Stefan wrote:
[Muzukashii]
SV is broken, please fix the .osu file via notepad.
00:40:090 (166,167,168,169,170) - I don't think this will work out well. Move 00:40:566 (169) - to 00:40:280 - because the 1/3 fourlet is more consistent to follow than these 1/3 doublets. Just do this over and over again.
02:09:661 (562) - I can imagine that k kkk k is already tiring to play, you could nerf that by having d on (562) so to have k k d d k ...
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Topic Starter
Stefan's Revised Mod
Stefan wrote:
[Oni]
00:00:090 - 00:08:947 - something that looks really silly is the fact that the mentioned section is much denser than 00:09:232 - 00:18:375 - by its combo chains although the first section is calmer and should be kept like that. I would have expected to have kat notes on 00:09:661 - or 00:11:947 - . and pattern such as 00:10:090 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - rather connected than split up, instead for 00:00:804 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - where 00:01:090 (7) - should be gone. ok
00:23:232 - just wondering: What differs 00:23:090 (82,83) - from 00:24:232 (88,89,90) - , sound-wise? You could change the doublet to dk because the 2nd hit is definitely to emphasize, or just keep it consistent as triplet. ok
01:31:518 - since the song repeats here and you have pretty much kept the same pattern, you can take over the points above. I however missed a bit you didn't buff the 2nd kiai at least. imo you ignored some potential the song has at the kiai times, and it would feel a bit fresher if the kiai sections were slightly different from each other. It's not a must have but still recommened. I already did? ;/
[Futsuu]
I think something went terribly wrong with the metadata stats..? https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/zfENUo51.png
00:00:090 - 00:08:947 - oh man.. we gotta change this part. It's really dull and.. not that good at all to have every 2/1 beat a note, for nearly nine seconds. I may suggest stuff later but you could try to take that part from the muzukashii difficulty and make a nerfed version of it. did kinda
00:31:661 (15) - I find the 1/2 doublet doesn't work so well with the music here, the sound at 00:31:804 - is imo very significant and could be mapped as kat instead. I think no because I base most of my sounds off of drums
00:40:804 (44) - ^, just repeat that for similar cases. Not going to point them all out.
01:19:803 (42) - could be changed to kat, 01:19:517 (41,42) - share some similarities in their emphasis imo. again no bc drum
01:31:518 - Why haven't you mapped 00:00:090 - like this? this is a thousand times better and actually provides acceptable emphasis. okie
[Kantan]
00:03:518 - Why you're not just going to put a note here, like you have put at 00:08:090 - ? oops
01:34:947 - ^
I may take a closer look at Kantan and Futsuu next time since I got told they are a bit unsafe for now. But I could think about nominating the map. Might also notify incandescence/ozzy about that and ask if they plan to recheck.
[futsuu]
00:31:232 (13,14,15) - in the futsuu try ddk k 1/2 instead of d kd, matches the music more directly
01:35:232 (13,14) - add 1/2 ddk here (if i missed it in the intro or before this in general, it applies there to. and after here as well)
i'm confused as to how you were able to map the futsuu's last kiai more exciting than the first but the oni is still boring
in regards to the oni, i see that you literally added one triplet to the ostinato (repeated rhythm/theme) of the kiai. it's still boring though, and this is because a) you placed the triplet on the downbeat of the 3rd beat of the measure and b) it's the only change you made in this kiai. i gave you a basic template of improv to use in this kiai that uses 5 plets, something that is rarely used in this difficulty, and simple triplets. the kiai is missing any sort of variation, any sort of excitement, and again, anything harder than triplets. i still can't say i'm ready to nominate this yet.
kantan and muzu are fine.
00:31:232 (13,14,15) - in the futsuu try ddk k 1/2 instead of d kd, matches the music more directly
01:35:232 (13,14) - add 1/2 ddk here (if i missed it in the intro or before this in general, it applies there to. and after here as well)
i'm confused as to how you were able to map the futsuu's last kiai more exciting than the first but the oni is still boring
in regards to the oni, i see that you literally added one triplet to the ostinato (repeated rhythm/theme) of the kiai. it's still boring though, and this is because a) you placed the triplet on the downbeat of the 3rd beat of the measure and b) it's the only change you made in this kiai. i gave you a basic template of improv to use in this kiai that uses 5 plets, something that is rarely used in this difficulty, and simple triplets. the kiai is missing any sort of variation, any sort of excitement, and again, anything harder than triplets. i still can't say i'm ready to nominate this yet.
kantan and muzu are fine.
Topic Starter
fixed everything on futsuuincandescence wrote:
[futsuu]
00:31:232 (13,14,15) - in the futsuu try ddk k 1/2 instead of d kd, matches the music more directly
01:35:232 (13,14) - add 1/2 ddk here (if i missed it in the intro or before this in general, it applies there to. and after here as well)
i'm confused as to how you were able to map the futsuu's last kiai more exciting than the first but the oni is still boring
in regards to the oni, i see that you literally added one triplet to the ostinato (repeated rhythm/theme) of the kiai. it's still boring though, and this is because a) you placed the triplet on the downbeat of the 3rd beat of the measure and b) it's the only change you made in this kiai. i gave you a basic template of improv to use in this kiai that uses 5 plets, something that is rarely used in this difficulty, and simple triplets. the kiai is missing any sort of variation, any sort of excitement, and again, anything harder than triplets. i still can't say i'm ready to nominate this yet.
kantan and muzu are fine.
tried some oni stuff
we'll talk
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I actually am fine with the kiais of Oni since Muzukashii is designed by its density. however, if you ask for a small increase or whatever, I will give some suggestions related to the difficulty to buff/make interesting/whatever
00:28:732 - add don note for kdk
00:31:018 - / 00:31:161 - same here or do kdd this time.
00:33:304 - ^
00:35:018 - ^
00:46:018 - ^ for ddk
01:04:447 - ^
01:05:447 - ^
01:05:947 (13,14,15,16) - could be changed to kdkdk, sounds more consistent.
01:06:732 - ^
01:07:590 - / 01:07:732 - one of them
didn't mention similar parts, please try to apply to them on your own if you agree. Will talk once more with taikocracy and I probably will nominate it since I don't see the issues mentioned in his last post.
00:28:732 - add don note for kdk
00:31:018 - / 00:31:161 - same here or do kdd this time.
00:33:304 - ^
00:35:018 - ^
00:46:018 - ^ for ddk
01:04:447 - ^
01:05:447 - ^
01:05:947 (13,14,15,16) - could be changed to kdkdk, sounds more consistent.
01:06:732 - ^
01:07:590 - / 01:07:732 - one of them
didn't mention similar parts, please try to apply to them on your own if you agree. Will talk once more with taikocracy and I probably will nominate it since I don't see the issues mentioned in his last post.
Topic Starter
uhhhh I basically remapped the parts because alex helped me out but I think I accepted most of your points...? ^^;Stefan wrote:
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I actually am fine with the kiais of Oni since Muzukashii is designed by its density. however, if you ask for a small increase or whatever, I will give some suggestions related to the difficulty to buff/make interesting/whatever
00:28:732 - add don note for kdk
00:31:018 - / 00:31:161 - same here or do kdd this time.
00:33:304 - ^
00:35:018 - ^
00:46:018 - ^ for ddk
01:04:447 - ^
01:05:447 - ^
01:05:947 (13,14,15,16) - could be changed to kdkdk, sounds more consistent.
01:06:732 - ^
01:07:590 - / 01:07:732 - one of them
didn't mention similar parts, please try to apply to them on your own if you agree. Will talk once more with taikocracy and I probably will nominate it since I don't see the issues mentioned in his last post.
good night
interested in qualifying.
I am away for the next three days, but I will gladly check it when I come back!
I am away for the next three days, but I will gladly check it when I come back!
good night
Hello.
I've noticed a bit of inconsistency with the finisher use in the Oni diff.
In the 00:18:375 - 00:27:518 - section, you've used finishers at 00:20:661 - 00:22:947 - and 00:24:090 - , yet for the near identical section at 01:49:804 - 01:58:947 - you haven't used finishers for the corresponding notes at 01:52:090 - 01:54:375 - and 01:55:518 -. I'm assuming this was an oversight and not intentional.
It's also worth mentioning that the same sections in your Kantan are very different - the latter has many more notes omitted, despite the song being more or less identical, which I'd also like to see fixed. Variation is okay (like you've done in the Futsuu), but this is too too much, and I don't think that it's what you were going for here anyway.
I've noticed a bit of inconsistency with the finisher use in the Oni diff.
In the 00:18:375 - 00:27:518 - section, you've used finishers at 00:20:661 - 00:22:947 - and 00:24:090 - , yet for the near identical section at 01:49:804 - 01:58:947 - you haven't used finishers for the corresponding notes at 01:52:090 - 01:54:375 - and 01:55:518 -. I'm assuming this was an oversight and not intentional.
It's also worth mentioning that the same sections in your Kantan are very different - the latter has many more notes omitted, despite the song being more or less identical, which I'd also like to see fixed. Variation is okay (like you've done in the Futsuu), but this is too too much, and I don't think that it's what you were going for here anyway.
Aloda wrote:
Hello.
I've noticed a bit of inconsistency with the finisher use in the Oni diff.
In the 00:18:375 - 00:27:518 - section, you've used finishers at 00:20:661 - 00:22:947 - and 00:24:090 - , yet for the near identical section at 01:49:804 - 01:58:947 - you haven't used finishers for the corresponding notes at 01:52:090 - 01:54:375 - and 01:55:518 -. I'm assuming this was an oversight and not intentional.
It's also worth mentioning that the same sections in your Kantan are very different - the latter has many more notes omitted, despite the song being more or less identical, which I'd also like to see fixed. Variation is okay (like you've done in the Futsuu), but this is too too much, and I don't think that it's what you were going for here anyway.
i noticed the same thing but decided that decision was intentional to emphasize/create a kind of progression. :thinking:
Disqualified as the issues raised by Aloda are valid. The two mentioned sessions are nearly identical and the intensity of music is very similar, so missing finish induces inconsistency and impairs the overall map structure.
The sudden density drop from 01:49:804 to 01:58:947 - in Kantan also worsens the spread as Futsuu, Muzukashii and Oni do not possess in that session. Additional modding as follows.
The sudden density drop from 01:49:804 to 01:58:947 - in Kantan also worsens the spread as Futsuu, Muzukashii and Oni do not possess in that session. Additional modding as follows.
- [kantan]
Consider using HP7 for better difficulty progression? 8 is a bit harsh due to song length.
- 01:50:947 - add d and 01:51:518 - 01:53:232 - 01:53:804 - add k? As stated above, the additions could not only maintain pattern consistency but also improve the spread with higher difficulties.
- 02:44:089 (13) - you may add finish here as you did at 01:12:661 (13) - for the significant drum.
- [futsuu]
- 00:31:375 (14) - consider removing this note for a better spread with Muzukashii? In addition, this would help emphasize the note density increase featured in the second kiai.
- 02:44:089 (26,27) - same as Kantan
- [ayyri's muzukashii]
- 00:21:804 (88,89,90,91,92) - maybe try k d kkk to enhance pattern variety? The background tone is a bit different compared to 00:19:518 (81,82,83,84,85) -
- 01:53:232 (489,490,491,492,493) - same as ^
- [oni]
- 01:52:090 (72) - as mentioned above, you should add finish here for proper emphasis of the prominent sound and guaranteeing consistency.
- 01:54:375 (85,93) - same as ^
- 03:02:232 (50) - maybe k as you did at 00:08:518 (50) - for the higher-pitched sound?
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:
Disqualified as the issues raised by Aloda are valid. The two mentioned sessions are nearly identical and the intensity of music is very similar, so missing finish induces inconsistency and impairs the overall map structure.
The sudden density drop from 01:49:804 to 01:58:947 - in Kantan also worsens the spread as Futsuu, Muzukashii and Oni do not possess in that session. Additional modding as follows.
- [kantan]
Consider using HP7 for better difficulty progression? 8 is a bit harsh due to song length.
- 01:50:947 - add d and 01:51:518 - 01:53:232 - 01:53:804 - add k? As stated above, the additions could not only maintain pattern consistency but also improve the spread with higher difficulties.
- 02:44:089 (13) - you may add finish here as you did at 01:12:661 (13) - for the significant drum.
- [futsuu]
- 00:31:375 (14) - consider removing this note for a better spread with Muzukashii? In addition, this would help emphasize the note density increase featured in the second kiai.
- 02:44:089 (26,27) - same as Kantan
- [ayyri's muzukashii]
- 00:21:804 (88,89,90,91,92) - maybe try k d kkk to enhance pattern variety? The background tone is a bit different compared to 00:19:518 (81,82,83,84,85) -
- 01:53:232 (489,490,491,492,493) - same as ^
- [oni]
- 01:52:090 (72) - as mentioned above, you should add finish here for proper emphasis of the prominent sound and guaranteeing consistency.
- 01:54:375 (85,93) - same as ^
- 03:02:232 (50) - maybe k as you did at 00:08:518 (50) - for the higher-pitched sound?
You may call me back after that.
lmao someone finally DQ’d. I was trying to contact QATs to make it a self DQ but nobody answered 🤷🏽♂️
Why didn't you call me?
Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:
- [ayyri's muzukashii]
- 00:21:804 (88,89,90,91,92) - maybe try k d kkk to enhance pattern variety? The background tone is a bit different compared to 00:19:518 (81,82,83,84,85) - i kinda liked having them consistent, but i don't really mind either way. due to the fact that i didn't copy and paste any of the difficulty, i don't mind having even more variety.
- 01:53:232 (489,490,491,492,493) - same as ^ here too.
revive i still think about you and angelic jelly
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Topic Starter
BNs can't DQ mapsGabe wrote:
Why didn't you call me?
noeiri- wrote:
revive i still think about you and angelic jellyNardoxyribonucleic wrote:
- [ayyri's muzukashii]
- 00:21:804 (88,89,90,91,92) - maybe try k d kkk to enhance pattern variety? The background tone is a bit different compared to 00:19:518 (81,82,83,84,85) - i kinda liked having them consistent, but i don't really mind either way. due to the fact that i didn't copy and paste any of the difficulty, i don't mind having even more variety.
- 01:53:232 (489,490,491,492,493) - same as ^ here too.
Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:
Disqualified as the issues raised by Aloda are valid. The two mentioned sessions are nearly identical and the intensity of music is very similar, so missing finish induces inconsistency and impairs the overall map structure.
The sudden density drop from 01:49:804 to 01:58:947 - in Kantan also worsens the spread as Futsuu, Muzukashii and Oni do not possess in that session. Additional modding as follows.
- [kantan]
Consider using HP7 for better difficulty progression? 8 is a bit harsh due to song length.
- 01:50:947 - add d and 01:51:518 - 01:53:232 - 01:53:804 - add k? As stated above, the additions could not only maintain pattern consistency but also improve the spread with higher difficulties. gonna not do these bc I already fixed before DQ
- 02:44:089 (13) - you may add finish here as you did at 01:12:661 (13) - for the significant drum. uh... do you mean 02:44:660 (28) - ...? bc that's the one I did
- [futsuu]
- 00:31:375 (14) - consider removing this note for a better spread with Muzukashii? In addition, this would help emphasize the note density increase featured in the second kiai. yes
- 02:44:089 (26,27) - same as Kantan lol
- [oni]
You may call me back after that.
- 01:52:090 (72) - as mentioned above, you should add finish here for proper emphasis of the prominent sound and guaranteeing consistency.
- 01:54:375 (85,93) - same as ^ already did it
- 03:02:232 (50) - maybe k as you did at 00:08:518 (50) - for the higher-pitched sound? ok
btw gabe is a part of the bng/qat and gmt.
oni
this could be a somewhat subjective suggestion but how about inverting 01:30:661 (25,26,27,28,29,30) so that 25,26 are dons and 27,28,29,30 are kats?
Looking at the progression of 01:23:804 (4,5,6,7) 01:26:090 (11,12,13,14) 01:28:375 (18,19,20,21) it does look like turning 01:30:661 (25,26) into dons would fit the structure you're going for a lot more.
Also by having 01:31:375 (30) as a kat it would contrast with 01:31:518 (1) , which would be nice if you want to emphasise the transition between sections a lot more
this could be a somewhat subjective suggestion but how about inverting 01:30:661 (25,26,27,28,29,30) so that 25,26 are dons and 27,28,29,30 are kats?
Looking at the progression of 01:23:804 (4,5,6,7) 01:26:090 (11,12,13,14) 01:28:375 (18,19,20,21) it does look like turning 01:30:661 (25,26) into dons would fit the structure you're going for a lot more.
Also by having 01:31:375 (30) as a kat it would contrast with 01:31:518 (1) , which would be nice if you want to emphasise the transition between sections a lot more
Topic Starter
isn't that obvious by his forums tags/colours :thinking:eiri- wrote:
btw gabe is a part of the bng/qat and gmt.
Stingy wrote:
Gabe wrote:
Why didn't you call me?
BNs can't DQ maps
that's why i said that.
Topic Starter
oh owo okieeiri- wrote:
that's why i said that.Stingy wrote:
BNs can't DQ maps
will update soon
simple forum research will reveal that gabe can dq maps even tho he is technically still just a taiko bn. that's part of the qats duties.
Topic Starter
Ah okayincandescence wrote:
simple forum research will reveal that gabe can dq maps even tho he is technically still just a taiko bn. that's part of the qats duties.
I thought it had to be a taiko QAT. My bad!
Topic Starter
Kisses wrote:
oni
this could be a somewhat subjective suggestion but how about inverting 01:30:661 (25,26,27,28,29,30) so that 25,26 are dons and 27,28,29,30 are kats?
Looking at the progression of 01:23:804 (4,5,6,7) 01:26:090 (11,12,13,14) 01:28:375 (18,19,20,21) it does look like turning 01:30:661 (25,26) into dons would fit the structure you're going for a lot more.
Also by having 01:31:375 (30) as a kat it would contrast with 01:31:518 (1) , which would be nice if you want to emphasise the transition between sections a lot more I like the suggestion but it ruins my current pattern with the colour changes ;w;
A quick recheck here. (no kd)
- [kantan]
- 02:44:089 (13,14) - it would be better to swap these to D d as the first percussion is significantly louder. This would ensure consistency with the finish placement at 01:12:661 (13,14) -
- [futsuu]
- 02:44:089 (26,27,28) - similar to Kantan, K K d fits well with the intensity difference like you did at 01:12:661 (24,25,26) -
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:
A quick recheck here. (no kd)
- [kantan]
- 02:44:089 (13,14) - it would be better to swap these to D d as the first percussion is significantly louder. This would ensure consistency with the finish placement at 01:12:661 (13,14) -
- [futsuu]
- 02:44:089 (26,27,28) - similar to Kantan, K K d fits well with the intensity difference like you did at 01:12:661 (24,25,26) -
owo I’m at the dentist I’ll be back soon
Rechecked and confirmed that inconsistency and spread issues have been addressed.
Rebubbled~
Rebubbled~
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:
Rechecked and confirmed that inconsistency and spread issues have been addressed.
Rebubbled~
ùwú that gif is cute
Thanks!
Qualified ~ 
Disculpa pero porque solo en Taiko:( no se jugar mucho ese modo me sale mejor en OSU MANIA:(, aun asi es muy buena el map.