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Black Hole - Pluto [CatchTheBeat]

posted 2017-10-12T03:49:40+00:00

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Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,252 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Ascendance 2017-10-12T03:49:40+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, January 8, 2018 at 4:15:50 AM

Artist: Black Hole
Title: Pluto
Source: DanceDanceRevolution SuperNOVA 2
Tags: beatmania IIDX 15 DJ TROOPERS CS DDR dance revolution pack 3 NM SEQUENCE UNLIMITED Hareimu JBHyperion JBH ZiRoX Razor Sharp Arthas Sanyi Sinnoh BEAT EX
BPM: 100
Filesize: 8320kb
Play Time: 01:39
Difficulties Available:

Ascennoh's Basic (2.09 stars, 213 notes)
Challenge (6.69 stars, 486 notes)
Collab Hyper (4.08 stars, 328 notes)
Hyperion's Expert (5.78 stars, 409 notes)
Razor's Black Another (5.33 stars, 397 notes)
Reimu's Another (4.92 stars, 484 notes)
Sanyi's Beginner (1.46 stars, 129 notes)
ZiRoX's Difficult (3.07 stars, 288 notes)

Download: Black Hole - Pluto
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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#129 Mapset / Ranked #31
Black Hole - Pluto
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Everything I was afraid of when I was growing up, I've become.
I've taken on my nightmares, like the devil and the end of the world, and I've become those things.

Pending on October 12, 2017

Bubbled on January 3, 2018 by Sorcerer

Bubble Popped on January 4, 2018 by Sinnoh

Bubbled on January 4, 2018 by Sorcerer

Qualified on January 8, 2018 by alienflybot

Beginner : By Sanyi

Basic : By Ascendance and Sinnoh

Difficult : By ZiRoX

Hyper : By Ascendance, P i k u and ZiRoX

Another : By Hareimu

Black Another : By Razor Sharp

Expert : By JBHyperion

Challenge : By Ascendance

Hitsounds : By Spectator

Last edited by Ascendance 2018-01-08T09:28:55+00:00, edited 57 times in total.

Hareimu

624 posts

Joined March 2014

Hareimu 2017-10-13T00:46:53+00:00

Reimu's Another

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 63106
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 2
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 3.899999

[Metadata]
Title:Pluto
TitleUnicode:Pluto
Artist:Black Hole
ArtistUnicode:Black∞Hole
Creator:Ascendance
Version:Reimu's Another
Source:DanceDanceRevolution SuperNOVA2
Tags:beatmania IIDX 15 DJ TROOPERS CS DDR pack 3 NM SEQUENCE UNLIMITED hareimu
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:-1

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:4.5
OverallDifficulty:9
ApproachRate:9
SliderMultiplier:1.75
SliderTickRate:4

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//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
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Hareimu

624 posts

Joined March 2014

Hareimu 2017-10-13T01:10:35+00:00

mod thing

[Challenge]

00:29:403 (4) - Maybe move this to x:132 (2x distance) and 00:29:653 (6) - to x:112 (2,4x distance)? Works better for me and still maintains that crescendo distance you intended to use here.
00:32:028 (1,2) - Move to x:228, rn it's kinda too harsh to catch IMO.
00:57:228 (3) - Move to x:106? The sound in the BG is identical to the sound covered in 00:57:092 (2) - so I don't really think there should be that much of a difference in spacing.
01:16:919 (2) - Move to x:179? Just a little nerf to avoid shitmissing without reason.
01:18:965 (1,2) - Copypaste and ctrl+h these 01:19:374 (1,2) - here? The sounds on both places are the same, so I don't see reason to use ,10x more distance in the latter compared to the former.
01:26:112 (2) - Too much distance from the previous slider, x:224 works wonders better here.
01:33:307 (4,5) - Tilt these a bit vertically to reduce spacing?
01:36:888 (5,6,7,8) - I think the distance used between these is a bit too much. I can't get myself to catch not even three of the four notes most of the time, me myself would reduce it by 0,20x to see if it works any better.

Hareimu

624 posts

Joined March 2014

Hareimu 2017-10-13T01:13:15+00:00

reimu's another unsnapped stuff fixed version

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Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,252 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Ascendance 2017-10-13T01:15:42+00:00

triple kill

Hareimu

624 posts

Joined March 2014

Hareimu 2017-10-13T02:03:08+00:00

quad kill post reimu's another update with an increase in SV on most kiai sections so that sliders aren't as slow

osu file format v14

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Creator:Ascendance
Version:Reimu's Another
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Tags:beatmania IIDX 15 DJ TROOPERS CS DDR pack 3 NM SEQUENCE UNLIMITED hareimu
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-rage

425 posts

Joined August 2013

-rage 2017-10-13T04:47:52+00:00

yea

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,252 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Ascendance 2017-10-14T06:33:26+00:00

Hareimu wrote:
mod thing

[Challenge]
00:29:403 (4) - Maybe move this to x:132 (2x distance) and 00:29:653 (6) - to x:112 (2,4x distance)? Works better for me and still maintains that crescendo distance you intended to use here. Okay
00:32:028 (1,2) - Move to x:228, rn it's kinda too harsh to catch IMO. 222 instead, it's intended to be harsh
00:57:228 (3) - Move to x:106? The sound in the BG is identical to the sound covered in 00:57:092 (2) - so I don't really think there should be that much of a difference in spacing. Ok
01:16:919 (2) - Move to x:179? Just a little nerf to avoid shitmissing without reason. Alright
01:18:965 (1,2) - Copypaste and ctrl+h these 01:19:374 (1,2) - here? The sounds on both places are the same, so I don't see reason to use ,10x more distance in the latter compared to the former. Just reduced cuz that's a lot of effort
01:26:112 (2) - Too much distance from the previous slider, x:224 works wonders better here. 245 instead
01:33:307 (4,5) - Tilt these a bit vertically to reduce spacing? I think it's okay :3
01:36:888 (5,6,7,8) - I think the distance used between these is a bit too much. I can't get myself to catch not even three of the four notes most of the time, me myself would reduce it by 0,20x to see if it works any better. only slightly

Thx :3

Sanyi

236 posts

Joined November 2015

Sanyi 2017-10-24T22:04:53+00:00

beginner diff desu~

https://puu.sh/y6jtG/3208d38290.osu

Don't forget to add me to the tags!

Is there a reason why Emiru is in the tags?

Hareimu

624 posts

Joined March 2014

Hareimu 2017-10-28T20:23:24+00:00

irc mod over sanyi's cup

16:53 Hareimu: want the mod? :^)
16:54 Sanyi: yes that would be nice :))
16:54 Hareimu: well, let's begin
16:54 Hareimu: first of all
16:54 Hareimu: you'd want your ncs to be as close to the downbeats as possible (if not on the downbeats)
16:55 Hareimu: if the nc can't be on the downbeats (because a slider finishes over one, for example), you'd want the nc to be on the next object
16:55 Sanyi: ok haven't really payed attention to ncs *facepalm*
16:55 Hareimu: 00:01:904 (1,2) - this, for example, would look better in gameplay if 00:02:954 (2) - had the nc instead
16:55 Sanyi: will do that
16:56 Hareimu: this is because the platter clears at 00:02:504 - , which is more intuitive
16:56 Hareimu: right now, the platter clears at 00:01:604 - , which is rather weird looking
16:57 Sanyi: yo no complains with that, will change them
16:57 Sanyi: but let me do that later, I write it down in my to do list
16:58 Hareimu: kk
16:58 Hareimu: 00:07:704 (2) - this note is unsnapped
16:58 Hareimu: should be 00:07:754 - here as all other notes until now
16:59 Sanyi: fixed
17:00 Hareimu: 00:39:038 - I think you'd want the break to begin at 00:41:438 - here instead
17:00 Hareimu: like, drag the gray looking thing that triggers an animation on your cursor until 00:41:438 - this point
17:00 Sanyi: you mean the break setting?
17:01 Sanyi: ah ok yes will do that, haven't even thought about that
17:01 Hareimu: break setting... dunno if we're talking about the same thing but yeah I guess
17:02 Sanyi: thought for a second you meant the notes should go until 00:41:438 - , I wouldn't have done that
17:02 Hareimu: and IDK why 00:45:188 - the ending of the break has been moved to a different point than where it was by default here
17:03 Hareimu: also no, don't do that thing you just said, it'd look rather weird xD (the notes going until that point)
17:03 Sanyi: idk either
17:03 Sanyi: yeah yeah
17:03 Sanyi: I just moved the grey bar on the timeline
17:03 Hareimu: exactly that
17:04 Sanyi: where exactly should the break stop then?
17:04 Hareimu: it should stop on the default position
17:04 Hareimu: 00:45:188 - I think here
17:04 Hareimu: (you can't drag it anywhere else further than that)
17:04 Sanyi: yep I see it
17:05 Sanyi: did that
17:05 Hareimu: you could leave the whole 00:58:456 - until 01:03:256 - as a break too
17:05 Hareimu: not that you have to, just a suggestion
17:06 Sanyi: both decisions are reasonable I guess, will ask other mappers/modders what they like more and will go with the more popular way
17:06 Hareimu: kk
17:06 Sanyi: what would you prefer?
17:07 Hareimu: I'd prefer to have it as a break myself, since 00:41:438 - this part was left unmapped and both are kinda similar between each other
17:07 Hareimu: but it's also ok to map it too
17:08 Sanyi: ok
17:08 Hareimu: next thing
17:08 Hareimu: 01:21:965 (2) - this note is over no sounds
17:08 Hareimu: like
17:08 Hareimu: the sounds audible from 01:21:692 - to 01:22:237 - are 1/3 sounds
17:08 Hareimu: I'd just delete 01:21:692 (1,2) - 
17:09 Hareimu: there's no need to make the rhythm structure that much complex
17:09 Hareimu: it's just a cup
17:09 Sanyi: ok don't yet if I will delete it or redo it, but it is definitively wrong as it is right now
17:10 Hareimu: yea
17:10 Hareimu: moving on from that, 01:26:987 (1) - is unsnapped
17:10 Sanyi: I am pretty sure that I figured out that 1/3 myself, wondering now why I didn't map it then 1/3 :thinking:
17:10 Hareimu: xD
17:11 Hareimu: 01:39:111 (3) - you could also move this note to x:462, since it's the ending and it's a pretty noticeable descrescendo in rhythm density, you could reflect that with decreasing distancing
17:12 Sanyi: yeah ok fixing that right now, need to move around things a bit because of space problems
17:12 Sanyi: I mean the previous one btw so gimme a bit of time pls
17:12 Hareimu: kk
17:12 Hareimu: will be waiting
17:16 Sanyi: 01:39:111 (3) - I won't put it on the right side (I just don't like it), but will decrease the distance to the previous note for better emphasis
17:16 Hareimu: kk
17:17 Hareimu: that's it then
17:17 Hareimu: 00:21:561 (1) - this object isn't snapped
17:17 Hareimu: you should overall open the timing dropdown menu and click on resnap all notes just in case
17:18 Hareimu: (it's a short cup anyway, if something resnaps in the wrong way you can always review the diff real quick)
17:18 Sanyi: yeah it is in AiMod, thought I managed to snap all unsnapped thingys but it seemed that I messed up ^^
17:18 Sanyi: and did resnap option
17:18 Hareimu: whelp
17:19 Hareimu: NOW it's finished
17:19 Hareimu: so yeah, gonna post this savelog on the thread just to keep track of changes
17:20 Sanyi: yo thanks for the mod :) , seems that I need to pay more attention to snaps and ncs
17:20 Sanyi: yo do that

Sanyi

236 posts

Joined November 2015

Sanyi 2017-10-28T20:54:34+00:00

Update on my diff: https://puu.sh/y9oRJ/1a693177c2.osu

ZiRoX

Elite Mapper

1,052 posts

Joined November 2009

ZiRoX 2017-10-28T23:01:34+00:00

Pluto (minor-planet designation: 134340 Pluto) is a dwarf planet in the Kuiper belt, a ring of bodies beyond Neptune. It was the first Kuiper belt object to be discovered.

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Razor Sharp

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Joined October 2013

Razor Sharp 2017-10-29T03:46:00+00:00

done. please copy HS from ur diff

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wonjae

768 posts

Joined October 2014

wonjae 2017-11-11T04:33:31+00:00

Christmas before Thanksgiving!

Going to mod 3 maps from the set that i can find problems in.

Spread Issues: Razor's Diff has higher AR/HP than Hyperion's Etxpert. Im pretty sure Expert > Another, so you should look into that and come up with an agreement upon eachother. Also you should finish the Hyper or something.

Sanyi

Timing/Timeline: There are alot of unused timing points that you should get rid of:

00:13:454 -
00:17:817 -
00:22:539 -
00:22:604 -
00:51:433 -
00:54:842 -
00:59:056 -
01:15:351 -
01:17:533 -
ok theres way more after and im too lazy to copy/paste them all, just look for them yourself.

01:08:056 (1) - im really against having short spinners (spinners less than 2 measures) in low diffs because they can be disorientating for new players that cant read and adapt well. i think its fine if you just delete.

01:21:828 - add a note here?

Razor

00:15:158 (1) - , 00:17:340 (1) - I think you should consider making these a hyper, or atleast make 00:17:340 (1) - a hyper to emphasize the higher pitch noise that the slider is now mapping that the previous sliders from before (like 00:12:976 (1) - ) didnt have.

00:18:691 (2) - There is a ding noise in this slider that i think would be better emphasized if you made the hyper go to 00:18:822 , instead of to 00:18:952 (3).
I understand that this is repeated throughout the whole kiai and changing all of this could be a total time waster. but it throws me off when im playing the map

01:00:856 (1) - im kinda against putting a break here actually, even just mapping 1/1 or 1/2 sliders to map the song but to show that the part is less intense can fit the job imo, putting a rest kinda stops all momentum of the song even though its still playing.

01:21:874 (2) - maybe put a hyper to here somehow

Hyperion

00:46:238 (1,1) - You probably know this, but the spinner has the bananas ending at the left side, and the first fruit falls on the right. move the fruit more to the left if you want but based on what happened with YoiYoi Kokon, you dont have to

01:06:256 (5,6,1,2,3,4,1) - left right patterns kinda boring imo, maybe find some way to zest it up instead of making it left right spam

01:29:117 (1,2,3,4) - *praise pattern* these edgedashes are hillariously fun and annoying.

cant play ur challenge lol, map easier maps

Sanyi

236 posts

Joined November 2015

Sanyi 2017-11-11T11:08:43+00:00

Paranoid Grapes wrote:
Sanyi
Timing/Timeline: There are alot of unused timing points that you should get rid of:

00:13:454 -
00:17:817 -
00:22:539 -
00:22:604 -
00:51:433 -
00:54:842 -
00:59:056 -
01:15:351 -
01:17:533 -
ok theres way more after and im too lazy to copy/paste them all, just look for them yourself. Not every point you pointed out was unused,
but I did go through the timing panel and deleted the unused ones. Hopefully I didn't mess up!

01:08:056 (1) - im really against having short spinners (spinners less than 2 measures) in low diffs because they can be disorientating for new players that cant read and adapt well. i think its fine if you just delete. Won't change anything now since I don't think that it is really an issue but will change it when other modders point it out as well.

01:21:828 - add a note here? Good idea, but Hareimu and I came to the conclusion to not map it because of simplification. Since these sounds are very remarkable I will map them anyways when at least one other modder point it out as well.

Thanks for modding!

Updated diff: https://puu.sh/yjAE6/3dfd0ea4d6.osu

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2017-11-11T21:47:36+00:00

Paranoid Grapes wrote:
Christmas before Thanksgiving!

Going to mod 3 maps from the set that i can find problems in.

Spread Issues: Razor's Diff has higher AR/HP than Hyperion's Expert. Im pretty sure Expert > Another, so you should look into that and come up with an agreement upon eachother. Also you should finish the Hyper or something. Gonna try 9.2/9.4/9.6 if Razor is ok with it

Hyperion
00:46:238 (1,1) - You probably know this, but the spinner has the bananas ending at the left side, and the first fruit falls on the right. move the fruit more to the left if you want but based on what happened with YoiYoi Kokon, you dont have to Yoiyoi at least had a strong sound there to partly justify the cancer, but yeah this is better if I just flip the section

01:06:256 (5,6,1,2,3,4,1) - left right patterns kinda boring imo, maybe find some way to zest it up instead of making it left right spam Added a nifty antiflow thing so it's more zesty

01:29:117 (1,2,3,4) - *praise pattern* these edgedashes are hillariously fun and annoying. glad you approve, reduced hyper strength a bit to make these more lenient

thanks for the suggestions!

xprt

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Sanyi

236 posts

Joined November 2015

Sanyi 2017-11-18T13:13:20+00:00

~~Not so~~ Secret Santa

General

As Paranoid Grapes already said - please adjust the AR of the Overdose diffs (I think that 9.3/9.4/9.5 is better though because 9.2 is too low for Razor's diff imo). I also suggest to make Razor's diff HP 6 because the end part is really harsh.
There is a pretty weird bug atm: When I update Razor's diff to the latest pending version it deletes all notes and changes the bg image. Don't know if that happens only to me but I wanted to mention it. ~~The bug disappeared now LOL.~~ AND NOW IT IS THERE AGAIN WTF IS HAPPENING?!?

Sanyi's Beginner

Best diff out of the german ones!

Basic

00:00:554 (2,3) - I understand that you reduced the distance every time by a bit for emphasizing but this distance is a bit tricky imo, for me it is clearly walkable but it might not be that clear to less experienced players. I think reducing it slightly would benefit the readability (ofc the other distances would need to be adjusted too then).
00:08:954 (5) - This feels really underemphasized atm, no dash, no direction change, nothing. I think it deserves atleast a direction change if not a dash regarding its intensity.
00:24:431 (3,1) - Shouldn't this be a dash to keep consistency rhythm-wise?

Please try to keep it under 2.25 stars ok? If it becomes difficult just lower the distance for the hardest dashes a bit, there are already some spicy ones!

ZiRoX's Difficult

00:26:518 (7,1) - Being this no hyper while 00:29:528 (5,1) - being a hyper seems inconsistent to me. I would make both a hyper or none. Also: Hyperdash into direction change slider like 00:29:528 (5,1) - is kinda edgy for a Platter, I think making a curved slider or something similar is better, otherwise people like me might see it as hyper into antiflow.
The kiai starting at 00:32:778 - is pretty hyperdash-intense. I think making 00:33:429 (4,5) - and 00:36:559 (4,5) - a normal dash instead fits a Platter better.
00:35:517 (2,1) - Isn't that over 1.5 times over the trigger distance and therefore unrankable?
01:05:056 (2) - This is a normal 1/2 slider while 01:07:456 (2) - is a 1/4 repeat slider which is rhythm-wise odd imo, I would make them even. I think making 01:07:456 (2) - like the three sliders beforehand should seal the deal.
I would map 01:09:828 - and 01:15:556 - , the first one because it fits your mapping choices better imo and the second one just because it sounds odd while playing the section atm.
01:18:965 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Isn't the combo a bit too long?
01:23:862 (7,1) - This should be a normal dash instead imo to keep consistency with the rest of the section (I also think it is emphasizing-wise better).
01:33:076 (5,6,7) - and 01:34:888 (5,6,7) - are pretty harsh for a Platter imo. I still think it is ok, but if other modders say something about this I would consider reducing the distance after the hyper a bit.
01:39:333 (1) - Are you sure you wanna put a spinner here? No other diff did that, therefore if you delete it every diff ends at the same spot which fulfills the guideline and leads to more consistency in the mapset which would be nice.

Collab Hyper

00:14:340 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - The movement difficulty doesn't match the rest of the section. Mapping 00:14:749 (6) - is also inconsistent with the rest of the section. I would suggest to make an easier pattern without mapping the mentioned note.
00:29:528 (4,1) - A hyper here for more remarkable rhythm would be very appreciated. This can be easily achieved by extending 00:29:528 (4) - to a 1/4 slider.
The whistle hitsounds in the part starting at 00:41:438 - are pretty distracting imo and doesn't support the mapping imo. Consider changing them.
01:06:256 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Plays pretty plain in comparison to the previous pattern, I think making something more movement inducing would be nice here (especially for 01:06:256 (3,4,5,6,1) - ).

Reimu's Another

Couldn't find anything LOL, very well made diff imo. The only thing that I dislike is that the diff hasn't got a spinner like the other ones.

Razor's Black Another

00:16:249 (1,2,3,4,1) - This part is emphasizing-wise a bit odd imo because 00:17:067 (4,1) - plays pretty similar to the previous three sliders (especially 00:17:067 (4) - ), but they should play differently to emphasize the sounds better. You managed it better in similar sections beforehand so I am sure that you can change it up here to something better fitting too.
00:37:473 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - The build-up is overdone here considering the music imo, therefore I suggest to reduce the build-up (the chain hypers at the end doesn't really fit anyways imo).
00:58:756 (1,1) - Pretty weird to me, I think mapping it all with notes or making the spinner longer is ok but the break is really weird and changing from the spinner to the note too.
Two unsnapped green lines at 01:18:552 - (should be 01:18:556 - ) and 01:18:961 - (should be 01:18:965 - ).
The distances in the pattern from 01:22:237 - until the end of the map (especially in the last kiai) get too harsh imo, doesn't match the difficulty of the rest of the map. Especially the antiflow patterns in combination with the really harsh distances are way harder than before. I highly suggest to nerf the map a bit (it is ok when the last kiai stays a bit harder than the rest of the map but not as much as it is now).

Hyperion's Expert

00:26:778 (1,2,3,4) - and 00:29:778 (1,2) - should be mapped the same way imo considering that they are representing the same sounds.
00:32:278 (5,6) - Making these 1/2 sliders instead of the plain single notes you used every time beforehand is an odd rhythm choice imo. Using similar 1/2 sliders for 00:29:278 (5,6,7,8) - would lead to a much more remarkable rhythm because you would switch between single notes and 1/2 sliders every single time.

Challenge

Not sure if that is still a problem but you are changing the volume with green lines at 00:00:104 - and 00:09:704 - .
00:11:885 (1) - Underemphasized imo, a hyper would fit here imo.
00:28:153 (6,1) - and 00:31:153 (6,1) - are also not remarkable enough imo. I can understand that you didn't want to make them a hyper so what about starting of every second white tick with a slider to create more remarkable rhythm?
The whistle hitsounds in the part starting at 00:41:438 - are pretty distracting imo and doesn't support the mapping imo. Consider changing them.
Two unsnapped green lines at 01:18:552 - (should be 01:18:556 - ) and 01:18:961 - (should be 01:18:965 - ).
01:37:222 (8,1) - I would reduce the distance a bit, it is really hard to catch imo and missing here will be really frustrating.

Good luck on ranking! I want my first ranked diff uwu

Razor Sharp

1,167 posts

Joined October 2013

Razor Sharp 2017-11-21T00:43:26+00:00

Paranoid Grapes wrote:
Christmas before Thanksgiving!

Going to mod 3 maps from the set that i can find problems in.

Spread Issues: Razor's Diff has higher AR/HP than Hyperion's Etxpert. Im pretty sure Expert > Another, so you should look into that and come up with an agreement upon eachother. Also you should finish the Hyper or something. AR n stuff is changed to 9.3 now.

Razor
01:21:874 (2) - maybe put a hyper to here somehow - Nah i dont feel like having this as a hyper. It is calm for me even tho the pitch is high.

Sanyi wrote:

~~Not so~~ Secret Santa

General
As Paranoid Grapes already said - please adjust the AR of the Overdose diffs (I think that 9.3/9.4/9.5 is better though because 9.2 is too low for Razor's diff imo). I also suggest to make Razor's diff HP 6 because the end part is really harsh.
There is a pretty weird bug atm: When I update Razor's diff to the latest pending version it deletes all notes and changes the bg image. Don't know if that happens only to me but I wanted to mention it. ~~The bug disappeared now LOL.~~ AND NOW IT IS THERE AGAIN WTF IS HAPPENING?!?

Razor's Black Another
00:37:473 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - The build-up is overdone here considering the music imo, therefore I suggest to reduce the build-up (the chain hypers at the end doesn't really fit anyways imo). - Im gonna keep this for now. This is to throw players back on memory lane to how the standard vesion is played in ctb. Increasing distance to add something new into the mix. Personally idont see any problem with them
The distances in the pattern from 01:22:237 - until the end of the map (especially in the last kiai) get too harsh imo, doesn't match the difficulty of the rest of the map. Especially the antiflow patterns in combination with the really harsh distances are way harder than before. I highly suggest to nerf the map a bit (it is ok when the last kiai stays a bit harder than the rest of the map but not as much as it is now). - Changed some patterns and distances. Still want to keep the general idea of how it is.
Good luck on ranking! I want my first ranked diff uwu

Thanks for the mods!

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P i k u

189 posts

Joined June 2013

P i k u 2017-11-21T17:44:20+00:00

Sanyi wrote:

Collab Hyper
The whistle hitsounds in the part starting at 00:41:438 - are pretty distracting imo and doesn't support the mapping imo. Consider changing them. | Ok removed
01:06:256 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Plays pretty plain in comparison to the previous pattern, I think making something more movement inducing would be nice here (especially for 01:06:256 (3,4,5,6,1) - ). | Increased curve angle and changed following slider patterns

Thanks!

Code

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Artist:Black Hole
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Creator:Ascendance
Version:Collab Hyper
Source:DanceDanceRevolution SuperNOVA2
Tags:beatmania IIDX 15 DJ TROOPERS CS DDR pack 3 NM SEQUENCE UNLIMITED Hareimu JBHyperion JBH ZiRoX Razor Sharp Arthas Sanyi
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JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2017-11-21T22:20:48+00:00

Sanyi wrote:

~~Not so~~ Secret Santa

Hyperion's Expert
00:26:778 (1,2,3,4) - and 00:29:778 (1,2) - should be mapped the same way imo considering that they are representing the same sounds. I mapped the first one as a quad to highlight the rhythm change, and also because it's just stronger here for some reason - after that I followed the more expected long sound
00:32:278 (5,6) - Making these 1/2 sliders instead of the plain single notes you used every time beforehand is an odd rhythm choice imo. Using similar 1/2 sliders for 00:29:278 (5,6,7,8) - would lead to a much more remarkable rhythm because you would switch between single notes and 1/2 sliders every single time. Do you mean 1/4 sliders? The first 3 times this rhythm comes around the pitch is decreasing, but here I want to emphasise the following pitch increase at the start of the kiai, hence the antiflow forcing a kickback direction change
Good luck on ranking! I want my first ranked diff uwu

Thanks for the suggestions! no changes from me though.

Hareimu

624 posts

Joined March 2014

Hareimu 2017-11-22T05:51:40+00:00

Sanyi wrote:

~~Not so~~ Secret Santa
Reimu's Another

Couldn't find anything LOL, very well made diff imo. The only thing that I dislike is that the diff hasn't got a spinner like the other ones. added a spinner and copied hitsounding (remade it as well) to my own diff

thanks!

another

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rew0825

1,290 posts

Joined March 2013

rew0825 2017-11-25T12:49:23+00:00

Hello I'm sercet santa :3

Challenge

00:11:749 (4,1) - Between this I think it's should dash?
00:19:474 (1,2) - I think it look suddenly. I suggest 00:19:604 (2) - change move to left look is better?
00:27:153 (4,5) - Between this I think it's should dash?
00:37:473 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - The distance between (1,2,3) of each section should gradually increase?
00:47:438 (1,2) - The distance is shorter than before note. I think player will feel confused. I suggest increase the distance.
00:49:047 (4) - I suggest move it to overlap 00:48:774 (2) - I think it's better play.
00:53:138 (4,5) - I suggest move it to x:280 for make 00:53:001 (2,3) - and 00:53:274 (4,5) - Hdash. I think it's better play.
00:55:592 (4,5,6,7) - I suggest move to x:348 for make 00:55:456 (3,4) - and 00:56:001 (7,1) - Hdash. I think it's better play.
00:57:365 (4) - I suggest move it to overlap 00:57:228 (3) - and then ctrl+h and move it to overlap 00:57:774 (7) - for make 00:57:365 (4,5) - Hdash. I think it's better play.
01:36:666 (3) - Move it to left? for make 01:36:555 (2,3,4) - flow.

Hyperion's Expert

00:22:996 (1) - I think this slider the movement is should a bit move to right.
00:34:343 (1,2) - I think it's should Hdash on this more than on 00:34:734 (2,3) - .
00:37:473 (1,2) - I think it's should Hdash on this more than on 00:37:864 (2,3) - .
00:42:338 (4) - I suggest change it to single note and then add note on 00:42:488 - 00:42:563 - at x:164,218 follow the sequence. The pattern is similar like 00:44:888 (6,1) - .

Razor's Black Another

00:33:821 (1,2,3,4) - I think it's look weird for me. I suggest change it to similar like 00:32:778 (1,2,3,4) - by ctrl+g it and distance is gradually decrease.
00:36:951 (1,2,3,4) - Same as above^.
00:55:728 (4) - Move it to right for make flow different with 00:55:183 (1,2) - is antiflow.
01:31:923 (1,2) - I think the movement is weird. I suggest change 01:32:153 (2) - this to move to left.

Reimu's Another

01:09:692 (5,6,7) - I suggest move 01:09:692 (5,7) - to overlap 01:09:828 (6) - and 01:09:828 (6) - move to overlap 01:09:692 (5,7) -

That's all from me. Good luck <3 //Maybe I will mod this more

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2017-11-25T12:55:00+00:00

rew0825 wrote:
Hello I'm sercet santa :3

Hyperion's Expert
00:22:996 (1) - I think this slider the movement is should a bit move to right. Moved it a little
00:34:343 (1,2) - I think it's should Hdash on this more than on 00:34:734 (2,3) - . White tick sound is much stronger for me than the blue and is also more expected for the player
00:37:473 (1,2) - I think it's should Hdash on this more than on 00:37:864 (2,3) - . Here they are both strong so I flipped the following pattern to make a double hyper here
00:42:338 (4) - I suggest change it to single note and then add note on 00:42:488 - 00:42:563 - at x:164,218 follow the sequence. The pattern is similar like 00:44:888 (6,1) - . (4) is the same as the previous sounds in this rhythm so I see no reason to map it differently

That's all from me. Good luck <3 //Maybe I will mod this more

Thanks for the suggestions! (:

Xprt

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Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

1,962 posts

Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2017-11-29T13:56:38+00:00

mod: pluto doesn't have rings!! you are using a different planet in your bg! make sure that the bg is appropriate for the song , adnf the bacgkround in your planet is pluto

your bpm needs to double. Clap along to the song, does clapping at 100 or 200 bpm feel more natural, latter should.

osu file format v14

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Title:Pluto
TitleUnicode:Pluto
Artist:Black Hole
ArtistUnicode:Black∞Hole
Creator:Ascendance
Version:Ascennoh's Basic
Source:DanceDanceRevolution SuperNOVA2
Tags:beatmania IIDX 15 DJ TROOPERS CS DDR pack 3 NM SEQUENCE UNLIMITED Hareimu JBHyperion JBH ZiRoX Razor Sharp Arthas Sanyi Sinnoh
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Razor Sharp

1,167 posts

Joined October 2013

Razor Sharp 2017-11-30T16:56:09+00:00

rew0825 wrote:
Hello I'm sercet santa :3

Razor's Black Another
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That's all from me. Good luck <3 //Maybe I will mod this more

all fixed!

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ZiRoX

Elite Mapper

1,052 posts

Joined November 2009

ZiRoX 2017-12-02T19:19:20+00:00

Sanyi wrote:
ZiRoX's Difficult
00:26:518 (7,1) - Being this no hyper while 00:29:528 (5,1) - being a hyper seems inconsistent to me. I would make both a hyper or none. Also: Hyperdash into direction change slider like 00:29:528 (5,1) - is kinda edgy for a Platter, I think making a curved slider or something similar is better, otherwise people like me might see it as hyper into antiflow. Made a dash like the others.
The kiai starting at 00:32:778 - is pretty hyperdash-intense. I think making 00:33:429 (4,5) - and 00:36:559 (4,5) - a normal dash instead fits a Platter better.
00:35:517 (2,1) - Isn't that over 1.5 times over the trigger distance and therefore unrankable? Fixed while fixing the previous suggestion
01:05:056 (2) - This is a normal 1/2 slider while 01:07:456 (2) - is a 1/4 repeat slider which is rhythm-wise odd imo, I would make them even. I think making 01:07:456 (2) - like the three sliders beforehand should seal the deal. The piano sounds are different here because the section is ending, so this slider is different to reflect that.
I would map 01:09:828 - and 01:15:556 - , the first one because it fits your mapping choices better imo and the second one just because it sounds odd while playing the section atm. The first one isn't following the sound I'm following, so I'm not adding it. [/color]
01:18:965 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Isn't the combo a bit too long? Woops
01:23:862 (7,1) - This should be a normal dash instead imo to keep consistency with the rest of the section (I also think it is emphasizing-wise better). This is the only dash because the BPM of the following sections doesn't allow adding 1/4 HDashes. That's the only reason it's inconsistent, otherwise I would have added HDashes later.
01:33:076 (5,6,7) - and 01:34:888 (5,6,7) - are pretty harsh for a Platter imo. I still think it is ok, but if other modders say something about this I would consider reducing the distance after the hyper a bit. I nerfed them a bit.
01:39:333 (1) - Are you sure you wanna put a spinner here? No other diff did that, therefore if you delete it every diff ends at the same spot which fulfills the guideline and leads to more consistency in the mapset which would be nice. The spinner fits.

Thanks for the mod

Update

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Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

1,962 posts

Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2017-12-07T13:24:18+00:00

mapping only the top diff to a set is really lazy to me :/ Obviously it's just my opinion but when you're an experienced mapper, you have higher expectations imo, it just comes across as "hm I'm just gonna map one diff and sit back" instead of putting substantial effort into the creation of your set

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,252 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Ascendance 2017-12-16T03:33:58+00:00

all diffs are now fully hitsounded, will search for a few mods and apply some stuff and stuff

Sorceress

332 posts

Joined September 2012

Sorceress 2017-12-30T21:54:43+00:00

Happy birthday

[

General]

Metadata: Sinnoh needs adding to tags across all difficulties except Basic
Hitsound Issues: drum-hitnormal seems rather quiet, might help to increase the volume of it or use an alternative sample, it can be quite hard to notice during gameplay
Other: Sanyi's Beginner and Ascennoh's Basic seem to be using different timing points than all the other diffs

[

Sanyi's Beginner]

00:01:904 (5) - Not the biggest fan of representing 00:02:504 - with a slider tail, it's quite a strong beat that doesn't get represented well with the little movement required on this slider. A bit more movement on this slider for the tail would help add a bit of emphasis to this sound. Same for 00:04:304 (4) - and 00:06:704 (4) -
00:23:648 (2,3,4,1) - 00:25:735 (2,3,4,1) - These two patterns play very similarly and they're back to back so it feels a bit repetitive. Would be nice to add a bit more variety here probably through an additional direction change somewhere
01:08:056 (1) - Don't think a spinner is a good fit here. I don't think it matches up with the sound well and it's quite short in duration, players may struggle to react in time before the spinner is pretty much over

[

Ascennoh's Basic]

[Collab kid 1]

00:26:257 (4,5) - This distance is a bit ambiguous and considering it leads in to a dash I'd nerf this to be a more comfortable walk

[Collab kid 2]
01:09:146 - Sliders are broke here until about 01:15:556 -, they're all extended somewhat

[

ZiRoX's Difficult]

01:31:461 (6,1) - These quick little direction changes are challenging at this level so I'd reduce the distance between these two to add some leniency
01:39:333 (1) - Probably want to silence the hitsound at the end of this spinner

[

Collab Hyper]

[Collab1]

00:14:476 (4,5,6,7) - This is a tricky pattern to hit at this level after the antiflow hyper from 00:14:340 (3) - , I'd suggest to really nerf this
[Collab 2]
01:06:856 (1,2,3,4) - This antiflow spam is a bit sudden, little bit of an unnecessary difficulty spike. I'd suggest to at least remove the antiflow between 01:06:856 (1,2) -
[Collab 3]
01:29:117 (5,6) - This little spacing increase is a bit awkward to play. Moving across 01:28:997 (4,5,6) - requires you to go a variety of speeds in the same direction, it would help to make the gap between these closer to 1.0x DS so it follows on from the slider nicely
01:39:333 (1) - Same point as in the Platter about silencing the hitsound on this spinner

[

Razor's Black Another]

00:13:385 (1) - Seems odd to end this slider so soon, I'd extend it another tick to replace 00:13:794 (2) -
00:22:996 (3,4) - Not hearing anything worth a hyper here, I think you should use the same approach you used for 00:18:822 (3,4) - and 00:20:909 (2,3) -
00:26:778 - to 00:32:778 - Distancing in this section is very low, little movement is required to hit this part outside of the hyperdashes. I'd recommend buffing the distances used and possibly a higher SV too
00:58:756 (1) - It's not clear what this spinner is intended to be following here, it covers a few strong notes too. I think it would be better to remove this and map the sounds starting at 00:59:656 -
01:21:010 (1,1) - This sudden 1/8 jump is a bit unexpected, I'd stick with 1/4 for this like the other sliders
01:26:237 - The SV gets crazy high here, I get this is the hardest part of the song but I think the SV is too high. It suddenly requires a very dash heavy playstyle and makes antiflow movements like 01:34:888 (1,2,3,4) - particularly challenging. I'd suggest to nerf the SV in this ending section a bit as it's a very big difficulty spike as it is now, more so than the song calls for

[

Hyperion's Expert]

00:12:976 (5,6,7) - Emphasis should really be placed on 00:13:385 (6) - not 00:13:522 (7) - with a dash like at 00:11:067 (7,8) -
00:51:910 - Looks like something went wrong with the SV here, sliders are all extended a little until 00:54:774 -

[

Challenge]

01:37:222 (8,1) - This is really tricky to hit, it's quite tricky to time right after the rapid hypers just before it. Nerfing the distance a bit would be propa sik

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2017-12-31T00:42:50+00:00

@Sorcerer: Fixed emphasis and borked SV, also tidied up some hitsounding where my diff used/didn't use extended sliders and some 1/6

Xprt

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Sanyi

236 posts

Joined November 2015

Sanyi 2017-12-31T12:05:20+00:00

Sorcerer wrote:
[ Sanyi's Beginner]
00:01:904 (5) - Not the biggest fan of representing 00:02:504 - with a slider tail, it's quite a strong beat that doesn't get represented well with the little movement required on this slider. A bit more movement on this slider for the tail would help add a bit of emphasis to this sound. Same for 00:04:304 (4) - and 00:06:704 (4) - I added a bit more movement to the sliders, I want to keep the sliders since otherwise the intro would have only circles which is AAAAAAAAA and since the slidertails are the points where the horizontal movement gets increased again I think that the beats are not too bad emphasized
00:23:648 (2,3,4,1) - 00:25:735 (2,3,4,1) - These two patterns play very similarly and they're back to back so it feels a bit repetitive. Would be nice to add a bit more variety here probably through an additional direction change somewhere Changed it, hopefully it is better now
01:08:056 (1) - Don't think a spinner is a good fit here. I don't think it matches up with the sound well and it's quite short in duration, players may struggle to react in time before the spinner is pretty much over Exchanged the spinner with a single note at the start and a single note at the end of the spinner

Thanks for modding!

@Ascendance I added Sinnoh to the tags of my diff. Can you take a look at the timing thingy that Tom pointed out?

Sanyi's Beginner

osu file format v14

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Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,252 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Ascendance 2017-12-31T14:40:40+00:00

Ultimate Replyer Man

Sorcerer wrote:
Happy birthday

[ General]
Metadata: Sinnoh needs adding to tags across all difficulties except Basic Fixed
Hitsound Issues: drum-hitnormal seems rather quiet, might help to increase the volume of it or use an alternative sample, it can be quite hard to notice during gameplay Give me some time with this but it should be all set by the time it's ready
Other: Sanyi's Beginner and Ascennoh's Basic seem to be using different timing points than all the other diffs I have brain damage
[ Ascennoh's Basic]

[Collab kid 1]
00:26:257 (4,5) - This distance is a bit ambiguous and considering it leads in to a dash I'd nerf this to be a more comfortable walk Sure

[Collab kid 2]
01:09:146 - Sliders are broke here until about 01:15:556 -, they're all extended somewhat Gonna have to blame sinnoh on this one
[ ZiRoX's Difficult]
01:31:461 (6,1) - These quick little direction changes are challenging at this level so I'd reduce the distance between these two to add some leniency Sure, but not that much, it felt fine to me
01:39:333 (1) - Probably want to silence the hitsound at the end of this spinner Agree
[ Collab Hyper]

[Collab1]
00:14:476 (4,5,6,7) - This is a tricky pattern to hit at this level after the antiflow hyper from 00:14:340 (3) - , I'd suggest to really nerf this Didn't seem to be a huge issue to me but I'm okay with nerfing it a tiny bit if you're adamant about it.
[Collab 2]
01:06:856 (1,2,3,4) - This antiflow spam is a bit sudden, little bit of an unnecessary difficulty spike. I'd suggest to at least remove the antiflow between 01:06:856 (1,2) - Agree, changed stuff here
[Collab 3]
01:29:117 (5,6) - This little spacing increase is a bit awkward to play. Moving across 01:28:997 (4,5,6) - requires you to go a variety of speeds in the same direction, it would help to make the gap between these closer to 1.0x DS so it follows on from the slider nicely aesthetic
01:39:333 (1) - Same point as in the Platter about silencing the hitsound on this spinner same
[ Razor's Black Another]
00:13:385 (1) - Seems odd to end this slider so soon, I'd extend it another tick to replace 00:13:794 (2) - Agreed
00:22:996 (3,4) - Not hearing anything worth a hyper here, I think you should use the same approach you used for 00:18:822 (3,4) - and 00:20:909 (2,3) - Made it more consistent
00:26:778 - to 00:32:778 - Distancing in this section is very low, little movement is required to hit this part outside of the hyperdashes. I'd recommend buffing the distances used and possibly a higher SV too While I do think this is a bit low, it's something stylistic Razor does in a few maps to create contrast so I'll keep it so as not to touch anything important.
00:58:756 (1) - It's not clear what this spinner is intended to be following here, it covers a few strong notes too. I think it would be better to remove this and map the sounds starting at 00:59:656 - Reference from the standard version, it covers the extended sound and then some
01:21:010 (1,1) - This sudden 1/8 jump is a bit unexpected, I'd stick with 1/4 for this like the other sliders Agree
01:26:237 - The SV gets crazy high here, I get this is the hardest part of the song but I think the SV is too high. It suddenly requires a very dash heavy playstyle and makes antiflow movements like 01:34:888 (1,2,3,4) - particularly challenging. I'd suggest to nerf the SV in this ending section a bit as it's a very big difficulty spike as it is now, more so than the song calls for Dropped the SV by .5
[ Challenge]
01:37:222 (8,1) - This is really tricky to hit, it's quite tricky to time right after the rapid hypers just before it. Nerfing the distance a bit would be propa sik You got it kiddo

rew0825 wrote:
Hello I'm sercet santa :3

Challenge
00:11:749 (4,1) - Between this I think it's should dash? No big increase in pitch so I kept it here
00:19:474 (1,2) - I think it look suddenly. I suggest 00:19:604 (2) - change move to left look is better? Antiflow is preferred here for big shifts
00:27:153 (4,5) - Between this I think it's should dash? Sure, fixed
00:37:473 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - The distance between (1,2,3) of each section should gradually increase? It's a reference to the standard map but I made some adjustments
00:47:438 (1,2) - The distance is shorter than before note. I think player will feel confused. I suggest increase the distance. Sure, fixed
00:49:047 (4) - I suggest move it to overlap 00:48:774 (2) - I think it's better play. C-Curve is nice here imo
00:53:138 (4,5) - I suggest move it to x:280 for make 00:53:001 (2,3) - and 00:53:274 (4,5) - Hdash. I think it's better play. Did some different change instead
00:55:592 (4,5,6,7) - I suggest move to x:348 for make 00:55:456 (3,4) - and 00:56:001 (7,1) - Hdash. I think it's better play. Declined this one though, I kinda like my current pattern
00:57:365 (4) - I suggest move it to overlap 00:57:228 (3) - and then ctrl+h and move it to overlap 00:57:774 (7) - for make 00:57:365 (4,5) - Hdash. I think it's better play. Edge jump B)
01:36:666 (3) - Move it to left? for make 01:36:555 (2,3,4) - flow. Intense flow here, I prefer the higher speed jumps

Sanyi wrote:

~~Not so~~ Secret Santa
Challenge
Not sure if that is still a problem but you are changing the volume with green lines at 00:00:104 - and 00:09:704 - . Not too important and I'm too lazy to change LOL
00:11:885 (1) - Underemphasized imo, a hyper would fit here imo. I replied to this above but I don't think the pitch changes, it's not very important apart from a fairly weak downbeat so I didn't emphasize it.
00:28:153 (6,1) - and 00:31:153 (6,1) - are also not remarkable enough imo. I can understand that you didn't want to make them a hyper so what about starting of every second white tick with a slider to create more remarkable rhythm? Tried giving them something more "remarkable"
The whistle hitsounds in the part starting at 00:41:438 - are pretty distracting imo and doesn't support the mapping imo. Consider changing them. @Spec
Two unsnapped green lines at 01:18:552 - (should be 01:18:556 - ) and 01:18:961 - (should be 01:18:965 - ). Yeep
01:37:222 (8,1) - I would reduce the distance a bit, it is really hard to catch imo and missing here will be really frustrating. Fixed with Sorcerer's mod
Good luck on ranking! I want my first ranked diff uwu

Thank you all friends!

(BTW I didn't post Sanyi's salad mod because things changed in the diff when I changed it into a collab and I fixed things along the way from his mod)

Sorceress

332 posts

Joined September 2012

Sorceress 2018-01-03T19:19:15+00:00

Looked over the changes (now that they're actually applied) and adjusted HP spread slightly. Happy with how everything looks so here's a cute little bubble

Chat log (Benny- is not a Bully-)

2018-01-03 18:22 Ascendance: beep boop
2018-01-03 18:22 Sorcerer: boop bep
2018-01-03 18:23 Ascendance: yea seems im retarded and did not follow up the update
2018-01-03 18:23 Ascendance: good job team
2018-01-03 18:23 Sorcerer: :D
2018-01-03 18:24 Ascendance: ok updated
2018-01-03 18:24 Ascendance: now just looking for the replacement hitsound and i think we're all set
2018-01-03 18:25 Sorcerer: so hard to play the top diff in the editor with this input lag
2018-01-03 18:28 Ascendance: ok found one
2018-01-03 18:28 Ascendance: also yes
2018-01-03 18:29 Ascendance: i had to change to play mode and break the diff into several parts
2018-01-03 18:29 Ascendance: LOL
2018-01-03 18:29 Ascendance: re-download!
2018-01-03 18:30 Sorcerer: it's slightly corrupt for me, thinks razor's and sanyi's diff belong to another set so everytime I update in game it just deletes all the objects -.-
2018-01-03 18:30 Ascendance: i can copy the osu for you
2018-01-03 18:31 Ascendance: https://ascendance.s-ul.eu/1JX4WEv5 razor
2018-01-03 18:31 Sorcerer: it's alright, I just have to redl from the site each time
2018-01-03 18:31 Ascendance: https://ascendance.s-ul.eu/CKQtgXDG sanyi
2018-01-03 18:31 Ascendance: ah
2018-01-03 18:33 Ascendance: fixed a pixel dash in razor's diff while i was at it
2018-01-03 18:33 Sorcerer: 01:21:874 (2) - snap on this in razors is off
2018-01-03 18:33 Ascendance: yep
2018-01-03 18:33 Ascendance: that was included
2018-01-03 18:33 Sorcerer: sik
2018-01-03 18:35 Ascendance: lmk if there's anything else before i updato
2018-01-03 18:37 Sorcerer: don't worry only takes me about 3 hours to look over everything :)
2018-01-03 18:37 Ascendance: tyt B)
2018-01-03 18:47 Sorcerer: alright, hitsound stuff all seems sorted
2018-01-03 18:47 Sorcerer: and timing
2018-01-03 18:47 Sorcerer: and tags
2018-01-03 18:47 Ascendance: yeet
2018-01-03 18:47 Ascendance: updating
2018-01-03 18:48 Ascendance: boop
2018-01-03 18:48 Sorcerer: and the Salad isn't 8* anymore that's cool
2018-01-03 18:48 Ascendance: LOL
2018-01-03 18:50 Sorcerer: 01:08:874 (2,1) - in sanyi's cup
2018-01-03 18:50 Sorcerer: no movement between the two :/
2018-01-03 18:51 Ascendance: fix
2018-01-03 18:54 Sorcerer: can't get over the feeling I'm missing something init
2018-01-03 18:54 Ascendance: thats what the second bn is for xD
2018-01-03 18:54 Ascendance: benny is also being mean to me about how you bubbled her map instead of mine
2018-01-03 18:54 Ascendance: ?:(
2018-01-03 18:54 Ascendance: >:(
2018-01-03 18:55 Sorcerer: Bully-
2018-01-03 18:56 Ascendance: for real
2018-01-03 18:56 Ascendance: updated tho with the cup fix
2018-01-03 18:56 Sorcerer: nice one
2018-01-03 18:57 Sorcerer: nothing big but the HP spread is a bit odd
2018-01-03 18:58 Sorcerer: 6 > 5 > 7 > 6 > 7
2018-01-03 18:58 Ascendance: ill reduce on hyper
2018-01-03 18:58 Sorcerer: yeah
2018-01-03 18:58 Ascendance: gonna ask jbh about his hp right quick
2018-01-03 19:00 Ascendance: 7 it is
2018-01-03 19:00 Sorcerer: sick, 7 is for real pros
2018-01-03 19:00 Ascendance: ay you know it
2018-01-03 19:00 Ascendance: hr is a disability
2018-01-03 19:00 Ascendance: updated!
2018-01-03 19:01 Sorcerer: you didnt lower hyper?
2018-01-03 19:01 Ascendance: im rtetarde.d
2018-01-03 19:01 Sorcerer: sorry map is now nuked
2018-01-03 19:02 Sorcerer: oh shit shouldn't joke like that I'll get nuked
2018-01-03 19:02 Ascendance: the end goal for osu is to have a map nuked
2018-01-03 19:02 Ascendance: fix
2018-01-03 19:04 Sorcerer: ok ok I think we're good
2018-01-03 19:04 Sorcerer: I hope we're good
2018-01-03 19:04 Sorcerer: I pray we're good
2018-01-03 19:04 Ascendance: HECK yea
2018-01-03 19:05 Ascendance: me too
2018-01-03 19:05 Ascendance: for your sake and mine

Ascendance

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Ascendance 2018-01-03T19:28:40+00:00

Thanks a lot!

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

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JBHyperion 2018-01-03T19:42:48+00:00

(black) hole-y

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

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Xinnoh 2018-01-03T22:57:07+00:00

Modding sinnoh salads in 2018 lol

Xinnoh

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Xinnoh 2018-01-04T08:00:15+00:00

Metadata pop, still need to discuss timing
'DanceDanceRevolution SuperNOVA 2' is an original game product created by Konami Digital Entertainment Co., Ltd.
'DanceDanceRevolution SuperNOVA2' is not
http://www.konami.jp/bemani/ddr/na/am/sn2/index.html / http://www.konami.jp/bemani/ddr/jp/am/sn2/index.html

That said, would want to confirm someone if we use the Japanese game title or English.

http://www.konami.jp/bemani/ddr/jp/am/s ... p_new.html - Site lists min and max bpm at 50 and 220, but considering stuff is listed at 800bpm, it's not really reliable.
That said, most of these bpms should probably be double what they are, would probably check with the timing team because this is some weird stuff.

also add dance revolution to tags

Ascendance

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Ascendance 2018-01-04T08:05:20+00:00

accident on the metadata

absolutely 0 reason to change timing lol, i trust the timing of the previous mapset

thx for ur concerns

edit: talked with some timing people including raiden, there's no real reason to change the bpm since it works other than "the song is fast" so I'm not changing it for convenience's sake.

Bonsai

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Bonsai 2018-01-04T12:27:01+00:00

Ascendance wrote:
I'm not changing it for convenience's sake.

profound reasoning 👌

apart from that nonsense, there's a few other things to be changed:

00:48:638 - change measure to 6/4 here
01:09:146 - add timing section here with 6/4-measure
01:34:000 - ~~delet this~~ move this section to 01:33:769 -, the beat at 01:37:546 is just a dope syncopation, everything before and after that beat is still 'normal' (like at 00:22:604 and the beats afterwards are on-beat too)
this also makes the offset be not-too-late here lol
and something that might as well be irrelevant since the measure-length is already messed up by the low BPM but I'ma point it out anyways: 00:26:778 and 00:32:778 should probs be 3/4

PSA: Don't trust timings from mapsets that are more than five years old

Ascendance

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Ascendance 2018-01-04T19:05:49+00:00

PSA: trusting the last timing meant trusting the game it was originally intended for, so making baseless assumptions doesn't help anyone

all fixed for timing except for sinnoh's double bpm comments

added dance revolution to tags

Sorceress

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Sorceress 2018-01-04T23:47:50+00:00

Sinnoh wrote:
Metadata pop, still need to discuss timing
'DanceDanceRevolution SuperNOVA 2' is an original game product created by Konami Digital Entertainment Co., Ltd.
'DanceDanceRevolution SuperNOVA2' is not
http://www.konami.jp/bemani/ddr/na/am/sn2/index.html / http://www.konami.jp/bemani/ddr/jp/am/sn2/index.html

That said, would want to confirm someone if we use the Japanese game title or English.

http://www.konami.jp/bemani/ddr/jp/am/s ... p_new.html - Site lists min and max bpm at 50 and 220, but considering stuff is listed at 800bpm, it's not really reliable.
That said, most of these bpms should probably be double what they are, would probably check with the timing team because this is some weird stuff.

also add dance revolution to tags

An empty space has been added to the source between SuperNOVA and 2 to make it clear that the source is referring to "an original game product created by Konami Digital Entertainment Co., Ltd." and not some fictional title Ascendance delusionally dreamt up, "dance revolution" has also been added to tags

As for the game title, English looks fine considering the Japanese ver

still need to discuss timing

I was unaware there was any discussion ongoing regarding the timing on this beatmap, there doesn't appear to be anything in the thread prior to this. Either way, Bonsai's suggestions have been applied and current BPM has been given a thumbs up

If everything is satisfactory then I'm good to rebubble

Ascendance

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Ascendance 2018-01-05T00:01:23+00:00

For reference, the official score of "Pluto" can be found here http://textage.cc/score/0/pluto.html?1AC00 (with IIDX). As you can see, some BPMs were halved by the original map for the sake of convenience, and I don't think there's any giant reason to change them (Talked with Raiden about this as well who confirmed that for me).

Sorceress

332 posts

Joined September 2012

Sorceress 2018-01-05T00:32:41+00:00

Re-bubbled!

Dea ex machina

535 posts

Joined January 2014

Dea ex machina 2018-01-05T03:34:16+00:00

Ascendance wrote:
added dance revolution to tags

dance revolution is my favourite game

Ascendance

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Ascendance 2018-01-05T05:13:43+00:00

This was a useful post... stop BN abuse...

autofanboy

Elite Mapper / osu!trivium Champion

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Joined January 2011

autofanboy 2018-01-07T11:34:20+00:00

:b:luto is my dog

█ Optional to change --- █ Suggested to change --- █ Unrankable

[

General]

Update Prompt Bug

Please read t/682420 and fix the issue happened in Sanyi's Beginner and Razor's Black Another difficulties.

Tags
Add: BEAT EX (Genre of the song is SUPERNOVA2 BEAT EX)

Combo Colors
Where are the custom combo colors? Razor's Black Another and Challenge do not have the combo colors shown in the other difficulties. Also, note that the remaining difficulties do not have the same combo color settings. Perhaps it is a wise choice to keep them the same for consistency.

Overall Drain Time
Consider either removing the ending spinners in ZiRoX's Difficult and Collab Hyper, or adding ending spinners to the remaining difficulties. Doing this for the sake of having the same drain time in all difficulties.

[

Sanyi's Beginner]

Unused Inherited Sections

Remove them? For example, 00:22:539 - . Check the map thoroughly to find out similar issues.

Gameplay
00:04:304 (4,1,2) - I would like to see some variety here, maybe a different pattern from 00:00:104 (1,2,3) - and 00:01:904 (5,1,2) - ? It applies to 00:06:704 (4,1,2) - as well. One possible pattern is to change it into back-and-forth movement.
01:05:656 (1,1) - Please shorten the distance, it is way too far and is way too hard for any beginners.
01:08:874 (2,1) - ^ Ambiguous distance to be fair, players may have the sense to dash as I did when I testplayed the map.

[

Ascennoh's Basic]

Unused Inherited Sections

Remove them? For example, 00:22:539 - . Check the map thoroughly to find out similar issues.

Gameplay
00:00:554 (2,3) - The distance is a bit large and ambiguous here.
00:02:204 (5,1) - Reduce the distance? Quite strong, which can catch some beginners off guard to be honest.
00:08:504 (4,5) - Can be more aesthetic in the playfield, as it is quite weird to see a gap between the two sliders. Maybe change it to some short triplet stream?
00:17:340 (3,4) - Reduce the distance, very easy to miss (4).
00:26:257 (4,5,1) - Recommended to make it easier and more forgiving before the dash at (5,1). One solution is to move the tail of (4) to x position of (1), then move (5) to the right slightly.
00:36:951 (2,3,4,1) - Too many dashes going on at this part, and it may violate Ranking Criteria (check below). Perhaps you can remove the one at 00:37:473 (3,4) - to prevent risking.
Ranking Criteria wrote:
Hyperdashes of any kind are disallowed. This is to ensure a manageable step in difficulty for novice players. Difficulties may make use of basic (1/1, 1/2) regular dashing, although no type of dash can be used more than twice consecutively.
01:14:601 (3) - Incline this a bit to the horizontal or just change to a curve path for more movements.
01:15:556 (1,2) - Ambiguous distance, increase slightly to add a guaranteed dash. In addition, maybe make 01:16:510 (1,2,3) - a bit simpler (remove the dash), otherwise this part is too dense with dashes.
01:19:374 (3,1,2,3,4) - Same as 00:36:951 (2,3,4,1) - . A very close one to violating the rule because I can catch the first 2 circles by walking (edge case). But still, please reduce the distances and only place dashes on the most prominent beats. For me, I would move 01:20:465 (2) - closer to the right, possibly until 01:19:919 (1,2,3) - becomes walkable part, and then increase the distance of 01:21:010 (3,4) - so a dash is guaranteed.
01:33:991 (1) - What about putting the circle at 01:33:769 - instead and remove the original note? It seems better for emphasis.

[

ZiRoX's Difficult]

Unused Inherited Sections

Remove them? For example, 00:17:817 - . Check the map thoroughly to find out similar issues.

Gameplay
00:15:430 (2,3) - Ambiguous distance, you may try moving 00:15:840 (3,1,2,3,4) - altogether to the right so the mentioned part becomes a walk.
01:30:077 (1,2) - Maybe add a note at 01:30:307 - and the hyperdash to the slider? It seems to be inconsistent with 00:18:431 (1,2) - that has the same rhythm.
01:31:923 (1,2) - ^
01:33:769 (1,2) - ^
01:34:102 (2,3) - Reduce the distance? It feels quite big as a dash.

[

Collab Hyper]

Unused Inherited Sections

Remove them? For example, 00:22:539 - . Check the map thoroughly to find out similar issues.

Gameplay
00:14:476 (4,5,6,7) - Reduce the inner distances please, it is so uncomfortable especially at 00:14:340 (3,4,5) - because of the quick turning.
01:32:269 (2,3,4,5) - Horizontal streams like these can be worked more aesthetically, it feels strange in gameplay because the inner distance of (4) is different from the others. I think it is better to keep the same distance between each note in the stream.
01:35:880 (1,2,3) - ^

[

Reimu's Another]

Difficulty Setting

How about increasing the HP to 6, considering this is an Overdose-tier map?

Gameplay
00:53:956 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - It seems better to map it like 3-3 (hyphen representing the position of hyperdash) so the Whistle at (4) can be emphasized.
01:06:856 (1,2,3,4) - How about reducing the distances? A bit large to be fair, as I almost missed when I testplayed in the first go.

[

Razor's Black Another]

Gameplay

00:06:704 (6,1) - Try adding a dash here, the emphasis here can be done better like 00:01:904 (6,1) - and 00:04:304 (6,1) - .
00:15:567 (1) - Remove NC.
00:34:343 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Shouldn't this be mapped like 00:37:473 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - ? Feels a bit weird during testplay.
01:31:923 (1,2,3) - Pattern here should follow a 3-2 timeline where hyphen represents the position of hyperdash for consistency with 01:30:077 (1,2,3) - and also the ones in the first climax part.
01:37:102 (2,1) - If it is possible, try to add a hyperdash between them, otherwise shorten it.

[

Hyperion's Expert]

Gameplay

01:23:862 (3,4,5) - Reduce the distances between (3,4) and (4,5) by moving (4) closer slightly, I think 2 grid would be fairly enough. It is because most players may not be ready, so this can be made a bit easier, while the later bursting dash movements like 01:29:117 (1,2,3,4) - can be kept.
01:29:117 (1,2,3,4) - This anti-flow is really unpleasant from player's perspective. How about adding hyperdash at 01:35:879 (4,5) - by moving (3) to the left of the playfield, while keeping the same distance for 01:36:213 (5,1) - ?

[

Challenge]

Gameplay

00:27:403 (6,1,2) - Reduce the distances by moving (1) closer, I find myself keep missing here.
00:28:153 (6,1) - ^
00:28:903 (6,1) - ^
00:31:903 (6,1) - ^ Basically all the transitions have the same problem.
00:37:864 (1,2,3) - ~~yea not again~~ Reduce the distances slightly please, with the hyperdash anti-flow jump, it is even harder to catch here.
01:30:077 (1,2,3) - How about having the same distances, mathematically, distance of (1,2) = distance of (2,3)?
01:31:923 (1,2,3) - ^
01:36:324 (6,1,2) - Strange to have (6,1)'s distance larger than that of (1,2). Maybe you can change it by moving 01:36:435 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - to the left to fix it without destroying the later-on patterning.
See if you can decrease the star rating to 6.66* for better memes

Poke me for follow-up.

Ascendance

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Topic Starter

Ascendance 2018-01-07T20:03:40+00:00

alienflybot wrote:
:b:luto is my dog

█ Optional to change --- █ Suggested to change --- █ Unrankable

[ General]

Update Prompt Bug
Please read t/682420 and fix the issue happened in Sanyi's Beginner and Razor's Black Another difficulties. Fix after

Tags
Add: BEAT EX (Genre of the song is SUPERNOVA2 BEAT EX) Will apply when I get all the replies

Combo Colors
Where are the custom combo colors? Razor's Black Another and Challenge do not have the combo colors shown in the other difficulties. Also, note that the remaining difficulties do not have the same combo color settings. Perhaps it is a wise choice to keep them the same for consistency. Will fix everyone's after

Overall Drain Time
Consider either removing the ending spinners in ZiRoX's Difficult and Collab Hyper, or adding ending spinners to the remaining difficulties. Doing this for the sake of having the same drain time in all difficulties. Both of these were ZiRoX's diffs or his parts in the collab so it's up to him whether he wants to keep them or not

[ Ascennoh's Basic]

Unused Inherited Sections
Remove them? For example, 00:22:539 - . Check the map thoroughly to find out similar issues.

Gameplay
00:00:554 (2,3) - The distance is a bit large and ambiguous here. reduced
00:02:204 (5,1) - Reduce the distance? Quite strong, which can catch some beginners off guard to be honest. reduced
00:08:504 (4,5) - Can be more aesthetic in the playfield, as it is quite weird to see a gap between the two sliders. Maybe change it to some short triplet stream? aes
00:17:340 (3,4) - Reduce the distance, very easy to miss (4). sure
00:26:257 (4,5,1) - Recommended to make it easier and more forgiving before the dash at (5,1). One solution is to move the tail of (4) to x position of (1), then move (5) to the right slightly. did something different
00:36:951 (2,3,4,1) - Too many dashes going on at this part, and it may violate Ranking Criteria (check below). Perhaps you can remove the one at 00:37:473 (3,4) - to prevent risking. its technically allowed since sliders dont make them consecutive but i removed the one that you mentioned to be safe.
Ranking Criteria wrote:
Hyperdashes of any kind are disallowed. This is to ensure a manageable step in difficulty for novice players. Difficulties may make use of basic (1/1, 1/2) regular dashing, although no type of dash can be used more than twice consecutively.

[ Collab Hyper]

Unused Inherited Sections
Remove them? For example, 00:22:539 - . Check the map thoroughly to find out similar issues.

Gameplay
00:14:476 (4,5,6,7) - Reduce the inner distances please, it is so uncomfortable especially at 00:14:340 (3,4,5) - because of the quick turning. fixed, i think

[ Challenge]

Gameplay
00:27:403 (6,1,2) - Reduce the distances by moving (1) closer, I find myself keep missing here.
00:28:153 (6,1) - ^
00:28:903 (6,1) - ^
00:31:903 (6,1) - ^ Basically all the transitions have the same problem. They're all intended to be edge dash-y. I like the idea of making the section harder to catch while not inherently making everything a hyperdash. Hopefully I can keep it
00:37:864 (1,2,3) - ~~yea not again~~ Reduce the distances slightly please, with the hyperdash anti-flow jump, it is even harder to catch here. I did reduce this one a tiny bit though, but this part is meant to be a reference to the convert.
01:30:077 (1,2,3) - How about having the same distances, mathematically, distance of (1,2) = distance of (2,3)? Sure
01:31:923 (1,2,3) - ^ Fixed
01:36:324 (6,1,2) - Strange to have (6,1)'s distance larger than that of (1,2). Maybe you can change it by moving 01:36:435 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - to the left to fix it without destroying the later-on patterning. Sure, I tried here
See if you can decrease the star rating to 6.66* for better memes The memes are successful :^)

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JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2018-01-07T20:16:28+00:00

alienflybot wrote:
[ Hyperion's Expert]

Gameplay
01:23:862 (3,4,5) - Reduce the distances between (3,4) and (4,5) by moving (4) closer slightly, I think 2 grid would be fairly enough. It is because most players may not be ready, so this can be made a bit easier, while the later bursting dash movements like 01:29:117 (1,2,3,4) - can be kept. Reduced
01:29:117 (1,2,3,4) - This anti-flow is really unpleasant from player's perspective. Reduced this a bit more, but I don't think it's that bad honestly, the music definitely supports the direction changes How about adding hyperdash at 01:35:879 (4,5) - by moving (3) to the left of the playfield, while keeping the same distance for 01:36:213 (5,1) - ? Not sure how this is relevant though? (5) isn't a strong sound so I see no reason to add a hyper here. Did you mean to put something else?

Poke me if you want to discuss the response in blue. Otherwise code below.

Xprt

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 29
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 2
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.3
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2

[Metadata]
Title:Pluto
TitleUnicode:Pluto
Artist:Black Hole
ArtistUnicode:Black∞Hole
Creator:Ascendance
Version:Hyperion's Expert
Source:DanceDanceRevolution SuperNOVA 2
Tags:beatmania IIDX 15 DJ TROOPERS CS DDR dance revolution pack 3 NM SEQUENCE UNLIMITED Hareimu JBHyperion JBH ZiRoX Razor Sharp Arthas Sanyi Sinnoh
BeatmapID:1441260
BeatmapSetID:680437

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:7
CircleSize:5
OverallDifficulty:9.4
ApproachRate:9.4
SliderMultiplier:1.8
SliderTickRate:4

[Events]
//Background and Video events
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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

[TimingPoints]
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26778,500,3,1,1,70,1,0
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28528,-100,6,1,1,70,0,0
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Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,252 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Ascendance 2018-01-07T22:28:33+00:00

Replying for Razor since I don't know if he's back yet (or if he wants me to stop replying for him), if he is back and wants to apply things on his own, I'll revert the changes made

alienflybot wrote:
:b:luto is my dog

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[ Razor's Black Another]

Gameplay
00:06:704 (6,1) - Try adding a dash here, the emphasis here can be done better like 00:01:904 (6,1) - and 00:04:304 (6,1) - . Fixed
00:15:567 (1) - Remove NC. Removed
00:34:343 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Shouldn't this be mapped like 00:37:473 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - ? Feels a bit weird during testplay. Fixed
01:31:923 (1,2,3) - Pattern here should follow a 3-2 timeline where hyphen represents the position of hyperdash for consistency with 01:30:077 (1,2,3) - and also the ones in the first climax part. Did it
01:37:102 (2,1) - If it is possible, try to add a hyperdash between them, otherwise shorten it. Reduced!

Poke me for follow-up.

Hareimu

624 posts

Joined March 2014

Hareimu 2018-01-08T00:43:58+00:00

alienflybot wrote:
:b:luto is my dog

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[ Reimu's Another]

Difficulty Setting
How about increasing the HP to 6, considering this is an Overdose-tier map? sure

Gameplay
00:53:956 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - It seems better to map it like 3-3 (hyphen representing the position of hyperdash) so the Whistle at (4) can be emphasized. I don't even know why (4) had a whistle in the first place. I'll leave it like it is for now, but removed the whistle.
01:06:856 (1,2,3,4) - How about reducing the distances? A bit large to be fair, as I almost missed when I testplayed in the first go. done

rehitsounded all the whistles and finishes myself since I don't really like how the hitsounding was done on all other diffs. Ascendance, please do not copy other diff's hitsounds into mine, thanks.

reimu's another

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