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Riko (CV: Tomita Miyu), Reg (CV: Mariya Ise) - Deep in Abyss

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VINXIS
mir
SPOILER
09:44 VINXIS: hrey can u irc my diff
09:44 Mir: uh sure
09:44 *VINXIS is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1449999 Riko (CV: Tomita Miyu), Reg (CV: Mariya Ise) - Deep in Abyss [VINXIS's Insane]]
09:46 Mir: 00:10:817 (9,10) - kinda wish this ended on blue
09:46 Mir: like the piano does
09:47 VINXIS: Tru
09:47 Mir: 00:11:040 - probably double on head or something
09:47 Mir: or leave empty
09:47 Mir: up to you
09:47 VINXIS: double sounds nicr
09:47 Mir: 00:14:707 (1) - erhheheh
09:47 Mir: can you make that a nicer slider xD
09:48 VINXIS: ok i jsut made it into a curve
09:48 Mir: 00:18:929 - this piano sounds pretty strong but ends on a tail which kinda threw me off a bit
09:49 Mir: could remove reverse and triple the next 1/4 slider
09:49 VINXIS: ojh thats a good idea actualy
09:51 Mir: 00:19:818 (1) - might wanna make a more parallel wave thing?
09:51 Mir: pretty minor https://i.imgur.com/1RT6DMz.png
09:52 VINXIS: sound has an accentuation at its start
09:52 VINXIS: Tho
09:52 Mir: i see, fair enough
09:52 VINXIS: Osu
09:52 Mir: 00:20:484 (2,3) - since 3 has a pretty nice finish on it how about stacking 2 under 1's end?
09:52 VINXIS: O ok
09:52 Mir: 00:26:929 (1,2,1) - similar to what you did with this
09:53 VINXIS: ya
09:54 Mir: 01:02:707 (1,2) - jump felt a little bit excessive to me considering the spacing of most other things
09:54 Mir: doesn't rly help that it's in a corner
09:55 Mir: if you stack 1 somewhere under 01:01:929 (3) - it might be better
09:55 VINXIS: i just made 2 circles
09:55 Mir: o
09:55 VINXIS: and put 1 higher
09:55 VINXIS: above the 1/4 sliders
09:56 Mir: ah ok
09:56 Mir: well that seems to be it
09:56 Mir: nothing else really worth mentioning
09:56 VINXIS: hell Yrea
09:56 Mir: od 8 tho
09:56 Mir: uh try 7
09:56 Mir: or tell the guy above you to 8.x
09:56 VINXIS: oh iw as guna change that

dsco
SPOILER
10:00 VINXIS: irc mod
10:03 dsco: A
10:04 dsco: on what
10:04 VINXIS: irc my anime map
10:04 dsco: np
10:04 VINXIS: https://puu.sh/y5dYo/4eb51dadfb.osz
10:04 VINXIS: i cahgned stuff and its not uploaded yetr
10:04 dsco: 00:00:000 (1) - hate it
10:04 VINXIS: FDuckj
10:04 dsco: 00:00:485 (1) - thats a dangerous amount of nodes there Bro
10:05 VINXIS: its all bezier
10:05 VINXIS: aside for kiai
10:06 dsco: 00:10:929 (10) - feel lik stream should end on 9 since u have pretty heavy focus on melody / piano
10:06 dsco: maybe make 9 a 1/4 repeat slider
10:06 VINXIS: diud u update
10:06 VINXIS: the mapre
10:06 dsco: Haha,
10:06 VINXIS: X D
10:07 dsco: Owned
10:07 VINXIS: well its jus a double on the sldierhead now
10:07 dsco: i dont hear anything on 10 tHO,
10:07 VINXIS: The Ting
10:07 dsco: idk, better than other i tihnk,
10:07 VINXIS: ghoes skrra
10:07 VINXIS: i hgavre no idea how to make it not play ass
10:08 dsco: Quyestonabale but Defenedable i Gues
10:08 dsco: i think 1/4 repeat slider works welllest but ur choice
10:08 VINXIS: aside for tht
10:08 VINXIS: idk cuz
10:08 VINXIS: most peop[le would just read that as a 1/4 space between the next slider and 9
10:08 dsco: wot
10:08 dsco: im talking 1/4 repeat slider starting where 9 is now
10:09 dsco: single repeat
10:09 VINXIS: wait
10:09 VINXIS: so u diDNt mean this https://puu.sh/y5e8i/a2579f1e4f.jpg
10:09 dsco: like that but rotate 9 180 and then make it repeat once
10:09 dsco: tht was my idea
10:10 VINXIS: ok so i compolektely misread wot u meant
10:10 dsco: emphasizes all ticks wel
10:10 VINXIS: Tru
10:10 dsco: 00:15:596 (1) - feel like this looks better rotated -15 around head
10:11 dsco: but i think u intentional ur aes so
10:11 VINXIS: cw or ccw
10:11 VINXIS: oh
10:11 VINXIS: ccs
10:11 VINXIS: ccw
10:11 dsco: Ye
10:11 dsco: so it matches next slider angl
10:11 VINXIS: Ya
10:12 dsco: 00:21:373 (4,5,1) - maybe custom stack 5 under 4
10:12 dsco: if thats what u ment 2 do cary on
10:12 VINXIS: Momma Luigi
10:12 VINXIS: https://puu.sh/y5egL/efa2a367a3.jpg
10:13 dsco: Daberoni XD
10:13 VINXIS: LOL!XD
10:13 dsco: 00:24:484 (1) - this stands out 2 me in this section as not following the vocals as well as other things but idk best fix
10:13 dsco: cuz the tick it repeats around got nothiing
10:13 dsco: i gues the piano but idk
10:13 VINXIS: ill just map to vocals Lol
10:14 dsco: 00:27:596 (2,2) - custom stack these so they flip when they Flip
10:14 dsco: god dude im a Trogolodyte
10:14 dsco: 90% of my mods are about stacks now
10:14 dsco: Yet , i made tonight and dark steering !
10:15 VINXIS: waitr
10:16 dsco: 00:35:484 - think drum thig start here (send so i REmemb to Send)
10:16 VINXIS: oh Tru
10:16 VINXIS: LOL
10:17 dsco: LOL @ me being a trogolodyTE?
10:17 VINXIS: Ya get rektw noob
10:17 VINXIS: was laughin at the brackets
10:17 VINXIS: WQaitr
10:17 VINXIS: hwo do i customn stack these
10:18 VINXIS: nvm
10:18 dsco: 00:27:596 (2) - move this one down and right 4
10:18 dsco: and other one down and in 4
10:18 VINXIS: ShuTUp
10:18 VINXIS: thts exactly wot i Did
10:18 dsco: or more because that isn't the Cutest with the slider boreder,er,er,ererereREdEreF Erer[ BorderERE}r]ererEr erere.)
10:19 dsco: 00:36:040 (1) - section starting here i think should be either more or less strongly mapped to vocals
10:19 dsco: the 3/4 sliders imply that is the focus
10:19 dsco: but 00:37:262 - but theres a vocal syllable here thats complete avoid
10:20 dsco: maybe do less strongly to transitioon to 00:39:596 (1,2,3,4,1) - section
10:21 dsco: wait im reatrd
10:21 dsco: wait nvm
10:21 VINXIS: oh
10:21 dsco: https://i.imgur.com/gx6uzb0.png mite b best solution
10:21 VINXIS: i already changed everythrting
10:21 dsco: SWAG
10:24 dsco: 00:48:818 - would be pretty egg to add circle here near next slider head
10:24 VINXIS: i added it on
10:24 VINXIS: 00:49:707 - too
10:24 dsco: 00:53:818 (1,2) - 00:46:707 (1,2,3) - was this consciously mapped differnertly
10:25 VINXIS: yea
10:25 dsco: ok wanted 2 see
10:25 VINXIS: c uz of the strings
10:25 VINXIS: i map 1/2 shit again later cuz of strings
10:25 dsco: i actually think 00:49:707 - better to not here because contrast the vocal highlight
10:25 VINXIS: ok wait lemme change the whole pattern
10:27 dsco: 01:05:151 (4) - https://i.imgur.com/RzCeLDD.png Power rhythm
10:27 dsco: 01:21:596 (2,3,4) - stacked triple sticks out in this section imo
10:28 dsco: twas all me ol eyes caught
Topic Starter
Kaifin
thank u mir and dsco feel free to make a post so i can kudos you

info about the top diff for modders and players
  1. Riko's vocal sliders are curved and Reg's are red ticks because he is a robot and she is not a robot
  2. a lot of the major patterns are based on moving from the top to the bottom of the screen ala climbing into the abyss 00:06:484 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - 01:26:929 (1,2,1,2) - 00:52:040 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2)
  3. the beginning vocals are lightly segmented into the top and bottom of the screen, with Riko's starting at the top 00:14:707 - because she starts at the top of the abyss and Reg's starting from the bottom 00:21:818 - because he starts from the bottom of the abyss
  4. the map ends with a sharp descent to the bottom of the screen because of the previously stated themes 01:26:929 (1,2,1,2) -
  5. all of these things are quite loose in their application but i hope they are nevertheless noticed and appreciated

looking for bn now!
Mir
remap kds pls

this is a totally serious post btw logs are above
Naichatta
mithew

mithew wrote:

kusano's Insane
  1. 00:00:485 (1,4) - weird structure and awkward flow, ctrl+j gives it much cleaner look (should also fix this overlap 00:01:373 (4,1) - ) I think there is no problem.
  2. 00:22:707 (3,4) - can't find the reason for the spacing increase here, if its to follow the piano that wouldn't make much sense since the piano starts on the blue tick
  3. 00:47:596 (5,6,7,8,1) - this plays pretty awkwardly where it doesn't really seem called for.. the spacing increase between each note is fine but the way you have this flow 00:47:596 (5) - here then break it on (8), only to have the spacing decrease on the nc is pretty weird. fixed
  4. 00:56:707 (5,6,7) - these should be way less dramatic if you want to give attention to the vocals on 00:57:818 (4,5,6,7) - I changed the pattern
  5. 01:09:373 (8,1) - compare this to 01:10:262 (4,5) - and you can see a drastic change in spacing despite the vocals staying relatively the same no change
  6. 01:21:151 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - idk this overmap doesn't really do the piano justice, this rhythm fits it much better I don't want to change it
  7. 01:25:818 (2,3,4) - feels out of place, if you wanna use a triple then starting it on the red tick instead feels more natural to the song no change
  8. 01:27:151 (8) - make this two kick sliders instead, fits the sudden ending much better fixed

fieryrage

fieryrage wrote:

Insanee
  • 00:18:929 (2,3,4) - minor bickering but this doesn't look straight fixed
    00:26:929 (1,2) - space this out a bit more? kinda looks weird as it is rn no change
    00:42:707 (6,7,8) - kinda don't give emphasis to this at all with this spacing fixed
    01:14:262 (5,6,7,8) - this is like the only awkwardly flowing stream in the map, would probably be better to straighten it out fixed
    01:27:151 (8) - make this 2 sliders instead of a repeat? would make more sense here tbh fixed

Arf

Arf wrote:

kusano's Insane
Enjoyable to play

00:22:262 (2,3) - I found it quite strange that the vocal 1/4 here is not mapped despite being mapped in all previous occurrences of it. Consider mapping it fixed
00:22:929 (4,5) - While I appreciate the hitsounding that makes this 1/2 rhythm mapping possible, consider following the background piano here, as it makes a somewhat more interesting rhythm that can be safely emphasized no change
00:25:373 (1,2,3) - Hmm, I am unsure about ignoring the piano stream here, as it is an Insane, and particularly when the Hard difficulty applied some 1/4 rhythms to this section as well. In context, it is unusual for a higher difficulty to map the same section with a less dense rhythm (even if it is a GD) ok, i adapt it to the piano
00:48:040 (7,8,1) - Unsure why the jump from 7 to 8 is so much greater than the distance from 8 to 1, particularly when 1 is on the downbeat and has a finish hitsound on top of being a stronger beat to begin with. Consider adjusting the spacing here no change, Because I thought it was a good pattern
00:58:262 (6,7,8,9) - Consider making the rhythm more like 00:57:373 (1,2,3,4) - , with the note between 6 and 7 being mapped, and the current 8 being deleted. I believe it would add more emphasis to the lyrics at 00:58:706 (9,10) - while also keeping the rhythm consistent between the two instances of "made". An illustration: https://puu.sh/y3ihQ/817aca8278.png fixed
01:07:151 (3) - Consider Ctrl+G on this slider, some extra distance+circular flow might help emphasize the rhythm here better fixed
01:14:262 (5,6,7,8) - Consider a more conventional curve or shape on this stream. If you were trying to make it look like a set of two doubles, personally I believe the spacing is too small for that visual view to be possible, and it ends up looking somewhat unsightly. Perhaps something closer to 01:18:262 (6,7,8,9) - would be prettier fixed

Mirash

Mirash wrote:

kusano's Insane
check for missing hitsounds from copying, like 00:02:262 (1) - clap 00:05:373 (6) - clap etc 00:05:373 (6) - added
00:14:262 (6) - difference between this one and previous circles after 3/4 sliders are too small, it feels not that good, could really increase spacing here, like place on the tail of 00:15:484 (3) - it'd fit your style i guess no change
00:26:929 (1) - head prob missing finish ^
00:54:929 (4) - mhh, same thing as at the start, it needs more highlighting imo, 00:54:929 (4,5,6) - try crl g this ^

Pulse

Pulse wrote:

[kusano's Insane]
  1. 00:27:818 (3) - I think that this finish is so loud in comparison to the sound on the music. Maybe you could use a ~65% timing point here. Also, you could use a whistle too since the sound on 00:26:929 (1) - is present here too I changed it to 70%
  2. 00:36:707 (3,4,5) - Honestly this stack with a 1/4 gap kinda breaks your movement no need. It looks better with (5) stacked instead (3). Do you think that you could do something about it? hmm... I think this is good

Thanks for mod :)
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dsco
GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
GG:GG:GGG (G) - GGGGGGG, GG GGG GGGGG.
GG:GG:GGG (G,G,G) - GGGG+G
GG:GG:GGG (G,G) - GGGGGGG GGGGGGG
Delis

fix this

[expert]
the intro has much less newcombos in comparison, 00:01:151 (3,4,5) - and 00:04:707 (3,4,5) - could use something similar with 00:40:262 (1,2,1,2,3) - to make the spaced streams standing out.
00:01:151 (3,4) - is it just me or swapping the whistle could work better because it would be on the piano which has much higher pitch than 00:01:151 -
00:13:670 (2) - overmapping in 1/6 is way too edgy, would just stick to 1/4 snapping here as 00:13:818 (1) - the slider tail is also off-snapped anyway.
00:22:596 (4) - hitsounding the slider head helps playing it consistently a bit.
00:25:818 (5) - soft whistle on the head?
00:28:373 (4) - 1/12
00:29:818 - 00:30:262 - clap perhaps
00:35:596 (1,2) - I don't really know the logic people use for this kind of mapping but doesn't faster sv play usually nicer when it comes to 1/4 sliders? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9386591 actually making the sv 2 times faster on 00:35:818 - feels pretty nice to represent the different music elements they have on, the piano on 00:35:596 - and vocals on 00:35:818 - and it also introduces to the next part actually well, would give a try at least.
00:46:040 (1,2,3) - this just can be the reversed pattern of 00:45:151 (1,2,3) - the music indeed is different a lot but this would be an enjoyable pattern definitely!
00:55:596 (1) - any reason behind this being normal sv instead of x0.5 like the rest u did for the same part of the song such as 00:48:484 (1) - ? just going consistent through the kiai is nice, atm this breaks the concept you have imo :/
01:00:040 (1,2) - undermapping here feels oh ok mapping every sound makes more sense to ur mapping here tho
01:12:707 (1) - kinda over jumped I think, https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9386874 closer spacing makes more sense tbh

[kusano's insane]
00:02:707 - 以前のmodで指摘されていたと思うんですが、まだclapついてないです。
00:28:373 (4) - 1/12
00:29:818 - 00:30:262 (6) - 片方、或いは両方にclap付けても合うと思います。また正直な所、あえてアレンジを加えて曲のドラムを正確にすべて取らずに音付けしているのか、つけ忘れなのかわからなかったのでもし後者なのであれば少し見直してみてもいいかもしれません。
00:48:484 (1,2,3) - 00:46:707 (1,2) - と同じように3/4 + circleの方が分かり易いリズムでよりプレイしやすいと思います。00:55:596 (1,2,3,4) - とは若干裏の音が異なっているので比較対象としてはあまり良くないんですが、00:48:484 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - にて3連打が2個連続で来る音取りが、この譜面でここだけなので少し浮いているというのと、やはり00:46:707 (1,2,3,4,5) - の一連のリズムの方が個人的には叩きやすいと思うので。
01:09:151 (7) - clapあってもいいかも?

[vinx]
lmao beziers next time u better do it without the red tick at its end 00:05:818 (1) - cuz it looks slightly different
00:13:596 (2) - 1/4 feels better due to the reverse point doesn't make any sense right now
00:37:818 (1) - wot slider is this
01:07:596 (4) - welcome back bezier i missed u
01:18:707 (1) - finish instead?

the only thing that triggers me is the spaced 1/4s after slider such as 00:07:596 (1,2,3,4,1) - they don't really match to beziers if u wanted to do something fake collab between the kiai and the rest you should only stick to do this in the kiai and map the in a normal way, it will be a lot more obvious in game play that you've used a different concept in the kiai.

[hard]
00:24:929 - could match a clap with the one on 00:22:929 -
00:28:929 - prob because you copied kusano's hitsounds fundamentally the claps in this part don't really go well through the rhythm here overall. for example 00:28:929 (1,2) - there's no clap on the second reverse (00:30:151 - ) but there's not really a noticeable change musically which feels weird.
00:41:373 (5) - you used to have nc every measure unless the combo will be too short

best bg tbh

[easy]
00:18:484 (1) - shouldn't this snapped to 00:20:707 - instead of 00:20:484 - this sounds so off
00:25:373 (6) - 1/1 slider feels more accurate rhythm for the vocal etc, 00:25:596 - doesn't look worthy to be mapped out in this diff lol
00:26:040 (1) - same as the spinner i pointed out, you just need only 2 beats after a spinner so is still fine for the rule
00:28:929 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - this might be too long chain with a lot of 1/2s, the longer sliders also make playing harder than just circles for newbies especially. 00:33:373 (2) - would remove this to balance it.
00:38:262 (6) - eh wouldn't snap to the vocal correctly but 1/1 seems more reasonable rhythm for this since the usage of 3/4 sliders here is usually for the piano played that way so doing this for the vocals is kinda out of place for the diff.
00:41:373 (1,3) - swap the nc?
00:57:151 (7) - can remove this to avoid too long 1/2 chain again.
01:11:373 (8) - ^
01:14:040 (7) - 3/2 is enough length for the vocal to be on the tail like 01:10:484 (7) -
01:17:596 (7) - same

if u will like to keep the 1/2 chains as is you should map an easy as well because it's anime anyway
VINXIS
ok next time is now cuz i changed all of them to not red node sliderend

hmm i didnt mean to make it look liek a fake collab i just wanted it to have a supposedly subtle curve slider change for the kiai to emphasize the chorus a bit : L dont realluytr wanna change those 1/4 patterns so it can stay consistent

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Naichatta

Delis wrote:

[kusano's insane]
00:02:707 - 以前のmodで指摘されていたと思うんですが、まだclapついてないです。fixed
00:28:373 (4) - 1/12 fixed
00:29:818 - 00:30:262 (6) - 片方、或いは両方にclap付けても合うと思います。また正直な所、あえてアレンジを加えて曲のドラムを正確にすべて取らずに音付けしているのか、つけ忘れなのかわからなかったのでもし後者なのであれば少し見直してみてもいいかもしれません。 つけ忘れです...!
00:48:484 (1,2,3) - 00:46:707 (1,2) - と同じように3/4 + circleの方が分かり易いリズムでよりプレイしやすいと思います。00:55:596 (1,2,3,4) - とは若干裏の音が異なっているので比較対象としてはあまり良くないんですが、00:48:484 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - にて3連打が2個連続で来る音取りが、この譜面でここだけなので少し浮いているというのと、やはり00:46:707 (1,2,3,4,5) - の一連のリズムの方が個人的には叩きやすいと思うので。fixed
01:09:151 (7) - clapあってもいいかも? 追加しました
all fixed, thanks for modding :)
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Topic Starter
Kaifin

Delis wrote:


fix this fixed this

[expert]
the intro has much less newcombos in comparison, 00:01:151 (3,4,5) - and 00:04:707 (3,4,5) - could use something similar with 00:40:262 (1,2,1,2,3) - to make the spaced streams standing out.NC'd them
00:01:151 (3,4) - is it just me or swapping the whistle could work better because it would be on the piano which has much higher pitch than 00:01:151 - swapped the whistle to the slider head
00:13:670 (2) - overmapping in 1/6 is way too edgy, would just stick to 1/4 snapping here as 00:13:818 (1) - the slider tail is also off-snapped anyway. made it 1/4, i think the snapping of the slider end should be fine now because its consistently 1/4
00:22:596 (4) - hitsounding the slider head helps playing it consistently a bit.added a whistle
00:25:818 (5) - soft whistle on the head? added a whistle
00:28:373 (4) - 1/12 1/12'd
00:29:818 - 00:30:262 - clap perhaps clapped the first one, put a whistle on the second because 2 claps sounded a little spammy
00:35:596 (1,2) - I don't really know the logic people use for this kind of mapping but doesn't faster sv play usually nicer when it comes to 1/4 sliders? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9386591 actually making the sv 2 times faster on 00:35:818 - feels pretty nice to represent the different music elements they have on, the piano on 00:35:596 - and vocals on 00:35:818 - and it also introduces to the next part actually well, would give a try at least. did it,
i like that suggestion

00:46:040 (1,2,3) - this just can be the reversed pattern of 00:45:151 (1,2,3) - the music indeed is different a lot but this would be an enjoyable pattern definitely! definitely a cooler effect and better theme too, did it
00:55:596 (1) - any reason behind this being normal sv instead of x0.5 like the rest u did for the same part of the song such as 00:48:484 (1) - ? just going consistent through the kiai is nice, atm this breaks the concept you have imo :/ here i originally wanted to emphasize the vocals, but i changed for consistency with the other time
01:00:040 (1,2) - undermapping here feels oh ok mapping every sound makes more sense to ur mapping here tho here i wanted to transition into the next section and think that the two notes are really strong and should be heavily emphasized by the change in rhythm
01:12:707 (1) - kinda over jumped I think, https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9386874 closer spacing makes more sense tbh applied your suggestion

[hard]
00:24:929 - could match a clap with the one on 00:22:929 - clappped
00:28:929 - prob because you copied kusano's hitsounds fundamentally the claps in this part don't really go well through the rhythm here overall. for example 00:28:929 (1,2) - there's no clap on the second reverse (00:30:151 - ) but there's not really a noticeable change musically which feels weird. added claps to both repeats to fix hopefully
00:41:373 (5) - you used to have nc every measure unless the combo will be too short NC'd

best bg tbh agreed but i like blood boy best

[easy]
00:18:484 (1) - shouldn't this snapped to 00:20:707 - instead of 00:20:484 - this sounds so off snapped and changed hitsound to reflect new snap
00:25:373 (6) - 1/1 slider feels more accurate rhythm for the vocal etc, 00:25:596 - doesn't look worthy to be mapped out in this diff lol changed to 1/1
00:26:040 (1) - same as the spinner i pointed out, you just need only 2 beats after a spinner so is still fine for the rule fixed and different hitsound
00:28:929 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - this might be too long chain with a lot of 1/2s, the longer sliders also make playing harder than just circles for newbies especially. 00:33:373 (2) - would remove this to balance it. removed
00:38:262 (6) - eh wouldn't snap to the vocal correctly but 1/1 seems more reasonable rhythm for this since the usage of 3/4 sliders here is usually for the piano played that way so doing this for the vocals is kinda out of place for the diff. i understand your point, but i think the 1/1 sounds really weird, i'd rather keep it like this unless you really really think i should change to 1/1
00:41:373 (1,3) - swap the nc? swapped
00:57:151 (7) - can remove this to avoid too long 1/2 chain again. removed
01:11:373 (8) - ^ removed
01:14:040 (7) - 3/2 is enough length for the vocal to be on the tail like 01:10:484 (7) - fixed and changed shape to reflect
01:17:596 (7) - same fixed and changed shape to reflect

if u will like to keep the 1/2 chains as is you should map an easy as well because it's anime anyway i removed all the 1/2 chains you mentioned, if i still need easy i can map one just let me know
thank you for the mod basically all applied :)
Delis
bleeding from every orifice
-Mo-
First layer
=== Note density does still seem pretty high for the lowest diff in the set. Stuff like 00:36:040 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 00:53:373 (6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - are pretty significant chains of 1/2 seperated objects, and there's quite a few of them in the diff. I do think an Easy is required since nerfing the diff into the ground isn't very nice.
- 00:18:484 (1) - 00:26:040 (1) - I think it might be better to map more accurately to the music rather than cover these sections with spinners (specifically background sounds). The first one misses a vocal beat at 00:19:151 while the second one the held vocal stops at 00:27:151. If you want at least one spinner in this diff, then you could probably get away with keeping the first one, but start it at 00:19:151, or place it 01:20:484 like in Hard.

Second layer
- 00:16:262 (5,6,1) - Minor thing, I would arrange the circles to follow the curve of the slider rather than make a straight line, just so it looks a bit neater.
- 00:17:151 - Any particular reason for missing this beat? I feel like you might as well map this if the vocals are being followed, and if you mapped 00:18:040.
- 00:30:707 (3) - Is a loop necessary? In my opinion I don't like these kinds of sliders where the loop isn't clear (no visible hole) since players tend to play them in an unintended way (leaving their cursor still on the loop part) or maybe even get confused by them. There's not much room to make a proper loop with a visible hole, however.
- 01:00:929 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Repeating the same sort of motion over these two combos seemed to stick out in a boring kind of way to me. I think this could work well if you reversed the direction of the second combo somehow.

VINXIS layer
- 00:22:707 (4,5) - This 1/4 jump seems a bit of a stretch for this difficulty and sounds to me.
- 00:54:707 (1,2) - A Ctrl+G on this would fit better to me since I don't think the large jump through 00:54:262 (2,1) really helps to emphasise anything properly.

kusano layer
- Is this diff supposed to have different combo colours?
- 00:50:484 (2,3) - Would be better as a triple like 00:57:596 (2,3,4) so that you don't miss the snare I think. The blue tick vocals isn't significant enough like the other times to leave it as is either.

Bottom layer
=== The gap between this diff and the previous diffs is pretty significant. Given the added difficulty elements, I really don't feel like this is a reasonable enough spread, and I recommend adding another diff in between this and kusano's too (kusano and VINXIS's were very comfortable FCs for me, but this I can only barely pass after a couple of attempts).
- 00:03:484 (7) - I would say that this sort of rhythm would be better so that you map that weird clap thing on the white tick, and so there's less of a gap before the next combo.
- 00:44:040 (1,2,3) - Would've liked to see more spacing between these to match with the build up better.
- 00:52:040 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - What is this spike for aaaaaaaa. I think there's way too much going on through here in terms of movement that it feels less like playing according to the song and more just a big difficult mess. I would at least keep 00:52:040 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) this part somewhat similar since this is all part of the same vocal melody (maybe keep it as the ladder thing like the first 4 notes but keep the spacing increase) so that change at 00:52:929 (1,2,1,2) supports the dropped vocals and high pitched violins. 00:53:040 (2,2) don't even seem to be supported by music but I want to give a benefit of the doubt for adding extra emphasis for the build up/vioins.
VINXIS
00:54:707 (1,2) - i think that its not just the large jump playing here but also the visual symmetry that is put in place because of the patterning done that emphasizes it much more than just the spacing also this plays rly sex so i dont wanna change it >: /


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Naichatta

-Mo- wrote:

kusano layer
- Is this diff supposed to have different combo colours? fixed
- 00:50:484 (2,3) - Would be better as a triple like 00:57:596 (2,3,4) so that you don't miss the snare I think. The blue tick vocals isn't significant enough like the other times to leave it as is either. fixed
thank you for modding :)
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Topic Starter
Kaifin

-Mo- wrote:

First layer
=== Note density does still seem pretty high for the lowest diff in the set. Stuff like 00:36:040 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 00:53:373 (6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - are pretty significant chains of 1/2 seperated objects, and there's quite a few of them in the diff. I do think an Easy is required since nerfing the diff into the ground isn't very nice. ok easy added
- 00:18:484 (1) - 00:26:040 (1) - I think it might be better to map more accurately to the music rather than cover these sections with spinners (specifically background sounds). The first one misses a vocal beat at 00:19:151 while the second one the held vocal stops at 00:27:151. If you want at least one spinner in this diff, then you could probably get away with keeping the first one, but start it at 00:19:151, or place it 01:20:484 like in Hard. both spinners are after the vocals: it's not meant to be a spinner over the held vocal, the parts without vocals have less emphasis in the song and to represent the lack of intensity/give the player a break without it literally being a break, i made them both spinners. they're consistent and the same length and both end on vital points with a finish with enough recovery time for the next object, i don't see why these are an issue.

Second layer
- 00:16:262 (5,6,1) - Minor thing, I would arrange the circles to follow the curve of the slider rather than make a straight line, just so it looks a bit neater. all the triples in the map are like this (asides from the ones that are stacked) and it looks/flows fine so i don't want to break consistency
- 00:17:151 - Any particular reason for missing this beat? I feel like you might as well map this if the vocals are being followed, and if you mapped 00:18:040. i wanted to emphasize the piano: i'm not really particularly trying to follow the vocal here, the reason i map 00:18:040 (3) - is because there has to be some sort of lead into the next rhythm at 00:18:262 - or it would be awkward. i could change this pattern if you really want me to, but it would make the map worse so i don't want to unless i have to
- 00:30:707 (3) - Is a loop necessary? In my opinion I don't like these kinds of sliders where the loop isn't clear (no visible hole) since players tend to play them in an unintended way (leaving their cursor still on the loop part) or maybe even get confused by them. There's not much room to make a proper loop with a visible hole, however. the two slider ticks make it very very clear where the loop is, and i really don't think it'll be confusing to any player, i can get some testplays on the hard if that helps? i just don't see this being an issue at all really and removing it just makes the map more boring
- 01:00:929 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Repeating the same sort of motion over these two combos seemed to stick out in a boring kind of way to me. I think this could work well if you reversed the direction of the second combo somehow. the purpose of this pattern is to explicitly outline the concept of the map: the first vocalist's sliders are lines 01:00:929 (1,2,3,4) - and the second vocalist's are curves 01:02:707 (1,2,3,4) - i could switch the direction of the pattern but it would be awkward and confusing

Bottom layer
=== The gap between this diff and the previous diffs is pretty significant. Given the added difficulty elements, I really don't feel like this is a reasonable enough spread, and I recommend adding another diff in between this and kusano's too (kusano and VINXIS's were very comfortable FCs for me, but this I can only barely pass after a couple of attempts). VINXIS's diff is much harder than kusano's from an objective standpoint and introduces every concept used in the top diff at a lower level: 1/4 highly spaced movement, higher density, and overall rhythm complexity with stuff like the doubles rhythms he uses. Despite the star rating disparity, there is MORE than enough introduction of the concepts used in the top diff in the set, and making an overstarred insane just for the sake of trying to fill a spread by star rating would both bloat the set and be completely unnecessary. i hope you can understand my perspective on why the spread is ok, if you want to talk more about it we can. i can lower the ar and hp of my diff if that helps?
- 00:03:484 (7) - I would say that this sort of rhythm would be better so that you map that weird clap thing on the white tick, and so there's less of a gap before the next combo.
doesn't really fit the song very well to me.. the gap is just following the music, adding a note "dumbs down" the rhythm
- 00:44:040 (1,2,3) - Would've liked to see more spacing between these to match with the build up better. spaced them a little more
- 00:52:040 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - What is this spike for aaaaaaaa. I think there's way too much going on through here in terms of movement that it feels less like playing according to the song and more just a big difficult mess. I would at least keep 00:52:040 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) this part somewhat similar since this is all part of the same vocal melody (maybe keep it as the ladder thing like the first 4 notes but keep the spacing increase) so that change at 00:52:929 (1,2,1,2) supports the dropped vocals and high pitched violins. 00:53:040 (2,2) don't even seem to be supported by music but I want to give a benefit of the doubt for adding extra emphasis for the build up/vioins.

this is the most intense part of the entire song, in the middle of the most intense section so it makes sense for it to be the hardest pattern in the map: this is not a jumbled mess, this is very comfortable 1/4 flow and a completely justified peak in intensity in the map. there is a constant 1/4 in the background that it is following that becomes more emphasized when the spacing increases if you're wondering how the pattern is supported by music. you
say there is "too much going on here in terms of movement" but i really don't think that's the case at all, it's completely reasonable to expect the player to be able to handle this after the clear introduction of the spaced 1/4 at 00:31:151 - how come THIS pattern isn't too much while this one is? multiple testplays from a varied amount of skill levels have hit both of these patterns consistently on sightread/after one play because they are well arranged, set up well within the context of the map and are overall reasonable movements to ask of the player: everyone from xilver to rlc was able to play them so i really do not think the pattern is too much, especially not when the entire map is built around it existing
thank you for the mod, i hope you understand my points: i will make an easy and hopefully that will be fine for spread
Nozhomi
HP8 on last diff feels super unconfortable with that kind of mapping btw.
Topic Starter
Kaifin

Nozhomi wrote:

HP8 on last diff feels super unconfortable with that kind of mapping btw.
one can play a map well, but you can't. then you're just too weak

changed to hp 6 anyways Lol
VINXIS
shudup ur name rhymes wit coffin
Topic Starter
Kaifin
Updated: added easy, changed expert stats to ar 9.2/od 8.5/hp 6, applied mods

@kusano i changed your HP to 6 for consistency i hope that is ok
Karen
i can qualify if you need
Topic Starter
Kaifin

Karen wrote:

i can qualify if you need
yes please :o i am not suring if mo is vetoing or not now that i have added easy, just waiting on him to recheck rn
Einja
add video pls thanx
Topic Starter
Kaifin
kwk's insane to fix spread

video added bgs adjusted to accommodate new diffs

ready now!

irc mod with kwk on his diff kds myself
15:34 kwk: http://puu.sh/ydmeL/6cd3a39f59.osu
15:34 kwk: copy hitsounds from ur diff or soemthing
15:34 Kaifin: ill copy the hitsouonds
15:34 Kaifin: can we irc it rn
15:35 kwk: go
15:35 Kaifin: it fits the spread really well
15:35 Kaifin: btw
15:35 Kaifin: like perfectly
15:35 kwk: thats good
15:36 Kaifin: 00:13:818 (5,6) - i understand what you wer going for with the emphasis here but i think you should lower spacing a bit/make consistent with the other spacing
15:36 Kaifin: not cause its difficult it just looks weird
15:37 Kaifin: stuff like 00:36:040 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - is cool
15:43 Kaifin: 01:25:151 (5) -
15:43 Kaifin: would make this circles like 01:26:040 (2,3) - for consistency
15:43 Kaifin: 00:07:929 (2,3) - why is this far and this 00:08:373 (4,5) - close
15:43 Kaifin: imo would be better if you made both far cause 00:08:373 (4,5) - is the only close one
15:43 Kaifin: in the whole segment
15:44 kwk: 01:25:373 - beat here is weaker
15:44 Kaifin: 00:19:151 - consider something like this, would look a lot nicer + be easier to read/more what you're going for i think https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9455673
15:45 Kaifin: 01:27:373 - sad you didnt map out this double
15:45 kwk: the logic there was if it was the same ds then you wouldnt be able to highlight the piano 00:07:596 (1,2,3) -
15:45 kwk: maybe it makes better sense if the dsing was the other way around
15:45 Kaifin: yes
15:45 Kaifin: then flip them around i'd say
15:46 Kaifin: 00:23:373 (7,8,1) - this seems a little big randomly
15:47 Kaifin: considering the spacing of the 1/4 jumps in the last sectioion
15:47 Kaifin: at 00:18:262 -
15:49 kwk: ya made that smaller
15:49 Kaifin: 00:17:262 (4,1) -
15:49 Kaifin: y not just stack thes
15:51 kwk: cause shit never stacks properly
15:51 kwk: every map yo
15:51 kwk: always
15:51 kwk: idk why
15:51 Kaifin: 01:00:929 - this rhythm might get pointed out as a point but i think its prob fine
15:51 Kaifin: ok send updated ver whenever you're ready
15:52 kwk: also i legit didnt realise there was more stuff at the end
15:52 kwk: whats wrong witht hat rhythm
15:52 kwk: vinxis does it
15:53 Kaifin: its about what you make clickable
15:53 Kaifin: and what you dont make clickable
15:53 Kaifin: not about the rhythm itself
15:53 Kaifin: i do the same rhythm too just with different clickable objects
15:53 Kaifin: compare that rhythm to the rhythm you use at 01:02:707 -
15:54 Kaifin: 01:03:484 (5) - you make all the vocal syllables clickable here
15:54 Kaifin: 01:01:707 (5) - but not here
15:54 kwk: mm
15:57 kwk: well i'll change it later when i can think of a rhythm cause with what i have i think i'll have to make it like 3 1/4 sliders 01:00:929 (1,2,3) - which i dont really want
15:58 kwk: or maybe thats ok
15:58 kwk: hmm
15:58 Kaifin: its probably fine like that
15:58 Kaifin: i was pointing it out just in case
15:58 kwk: killing my patterns
15:59 Kaifin: send updated version so i can copy hs
15:59 kwk: sec, modding harder than mapping
16:00 Kaifin: Ok
16:06 Kaifin: 00:44:484 (5,3) - fix this stak too Lol
16:06 kwk: http://puu.sh/ydnsU/8c7b0b71f2.osu
16:06 kwk: u can fix it
16:06 kwk: lol
16:06 kwk: fix all the other ones u see
16:06 Kaifin: OOk
16:06 Kaifin: no reply = fixed?
16:06 kwk: also why is countdown enabled
16:06 kwk: angry
16:06 Kaifin: Unenabld
16:07 kwk: post logs in thread i give u kd
16:08 Kaifin: Niice
Ascendance
cute map :D
-Mo-
Easy looks fine.

kwk's
- 00:43:818 - Expected this to be clickable since your rhythm so far seems to imply following the vocals, and since the vocals are extra important here I would've kept to it.
- 01:01:929 - Similar thing. Each of the vocal notes in this section seems to be mapped to something clickable apart from this one, so it makes 01:02:040 (6) - stick out too.
- 01:18:707 (1,1,1,1) - If you care about stacking then you could fix these if you wanted, first two are off by a tiny amount but it's nazi so /shrug

I still don't fully agree with that one section in the top diff though. 00:31:151 is more acceptable to me because at least the spaced parts follow roughly a smooth path without a bunch of sharp angles everywhere like a more conventional stream, while 00:52:040 you're changing directions and speeds a lot. Since the spread is actually fixed though, it's probably more acceptable, but I do find it hard to believe that it's intuitive enough for as large a skill level as you claim.

I'm fine with it being pushed though even though I personally disagree with some of the choices, so you can get Delis/Karen to repair.
kwk
fixed all 3 points, thanks -Mo-

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kwk

00:02:929 (6,7,8) - yeah the piano is still different from 00:01:151 (2,3,4) - like it's stronk already at 00:01:262 - and 00:01:151 - is noticeable, 00:02:929 (6,7,8) - here the volume is increasingly raised. although with these I still don't get why this has a smaller spacing but weird patterning instead, like x0.6 and more clearn patterning for them is what would be most appropriate here. the 1/4 jump 00:03:484 (9,10) - is also questionable to me but should be your style, I see a lot people tend to use it as well so.

00:06:484 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - not very comfortable because of the combo hitsounding and the patterning. as long as I tried to figure out the hitsound is random that is irrelevant to the song it self, whistle is constantly on 1/2 which doesn't support the pianos really, the clap is uh idk what it's supposed to do. 00:06:596 (2) - should remove the clap or 00:06:818 (4) - add one to do something reasonable if 00:06:484 (1,2,3,4) - has to be in the equivalent spacing, same goes for 00:07:151 (3,4,5,6) - like this totally looks like it needed to be as a group but is in 00:06:929 (1,2,3,4) - group instead, if this were increasingly spaced from 00:07:151 - the hitsounding would've worked nice enough though this isn't so this does look really weird to me.

00:09:707 (2,3) - any reason behind this has to be like this not 00:07:929 (2,3) - ? tbh this doesn't make sense besides intended to be bad on purpose.

00:13:818 - the normal sample feels out of place so 00:14:151 - is also not something would fill the sound in background.

00:18:262 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - they don't really play pretty when this isn't either spaced out, or being close enough. you're forced to keep the cursor movement slow on the overlapped streams then jumping around, that's common these days but still how the streams mapped out is what I don't really feel comfy at all :/. 00:18:707 (5,6,7) - how this plays would be one of the reasons the cursor feels stuck likely. would just not blanket with 00:18:262 (1,2,3,4) - then place it to be smoother like https://delisha.s-ul.eu/UcF2ttV5 (I fucked up making it but still a lot better to me) though making this no stream jumps at all is what this makes the best ideally after all since the 1/6 slider is very cancerous in a stream already.

00:24:373 (3,4) - swapping the hitsound doesn't make it reasonably having emphasis?? I assume that happened because of hitsound copier so would just move the normal sample 00:24:484 - but it still doesn't make any sense conflicting the usage of emphasis with 00:23:373 (7,8,1) -. if 00:23:596 (1) - meant to be emphasizing the vocal most likely I wouldn't understand what you're doing here lol, you didn't really do it until here.

00:39:596 - the part much getting less intensity can i just ask why. this part deserves more intense pattern than 00:36:040 - (or at least not this huge difference), but this feels like the mapper switched suddenly then mapped out with a different concept.

01:01:596 (4,5) - for the sake of playability, would rather put them closer not making them jumpy.

01:09:040 - 01:09:929 - no need to lower the volume.
not really a problem found in the kiai except it's quite messy in comparison lol

What would I do, this set has gone too far, uh.
kwk

Delis wrote:

kwk

00:02:929 (6,7,8) - yeah the piano is still different from 00:01:151 (2,3,4) - like it's stronk already at 00:01:262 - and 00:01:151 - is noticeable, 00:02:929 (6,7,8) - here the volume is increasingly raised. although with these I still don't get why this has a smaller spacing but weird patterning instead, like x0.6 and more clearn patterning for them is what would be most appropriate here. the 1/4 jump 00:03:484 (9,10) - is also questionable to me but should be your style, I see a lot people tend to use it as well so. :arrow: spacing is lower cause piano is overall softer,i smoothed out the patterning though.

00:06:484 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - not very comfortable because of the combo hitsounding and the patterning. as long as I tried to figure out the hitsound is random that is irrelevant to the song it self, whistle is constantly on 1/2 which doesn't support the pianos really, the clap is uh idk what it's supposed to do. 00:06:596 (2) - should remove the clap or 00:06:818 (4) - add one to do something reasonable if 00:06:484 (1,2,3,4) - has to be in the equivalent spacing, same goes for 00:07:151 (3,4,5,6) - like this totally looks like it needed to be as a group but is in 00:06:929 (1,2,3,4) - group instead, if this were increasingly spaced from 00:07:151 - the hitsounding would've worked nice enough though this isn't so this does look really weird to me. :arrow: remapped patterning,should be more fitting with the hitsounding now

00:09:707 (2,3) - any reason behind this has to be like this not 00:07:929 (2,3) - ? tbh this doesn't make sense besides intended to be bad on purpose. :arrow: made same

00:13:818 - the normal sample feels out of place so 00:14:151 - is also not something would fill the sound in background. :arrow: 00:14:151 - is this only referring to the hitsound and not the rhythm? i changed it to soft

00:18:262 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - they don't really play pretty when this isn't either spaced out, or being close enough. you're forced to keep the cursor movement slow on the overlapped streams then jumping around, that's common these days but still how the streams mapped out is what I don't really feel comfy at all :/. 00:18:707 (5,6,7) - how this plays would be one of the reasons the cursor feels stuck likely. would just not blanket with 00:18:262 (1,2,3,4) - then place it to be smoother like https://delisha.s-ul.eu/UcF2ttV5 (I fucked up making it but still a lot better to me) though making this no stream jumps at all is what this makes the best ideally after all since the 1/6 slider is very cancerous in a stream already. :arrow: remapped

00:24:373 (3,4) - swapping the hitsound doesn't make it reasonably having emphasis?? I assume that happened because of hitsound copier so would just move the normal sample 00:24:484 - but it still doesn't make any sense conflicting the usage of emphasis with 00:23:373 (7,8,1) -. if 00:23:596 (1) - meant to be emphasizing the vocal most likely I wouldn't understand what you're doing here lol, you didn't really do it until here. :arrow: not really fully understanding what you're trying to say but 00:23:596 (1) vocal emphasis here is what im doing, and it doesnt really occur until this part because none of the other vocals before this bit is worth emphasising. i think normal sample is fine since 00:24:373 (3) - is vocal beat?

00:39:596 - the part much getting less intensity can i just ask why. this part deserves more intense pattern than 00:36:040 - (or at least not this huge difference), but this feels like the mapper switched suddenly then mapped out with a different concept. :arrow: i interpret this bit more intense than the next part due to the presence of the drums+violin? on every white tick

01:01:596 (4,5) - for the sake of playability, would rather put them closer not making them jumpy. :arrow: changed this and spacing stuff for the next 5 seconds

01:09:040 - 01:09:929 - no need to lower the volume. :arrow: i cleaned it up
not really a problem found in the kiai except it's quite messy in comparison lol

What would I do, this set has gone too far, uh.
thanks for mod Delis

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ailv
kwk's

00:03:484 (9,10) - i think spacing should be higher its even smaller than 6-7-8 earleir

00:36:373 (2,3) - prolly increase spacing a little? 00:37:263 (2,3) - and 00:38:151 (2,3) - are all higher by a lot

00:47:373 (4,5) - high spacing here vs 00:54:707 (5) - lower spacing here, increase 00:54:707 (5) - spacing here and 00:55:373 (8,1) -

01:08:929 (5,6) - i think by keeping the pattern here the same the "So" vocal loses emphasis,

top diff

00:52:929 (1,2,1,2) - can you move 00:52:929 (1,2) - slightly up so it like looks cleaner https://ailv.s-ul.eu/504h4YmD

01:01:373 (3,4) - i think this spacing is slightly too large, 01:03:151 (3,4) - is smaller for example
Topic Starter
Kaifin

ailv wrote:

top diff

00:52:929 (1,2,1,2) - can you move 00:52:929 (1,2) - slightly up so it like looks cleaner https://ailv.s-ul.eu/504h4YmD its a line right now,
i dont think it looks unclean? your suggestion makes it look worse because of the overlap between 2 and slider end


01:01:373 (3,4) - i think this spacing is slightly too large, 01:03:151 (3,4) - is smaller for example different kinds of movement, one follows the slider flow and one goes against it, which is why the second is smaller

thank you for mod!
alden
hey nice diff kwk! just a few suggestions =w=
*00:08:929 (6,7,8) - I don't think this is really needed, there is no real sound on 00:09:040 (7) - that warrants this being clickable. I suggest using a slider into a circle like you did in 00:07:929 (2,3) -
*00:10:151 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - similarly I think the object usage here could be used better.00:10:151 (4) - The white tick is pretty important so i'd suggest making it clickable and I think the circles would play better if it started here 00:10:596 (6) - .Something like this would make more sense imo. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9752325
*00:17:262 (4) - not really important but maybe make it parallel with 00:16:484 (1) - ?
00:19:596 (5,6,1) - i dont think there's any reason for these objects to be so close to each other and i think you can be more generous with the spacing here. Maybe like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9752370. Oh and 00:20:262 (2) - isn't lined up with the stream but that's just nitpicking and it's barely noticeable.
*00:28:262 (2,3,4,5) - it'd be cool to see these 2 sets could be the same angle. I'm not feeling the asymmetry too much.
*01:13:596 (2,4) - dat blanket
*01:15:596 (3,1) - i dont think there's enough spacing here. What you could do is just ctrl+g all the notes individually for 01:15:818 (1,2,3,4) - but idk if you'll like it. I think changing the movement while keeping the structure looking the same would be nice since it'll be consistent with what you do here 01:08:040 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
*01:18:262 (3,4,5,6,1) - i mean u might as well make this a perfect hemisphere, I think it'll look at lot nicer that way.
kwk

ailv wrote:

kwk's

00:03:484 (9,10) - i think spacing should be higher its even smaller than 6-7-8 earleir :arrow: made it the same, wont make it bigger cause want to focus on emphasizing the piano which occurs on 9 and not on 10

00:36:373 (2,3) - prolly increase spacing a little? 00:37:263 (2,3) - and 00:38:151 (2,3) - are all higher by a lot :arrow: how, without breaking the entire structure?though i think the spacing is fine, its not that big of a distance that it requires them to all be similar

00:47:373 (4,5) - high spacing here vs 00:54:707 (5) - lower spacing here, increase 00:54:707 (5) - spacing here and 00:55:373 (8,1) - :arrow: made 00:47:373 (4,5) - smaller a bit

01:08:929 (5,6) - i think by keeping the pattern here the same the "So" vocal loses emphasis, :arrow: 01:09:151 (6) - i ctrl+g maybe its better
thanks ailv

ChronoNig wrote:

hey nice diff kwk! just a few suggestions =w=
*00:08:929 (6,7,8) - I don't think this is really needed, there is no real sound on 00:09:040 (7) - that warrants this being clickable. I suggest using a slider into a circle like you did in 00:07:929 (2,3) - :arrow: but there is a sound though
*00:10:151 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - similarly I think the object usage here could be used better.00:10:151 (4) - The white tick is pretty important so i'd suggest making it clickable and I think the circles would play better if it started here 00:10:596 (6) - .Something like this would make more sense imo. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9752325 :arrow: im following piano rhythm mainly, and they occur on blue ticks, i changed rhythm here tho 00:10:596 -
*00:17:262 (4) - not really important but maybe make it parallel with 00:16:484 (1) - ? :arrow: nope, i think its better aesthetically this way
00:19:596 (5,6,1) - i dont think there's any reason for these objects to be so close to each other and i think you can be more generous with the spacing here. Maybe like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9752370. Oh and 00:20:262 (2) - isn't lined up with the stream but that's just nitpicking and it's barely noticeable. :arrow: ok
*00:28:262 (2,3,4,5) - it'd be cool to see these 2 sets could be the same angle. I'm not feeling the asymmetry too much. :arrow: not sure how to do this without changing how the flow currently is, and i like how it flows atm
*01:13:596 (2,4) - dat blanket
*01:15:596 (3,1) - i dont think there's enough spacing here. What you could do is just ctrl+g all the notes individually for 01:15:818 (1,2,3,4) - but idk if you'll like it. I think changing the movement while keeping the structure looking the same would be nice since it'll be consistent with what you do here 01:08:040 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - :arrow: hmm i ctrl+h'd the second set, and shifted some stuff around
*01:18:262 (3,4,5,6,1) - i mean u might as well make this a perfect hemisphere, I think it'll look at lot nicer that way. :arrow: how do i make it 3d? :thinking: ,maybe its better now idk
thanks for mod ChronoNig
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Topic Starter
Kaifin
updated
Delis
kwk

00:06:484 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - you apparently tried to fix things here but I really would say the spacing usage between the combos should be the other way around (I mean the smaller spacing for 00:06:484 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - and the bigger for 00:07:151 (1,2,3,4) - ) because this is more like representing the piano by spacing rather than you doing for the hitsounds accordingly aka the drums. and for the sake of playability because the smaller spaced stream section plays quite awkward to jump onto the slider.

00:10:596 (1) - I have no clue why a new combo is here, a single combo along with the equally spaced stream looks a mess. I assume the new combo for 00:10:707 (1) - is probably supposed to emphasize the piano notes but that only makes 00:10:596 (1) - useless as a note as well. https://delisha.s-ul.eu/zBaWiA1W reworking the rhythm like this way will improve the aesthetic + would be more obvious what you're trying to do on this.

00:17:596 (5) - is this jump really something? the rhythm here is randomly mapped with a 1/4 reverse slider which forces the players sightread this a bit, overlap it with the spacing like 00:16:484 (1,2) - has.

00:27:373 (5) - tbh whistle fits

00:31:596 (5) - is spaced too much?? don't think the jump does do anything special in the first place but this unnecessarily placed away with such a huge spacing, could decrease it at least where the follow points don't show up.

00:39:929 (2,3) - 00:40:818 (6,7) - these circles still can be spaced up more the intensity from the monstrata alt patterns to this it's incredibly a big change when the violins and the little bigger drums are the only reason you ended up making this gap.

01:00:484 (7) - making a jump from 01:00:373 (6) - could give a better flow and somewhat consistency with the other patterns here

01:16:707 (1) - this overlap with 01:16:263 (3) - is really gross to me, literally you can do anything to avoid https://delisha.s-ul.eu/l9rlq8PA / https://delisha.s-ul.eu/iWEE3zJQ theres a lot of the ways to map it better
kwk
fixed everything
last point did some other pattern

thx delis
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Topic Starter
Kaifin
all updated
Karen
what is bgplaceholder.png

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00:03:484 (7) - the sound ends 00:03:818 - here imo so try extend the slider?
00:21:707 (5,1) - pretty weird that you don't space them when you did something different 00:14:596 (5,1) - here
00:38:596 (4,1) - spacing could be larger than 00:38:707 (1,2) - this to emphasize 00:38:707 (1) - this note
Topic Starter
Kaifin

Karen wrote:

what is bgplaceholder.png woops removed it

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00:03:484 (7) - the sound ends 00:03:818 - here imo so try extend the slider? sure i extended it and lowered the sv a little to keep the pattern
00:21:707 (5,1) - pretty weird that you don't space them when you did something different 00:14:596 (5,1) - here spaced and changed up the pattern a bit, now i think its a much better pattern
00:38:596 (4,1) - spacing could be larger than 00:38:707 (1,2) - this to emphasize 00:38:707 (1) - this note shifted its position + angle slightly,
i didn't want the emphasis to be too big but hopefully now its more noticeable
thank you, all applied, i moved 00:46:707 (1,2,1,2) - down slightly as well so that the transition from 00:46:040 (1,2,3) - would play a bit better as well
Karen
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