2017-10-11 23:41 -GN: ACTION is listening to Jakarta Funk Brothers - INSOMNIA
2017-10-11 23:41 -GN: alright let's go
2017-10-11 23:43 jesse1412: oo
2017-10-11 23:43 jesse1412: I see one slider I need to delete
2017-10-11 23:43 -GN: okay this is gonna take some getting used to
2017-10-11 23:45 jesse1412: yeah I'd give it 2 or 3 tries before we start fixing
2017-10-11 23:45 -GN: notelock please
2017-10-11 23:46 jesse1412: it was od9
2017-10-11 23:46 jesse1412: but I got bad acc so I made it od8
2017-10-11 23:46 jesse1412: I still got bad acc :thinking:
2017-10-11 23:46 -GN: yeah it's the slider thing
2017-10-11 23:48 jesse1412: I actually spotted another part that might be impossible during that play
2017-10-11 23:48 jesse1412: basically everything ming did had no regard for making the map passable
2017-10-11 23:48 jesse1412: I might have to make sure the player has full hp before the stop slider spam part too
2017-10-11 23:49 jesse1412: I think you can pass from full hp there, but you need to hit a few ends
2017-10-11 23:49 jesse1412: which is pretty much exactly what I wanted it to be
2017-10-11 23:49 -GN: sounds good
2017-10-11 23:49 jesse1412: editor bug? lul
2017-10-11 23:49 -GN: no, i made a new diff
2017-10-11 23:49 jesse1412: oh you made a diffi
2017-10-11 23:49 jesse1412: yeah fiars
2017-10-11 23:49 jesse1412: fairs*
2017-10-11 23:49 -GN: need to check some notelock stuff
2017-10-11 23:51 jesse1412: I don't mind changing the od
2017-10-11 23:51 jesse1412: I found it harder on od9 but eh I'm not the one playing this shit lmao
2017-10-11 23:51 -GN: i think od8 is fine
2017-10-11 23:51 -GN: there's just something fucky about 2b notelocking on sliders
2017-10-11 23:51 -GN: you basically have to hit late on certain parts or you'll just break everything and die
2017-10-11 23:52 jesse1412: yeah I don't even know if od changes same tick note interactions either
2017-10-11 23:53 -GN: alright testing the full thing again
2017-10-11 23:55 jesse1412: woah hoyl
2017-10-11 23:55 jesse1412: you fced the start
2017-10-11 23:55 jesse1412: I thought that was impossible
2017-10-11 23:56 jesse1412: looks more passable the more you play
2017-10-11 23:56 -GN: yeah it probably is
2017-10-11 23:56 jesse1412: ming's parts still shit in your mouth though, which makes sense
2017-10-11 23:56 jesse1412: 01:53:892 (1,2) -
2017-10-11 23:56 -GN: 01:39:432 (1,2,1,2) - this is really stupid
2017-10-11 23:56 jesse1412: deleting one of these
2017-10-11 23:57 -GN:  ok i didn't notice those were the same tick
2017-10-11 23:57 jesse1412: it's probazbly he most unintuitive thing in the map lmao
2017-10-11 23:57 jesse1412: probazbly what the fuck
2017-10-11 23:57 jesse1412: how did I type that
2017-10-11 23:57 -GN: maybe you should just space them out a bit more and make them look like those earlier same tick stuff
2017-10-11 23:58 jesse1412: they were like the earlier stuff
2017-10-11 23:58 jesse1412: but after playing the map they fucked up and went like that
2017-10-11 23:59 -GN: ok looks like notelock fucks you over on one of those sliders you mentioned anyway
2017-10-11 23:59 jesse1412: 101:53:584 (1,1) -
2017-10-11 23:59 jesse1412: is this okay?
2017-10-11 23:59 jesse1412: o
2017-10-11 23:59 jesse1412: I'll fix both then
2017-10-11 23:59 -GN: actually
2017-10-11 23:59 -GN: i didn't see those being the same tick either
2017-10-11 23:59 -GN: can't read two sliders at once smh
2017-10-12 00:00 jesse1412: since when were you that bad xdddd
2017-10-12 00:00 -GN: alright delete one of those pairs
2017-10-12 00:00 -GN: because even auto fucks those up
2017-10-12 00:00 jesse1412: I can delete 2
2017-10-12 00:00 -GN: err
2017-10-12 00:00 jesse1412: both of them
2017-10-12 00:00 jesse1412: and do something else
2017-10-12 00:00 -GN: delete one slider from both pairs
2017-10-12 00:00 -GN: or do something else yeah
2017-10-12 00:01 jesse1412: something else would be better
2017-10-12 00:01 jesse1412: gotta figure out what
2017-10-12 00:01 jesse1412: 01:48:969 (1,2,3,4,1) -
2017-10-12 00:01 jesse1412: what about this total clusterfuck
2017-10-12 00:01 -GN: i can't hit those for shit
2017-10-12 00:02 -GN: but i think that's the fault of the pattern before it
2017-10-12 00:02 jesse1412: yeah true
2017-10-12 00:02 jesse1412: one horrible pattern into another
2017-10-12 00:02 -GN: because 01:47:123 (1,2,3,4) - notelocks every time
2017-10-12 00:02 -GN: and i can't read the sliders after those
2017-10-12 00:03 jesse1412: I can change that section too if it locks
2017-10-12 00:03 -GN: i don't think the back and forth stuff is too bad really
2017-10-12 00:03 -GN: it's just that i can't start them properly because the previous pattern is too hard
2017-10-12 00:04 -GN: 01:48:969 (1,2,3,4,1) - should be fine
2017-10-12 00:04 jesse1412: alright cool
2017-10-12 00:04 -GN: because i hit it more than the ones right before it
2017-10-12 00:04 jesse1412: cuz they look pretty sick
2017-10-12 00:05 jesse1412: 01:10:355 (1,1,2,3,1,1,2,3,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2) -
2017-10-12 00:05 jesse1412: this part
2017-10-12 00:05 jesse1412: it plays so bad
2017-10-12 00:05 jesse1412: but it looks like it should be fine in editor
2017-10-12 00:06 jesse1412: 01:11:278 (2,3) -
2017-10-12 00:06 jesse1412: ctrl g here might help
2017-10-12 00:06 -GN: i think it's fine when you know they're stacked
2017-10-12 00:07 -GN: 01:10:355 (1,1) - 01:10:970 (1,1) - when you know these are stacked, i mean
2017-10-12 00:07 jesse1412: yeah I getcha
2017-10-12 00:07 -GN: it's just initially confusing but i find it's alright
2017-10-12 00:07 -GN: might wanna make it more clear if you don't like it though
2017-10-12 00:09 jesse1412: I don't mind as long as it can eventually make sense
2017-10-12 00:09 jesse1412: 01:44:354 (1) -
2017-10-12 00:09 jesse1412: this shit here
2017-10-12 00:09 jesse1412: need to know if it's passable
2017-10-12 00:09 jesse1412: considering the next set of double sliders too
2017-10-12 00:09 jesse1412: because they're not like the others, the slider ends don't land on the slider stard
2017-10-12 00:09 jesse1412: start*
2017-10-12 00:11 -GN: yeah they're possible to hit but you have to start late or spam them
2017-10-12 00:11 -GN: i hit them on HT right now so fcable for sure
2017-10-12 00:12 jesse1412: but are they so hard that the map isn't worth trying to pass?
2017-10-12 00:14 -GN: i'm not sure
2017-10-12 00:16 -GN: alright it seems they're only passable if you fc them
2017-10-12 00:16 -GN: which is pretty gay
2017-10-12 00:16 jesse1412: fuuuck that
2017-10-12 00:16 jesse1412: I'll fix the 2nd set of sliders so the ends are on the same spots as the starts
2017-10-12 00:16 jesse1412: then make the first pattern ends line up with the stream correctly
2017-10-12 00:17 -GN: nice
2017-10-12 00:17 -GN: 01:40:662 (1,2) - 
2017-10-12 00:17 -GN: also is this intended
2017-10-12 00:18 jesse1412: nope
2017-10-12 00:18 -GN: thought so
2017-10-12 00:20 jesse1412: nice spotting
2017-10-12 00:20 -GN: alright if you fix all of this i'm pretty sure i can pass it
2017-10-12 00:20 jesse1412: alright
2017-10-12 00:20 jesse1412: I'll upload after
2017-10-12 00:20 jesse1412: od8 or od9?
2017-10-12 00:20 -GN: put od9 for fun
2017-10-12 00:21 jesse1412: give it a test play with od9
2017-10-12 00:21 jesse1412: just to make sure
2017-10-12 00:24 -GN: still plays well
2017-10-12 00:24 -GN: if anything the start is even better with it
2017-10-12 00:24 -GN: but that might just be me being more familiar with the map
2017-10-12 00:24 jesse1412: alright I'll do it
2017-10-12 00:41 -GN: are you gonna upload it tonight
2017-10-12 00:42 jesse1412: mm
2017-10-12 00:42 jesse1412: basically just 1 pattern left to fix
2017-10-12 00:42 jesse1412: but it'll get updated after that too
2017-10-12 00:42 jesse1412: the end isn't hitsounded
2017-10-12 00:42 -GN: oh ok
2017-10-12 00:49 jesse1412: I'll upload now
2017-10-12 00:49 jesse1412: wait
2017-10-12 00:49 jesse1412: I need a background
2017-10-12 00:49 jesse1412: this is the hardest part
2017-10-12 00:49 -GN: wew
2017-10-12 00:50 -GN: https://gn.s-ul.eu/FOqIvOqx
2017-10-12 00:50 -GN: just use this but a widescreen edit
2017-10-12 00:50 jesse1412: I got the same one
2017-10-12 00:50 -GN: o
2017-10-12 00:50 jesse1412: goot shit
2017-10-12 00:51 jesse1412: the fuck
2017-10-12 00:51 jesse1412: I don't have photoshop on this pc
2017-10-12 00:51 jesse1412: how am I alive
2017-10-12 00:51 -GN: https://zenius-i-vanisher.com/simfiles/t7r%20mix%203%20GALACTIC%20GEYSER/INSOMNIA/INSOMNIA-bg.png
2017-10-12 00:51 -GN: good bg
2017-10-12 00:51 jesse1412: shame they're all so low rest
2017-10-12 00:52 jesse1412: maybe I'll collage them
2017-10-12 00:52 jesse1412: actuallyyy
2017-10-12 00:52 jesse1412: I should get the video tbh...
2017-10-12 00:54 jesse1412: fuck it
2017-10-12 00:54 jesse1412: cba
2017-10-12 00:54 -GN: you can do that later
2017-10-12 00:58 jesse1412: it's staying shitty res
2017-10-12 00:58 jesse1412: I ain't downloading photoshop just for this shit
2017-10-12 00:58 jesse1412: and paint is giving me aids
2017-10-12 00:58 -GN: lol
2017-10-12 01:00 jesse1412: there you go
2017-10-12 01:00 -GN: sweet
2017-10-12 01:01 jesse1412: lemme know if anything still looks strange
2017-10-12 01:01 -GN: gonna try it
2017-10-12 01:03 jesse1412: S T A C K L E N I E N C Y REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
2017-10-12 01:03 -GN: lol
2017-10-12 01:03 -GN: nah this is good
2017-10-12 01:03 jesse1412: looks pretty casual now compared to before
2017-10-12 01:03 -GN: nothing to point out anymore i think
2017-10-12 01:04 jesse1412: fixed
2017-10-12 01:04 jesse1412: 00:45:278 (1) -
2017-10-12 01:04 jesse1412: btw on this
2017-10-12 01:04 -GN: still has its fair share of tricky parts
2017-10-12 01:04 jesse1412: just go up and down with your cursor
2017-10-12 01:04 jesse1412: it's easier than it looks
2017-10-12 01:05 jesse1412: it plays the exact same as the slider before it if you do that on both
2017-10-12 01:05 -GN: oh i suppose
2017-10-12 01:07 jesse1412: did you updatE?
2017-10-12 01:07 jesse1412: btw if you post the chat log in the thread I'll give you free kudosu for modding
2017-10-12 01:07 -GN: sick
2017-10-12 01:07 -GN: also no didn't update
2017-10-12 01:07 -GN: i'll play it one last time
2017-10-12 01:09 jesse1412: aight
2017-10-12 01:09 jesse1412: now that the starting parts are starting to make sense to you, you'll wonder how anyone could struggle to read it in a day or two
2017-10-12 01:09 jesse1412: it looks so normal after trying it enough times
2017-10-12 01:09 jesse1412: fucking hell have you already started memorizing the stop slider part
2017-10-12 01:09 -GN: barely
2017-10-12 01:10 jesse1412: looks pretty okay now
2017-10-12 01:10 -GN: i know the first 4 notes and then i just stop on whatever i know is coming up
2017-10-12 01:10 -GN: but yeah this is good stuff
2017-10-12 01:10 jesse1412: just needs finished hitsounds
2017-10-12 01:10 jesse1412: but I might not ever do them cuz I'm shit at them and lazy
2017-10-12 01:11 -GN: actually a couple of things
2017-10-12 01:11 jesse1412: alright I'm gonna go shower
2017-10-12 01:11 jesse1412: o
2017-10-12 01:11 jesse1412: go for it
2017-10-12 01:11 -GN: 01:39:432 (1,2,1,2) - circles here notelock due to the sliderstartand make you miss
2017-10-12 01:12 -GN: might wanna put them on the same tick as the sliderstart
2017-10-12 01:12 jesse1412: hmm
2017-10-12 01:12 -GN: 01:44:354 (1,1,1,1,2,3,4,5) - this part still notelocks but i'm not sure if it's fixable
2017-10-12 01:12 jesse1412: alrighty
2017-10-12 01:13 jesse1412: I can 100% remove those notes on the slider ends
2017-10-12 01:13 jesse1412: I just thought it'd be a bit boring without notes there
2017-10-12 01:13 -GN: gonna do a bit of testing
2017-10-12 01:14 jesse1412: alrighty
2017-10-12 01:14 -GN: yeah the problem is the first 4 sliders, after the first one you notelock and can't hit them
2017-10-12 01:14 -GN: and you fail because those 3 100s are pretty important
2017-10-12 01:15 jesse1412: but it looks so pretty ;((((
2017-10-12 01:15 -GN: it's still fcable if you time it just right but dear god it's annoying
2017-10-12 01:16 -GN: yeah it's pretty, maybe if you just speed the sliders up 4x or so
2017-10-12 01:16 -GN: you don't hit those sliderends anyway, the "actual" slider end that's used for hit detection is 36 ms from the end
2017-10-12 01:17 -GN: good magic number, taken directly from osu source code
2017-10-12 01:17 jesse1412: ty mr peppy
2017-10-12 01:17 jesse1412: how bad is it to hit atm?
2017-10-12 01:19 jesse1412: I can't imagine it's worse than the shit in arabian
2017-10-12 01:19 -GN: it is
2017-10-12 01:20 -GN: because arabian doesn't notelock
2017-10-12 01:21 -GN: man you should back the original version up or something
2017-10-12 01:21 -GN: in case lazer fixes retarded slider notelocking
2017-10-12 01:21 -GN: because it ruins the map lol
2017-10-12 01:22 jesse1412: I hope lazer embraces 2b mapping
2017-10-12 01:22 jesse1412: it shouldn't be so special
2017-10-12 01:22 jesse1412: a good editor and proper gameplay around 2b elements would be crazy
2017-10-12 01:24 jesse1412: maybe I can alternate the sliders
2017-10-12 01:24 jesse1412: so it goes slider - note - slider - note - slider - note or someth
2017-10-12 01:24 jesse1412: speed the sliders up as it goes on
2017-10-12 01:25 -GN: yeah
2017-10-12 01:25 jesse1412: still a bit shit
2017-10-12 01:25 jesse1412: fuckin peppy
2017-10-12 01:27 -GN: ok if you speed up the sliders so they're 1/4 long the pattern can be reliably fcd i think
2017-10-12 01:27 -GN: still probably the hardest part of the map though
2017-10-12 01:29 jesse1412: I tried alternating slider/note/slider/note at 1/2 length
2017-10-12 01:29 jesse1412: can you check that?
2017-10-12 01:29 jesse1412: if not I'll do 1/4 length
2017-10-12 01:30 jesse1412: buffed some part near the end too becuase I'm a cunt
2017-10-12 01:31 -GN: well, you can test it yourself
2017-10-12 01:31 jesse1412: not really a buff
2017-10-12 01:31 jesse1412: you think I can hit that
2017-10-12 01:31 -GN: if auto breaks on it it's not working
2017-10-12 01:31 jesse1412: lmao
2017-10-12 01:31 jesse1412: alright
2017-10-12 01:31 jesse1412: I'll check auto
2017-10-12 01:32 jesse1412: auto gets smacked so hard it fails
2017-10-12 01:32 jesse1412: lmao
2017-10-12 01:32 jesse1412: w/e I'll fix it tomorrow