa pra 01:03:118 (1) -
[Normal]
  1. Esse shape tá bem estranho 01:27:733 (1) -, se era pra ficar parecido com um “C” acho que dá pra melhorar um pouco mais.
  2. A estética aqui fica melhor se for copy paste de slider rotacionado em 180º 00:56:964 (1,3) – na minha opinião, de preferência pega esse shape 00:56:964 (1) – dá 2 ctrol+> e coloca no lugar do 00:57:926 (3) –
  3. Esse ritmo tá bem interessante 01:15:426 (1,2,3) – mais vc resolveu usar ele apenas uma vez e fez outras 3 variações pra cada início de measure do refrão; 00:56:964 (1,2,3) - / 01:03:118 (1,2,3) -/ 01:09:272 (1,2,3,4) - . Várias versões diferentes pra mesma parte da música cuidado com isso.
  4. Tenta colocar um reverse no lugar desse slider 01:32:926 (5) – pra mapear o kick aqui 01:33:118 -
Vou terminar de mod mais tarde :o

[Hard]
  1. Não encontrei nada aqui \o/

[Insane]
  1. Melhora o blanket 00:29:849 (5,6) -. Esse aqui se vc comparar ficou bem melhor 00:32:349 (1) -
  2. Troca esses dois de posição 00:32:156 (6) – e 00:32:926 (2) – pra dar ENFASE MAPPING THEORY na transição 00:32:156 (6,1) - :3
  3. Eu acho que esse undermap 00:49:272 (1,2) – não traduz da melhor forma o build up. Poderia considerar densificar um pouco mais o ritmo aqui ? Inclusive se comparar com o hard aqui tá mais nerfado.
  4. Pode buffer um pouco mais essa distância 01:32:926 (3,1) -, ela tá idêntica ao 1/2 anterior quase 01:32:349 (1,2) -
Mirash
Insane
00:07:926 (2,3) - feels super bad to play, also it looks like jump training, something closer like https://i.imgur.com/IdkYOuF.jpg will work better
00:22:156 (8) - seem like missing clap here
00:21:195 (1,2,3,4,5) - more spacing please? seem boring otherwise https://i.imgur.com/VACluHJ.png
00:44:465 (6) - even if there is no sound for clap you could still put it here so it gives feedback for players, currently it just doesn't feel like it should be there at all lol (overmapXD)
00:51:965 (4) - as sounds here are different you slider could be a two circles instead so music followed more accurately! https://i.imgur.com/YycaNAk.png
01:31:003 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - owo suki
feels like there is a place for more interesting patterns tbh than just ds'd objects most of the time, i guess that wasn't your intention of this map well

Normal
00:47:733 (1,2,3) - this tbh https://i.imgur.com/q6PqR4i.png climax of section!
01:12:349 - usually this is fine, but here seem really out of rhythm https://i.imgur.com/ngAF7MH.png works much better, and yeah 01:12:926 - this place will require some different rhythm too

Easy
What fix 0.01 difficulty please
Topic Starter
Trynna
not mentioned is somehow fixed

@Josh123uaJ On easy i am making the combos bigger than usual, that's why there's a lot of NC potential that i missed, but that was intentional, don't worry.
On insane, nc is on 00:25:810 (1) - instead of 00:26:195 (5) -, 00:27:156 (1) - NC is another thing more related to avoid put it on 00:27:541 (3) -. Also 00:44:465 (6,1) - spacing differece is something like intensity reasons i guess

@Net0 no easy eu dei um melhor cover em partes como 00:05:041 - e 00:17:349 -, as pausas restantes eu pretendo manter por ser uma dificuldade tecnicamente mais fácil. Também n mudei a parada do combo color branco porque vc sabe. No normal eu n vi nenhum som relevante em 01:33:118 - pra fazer um reverse, e 00:56:964 (1,3) - foi intencional, eu faço isso normalmente, que é fazer a simetria certinho e dar ctrl h, fica top, coisa minha eu acho (vou ver sobre as variações mas n vejo problema).

@Mirash On insane: nerfed 00:07:733 (1,2,3) - i don't know if it's better though, i just don't want to make 00:07:733 (1,2,3,4) - all equal spacing :SsSsS. About 00:21:195 (1,2,3,4,5) - u gay ????. 00:51:965 (4) - main intention wasn't to follow that part accurately as you can see on another sounds as 00:53:310 - and 00:53:695 - that has such a high intensity if you compare with another ones on the same section, i just tried to follow it on a simplified way but i'm not so sure about it right now.

thank you guys!!
Delis
LQ bg ok
no kiai in tv size ok

addressed most of the things in discord so only minor thing came up i think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndPZvjBidEk official video instead because i cant put booklets here it's full nsfw so you're missing はな in artist

[Insane]
00:04:656 (1,2,3) - I think only 1/1 and 1/2s will work nicely in this part because it's most quiet part so far but 2 3/4s are kinda intenser than how it should be imo, maybe shorten the sliders into 1/2, simply works prob. 00:11:387 (3,4) - is also 2 3/4s im ok with this but old maps don't really use this a lot just saying :P
00:35:041 (5) - would make a pause by stacking it onto 00:35:426 (1) - or put the circles further? it's readable but the rhythm doesn't look clearn
00:49:849 - circle here might be a good material to accelerate the intensity here!! also I actually came up with an idea that to do CTRL+G on the sliders 00:50:810 (1,2,3,4) - because the flow 00:50:426 (5,6,1) - feels not intuitive and out of place compared to the rest of the map? you don't really have to emphasize it and the flow after they're ctrl-g'd plays c00l combo'ing towards 00:52:349 (1,2,3,4) -
01:15:233 - I actually feel like to have a circle or even a triplet here since the spacing 01:14:849 (4,1) - has triggered me again xD
01:25:233 (4) - Haha ball
[Hard]
00:25:810 (4) - this is sex
00:57:156 (1) - this cirlce may bother newer players as only 1/2 blank after a spinner is pretty quick lol
01:02:733 (6) - would just put this along the slider curve for a better flow owo
[Normal]
00:24:656 (2) - this rhythm is weird since the rhythm suddenly goes for the background sound and ignoring the vocals that you've been following for :( https://delisha.s-ul.eu/MM5KI4Yb rhythm like this feels more decent to catch everything you wanted here so give it a shot
00:49:272 (5) - I think this does do nothing here, extend the slider into 3/2 may work well for the sound in the song, the vocals etc..
01:00:233 (1,2) - maybe should tilt them some more, it's currently unbalanced with how the sliders are mapped around, and that causes some awkward playability https://delisha.s-ul.eu/lceRv12q
01:05:810 - a circle? you haven't had any blank thats longer than 1/1 before
01:31:003 (1,2) - 01:32:349 (3,4) - you could stack these notes like you did for 00:24:464 (1,2) - it will look clearner, you can do this for 01:24:464 (4,1) - 01:29:080 (2,3) - only if you want though it makes the map neater

only thing I've noticed is the chorus is less intense than the other part, like 00:57:926 (3) - can be a 1/2 repeat slider instead for the vocals, a circle at 01:01:003 - and so move 01:01:195 (2) - by 1/2 tick, so you remove the slider where was at 01:01:580 - but add a circle at 01:01:964 - instead, to make the rhythm more suitable with how this section is normally mapped out, it's still up to you but increasing the intensity at THE KIAI is a definitely good idea!
[Easy]
haha combo is inconsistent actually feels like you can just make everything as long as possible
setting is edgy can u go with like ar3 od2 hp2 or whatever
00:17:349 (5) - what slider is it
00:28:118 (4) - I personally think how you didn't tilt the slider on 00:30:810 (2) - is pretty cool but 00:28:118 (4) - flows kinda odd according to how 00:26:580 (2,3) - flow, consider tilt the (4) a bit?
01:09:272 (1,2) - 01:24:656 (1,2) - should swap the nc because you usually put a nc wheres the last note before a 1/1 blank
Topic Starter
Trynna

Delis wrote:

LQ bg ok
no kiai in tv size ok

addressed most of the things in discord so only minor thing came up i think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndPZvjBidEk official video instead because i cant put booklets here it's full nsfw so you're missing はな in artist

[Insane]
00:04:656 (1,2,3) - I think only 1/1 and 1/2s will work nicely in this part because it's most quiet part so far but 2 3/4s are kinda intenser than how it should be imo, maybe shorten the sliders into 1/2, simply works prob. 00:11:387 (3,4) - is also 2 3/4s im ok with this but old maps don't really use this a lot just saying :P i'll try to keep the second one listed cuz the vocals really extends p much :(
00:35:041 (5) - would make a pause by stacking it onto 00:35:426 (1) - or put the circles further? it's readable but the rhythm doesn't look clearn stacked on 00:35:426 (1) -, i hope it's betta
00:49:849 - circle here might be a good material to accelerate the intensity here!! also I actually came up with an idea that to do CTRL+G on the sliders 00:50:810 (1,2,3,4) - because the flow 00:50:426 (5,6,1) - feels not intuitive and out of place compared to the rest of the map? you don't really have to emphasize it and the flow after they're ctrl-g'd plays c00l combo'ing towards 00:52:349 (1,2,3,4) - tried, tell me if it's gud now
01:15:233 - I actually feel like to have a circle or even a triplet here since the spacing 01:14:849 (4,1) - has triggered me again xD triple'd :sunglasses:
01:25:233 (4) - Haha ball i love this one!!
[Hard]
00:25:810 (4) - this is sex gae
00:57:156 (1) - this cirlce may bother newer players as only 1/2 blank after a spinner is pretty quick lol tried somethin
01:02:733 (6) - would just put this along the slider curve for a better flow owo is this really necessary? would destroy the aes :(
[Normal]
00:24:656 (2) - this rhythm is weird since the rhythm suddenly goes for the background sound and ignoring the vocals that you've been following for :( https://delisha.s-ul.eu/MM5KI4Yb rhythm like this feels more decent to catch everything you wanted here so give it a shot pretty cool, added
00:49:272 (5) - I think this does do nothing here, extend the slider into 3/2 may work well for the sound in the song, the vocals etc.. sure
01:00:233 (1,2) - maybe should tilt them some more, it's currently unbalanced with how the sliders are mapped around, and that causes some awkward playability https://delisha.s-ul.eu/lceRv12q done
01:05:810 - a circle? you haven't had any blank thats longer than 1/1 before yes!
01:31:003 (1,2) - 01:32:349 (3,4) - you could stack these notes like you did for 00:24:464 (1,2) - it will look clearner, you can do this for 01:24:464 (4,1) - 01:29:080 (2,3) - only if you want though it makes the map neater didn't change the last two cuz i changed stuff on that section so it wouldn't look so good

only thing I've noticed is the chorus is less intense than the other part, like 00:57:926 (3) - can be a 1/2 repeat slider instead for the vocals, a circle at 01:01:003 - and so move 01:01:195 (2) - by 1/2 tick, so you remove the slider where was at 01:01:580 - but add a circle at 01:01:964 - instead, to make the rhythm more suitable with how this section is normally mapped out, it's still up to you but increasing the intensity at THE KIAI is a definitely good idea!
tried something with major focus on vocals, tell me if it's betta!!

[Easy]
haha combo is inconsistent actually feels like you can just make everything as long as possible
setting is edgy can u go with like ar3 od2 hp2 or whatever ok
00:17:349 (5) - what slider is it similar to 00:05:041 (4) - on rhythm, it's rotated like this cuz the original pattern didn't support a linear one :/
00:28:118 (4) - I personally think how you didn't tilt the slider on 00:30:810 (2) - is pretty cool but 00:28:118 (4) - flows kinda odd according to how 00:26:580 (2,3) - flow, consider tilt the (4) a bit? tilt
01:09:272 (1,2) - 01:24:656 (1,2) - should swap the nc because you usually put a nc wheres the last note before a 1/1 blank fixed
Delis
i trynna get trynna in the bezier world
Ataraxia
pelo menos meu cu é virgem

to feliz viado , so tipo, NAO QUITA DESSA VEZ

rank plex
Mirash
Gra
Tz тryппа :owo:
Ho new page hello
Net0
Aí sim :>
Ataraxia
Xinnoh
Bariton
sera que o trynna consegue rankear isso antes de 2018!?1w???
Topic Starter
Trynna
im not even trying to rank it before 2018 anymore, no one is interested
Battle


[General]
metadata ?
consider changing ur combo colors cuz they don't rly fit ur bg

[Easy]
00:11:195 - to 00:12:733 - im not quite sure what rhythm youre following here and it kinda just seems out of place, if it's a low frequency i can't hear it so you kinda have to tell me what you're following here
00:21:580 - also this pause i can't really tell what you're following so pls clarify
tbh kinda the first part with pauses I don't really get cuz they kinda just sound like they're making their own rhythms since quite a few strong sounds are being ignored

[Hard]
00:25:810 (4,1) - consider not stacking this since every stack you've done indicated 1/2, having a 1/1 pause can be confusing

[Insane]
00:44:656 (1,2) - im not really liking this stack since you're coming out of consecutive 1/2 stacks so maybe try to move 2?
01:32:541 (2,3) - tbh low key triggering that this isn't perfectly linear lol

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Topic Starter
Trynna

Battle wrote:



[General]
metadata ?

Delis wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndPZvjBidEk official video
consider changing ur combo colors cuz they don't rly fit ur bg fixed

[Easy]
00:11:195 - to 00:12:733 - im not quite sure what rhythm youre following here and it kinda just seems out of place, if it's a low frequency i can't hear it so you kinda have to tell me what you're following here oh, those pauses were a tribute to Alacat's diff, i find it pretty cool and the pauses help newbies in some way and after that things get more intense and stuff
00:21:580 - also this pause i can't really tell what you're following so pls clarify fixed this one
tbh kinda the first part with pauses I don't really get cuz they kinda just sound like they're making their own rhythms since quite a few strong sounds are being ignored

[Hard]
00:25:810 (4,1) - consider not stacking this since every stack you've done indicated 1/2, having a 1/1 pause can be confusing now stacked with 00:26:772 (2) - instead

[Insane]
00:44:656 (1,2) - im not really liking this stack since you're coming out of consecutive 1/2 stacks so maybe try to move 2? insane players can distinguish these things, also 00:44:656 (1) - this beat has a potential to a pause after it, so stacking would be the more appropriate imo
01:32:541 (2,3) - tbh low key triggering that this isn't perfectly linear lol fixed this thing

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Battle
delis poked me
Mirash
Gratz OwO
Delis
omegalul
Topic Starter
Trynna
Delis poked me too
Ataraxia
fuck finally xD congratz
Yohanes
O, grats!!
schoolboy
😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘
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