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Taylor Swift - ...Ready For It?

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Syph
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 21:14:46

Artist: Taylor Swift
Title: ...Ready For It?
Tags: kaine mithew [_L_u_k_a_s_] reputation
BPM: 160
Filesize: 5676kb
Play Time: 03:24
Difficulties Available:
  1. Extra (5.27 stars, 801 notes)
  2. Kaine's Insane (4.28 stars, 589 notes)
  3. Lukas' Hard (3.03 stars, 412 notes)
  4. mithew's Easy (1.55 stars, 174 notes)
  5. Normal (2.12 stars, 317 notes)
Download: Taylor Swift - ...Ready For It?
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Easy - mithew
Normal - me
Hard - [ L u k a s ]
Insane - Kaine
Extra - me
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21:29 Komore: 01:12:209 (1,2,3,4) - can this b mor interesting..
21:29 Syph: idk how
21:29 Komore: https://puu.sh/y2Vh8/fe46b381a9.png
21:30 Syph: actually i ctrl g every 2nd slider
21:30 Syph: its cute
21:31 Komore: 03:04:334 (8,9,10) - 2 low
21:31 Komore: 03:03:959 (7,8) - i mean
21:31 Syph: u mean it should be further away
21:31 Syph: or no
21:32 Komore: ye
21:32 Syph: oke
21:32 Komore: 03:13:990 (2,3) - mayb https://puu.sh/y2Vnr/01ba78bcee.png
21:33 Komore: rn its kinda huge
21:33 Syph: ehhh
21:33 Syph: its only 160bpm tho
21:33 Syph: so its fine i think
21:34 Komore: was kinda unconfortable and the only one in the section
21:34 Komore: but w/e
21:34 Komore: ok looks good bubbled
mithew
wow good stuff >_<
REUSE-ABLE
mmm sorry to interupt your map. but
01:49:615 (6,1) - why this is so close?
02:05:834 - this sound like stream. my opinion is maybe add repeat slider. I don't know it's my opinion
Thank you ~
*sorry if i'm so cringy
WORSTPOLACKEU
Extra

00:25:896 (2) - feels weird to overlap it like that when your map is more clean otherwise, doesn't fit the aesthetics

00:31:896 - this note is not needed, feels weird with the vocal continuing, just make an empty space or a slider

00:48:021 (2) - x461 y28 ? flow

01:18:209 (1,2) - I don't see reason for this spacing here

01:52:334 (5,6,1) - not a fan of linear things like this zz always plays annoying. 01:52:709 (1) - this has lots of impact so this makes no sense to make it exactly the same as previous note

02:24:209 (1,2,3) - same spacing, no reason

02:33:959 (3,4,5) - this is fine since you start the next pattern with emphasis, the previous linear pattern was made like wrong

03:24:209 (1,2,3,4,1) - spacing and angle is not perfect seems sloppy considering your other patterns!

Pretty good not much mostly suggestions

Kaine's Insane

01:09:209 (4) - further away imo, atleast make it not touch the previous slider in this awkward manner, the whole patterning here is not touching each other this seems off

01:12:209 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - make some sliders lol this feels super underwhelming

02:18:209 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - same

02:33:771 (2,2,2) - This could be cleaned up better, nothing wrong with the jumps themselves, just could be patterned much better, looks messy now

03:12:959 (1,2,3,4) - spacing feels so little compared to how intense this part is vocally! those kicksliders will not be followed so the movement will be very reduced

03:13:334 (3,4,1) - and you have this linear jump which is awkward, same direction after 2 low spaced kicksliders just spaced so much, better to have the jumps change direction when a section changes this drastically

Clean up a bit and goood

I gotta go out fast so I'll mod the other diff later if you still need!
GRR SNARL GROWL
Extra

00:09:959 (1,1) - in this part youre following the drums mostly so circles would fit better instead of sliders here since theres not much of a change when you start using circles right after them

00:13:240 (4) - i feel like this overmap is unnecessary

01:12:209 (1,2,3) - since the bass sound youre following doesnt stop at the end of these sliders you could at least extend them to the red tick instead of just having the awkward space in between (also applies to the other sliders like these)

01:24:584 (2,3,4,5) - imo you should make the spacing here just as low as 01:23:459 (4,5,6,7) and 01:26:459 (3,4,5,6) because there isnt much of a reason for the bigger spacing

02:05:834 - you seem to try and map as many blue tick rhythms as you can with the hats and stuff so i think mapping these 1/4s would fit well

02:30:584 (2,3,4,5) - same as 01:24:584 (2,3,4,5)

03:17:834 (5,6,1) - you could go a bit higher on the spacing to emphasize vocals

03:23:084 (2) - i would just change this to circles so you follow the drum on the sliderend

Kaine's Insane

00:21:959 (3,4,5,1) - maybe increase spacing here to emphasize buildup

01:39:584 (2,3) - make these a slider to fit with how you map this part in the rest of the map

01:51:959 (3,1) - might wanna blanket these (you could move 01:52:146 (4) as well if you want to keep the triangle there)

02:33:209 (1,2,1,2) - i think 1/2 sliders fit better here with how you mapped it before

03:12:021 (2,3) - spacing this high doesnt fit imo

Lukas' Hard

00:42:959 (3,4,1) - visual spacing is kind of off, i would move 4 a bit closer to 3

01:00:771 (2,3) - for readability these should be further apart, like 01:02:271 (2,3)

01:32:459 (2,3) - the other straight sliders in the map are at sharper angles than these, you should tilt them a bit more since they look linear when the rest of them dont

02:12:771 (2,3) - same as 01:00:771 (2,3), this one is probably fine as is though. it would just make it look more consistent with the rest of the section

Normal

00:00:209 (1) - imo this slider should only be 1 repeat since there's no sound at the end and you don't follow it all the way to the end with the next slider

00:34:521 (4) - i think if you moved this down like this it would improve readability and look cleaner

mithew's Easy

Check ds:
00:35:084 (7)
00:39:209 (5)
00:42:209 (1)
01:17:459 (4) -
02:23:459 (4) -

02:48:584 (1) - this spinner is probably too short and there definitely isnt enough recovery time, you need at least 4 beats of recovery time in an easy
Topic Starter
Syph

REUSE-ABLE wrote:

mmm sorry to interupt your map. but
01:49:615 (6,1) - why this is so close? because it's a 1/4 gap
02:05:834 - this sound like stream. my opinion is maybe add repeat slider. I don't know it's my opinion yeah there is 1/4 but it's not what I want to focus on here
Thank you ~
*sorry if i'm so cringy

WORSTPOLACKEU wrote:

Extra

00:25:896 (2) - feels weird to overlap it like that when your map is more clean otherwise, doesn't fit the aesthetics there's lots of minor ones like these tho so I don't really see the problem, they don't really show in gameplay

00:31:896 - this note is not needed, feels weird with the vocal continuing, just make an empty space or a slider I'm catching the synth

00:48:021 (2) - x461 y28 ? flow moved it to x461 but I went for "symmetry" (more like similar overlapping) here so I don't really wanna move it away from the stream

01:18:209 (1,2) - I don't see reason for this spacing here not sure what you mean here, but I tried going for a slow build-up in spacing here as the part before is so slow

01:52:334 (5,6,1) - not a fan of linear things like this zz always plays annoying. 01:52:709 (1) - this has lots of impact so this makes no sense to make it exactly the same as previous note true, stacked 5 and 6

02:24:209 (1,2,3) - same spacing, no reason don't get it

02:33:959 (3,4,5) - this is fine since you start the next pattern with emphasis, the previous linear pattern was made like wrong ya

03:24:209 (1,2,3,4,1) - spacing and angle is not perfect seems sloppy considering your other patterns! whoops

Pretty good not much mostly suggestions

I gotta go out fast so I'll mod the other diff later if you still need!

Squilly wrote:

Extra

00:09:959 (1,1) - in this part youre following the drums mostly so circles would fit better instead of sliders here since theres not much of a change when you start using circles right after them yup

00:13:240 (4) - i feel like this overmap is unnecessary it's because the vocal is messed up here, not having it sounds weird too

01:12:209 (1,2,3) - since the bass sound youre following doesnt stop at the end of these sliders you could at least extend them to the red tick instead of just having the awkward space in between (also applies to the other sliders like these) ya

01:24:584 (2,3,4,5) - imo you should make the spacing here just as low as 01:23:459 (4,5,6,7) and 01:26:459 (3,4,5,6) because there isnt much of a reason for the bigger spacing it's more for nicer movement than it is for perfect emphasis

02:05:834 - you seem to try and map as many blue tick rhythms as you can with the hats and stuff so i think mapping these 1/4s would fit well not really trying to focus on those here

02:30:584 (2,3,4,5) - same as 01:24:584 (2,3,4,5)

03:17:834 (5,6,1) - you could go a bit higher on the spacing to emphasize vocals seems fine as it is to me

03:23:084 (2) - i would just change this to circles so you follow the drum on the sliderend right
thanks guys!
WORSTPOLACKEU
Lukas

00:34:334 (5,6) - Unstack for extra emphasis just a tip!

00:42:771 (2) - There must be a better place to put it than underneath that slider? Not problematic but could look better :P

01:04:709 (1) - Drum + Soft whistle

01:06:209 (1) - This should be drum + soft too I guess?

01:33:209 (1) - blanket

01:33:209 (1,2,3) - Feels sloppy altogether looks messy, fix up the spacing, you got intense note here 01:33:771 (2,3) - and you highlight stuff like that before

01:35:834 (3,1,3) - This is cluttery, I guess it plays ok but rather make something that is not as this cluttery

01:39:959 (3,4,5,6,1,2) - The taps are more intense than the sliders but the music suggests the opposite

02:12:209 (1,2) - blanket xd

03:06:584 (4) - This should be whistle right? Not a finish imo, to follow the vocals like before?


Normal

00:20:084 (6,7,8) - I would reconstruct this rhythm, to note and 2 kicksliders, the sliderend goes on the big sound which could be made better with a clickable note and the others however you see fit

00:31:709 (5,6) - This is a place I would use extended slider since it is the same word that is extended which logically fits into 1 slider

00:26:084 (5) - same as before, I don't feel this, even vocals start there

00:30:209 (1,2) - spacing watch out ww

01:20:459 (7,8,1,2,3) - spacing unequal, correct visuals

02:26:459 (7,8,1,2,3) - fix here too and 02:24:209 (1,2) -


Easy

Check AI mod, there's 4 points that have spacing errors

some form of hitsound .. ? 02:10:709 (5) - I don't know but I think something might maybe fit there, whistle?

Otherwise maybe the shapes are too difficult for players that actually play easy, they have trouble following reverse arrows too and there's a lot of those.
I'd simplify the diff a little!
Kaine

polack wrote:

Kaine's Insane

01:09:209 (4) - further away imo, atleast make it not touch the previous slider in this awkward manner, the whole patterning here is not touching each other this seems off ok

01:12:209 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - make some sliders lol this feels super underwhelming ok

02:18:209 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - same ok

02:33:771 (2,2,2) - This could be cleaned up better, nothing wrong with the jumps themselves, just could be patterned much better, looks messy now ok

03:12:959 (1,2,3,4) - spacing feels so little compared to how intense this part is vocally! those kicksliders will not be followed so the movement will be very reduced ok

03:13:334 (3,4,1) - and you have this linear jump which is awkward, same direction after 2 low spaced kicksliders just spaced so much, better to have the jumps change direction when a section changes this drastically ok

Squilly wrote:

Kaine's Insane

00:21:959 (3,4,5,1) - maybe increase spacing here to emphasize buildup ok

01:39:584 (2,3) - make these a slider to fit with how you map this part in the rest of the map no thank you

01:51:959 (3,1) - might wanna blanket these (you could move 01:52:146 (4) as well if you want to keep the triangle there) ok

02:33:209 (1,2,1,2) - i think 1/2 sliders fit better here with how you mapped it before ok

03:12:021 (2,3) - spacing this high doesnt fit imo decreased
mithew
ok i fixed all :)
Topic Starter
Syph

WORSTPOLACKEU wrote:

Normal

00:20:084 (6,7,8) - I would reconstruct this rhythm, to note and 2 kicksliders, the sliderend goes on the big sound which could be made better with a clickable note and the others however you see fit that'd be too dense imo

00:31:709 (5,6) - This is a place I would use extended slider since it is the same word that is extended which logically fits into 1 slider yup

00:26:084 (5) - same as before, I don't feel this, even vocals start there same

00:30:209 (1,2) - spacing watch out ww what's wrong here?

01:20:459 (7,8,1,2,3) - spacing unequal, correct visuals fixed I think

02:26:459 (7,8,1,2,3) - fix here too and 02:24:209 (1,2) - ye
fixed stuff for lukas too
Chromoxx
General:
02:49:709 - maybe consider making the combo colors something brighter for the kiai since the tone of the song changes drastically and it would be a pretty cool effect imo

Extra:
dope

Insane:
00:13:334 (4,5) - this overlap is kinda ugly imo
00:16:334 (4,5) - same about the overlap
01:06:209 (1,2) - this overlap kinda stands out too much imo since you aren't overlapping anything else in this part, it looks cleaner than the last ones at least though
01:06:771 (2,3) - blanket is slightly off
02:18:209 (1,2,3) - luckily these aren't squares lol

Hard:
ok

Normal:
00:00:209 (1) - you can miss the last tick since there is no sound
00:33:584 (2,3,4) - the approach circle on 4 being visible during the slider 2 is kinda confusing to read imo, maybe shift 180 degree turn it so that it lands on the bottom side?
01:12:209 (1) - make this a slider for consistency?
02:33:209 (1,2,3) - stacking makes for an awkward overlap here

Easy:
looks good
Topic Starter
Syph

Chromoxx wrote:

General:
02:49:709 - maybe consider making the combo colors something brighter for the kiai since the tone of the song changes drastically and it would be a pretty cool effect imo i would but i think the colors would become too bright? don't think it's allowed

Normal:
00:00:209 (1) - you can miss the last tick since there is no sound ye
00:33:584 (2,3,4) - the approach circle on 4 being visible during the slider 2 is kinda confusing to read imo, maybe shift 180 degree turn it so that it lands on the bottom side? fixed i think?
01:12:209 (1) - make this a slider for consistency? i wanted to give a different kind of emphasis here cuz it's the start of the kiai if that makes sense?
02:33:209 (1,2,3) - stacking makes for an awkward overlap here fixed

Easy:
looks good
Kaine

Chromoxx wrote:

Insane:
00:13:334 (4,5) - this overlap is kinda ugly imo Fixed
00:16:334 (4,5) - same about the overlap Fixed
01:06:209 (1,2) - this overlap kinda stands out too much imo since you aren't overlapping anything else in this part, it looks cleaner than the last ones at least though Fixed
01:06:771 (2,3) - blanket is slightly off Fixed
02:18:209 (1,2,3) - luckily these aren't squares lol true
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Chromoxx
with bright i meant something more colorful i guess, like yellow + red or something
Topic Starter
Syph

Chromoxx wrote:

with bright i meant something more colorful i guess, like yellow + red or something
i'd prefer sticking to the colors of the backgrounds, it's what i do in all of my maps, don't really like picking colors that don't match the bg
Chromoxx
okay, bubbled! :D
Kaine
in the middle of the night :3 in my dreams ~~~~ (my dreams owo) u shud see the things we do >/////< baby <3
Topic Starter
Syph
shut up!!!
Aurele
Hello, I have some concerns on mapset!

mithew's Easy
  1. 00:38:459 (4) - That is a slider-shape I would not recommend in an easy, because we don't really see the shape of it, so it kinda acts like an holding circle. It will be better to "open it" while keeping your main idea. Do the same thing for 00:44:459 (4) - and all the similar ones on the second half of the map.
  2. 00:48:209 - 01:54:209 - 02:36:209 - You could maybe force these breaks to be starting on these timestamps? That would be neat.
  3. 03:04:709 (4) - Considering the curve of the last slider, you should move this slider to make it follow the flow of it instead of making a perfect straight line from the end of the previous slider to this one. For this instance, just move this slider a little bit more to the right.
  4. 03:09:959 - Coming here, I believe you can use a better rhythm, because I feel you are skipping something. Maybe you could do something similar to what's shown below, which is something to 02:57:209 (2,3,4) - :
  5. 03:24:584 (1) - Delete the reverse arrow of this slider to make the difficulty finish on 03:24:959 - like every diffs (except Lucas, which I am also asking the same.. lol)
Normal
This difficulty is undermapped considering the difficulty before this one. Please map something between 01:00:209 - to 01:09:209 - and between 02:06:209 - to 02:15:209 -

Lukas' Hard
You can actually delete these green timing points since they are unnecessary: 01:11:084 - , 01:11:834 - , 02:17:084 - , 02:17:834 -
  1. 00:00:209 (1,1,1,1,2,1,1) - You should maybe use the new combos in a more logical way. You could be following the sounds and group the objects separated by the moments which has no sounds. For an example, delete the new combo to 00:01:709 (1) - , 00:04:709 (1) - and 00:07:709 (1) - and since 00:05:459 (2) - has a different sounds from the other two sliders, you could be adding a new combo to this one.
  2. 00:12:771 (2) - Missing a clap for consistency.
  3. 01:40:709 (1) - To play with the aesthetic a bit, maybe you can move this slider to make a straight line with 01:39:959 (3,4,5,6) - ?
  4. 02:35:459 (5,6,7,1) - Same as mentioned above.
  5. 02:57:209 (1) - There's some hitsounds on this slider that should be deleted to follow the other similar sliders.
  6. 03:12:584 - I think there should be a finish drum hitsounds instead of this whistle.
  7. 03:17:459 (3) - The whistle sounds a bit too loud because of the previous one. There should actually be a normal sampletset without any other hitsounds attached to it. It will follow 03:15:959 (3) - .
  8. 03:24:959 - Change this slider for a circle to finish it at a consistent time on the whole mapset.
Kaine's Insane
  1. 00:39:771 - 00:42:771 - Missing a drum-clap here. (If it is not missing, I'd recommend adding one has there are dominant sounds on these timestamps)
  2. 01:12:209 - & 02:18:209 - I feel like these hitsounds are quite messed up during these parts. Either they are missing or either they are not consistent with 00:00:209 (1) - . You can have a look to the other difficulties to guide ya'.
  3. 01:21:021 (4,5,6) - Make these objects aligned
  4. 02:48:584 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - It would be very nice if these objects were placed like this, which would give more emphasis to the next slider object.
Extra
  1. 02:17:084 (1) - to 02:36:209 (1) - being a copy-paste of 01:11:084 (1) - 01:30:115 (12) - really was not a great idea. The first segment is following the vocal with spacing emphasis and since you have copied this part, you would normally try to focus on the vocals as well for the second part, which is totally not the case. I would like you to rework this part again to follow either the vocals or the instruments on the second part.
  2. 00:12:771 (2) - Missing a clap
  3. 02:55:709 (1) - Shouldn't this slider's head have a clap with Additions set to 'Auto'? It will mostly follow the melody of the next hitsounds.
  4. 02:59:271 (2) - For consistency, add a drum clap here
  5. 03:17:459 (3) - Delete the whistle on the head of this slider
Topic Starter
Syph

Gabe wrote:

Hello, I have some concerns on mapset!

Normal
This difficulty is undermapped considering the difficulty before this one. Please map something between 01:00:209 - to 01:09:209 - and between 02:06:209 - to 02:15:209 - I don't really see the problem here, mithew's diff is a guest difficulty so obviously it's gonna be different from mine. I prefer having these parts empty.

Lukas' Hard
You can actually delete these green timing points since they are unnecessary: 01:11:084 - , 01:11:834 - , 02:17:084 - , 02:17:834 - ok
  1. 00:00:209 (1,1,1,1,2,1,1) - You should maybe use the new combos in a more logical way. You could be following the sounds and group the objects separated by the moments which has no sounds. For an example, delete the new combo to 00:01:709 (1) - , 00:04:709 (1) - and 00:07:709 (1) - and since 00:05:459 (2) - has a different sounds from the other two sliders, you could be adding a new combo to this one. okay
  2. 00:12:771 (2) - Missing a clap for consistency. yea
  3. 01:40:709 (1) - To play with the aesthetic a bit, maybe you can move this slider to make a straight line with 01:39:959 (3,4,5,6) - ? don't think it's neccesary
  4. 02:35:459 (5,6,7,1) - Same as mentioned above. fixed here as it's more obvious
  5. 02:57:209 (1) - There's some hitsounds on this slider that should be deleted to follow the other similar sliders.how so?
  6. 03:12:584 - I think there should be a finish drum hitsounds instead of this whistle.I hitsounded this to the synth(?) not the drum, you can hear it over it
  7. 03:17:459 (3) - The whistle sounds a bit too loud because of the previous one. There should actually be a normal sampletset without any other hitsounds attached to it. It will follow 03:15:959 (3) - . yeah
  8. 03:24:959 - Change this slider for a circle to finish it at a consistent time on the whole mapset. ok
Kaine's Insane
  1. 00:39:771 - 00:42:771 - Missing a drum-clap here. (If it is not missing, I'd recommend adding one has there are dominant sounds on these timestamps) I don't think they're neccesary as they're on sliderends and it'd sound weird
  2. 01:12:209 - & 02:18:209 - I feel like these hitsounds are quite messed up during these parts. Either they are missing or either they are not consistent with 00:00:209 (1) - . You can have a look to the other difficulties to guide ya'. should be fixed
  3. 01:21:021 (4,5,6) - Make these objects aligned don't think that's what he was going for since looking 2 seconds further shows this 01:22:334 (2,3,4) -
  4. 02:48:584 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - It would be very nice if these objects were placed like this, which would give more emphasis to the next slider object. okay
Extra
  1. 02:17:084 (1) - to 02:36:209 (1) - being a copy-paste of 01:11:084 (1) - 01:30:115 (12) - really was not a great idea. The first segment is following the vocal with spacing emphasis and since you have copied this part, you would normally try to focus on the vocals as well for the second part, which is totally not the case. I would like you to rework this part again to follow either the vocals or the instruments on the second part. I'm sorry but what's wrong with this? the way I map is by following both vocals and instruments at the same time, spacing emphasis is a combination of both of them too hence why I think I can copy paste this, to me it's completely fine as I think it perfectly fits the 2nd part too even though the vocals are different as everything follows the instruments nicely.
  2. 00:12:771 (2) - Missing a clap indeed
  3. 02:55:709 (1) - Shouldn't this slider's head have a clap with Additions set to 'Auto'? It will mostly follow the melody of the next hitsounds. I wanted the soft whistle because the vocal is strong
  4. 02:59:271 (2) - For consistency, add a drum clap here yeah
  5. 03:17:459 (3) - Delete the whistle on the head of this slider why? lol there's a kick on it and I'm following it with the drum whistle as it's similar
applied for kaine as he's on a trip with work or something

I don't see the reason for a pop, but whatever I guess, thanks for the mod
Aurele

Syph wrote:

Gabe wrote:

Hello, I have some concerns on mapset!

Normal
This difficulty is undermapped considering the difficulty before this one. Please map something between 01:00:209 - to 01:09:209 - and between 02:06:209 - to 02:15:209 - I don't really see the problem here, mithew's diff is a guest difficulty so obviously it's gonna be different from mine. I prefer having these parts empty.
While I made a comparison with the Easy difficulty only, you should actually look to the overall mapset. Normal is the only difficulty that has three full breaks, and I believe it makes it undermapped. My point still stands, and it would be better to make these minimally consistent to have these sections mapped.

Syph wrote:

Gabe wrote:

Lukas' Hard
  1. 02:57:209 (1) - There's some hitsounds on this slider that should be deleted to follow the other similar sliders.how so? hm, delete the drum sampleset to 02:57:396 -, as it doesn't have any particular sound here

Syph wrote:

Gabe wrote:

Extra
02:17:084 (1) - to 02:36:209 (1) - being a copy-paste of 01:11:084 (1) - 01:30:115 (12) - really was not a great idea. The first segment is following the vocal with spacing emphasis and since you have copied this part, you would normally try to focus on the vocals as well for the second part, which is totally not the case. I would like you to rework this part again to follow either the vocals or the instruments on the second part. I'm sorry but what's wrong with this? the way I map is by following both vocals and instruments at the same time, spacing emphasis is a combination of both of them too hence why I think I can copy paste this, to me it's completely fine as I think it perfectly fits the 2nd part too even though the vocals are different as everything follows the instruments nicely.
The issue with this copy-pasted section is that, the first section, you are emphasizing vocals with the spacing of the objects and with the hitsounds. Coming to the second part, which is pasted, the intonations are not the same, considering that you are following both the vocals and the instruments on the second part while you were only following the vocals on the first part, and since the player got used to the first part for the vocals, it is confusing to see the same part again, but not emphasizing the stronger parts of the second section.

Syph wrote:

I don't see the reason for a pop, but whatever I guess, thanks for the mod
I decided to bubble pop for the breaks in Normal and the copy-pasted section in the Extra difficulty. Count this as a veto.
celerih

Syph wrote:

the way I map is by following both vocals and instruments at the same time, spacing emphasis is a combination of both of them too hence why I think I can copy paste this, to me it's completely fine as I think it perfectly fits the 2nd part too even though the vocals are different as everything follows the instruments nicely.
This doesn't make sense. If you follow both vocals and instruments, then why don't you change the map when the vocals do? If you always followed instruments only then yeah I'd see why you'd want no variation but here there's clear variation in one of the two, and the map should follow that.

If you want to follow both vocals and instruments at the same time fine, but don't just randomly stop following one of them so you can copy paste a section

I agree with Gabe here that the variation between the sections should warrant some kind of variation in the map.
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Syph

celerih wrote:

Syph wrote:

the way I map is by following both vocals and instruments at the same time, spacing emphasis is a combination of both of them too hence why I think I can copy paste this, to me it's completely fine as I think it perfectly fits the 2nd part too even though the vocals are different as everything follows the instruments nicely.
This doesn't make sense. If you follow both vocals and instruments, then why don't you change the map when the vocals do? If you always followed instruments only then yeah I'd see why you'd want no variation but here there's clear variation in one of the two, and the map should follow that.

If you want to follow both vocals and instruments at the same time fine, but don't just randomly stop following one of them so you can copy paste a section
I keep both in mind when doing spacing, I honestly don't see the problem with it lol it's not like "just so you can copy paste a section" as frankly I really don't care about saving time or anything, I did it because I think it fits well. just because I say I follow both doesn't mean I do it everywhere either, e.g in the kiai I have bigger spacing 02:50:271 (2,3) - here for the kick in instrumentals and big spacing here 03:06:209 (1,2,3,4,5) - because of the vocals being stronger. I follow what I think has more impact in the song at that point

basically 99% of the spacing in the part mentioned is based on the instruments which is why I think it fits nicely in the 2nd section too as the instrumentals are the same rhythm wise, I basically disregarded the vocal there

-- also sorry if it comes off as rude but this is my thoughts on it and I think there's no need for more people to come in to try and prove someone else's point when I could just talk to 1 person instead of having to explain the same thing to multiple people. thanks for your input though
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