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Thaehan - Chiptune & Baroque

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Topic Starter
Izzeee
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 12:52:18 PM

Artist: Thaehan
Title: Chiptune & Baroque
BPM: 200
Filesize: 3310kb
Play Time: 01:13
Difficulties Available:
  1. Insane (4.71 stars, 450 notes)
  2. Landon's Hard (3.16 stars, 243 notes)
  3. Normal (2.21 stars, 97 notes)
Download: Thaehan - Chiptune & Baroque
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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100%! By Me
100%! By L a n d o n
100%! By Me
(the reason this is mapped this way is because of the kind of music this is) (oh and for a better version of this kind of mapping on insane see Bonsai's Jump error map kek)
nuthatch
00:02:832 (2,3) - Overlay the sliders, so that there is an easier flow and it's actually potentially possible to read on a first playthrough.

Good enough?
Topic Starter
Izzeee

nuthatch wrote:

00:02:832 (2,3) - Overlay the sliders, so that there is an easier flow and it's actually potentially possible to read on a first playthrough.
Fixed on both sections
Good enough?I guess kappa
Jval93700
Hey, from #modreqs for NM

Insane
- There some weird distance snap I can't understand :
00:03:432 (1,2,3)
00:16:932 (1,2)
00:23:232 (2,3,4,5)
00:25:032 (1,2,3)
00:34:632 (1,2,3)
- The end of this diff is too rough, you should map until 01:09:832 and then put a spinner

Anyway, I hope I helped you and good luck !
Topic Starter
Izzeee

Jval93700 wrote:

Hey, from #modreqs for NM

Insane: - There some weird distance snap I can't understand :
00:03:432 (1,2,3)Fixed
00:16:932 (1,2)Fixed
00:23:232 (2,3,4,5) Fixed
00:25:032 (1,2,3) Fixed
00:34:632 (1,2,3) Fixed
- The end of this diff is too rough, you should map until 01:09:832 and then put a spinner Fixed

Anyway, I hope I helped you and good luck !
DeletedUser_2188855
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Topic Starter
Izzeee

Coni wrote:

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Awesome!
L a n d o n
Landon's Hard
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Topic Starter
Izzeee

L a n d o n wrote:

Landon's Hard
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288,64,64732,6,2,L|416:64,1,100,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
416,64,65032,6,0,L|480:64,2,50
416,192,65332,2,0,L|416:256,2,50
288,192,65632,2,0,L|224:192,2,50
288,64,65932,2,0,L|288:0,2,50,8|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,64,66232,6,0,L|64:64,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,192,66532,5,0,0:0:0:0:
160,192,66632,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,66732,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,192,66832,1,8,0:0:0:0:
352,192,67132,6,2,L|352:64,1,100,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,64,67432,2,0,L|352:0,2,50
480,128,67732,6,0,L|480:256,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
480,256,68032,2,0,L|480:320,2,50,8|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,352,68332,6,0,L|256:352,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,352,68632,2,0,L|192:352,2,50
256,224,68932,6,0,L|384:224,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,224,69232,6,0,L|384:96,1,100
256,32,69532,2,0,L|256:160,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,224,69832,1,4,0:0:0:0:
Tanks
UselessXD
Hi!

Insane
This map is mapped in very old style. Chances of getting it ranked are very low..

00:06:532 (1,2,3,4) - this stream is crooked (I think you wanted to do it stratight)
00:17:232 (4,1) - jump-streams like this one are weird here.
00:16:932 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - spacing between these ain't the same
00:28:932 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - this pattern have to be changed.
00:40:432 (1) - too big slider velocity
01:07:332 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1) - this sequence isn't to a beat.

There aren't many timing problems, but this type of mapping is practicly unrankable. I think that WWW would be thankful for making maps like that :D

Well, good luck!
Topic Starter
Izzeee

UselessXD wrote:

Hi!

Insane
This map is mapped in very old style. Chances of getting it ranked are very low..

00:06:532 (1,2,3,4) - this stream is crooked (I think you wanted to do it stratight)Fixed
00:17:232 (4,1) - jump-streams like this one are weird here.Fixed
00:16:932 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - spacing between these ain't the same Fixed
00:28:932 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - this pattern have to be changed.Fixed
00:40:432 (1) - too big slider velocity Fixed
01:07:332 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1) - this sequence isn't to a beat. Made it just a deathstream with little spacing to match the other one.

There aren't many timing problems, but this type of mapping is practicly unrankable. I think that WWW would be thankful for making maps like that :D I saw maps like Jump Error get ranked so I decided to check it out and try.

Well, good luck!
Marianna
Hello, read first please, if dont use anything dont give kds.

Well, since I will not use your mod on my map, but I will still return the M4M I would just like to mention things that would greatly improve the gameplay, the spread of the map and will make the map easier to receive mods

General

The distance between the difficulties "Normal" and "Hard" is very large, it is not a good choice to leave a gap between 1.7 and 3.4. It would be a smart choice to add a difficulty between them and this would be the real "Hard" map. I'll explain this better in the Hard difficulty tips.



The combo colors are very standard, you should choose something more "personalized" since they are almost the same as the original Osu! skin. And please, Turn off Countdown and Widescreen Support.



The settings used in the set are very random and many unrakeable, I suggest following the examples below:
here
Normal:
HP: 4
CS: 3,2
AR: 4
OD: 4

Hard:
HP: 5
CS: 4
AR: 6
OD: 6

Light Insane:
HP: 5
CS: 4
AR: 7,5
OD: 7

Insane:
HP: 6
CS: 4
AR: 9
OD: 7,5



The gap of SV between Normal and Hard diff. Please, look at this gap.

Normal

Personally I find the DS very close and the SV very low for a Normal difficulty, it seems an Easy forcing Normal, to take a look at it. The standards are extremely straightforward, they give even a bit of laziness to play things like that, it seems uncreative, I understand that you wanted to represent 8-bits, however there are several ways to represent this musical style and of course one of the worst is with fully straight sliders . The lack of kiais also greatly affects the gameplay, leaving a bad impression on anyone who sees. Other faults are overlaps like 00 29:032 (1,1) - which seem entirely misplaced. 00:41:032 - Why the sudden change of DS? This is not allowed in low diffs and is very detrimental to the map, but I would prefer the whole map to be with a similar distance, but not so exaggerated. 00:55:432 (1,2) - For a map with 200 BPM this is risky and even undercutting for the map, any more experienced modder knows this is considered wrong in low diffs.


Hard

For me this difficulty is practically a Light Insane, patterns like 00:14:632 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1) - confirm this, a tip: To map you have to play by at least a little. The NCs look random and seem to have been left on the map anyway, look for a pattern for them. The same goes for Jumps, they are everywhere and have no reason or a standard for them to be used, no note of emphasis or anything of the kind. In fact the whole DS seems inconsistent. Suppose this is really a Hard, you certainly can not explain why so many of them 00:45:832 (1,2,3,4) - Do not forget that we are 200 BPM and 1/3, jumps with streams like this are very intense.


Insane


I really do not understand the existence of patterns like 00:02:332 (1) - with Finish + Whistle, this is a very annoying thing to hear, please review your hitsounding techniques. 00:15:732 (3,1) - This stack sounds pretty confusing, do not you think? And this keeps happening countless times during the gameplay, please try playing this. 00:19:432 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - please stop just copying and pasting things in the same place, this seems very lazy, try to go up the pattern gradually to each NC. 00:39:832 (2,3,4,1,2,3,1) - Just ... No. 00:38:632 (2,1,1,1) - Actually, that sounds pretty cool.
Overall this is the best diff of the mapset, but needs many revisions.

I hope it did not seem very thick during this mod, if that was the case I'm sorry, but you need to use what I said, at least think and reflect and apply in future mapsets. :)
Good luck~
L a n d o n

Hard

For me this difficulty is practically a Light Insane, patterns like 00:14:632 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1) - confirm this, a tip: To map you have to play by at least a little. The NCs look random and seem to have been left on the map anyway, look for a pattern for them. The same goes for Jumps, they are everywhere and have no reason or a standard for them to be used, no note of emphasis or anything of the kind. In fact the whole DS seems inconsistent. Suppose this is really a Hard, you certainly can not explain why so many of them 00:45:832 (1,2,3,4) - Do not forget that we are 200 BPM and 1/3, jumps with streams like this are very intense.
I think there was definitely an issue due to the fact that I tried to make the difficulty "feel chiptune" by only using vertical and horizontal slider placement. I only regarded distance between objects of slider ends to hit objects at the end of each combo, not realizing the big jumps in the grand scheme of things. The concept was definitely poorly executed, but I think I will try to reduce the star difficulty instead of introducing a light insane to make things easier, but I'll definitely keep this in mind while I remap the difficulty a bit. Thanks for the feedback, although I don't know what you mean by "to map you have to play by at least a little" but I'll assume you mean to be a little more lenient.
Topic Starter
Izzeee

Marianna wrote:

Hello, read first please, if dont use anything dont give kds.

Well, since I will not use your mod on my map, but I will still return the M4M I would just like to mention things that would greatly improve the gameplay, the spread of the map and will make the map easier to receive mods

General

The distance between the difficulties "Normal" and "Hard" is very large, it is not a good choice to leave a gap between 1.7 and 3.4. It would be a smart choice to add a difficulty between them and this would be the real "Hard" map. I'll explain this better in the Hard difficulty tips.



The combo colors are very standard, you should choose something more "personalized" since they are almost the same as the original Osu! skin. And please, Turn off Countdown and Widescreen Support.



The settings used in the set are very random and many unrakeable, I suggest following the examples below:
here
Normal:
HP: 4
CS: 3,2
AR: 4
OD: 4

Hard:
HP: 5
CS: 4
AR: 6
OD: 6

Light Insane:
HP: 5
CS: 4
AR: 7,5
OD: 7

Insane:
HP: 6
CS: 4
AR: 9
OD: 7,5



The gap of SV between Normal and Hard diff. Please, look at this gap.

Normal

Personally I find the DS very close and the SV very low for a Normal difficulty, it seems an Easy forcing Normal, to take a look at it. The standards are extremely straightforward, they give even a bit of laziness to play things like that, it seems uncreative, I understand that you wanted to represent 8-bits, however there are several ways to represent this musical style and of course one of the worst is with fully straight sliders . The lack of kiais also greatly affects the gameplay, leaving a bad impression on anyone who sees. Other faults are overlaps like 00 29:032 (1,1) - which seem entirely misplaced. 00:41:032 - Why the sudden change of DS? This is not allowed in low diffs and is very detrimental to the map, but I would prefer the whole map to be with a similar distance, but not so exaggerated. 00:55:432 (1,2) - For a map with 200 BPM this is risky and even undercutting for the map, any more experienced modder knows this is considered wrong in low diffs.


Hard

For me this difficulty is practically a Light Insane, patterns like 00:14:632 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1) - confirm this, a tip: To map you have to play by at least a little. The NCs look random and seem to have been left on the map anyway, look for a pattern for them. The same goes for Jumps, they are everywhere and have no reason or a standard for them to be used, no note of emphasis or anything of the kind. In fact the whole DS seems inconsistent. Suppose this is really a Hard, you certainly can not explain why so many of them 00:45:832 (1,2,3,4) - Do not forget that we are 200 BPM and 1/3, jumps with streams like this are very intense.


Insane


I really do not understand the existence of patterns like 00:02:332 (1) - with Finish + Whistle, this is a very annoying thing to hear, please review your hitsounding techniques. 00:15:732 (3,1) - This stack sounds pretty confusing, do not you think? And this keeps happening countless times during the gameplay, please try playing this. 00:19:432 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - please stop just copying and pasting things in the same place, this seems very lazy, try to go up the pattern gradually to each NC. 00:39:832 (2,3,4,1,2,3,1) - Just ... No. 00:38:632 (2,1,1,1) - Actually, that sounds pretty cool.
Overall this is the best diff of the mapset, but needs many revisions.

I hope it did not seem very thick during this mod, if that was the case I'm sorry, but you need to use what I said, at least think and reflect and apply in future mapsets. :)
Good luck~
Nerfed Landon's jumps mostly, :P
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