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Raja

Chromoxx wrote:

Insane:
00:13:334 (4,5) - this overlap is kinda ugly imo Fixed
00:16:334 (4,5) - same about the overlap Fixed
01:06:209 (1,2) - this overlap kinda stands out too much imo since you aren't overlapping anything else in this part, it looks cleaner than the last ones at least though Fixed
01:06:771 (2,3) - blanket is slightly off Fixed
02:18:209 (1,2,3) - luckily these aren't squares lol true
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Chromoxx
with bright i meant something more colorful i guess, like yellow + red or something
Topic Starter
Syph

Chromoxx wrote:

with bright i meant something more colorful i guess, like yellow + red or something
i'd prefer sticking to the colors of the backgrounds, it's what i do in all of my maps, don't really like picking colors that don't match the bg
Chromoxx
okay, bubbled! :D
Raja
in the middle of the night :3 in my dreams ~~~~ (my dreams owo) u shud see the things we do >/////< baby <3
Topic Starter
Syph
shut up!!!
Gabe
Hello, I have some concerns on mapset!

mithew's Easy
  1. 00:38:459 (4) - That is a slider-shape I would not recommend in an easy, because we don't really see the shape of it, so it kinda acts like an holding circle. It will be better to "open it" while keeping your main idea. Do the same thing for 00:44:459 (4) - and all the similar ones on the second half of the map.
  2. 00:48:209 - 01:54:209 - 02:36:209 - You could maybe force these breaks to be starting on these timestamps? That would be neat.
  3. 03:04:709 (4) - Considering the curve of the last slider, you should move this slider to make it follow the flow of it instead of making a perfect straight line from the end of the previous slider to this one. For this instance, just move this slider a little bit more to the right.
  4. 03:09:959 - Coming here, I believe you can use a better rhythm, because I feel you are skipping something. Maybe you could do something similar to what's shown below, which is something to 02:57:209 (2,3,4) - :
  5. 03:24:584 (1) - Delete the reverse arrow of this slider to make the difficulty finish on 03:24:959 - like every diffs (except Lucas, which I am also asking the same.. lol)


Normal
This difficulty is undermapped considering the difficulty before this one. Please map something between 01:00:209 - to 01:09:209 - and between 02:06:209 - to 02:15:209 -

Lukas' Hard
You can actually delete these green timing points since they are unnecessary: 01:11:084 - , 01:11:834 - , 02:17:084 - , 02:17:834 -
  1. 00:00:209 (1,1,1,1,2,1,1) - You should maybe use the new combos in a more logical way. You could be following the sounds and group the objects separated by the moments which has no sounds. For an example, delete the new combo to 00:01:709 (1) - , 00:04:709 (1) - and 00:07:709 (1) - and since 00:05:459 (2) - has a different sounds from the other two sliders, you could be adding a new combo to this one.
  2. 00:12:771 (2) - Missing a clap for consistency.
  3. 01:40:709 (1) - To play with the aesthetic a bit, maybe you can move this slider to make a straight line with 01:39:959 (3,4,5,6) - ?
  4. 02:35:459 (5,6,7,1) - Same as mentioned above.
  5. 02:57:209 (1) - There's some hitsounds on this slider that should be deleted to follow the other similar sliders.
  6. 03:12:584 - I think there should be a finish drum hitsounds instead of this whistle.
  7. 03:17:459 (3) - The whistle sounds a bit too loud because of the previous one. There should actually be a normal sampletset without any other hitsounds attached to it. It will follow 03:15:959 (3) - .
  8. 03:24:959 - Change this slider for a circle to finish it at a consistent time on the whole mapset.


Kaine's Insane
  1. 00:39:771 - 00:42:771 - Missing a drum-clap here. (If it is not missing, I'd recommend adding one has there are dominant sounds on these timestamps)
  2. 01:12:209 - & 02:18:209 - I feel like these hitsounds are quite messed up during these parts. Either they are missing or either they are not consistent with 00:00:209 (1) - . You can have a look to the other difficulties to guide ya'.
  3. 01:21:021 (4,5,6) - Make these objects aligned
  4. 02:48:584 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - It would be very nice if these objects were placed like this, which would give more emphasis to the next slider object.


Extra
  1. 02:17:084 (1) - to 02:36:209 (1) - being a copy-paste of 01:11:084 (1) - 01:30:115 (12) - really was not a great idea. The first segment is following the vocal with spacing emphasis and since you have copied this part, you would normally try to focus on the vocals as well for the second part, which is totally not the case. I would like you to rework this part again to follow either the vocals or the instruments on the second part.
  2. 00:12:771 (2) - Missing a clap
  3. 02:55:709 (1) - Shouldn't this slider's head have a clap with Additions set to 'Auto'? It will mostly follow the melody of the next hitsounds.
  4. 02:59:271 (2) - For consistency, add a drum clap here
  5. 03:17:459 (3) - Delete the whistle on the head of this slider
Topic Starter
Syph

Gabe wrote:

Hello, I have some concerns on mapset!

Normal
This difficulty is undermapped considering the difficulty before this one. Please map something between 01:00:209 - to 01:09:209 - and between 02:06:209 - to 02:15:209 - I don't really see the problem here, mithew's diff is a guest difficulty so obviously it's gonna be different from mine. I prefer having these parts empty.

Lukas' Hard
You can actually delete these green timing points since they are unnecessary: 01:11:084 - , 01:11:834 - , 02:17:084 - , 02:17:834 - ok
  1. 00:00:209 (1,1,1,1,2,1,1) - You should maybe use the new combos in a more logical way. You could be following the sounds and group the objects separated by the moments which has no sounds. For an example, delete the new combo to 00:01:709 (1) - , 00:04:709 (1) - and 00:07:709 (1) - and since 00:05:459 (2) - has a different sounds from the other two sliders, you could be adding a new combo to this one. okay
  2. 00:12:771 (2) - Missing a clap for consistency. yea
  3. 01:40:709 (1) - To play with the aesthetic a bit, maybe you can move this slider to make a straight line with 01:39:959 (3,4,5,6) - ? don't think it's neccesary
  4. 02:35:459 (5,6,7,1) - Same as mentioned above. fixed here as it's more obvious
  5. 02:57:209 (1) - There's some hitsounds on this slider that should be deleted to follow the other similar sliders.how so?
  6. 03:12:584 - I think there should be a finish drum hitsounds instead of this whistle.I hitsounded this to the synth(?) not the drum, you can hear it over it
  7. 03:17:459 (3) - The whistle sounds a bit too loud because of the previous one. There should actually be a normal sampletset without any other hitsounds attached to it. It will follow 03:15:959 (3) - . yeah
  8. 03:24:959 - Change this slider for a circle to finish it at a consistent time on the whole mapset. ok


Kaine's Insane
  1. 00:39:771 - 00:42:771 - Missing a drum-clap here. (If it is not missing, I'd recommend adding one has there are dominant sounds on these timestamps) I don't think they're neccesary as they're on sliderends and it'd sound weird
  2. 01:12:209 - & 02:18:209 - I feel like these hitsounds are quite messed up during these parts. Either they are missing or either they are not consistent with 00:00:209 (1) - . You can have a look to the other difficulties to guide ya'. should be fixed
  3. 01:21:021 (4,5,6) - Make these objects aligned don't think that's what he was going for since looking 2 seconds further shows this 01:22:334 (2,3,4) -
  4. 02:48:584 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - It would be very nice if these objects were placed like this, which would give more emphasis to the next slider object. okay


Extra
  1. 02:17:084 (1) - to 02:36:209 (1) - being a copy-paste of 01:11:084 (1) - 01:30:115 (12) - really was not a great idea. The first segment is following the vocal with spacing emphasis and since you have copied this part, you would normally try to focus on the vocals as well for the second part, which is totally not the case. I would like you to rework this part again to follow either the vocals or the instruments on the second part. I'm sorry but what's wrong with this? the way I map is by following both vocals and instruments at the same time, spacing emphasis is a combination of both of them too hence why I think I can copy paste this, to me it's completely fine as I think it perfectly fits the 2nd part too even though the vocals are different as everything follows the instruments nicely.
  2. 00:12:771 (2) - Missing a clap indeed
  3. 02:55:709 (1) - Shouldn't this slider's head have a clap with Additions set to 'Auto'? It will mostly follow the melody of the next hitsounds. I wanted the soft whistle because the vocal is strong
  4. 02:59:271 (2) - For consistency, add a drum clap here yeah
  5. 03:17:459 (3) - Delete the whistle on the head of this slider why? lol there's a kick on it and I'm following it with the drum whistle as it's similar
applied for kaine as he's on a trip with work or something

I don't see the reason for a pop, but whatever I guess, thanks for the mod
Gabe

Syph wrote:

Gabe wrote:

Hello, I have some concerns on mapset!

Normal
This difficulty is undermapped considering the difficulty before this one. Please map something between 01:00:209 - to 01:09:209 - and between 02:06:209 - to 02:15:209 - I don't really see the problem here, mithew's diff is a guest difficulty so obviously it's gonna be different from mine. I prefer having these parts empty.
While I made a comparison with the Easy difficulty only, you should actually look to the overall mapset. Normal is the only difficulty that has three full breaks, and I believe it makes it undermapped. My point still stands, and it would be better to make these minimally consistent to have these sections mapped.

Syph wrote:

Gabe wrote:

Lukas' Hard
  1. 02:57:209 (1) - There's some hitsounds on this slider that should be deleted to follow the other similar sliders.how so? hm, delete the drum sampleset to 02:57:396 -, as it doesn't have any particular sound here

Syph wrote:

Gabe wrote:

Extra
02:17:084 (1) - to 02:36:209 (1) - being a copy-paste of 01:11:084 (1) - 01:30:115 (12) - really was not a great idea. The first segment is following the vocal with spacing emphasis and since you have copied this part, you would normally try to focus on the vocals as well for the second part, which is totally not the case. I would like you to rework this part again to follow either the vocals or the instruments on the second part. I'm sorry but what's wrong with this? the way I map is by following both vocals and instruments at the same time, spacing emphasis is a combination of both of them too hence why I think I can copy paste this, to me it's completely fine as I think it perfectly fits the 2nd part too even though the vocals are different as everything follows the instruments nicely.
The issue with this copy-pasted section is that, the first section, you are emphasizing vocals with the spacing of the objects and with the hitsounds. Coming to the second part, which is pasted, the intonations are not the same, considering that you are following both the vocals and the instruments on the second part while you were only following the vocals on the first part, and since the player got used to the first part for the vocals, it is confusing to see the same part again, but not emphasizing the stronger parts of the second section.

Syph wrote:

I don't see the reason for a pop, but whatever I guess, thanks for the mod
I decided to bubble pop for the breaks in Normal and the copy-pasted section in the Extra difficulty. Count this as a veto.
celerih

Syph wrote:

the way I map is by following both vocals and instruments at the same time, spacing emphasis is a combination of both of them too hence why I think I can copy paste this, to me it's completely fine as I think it perfectly fits the 2nd part too even though the vocals are different as everything follows the instruments nicely.
This doesn't make sense. If you follow both vocals and instruments, then why don't you change the map when the vocals do? If you always followed instruments only then yeah I'd see why you'd want no variation but here there's clear variation in one of the two, and the map should follow that.

If you want to follow both vocals and instruments at the same time fine, but don't just randomly stop following one of them so you can copy paste a section

I agree with Gabe here that the variation between the sections should warrant some kind of variation in the map.
Topic Starter
Syph

celerih wrote:

Syph wrote:

the way I map is by following both vocals and instruments at the same time, spacing emphasis is a combination of both of them too hence why I think I can copy paste this, to me it's completely fine as I think it perfectly fits the 2nd part too even though the vocals are different as everything follows the instruments nicely.
This doesn't make sense. If you follow both vocals and instruments, then why don't you change the map when the vocals do? If you always followed instruments only then yeah I'd see why you'd want no variation but here there's clear variation in one of the two, and the map should follow that.

If you want to follow both vocals and instruments at the same time fine, but don't just randomly stop following one of them so you can copy paste a section
I keep both in mind when doing spacing, I honestly don't see the problem with it lol it's not like "just so you can copy paste a section" as frankly I really don't care about saving time or anything, I did it because I think it fits well. just because I say I follow both doesn't mean I do it everywhere either, e.g in the kiai I have bigger spacing 02:50:271 (2,3) - here for the kick in instrumentals and big spacing here 03:06:209 (1,2,3,4,5) - because of the vocals being stronger. I follow what I think has more impact in the song at that point

basically 99% of the spacing in the part mentioned is based on the instruments which is why I think it fits nicely in the 2nd section too as the instrumentals are the same rhythm wise, I basically disregarded the vocal there

-- also sorry if it comes off as rude but this is my thoughts on it and I think there's no need for more people to come in to try and prove someone else's point when I could just talk to 1 person instead of having to explain the same thing to multiple people. thanks for your input though
mithew

Gabe wrote:

Hello, I have some concerns on mapset!

mithew's Easy
  1. 00:38:459 (4) - That is a slider-shape I would not recommend in an easy, because we don't really see the shape of it, so it kinda acts like an holding circle. It will be better to "open it" while keeping your main idea. Do the same thing for 00:44:459 (4) - and all the similar ones on the second half of the map. ok
  2. 00:48:209 - 01:54:209 - 02:36:209 - You could maybe force these breaks to be starting on these timestamps? That would be neat. ok
  3. 03:04:709 (4) - Considering the curve of the last slider, you should move this slider to make it follow the flow of it instead of making a perfect straight line from the end of the previous slider to this one. For this instance, just move this slider a little bit more to the right. uhh did smth else
  4. 03:09:959 - Coming here, I believe you can use a better rhythm, because I feel you are skipping something. Maybe you could do something similar to what's shown below, which is something to 02:57:209 (2,3,4) - : rhythms fine imo, fits changing vocals well
  5. 03:24:584 (1) - Delete the reverse arrow of this slider to make the difficulty finish on 03:24:959 - like every diffs (except Lucas, which I am also asking the same.. lol)ok
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494,356,85709,2,0,L|497:231,1,94.9999999999999,0|2,0:0|1:3,0:0:0:0:
497,166,86459,2,0,L|497:113,1,47.5,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
381,37,87209,1,4,3:0:0:0:
381,37,87584,2,0,B|312:55|250:48|250:48|272:69|286:109,1,190,8|4,3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
284,286,89084,2,0,B|205:296|205:296|205:275,1,94.9999999999999,4|12,3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
124,229,89834,1,8,3:0:0:0:
42,180,90209,6,0,P|125:136|208:185,1,190,6|0,1:2|1:0,0:0:0:0:
261,253,91334,1,8,3:0:0:0:
347,294,91709,2,0,B|422:315|422:315|429:286,1,94.9999999999999,0|8,3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
444,204,92459,2,0,P|425:163|456:130,1,94.9999999999999,2|0,1:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
374,84,93209,2,0,P|295:118|186:64,1,190,4|2,3:0|1:3,0:0:0:0:
109,63,94334,2,0,L|106:166,1,94.9999999999999,8|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
106,252,95084,1,8,3:0:0:0:
179,311,95459,2,0,P|224:308|249:346,1,94.9999999999999,2|0,1:3|3:0,0:0:0:0:
341,371,96209,6,0,B|372:273|314:279|359:171,1,190,4|0,3:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
402,103,97334,1,8,3:0:0:0:
333,37,97709,2,0,L|210:32,1,94.9999999999999,0|8,3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
142,33,98459,2,0,P|131:77|81:73,1,94.9999999999999,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
51,166,99209,6,0,B|157:203|141:144|247:174,1,190,6|6,1:3|1:3,0:0:0:0:
401,267,100709,2,0,P|352:278|293:257,1,94.9999999999999,6|4,1:3|1:3,0:0:0:0:
217,244,101459,1,6,1:3:0:0:
233,337,101834,1,6,1:3:0:0:
29,137,102959,6,0,P|107:167|215:128,1,190,6|0,1:2|3:0,0:0:0:0:
247,47,104084,1,4,3:0:0:0:
309,118,104459,2,0,P|355:127|351:177,1,94.9999999999999,2|0,1:3|3:0,0:0:0:0:
292,237,105209,2,0,P|351:200|455:262,1,190,4|2,3:0|1:3,0:0:0:0:
291,354,106709,1,0,3:0:0:0:
197,344,107084,2,0,P|160:338|95:366,2,94.9999999999999,4|2|0,3:0|1:3|3:0,0:0:0:0:
233,256,108209,6,0,P|243:162|175:90,1,190,4|2,3:0|1:3,0:0:0:0:
89,81,109334,1,4,3:0:0:0:
122,169,109709,1,0,3:0:0:0:
269,49,110459,2,0,P|312:64|294:117,1,94.9999999999999,2|0,1:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
308,201,111209,2,0,L|502:211,1,190,6|6,1:3|1:3,0:0:0:0:
333,305,112709,2,0,L|235:300,1,94.9999999999999,6|6,1:3|1:3,0:0:0:0:
143,295,113459,1,6,1:3:0:0:
48,291,113834,1,6,1:3:0:0:
98,211,114209,5,6,1:3:0:0:
66,325,125834,5,2,0:0:0:0:
148,278,126209,2,0,B|202:301|262:286|262:286|239:325,2,142.5,2|2|2,3:2|3:2|3:2,0:0:0:0:
95,198,127709,2,0,P|57:246|69:327,2,142.5,2|2|2,3:2|3:2|3:2,0:0:0:0:
188,179,129209,2,0,B|201:142|185:106|185:106|222:111|270:88,2,142.5,2|2|2,1:2|3:2|3:2,0:0:0:0:
220,268,130709,2,0,P|297:253|374:334,1,190,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
466,310,131834,1,2,3:2:0:0:
469,215,132209,6,0,B|484:133|450:163|470:70,2,142.5,2|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
377,188,133709,2,0,P|310:169|228:198,2,142.5,2|2|2,1:2|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,135209,12,0,136709,0:0:0:0:
13,98,138209,6,0,P|104:123|181:60,2,190,6|4|4,1:2|3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
166,212,140459,2,0,L|173:267,1,47.5,2|0,1:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
40,312,141209,2,0,P|131:287|208:350,2,190,4|8|8,3:0|3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
209,227,143459,2,0,P|190:213|158:209,1,47.5,2|0,1:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
305,231,144209,6,0,B|299:185|299:185|310:137,2,94.9999999999999,4|0|0,1:3|3:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
313,327,145334,1,8,3:0:0:0:
221,303,145709,2,0,P|135:274|42:307,1,190,2|0,3:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
24,213,146834,1,0,0:0:0:0:
106,165,147209,2,0,B|108:122|90:91|90:91|102:18,2,142.5,4|8|8,3:0|3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
196,194,148709,2,0,P|277:169|377:226,1,190,2|0,3:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
489,358,150209,6,0,B|483:306|483:306|500:256,2,94.9999999999999,4|0|0,3:0|0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
394,343,151334,1,2,3:0:0:0:
305,309,151709,2,0,P|216:342|130:297,1,190,0|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
34,141,153209,6,0,P|77:129|137:147,1,94.9999999999999,6|8,1:3|3:0,0:0:0:0:
203,187,153959,2,0,P|213:127|119:47,1,190,6|6,1:3|1:3,0:0:0:0:
39,87,155084,2,0,L|36:186,2,94.9999999999999,6|6|10,1:3|1:3|1:3,0:0:0:0:
106,19,156209,5,0,0:0:0:0:
150,81,169709,6,0,P|67:111|73:233,1,190,6|2,1:2|1:3,0:0:0:0:
36,296,170834,1,8,3:0:0:0:
108,356,171209,2,0,B|219:318|188:373|298:335,1,190,0|2,3:0|1:3,0:0:0:0:
453,232,172709,2,0,P|437:154|494:81,2,142.5,2|8|8,1:3|3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
446,327,174209,1,2,0:0:0:0:
363,279,174584,1,2,3:2:0:0:
289,339,174959,2,0,B|251:332|212:349|212:349|202:284|237:205,1,190,2|2,1:3|3:2,0:0:0:0:
228,29,176459,6,0,P|270:45|264:91,1,94.9999999999999,2|8,1:3|3:0,0:0:0:0:
171,104,177209,2,0,B|114:139|48:114|48:114|48:175,1,190,0|2,3:0|1:3,0:0:0:0:
175,315,178709,2,0,P|270:294|364:323,1,190,4|2,3:0|1:3,0:0:0:0:
435,373,179834,1,8,3:0:0:0:
442,183,180584,2,0,B|452:124|438:144|448:86,2,94.9999999999999,4|2|0,3:0|1:3|1:0,0:0:0:0:
474,272,181709,6,0,P|422:213|302:256,1,190,6|2,1:2|1:3,0:0:0:0:
385,298,182834,1,8,3:0:0:0:
296,331,183209,2,0,B|259:331|218:350|218:350|202:284|216:228,1,190,2|2,0:0|1:3,0:0:0:0:
218,50,184709,2,0,P|143:68|86:33,2,142.5,4|8|8,3:0|3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
313,56,186209,1,2,0:0:0:0:
407,62,186584,1,4,3:0:0:0:
498,36,186959,2,0,P|454:80|495:211,1,190,2|6,1:3|1:2,0:0:0:0:
469,291,188084,6,0,L|359:298,1,94.9999999999999,0|2,0:0|1:3,0:0:0:0:
270,299,188834,2,0,P|246:229|292:111,1,190,8|10,3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
233,40,189959,1,2,1:3:0:0:
157,97,190334,2,0,P|116:112|41:84,2,94.9999999999999,2|4|2,0:0|3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
338,40,191834,2,0,B|326:96|348:71|338:150,1,94.9999999999999,8|2,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
355,228,192584,2,0,P|417:218|468:242,2,94.9999999999999,2|2|2,0:0|1:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
268,268,193709,6,0,B|262:222|262:222|273:174,2,94.9999999999999,6|2|0,1:2|0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
249,361,194834,1,8,3:0:0:0:
175,300,195209,2,0,P|89:271|-4:304,1,190,2|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
142,177,196709,2,0,B|144:134|126:103|126:103|138:30,2,142.5,6|8|8,3:0|3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
232,204,198209,2,0,P|310:251|398:204,1,190,2|2,0:0|1:3,0:0:0:0:
416,23,199709,6,0,P|462:15|507:30,2,94.9999999999999,8|2|0,3:0|0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
362,102,200834,1,8,3:0:0:0:
284,47,201209,2,0,P|185:75|94:28,1,190,2|2,0:0|1:3,0:0:0:0:
34,217,202709,2,0,P|11:281|23:366,2,142.5,8|8|8,3:0|3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
112,163,204209,1,2,0:0:0:0:
204,186,204584,2,0,B|265:191|245:205|300:204,1,94.9999999999999,4|2,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
Mao
Hello!

One of your beatmaps was recently referred to us for mediation following a Beatmap Nominator veto. The details of the veto can be found here.

After discussion amongst members of the Quality Assurance Team Disqualification Branch, we have decided to uphold the veto. The reasons for this decision are stated briefly below:

  1. 28% of the Normal difficulty are breaks even though there is a drumlayer starting at 01:00:209 - and 02:06:209 - . The large amount of downtime can feel very underwhelming for the player.
  2. 02:17:084 (1) - to 02:36:209 (1) - being a copy-paste of 01:11:084 (1) - 01:30:115 (12) on the highest difficulty is unfitting because both sections are significantly different which creates a severe lack of contrast. The first section is following a mixture of beat and vocals in the map (regarding rhythm and placement emphasis), while the second one only follows beat. But the copy-paste makes some of the patterns (those more impacted by vocals) not feel connected to the music in the second part. Examples:

    - 01:21:584 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the large amount of jumps here suddenly compared to the low spacing before only makes sense to emphasize the more articulated vocals, vs:
    - 02:27:584 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - in the later section which does not fit due to the beat still being the same as in the previous measures (and not following the new vocal layer either)

    - 01:23:084 (3,4) - 1/1s like these clearly follow the vocals too, to emphasize the articulation again. the beat also has a strong sound but it'd be better off represent with a slider similar to 01:20:084 (2) - , vs
    - 02:30:209 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) -this, which is now neither emphasizing vocals nor beat properly

    Since the instances where this issue applies are not limited to the above but rather to the whole section, we recommend a remap of the second section that follows both beat and vocals to fix this issue.


The beatmap may not be re-nominated at this time until appropriate changes are made that remedy the issues present.

Once changes have been made to the beatmap, both the Nominator who performed the beatmap veto, as well as the QAT members upholding it, will recheck the beatmap and decide individually if the issues have been satisfactorily addressed.
Topic Starter
Syph
I'll most likely be dropping this then, sry for the people involved
Topic Starter
Syph

Mao wrote:

Hello!

One of your beatmaps was recently referred to us for mediation following a Beatmap Nominator veto. The details of the veto can be found here.

After discussion amongst members of the Quality Assurance Team Disqualification Branch, we have decided to uphold the veto. The reasons for this decision are stated briefly below:

  1. 28% of the Normal difficulty are breaks even though there is a drumlayer starting at 01:00:209 - and 02:06:209 - . The large amount of downtime can feel very underwhelming for the player.
  2. 02:17:084 (1) - to 02:36:209 (1) - being a copy-paste of 01:11:084 (1) - 01:30:115 (12) on the highest difficulty is unfitting because both sections are significantly different which creates a severe lack of contrast. The first section is following a mixture of beat and vocals in the map (regarding rhythm and placement emphasis), while the second one only follows beat. But the copy-paste makes some of the patterns (those more impacted by vocals) not feel connected to the music in the second part. Examples:

    - 01:21:584 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the large amount of jumps here suddenly compared to the low spacing before only makes sense to emphasize the more articulated vocals, vs: I focused on instrumentals here, you can clearly hear a drum and really significant kick here which is why I made these "jumps".
    - 02:27:584 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - in the later section which does not fit due to the beat still being the same as in the previous measures (and not following the new vocal layer either)

    - 01:23:084 (3,4) - 1/1s like these clearly follow the vocals too, to emphasize the articulation again. yes, the vocal does stop here. did I choose to place a circle because of vocals ending? no not really actually, the strong kick sound here is what mainly made me do it, but yes I thought it'd be nice in combination with the vocal ending here, hence why I think it works perfectly fine in the second section. the beat also has a strong sound but it'd be better off represent with a slider similar to 01:20:084 (2) - , the sounds are completely different so I really don't know why you think it would be better off like that.
    - 02:30:209 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) -this, which is now neither emphasizing vocals nor beat properly

    Since the instances where this issue applies are not limited to the above but rather to the whole section, we recommend a remap of the second section that follows both beat and vocals to fix this issue.


The beatmap may not be re-nominated at this time until appropriate changes are made that remedy the issues present.

Once changes have been made to the beatmap, both the Nominator who performed the beatmap veto, as well as the QAT members upholding it, will recheck the beatmap and decide individually if the issues have been satisfactorily addressed.
Hello! thank you very much for looking at this and somehow trying to find reasons to keep the veto on here by deciding you know better than the mapper themselves what they mapped to.

that said, I did remap a few parts in the section along with fixing the stuff in normal as I thought letting this map die for such a stupid fucking reason is not worth it. hope it's okay now!!
Lasse
unrelated to the veto stuff, did you ever consider mapping 03:14:459 (5,6,7,8) - 03:15:959 (5,6,7,8) - etc as doubles instead of circle+triple? the song has some really clear blue tick emphasis and the red tick don't have anything "special" since the hihats are on each 1/4 tick
basically something like https://i.imgur.com/KmZhrjI.jpg
would be really simple to change and make the unique rhythm in the song stand out much more
Topic Starter
Syph

Lasse wrote:

unrelated to the veto stuff, did you ever consider mapping 03:14:459 (5,6,7,8) - 03:15:959 (5,6,7,8) - etc as doubles instead of circle+triple? the song has some really clear blue tick emphasis and the red tick don't have anything "special" since the hihats are on each 1/4 tick
basically something like https://i.imgur.com/KmZhrjI.jpg
would be really simple to change and make the unique rhythm in the song stand out much more
haven't thought about that at all actually, I'm not good with """"complicated"""" (not so complicated) rhythm but I guess I'll try this out

thanks!
Okoratu
o_O this is surprising.

Are you open for opinions on this?
Or do you not reconsider under any circumstance (both parties)?

[normal]
01:22:334 (4,7) - 01:33:021 (7,1) - 02:28:334 (4,7) - 03:12:584 (6,1) - btw i think you can clean these up
02:51:959 (6) - half of this thing is under the hp bar please come on what lol

01:00:209 - and the other newly mapped part, i think you can easily mix in 3/2 reversing sliders to provide some variety among the note placement, i think that would also make the part more interesting because it's not just remember what this rhtyhm is and execute it 5 times

[extra]
  1. 02:29:834 - did you accidentally delete something here?
  2. i dont know why this copy pasted section needs the contrast btw? it's still perfectly fitting to the backing instruments of the song and i didnt even notice that the first section that it's copied from is actually also mapping the vocals - i thought its just the backing sounds because that's what the mapper hitsounded
  3. the spacing issues brought up dont seem pressing enough to just stop the map over - like idk why these are so important and not like the spacing to 01:54:209 (1) - or whatever (hello 7x spacing can you please nerf this a bit)


overall idk what to think of this the main reasons for blocking this seem super nitpicky to me and considering the average map i looked at in recent times these diffs in question here aren't even all that stupid but uhhh

[Kaine]
  1. Hitsounding seems unfitting in the following sections: 00:12:209 - (a completely different rhythm from what you follow mainly is hitsounded as the only thing) 02:24:209 - 03:13:709 - (map vocals and hitsound anything but them)
  2. 00:21:959 (3,1) - should be more intense according to your own patterns in 00:09:959 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - i think that also would make sense for most other sections that use this, since the song builds up to those mainly and you spam the lamest ass rhythms over them that i could imagine
  3. 01:54:209 - this part has severe spacing problems like uhh... the song slows down, you go to pattern based mapping - which is fine - but it's huge af and contrasts what the song is providing in this section, especially jumps from 01:54:771 (2,3,1) - 01:56:271 (2,3,1) - 01:58:334 (3,1) - 01:59:271 (2,3,1) - 02:00:771 (2,3) - 02:06:209 (1,2) - 02:08:271 (2,3,1) - 02:13:334 (3,1) - are like super huge for the only reason of some symmetric pattern
  4. 02:24:209 - you kind of map vocals and fill the rest in with uhh idk what actually, i think if you were mapping vocals you should be mapping 02:26:271 - and the 3/4 for 02:24:209 (1,2,3) - way more clearly - right now you have like this super obvious vocal focus wit hthe reverse sliders and super unfitting filler rhythm thrown in - i think making it more clear what you're following is going to be easier to comprehend and wil lfeel more satisfying to play for this section
  5. 03:13:709 - that you just do the same thing as you did in the section before the kiai (which ironically the Extra now is vetoed for by the QAT but this diff isnt lul) is kind of lame? like you bring nothing new and you dont even do something remotely more interesting than the part you had previously (and the previous point also applies to it)


[lukas]
  1. 01:36:771 (2,3) - clean this up maybe? it looks pretty lol as is
  2. 02:45:209 (1) - this spinner is topkek levels of unfitting because it forces you to do something over the song literally fading out and isnt even silent or getting more silent its just like lul move your cursor as fast as you can on a fadeout
Topic Starter
Syph

Okoratu wrote:

o_O this is surprising.

Are you open for opinions on this?
Or do you not reconsider under any circumstance (both parties)?

[normal]
01:22:334 (4,7) - 01:33:021 (7,1) - 02:28:334 (4,7) - 03:12:584 (6,1) - btw i think you can clean these up they're clean enough i think, barely noticable in gameplay
02:51:959 (6) - half of this thing is under the hp bar please come on what lol fixed

01:00:209 - and the other newly mapped part, i think you can easily mix in 3/2 reversing sliders to provide some variety among the note placement, i think that would also make the part more interesting because it's not just remember what this rhtyhm is and execute it 5 times just went with easy repetitive rhythm here since it's a calm section, but replaced everything with 3/2 instead of what i had before

[extra]
  1. 02:29:834 - did you accidentally delete something here?
  2. i dont know why this copy pasted section needs the contrast btw? it's still perfectly fitting to the backing instruments of the song and i didnt even notice that the first section that it's copied from is actually also mapping the vocals - i thought its just the backing sounds because that's what the mapper hitsounded
  3. the spacing issues brought up dont seem pressing enough to just stop the map over - like idk why these are so important and not like the spacing to 01:54:209 (1) - or whatever (hello 7x spacing can you please nerf this a bit)


overall idk what to think of this the main reasons for blocking this seem super nitpicky to me and considering the average map i looked at in recent times these diffs in question here aren't even all that stupid but uhhh fixed both

[lukas]
  1. 01:36:771 (2,3) - clean this up maybe? it looks pretty lol as is fixed
  2. 02:45:209 (1) - this spinner is topkek levels of unfitting because it forces you to do something over the song literally fading out and isnt even silent or getting more silent its just like lul move your cursor as fast as you can on a fadeout removed
thanks oko! e: will be updating after i get kaine's update
Raja
[Kaine]
  1. Hitsounding seems unfitting in the following sections: 00:12:209 - (a completely different rhythm from what you follow mainly is hitsounded as the only thing) 02:24:209 - 03:13:709 - (map vocals and hitsound anything but them) Syph chan hitsounded so she will decide
  2. 00:21:959 (3,1) - should be more intense according to your own patterns in 00:09:959 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - i think that also would make sense for most other sections that use this, since the song builds up to those mainly and you spam the lamest ass rhythms over them that i could imagine i changed it a bit to emphasize
  3. 01:54:209 - this part has severe spacing problems like uhh... the song slows down, you go to pattern based mapping - which is fine - but it's huge af and contrasts what the song is providing in this section, especially jumps from 01:54:771 (2,3,1) - 01:56:271 (2,3,1) - 01:58:334 (3,1) - 01:59:271 (2,3,1) - 02:00:771 (2,3) - 02:06:209 (1,2) - 02:08:271 (2,3,1) - 02:13:334 (3,1) - are like super huge for the only reason of some symmetric pattern changed rhythms
  4. 02:24:209 - you kind of map vocals and fill the rest in with uhh idk what actually, i think if you were mapping vocals you should be mapping 02:26:271 - and the 3/4 for 02:24:209 (1,2,3) - way more clearly - right now you have like this super obvious vocal focus wit hthe reverse sliders and super unfitting filler rhythm thrown in - i think making it more clear what you're following is going to be easier to comprehend and wil lfeel more satisfying to play for this section same for here
  5. 03:13:709 - that you just do the same thing as you did in the section before the kiai (which ironically the Extra now is vetoed for by the QAT but this diff isnt lul) is kind of lame? like you bring nothing new and you dont even do something remotely more interesting than the part you had previously (and the previous point also applies to it) made the second part Complex but its completely different from before so honestly i have no idea :P
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