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AniSemble - Souji Okita 14/07/2019

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downy
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downy
Response to WaxYL

WaxYL wrote:

Apparently i have i problem with Noel edition. While using this skin scores are not getting submited to bancho. I don't have this problem while using other skins or Yukino version.
Relationship between a skin and submitting scores to bancho server is a flat-out zero
So the rundown is that either the server in your area is acting retarded and/or your internet also acting retarded. Idk.
Kondou-Shinichi
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Joined September 2015
Kondou-Shinichi
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Froste
9 posts
Joined March 2015
Froste
Some elements in the Kafuu Chino skin does not appear in game with compatibility mode enabled, like ranking letters in the ranking panel and the pause-overlay. Is this normal?
korewazesty
9 posts
Joined June 2016
korewazesty
Yes a good skin with Yui! Thanks :)
downy
68 posts
Joined June 2014
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downy
Response to Froste

Froste wrote:

Some elements in the Kafuu Chino skin does not appear in game with compatibility mode enabled, like ranking letters in the ranking panel and the pause-overlay. Is this normal?
Yeah, its normal. It can happen.
osu! doesnt handle very well when it comes to images that have huge dimension size.

normally restarting the game works regardless of compatibility mode enabled.
(potentially the RAM could be the main problem tho. eg Outdated)

if it doesnt work then i have no idea. maybe check the skin folder? idk.
Froste
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Joined March 2015
Froste

dlwnstns99 wrote:

Response to Froste

Froste wrote:

Some elements in the Kafuu Chino skin does not appear in game with compatibility mode enabled, like ranking letters in the ranking panel and the pause-overlay. Is this normal?
Yeah, its normal. It can happen.
osu! doesnt handle very well when it comes to images that have huge dimension size.

normally restarting the game works regardless of compatibility mode enabled.
(potentially the RAM could be the main problem tho. eg Outdated)

if it doesnt work then i have no idea. maybe check the skin folder? idk.
I tried restarting many times but it never works on my pc with compatibility mode and always works without it. I tried reinstalling the skin, the game and also my nvidia drivers. I've 8gb DDR4 RAM and my laptop only has 3 month (idk what you mean by outdated).
The files are all in the skin folder since it works without compatibility mode, but I've issues with OpenGL on my laptop that's why I use compatibility mode.
Could it be an issue with windows pagefile?
downy
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downy
Theres a lot of things I would like to say but I want to keep it short:

- Compatibility mode and skins have no correlation at all.

- Apologises if you dont understand from what I mean from "outdated"
I classify DDR3 or/and 4GB of Ram (or something along the lines which includes old PC parts) as outdated.

And yea like you said, windows pagefile could be the culprit. Try to check the pagefile size. (i highly doubt its the main issue tho)

If all goes wrong, then this is far beyond my help.
Froste
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Joined March 2015
Froste

dlwnstns99 wrote:

Theres a lot of things I would like to say but I want to keep it short:

- Compatibility mode and skins have no correlation at all.

- Apologises if you dont understand from what I mean from "outdated"
I classify DDR3 or/and 4GB of Ram (or something along the lines which includes old PC parts) as outdated.

And yea like you said, windows pagefile could be the culprit. Try to check the pagefile size. (i highly doubt its the main issue tho)

If all goes wrong, then this is far beyond my help.
Rendering and skins have no correlation at all? That wouldn't surprise me if it's another bug due to nvidia optimus tho.
downy
68 posts
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downy
I ran this skin without a dedicated graphics card and I had no issues whatsoever. I did include compatibility mode and it was still perfectly fine.
Very strange indeed.

How about try deleting play-skip elements? you can keep 1 frame if you wish

play-skip consumes the most out of the total size of the skin.
h3oCharles
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Joined July 2016
h3oCharles
Froste, the same stuff happened to me on Noel skin. My solution (and I'm not sure if you'll like it or not) is to remove all HD files. To do this, search "*@2x*" w/o quote marks and remove all of the results
Froste
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Joined March 2015
Froste
Ok I just made some tests following what you told me.
Skin is still Kafuu Chino.

Compatibility mode OFF never has missing elements

With compatibility mode ON :
Skin with no modificaition : missing elements (ranking letters in ranking panel, pause-overlay, fail-background)
Skin without any play-skip : no missing elements
Skin without any HD files : no missing elements but weird comma with the accuracy (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9960984)
Skin without any HD play-skip : no missing elements
Skin without any play-skip except 1 HD frame : no missing elements

Maybe a problem with memory limitation or something like that with compatibility mode? But that's weird because my RAM is only used at 61% with osu and chrome opened. I still don't understand why I've these memory problems only with compatibility mode when you dlwnstns99 have no issues at all. :(
Anyway I really like these skins so thank you!
downy
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downy
Woah shit good testing right there however:

I did test on kafuu chino in same conditions as yours and on my end, I got this:

Compatibility mode off: pass

With compatibility mode:
Skin without modification: pass
Skin without play-skip: pass
Skin without HD files: PASS
Skin without HD play-skip: pass
Skin with 1 HD frame of play-skip: pass

I've seen people having the comma and it irritates me. But I'm not gonna fix the comma because it feels so minor especially if I do not know what the actual cause of why this is happening.


Ok, when you open osu then immediately load up/play a beatmap:
Does it take a long time?
If it does, you may witness lag.
When that happens, quickly check your task manager.

Kinda sad that I'm not facing these problems when you, Froste and other people are having hard times using this skin fully. Apologises.
This is something I CAN'T do to fix. (prob)

Conclusion:

Pretty sure some computers are having this issue.
Memory limitation is one thing but there could also be another factor to it:

*This is based on what information I got from you*

File limitation size.
Reason why im saying this is because when you keep deleting shit in the folder, it goes fine.
So we know that Kafuu Chino is 166MB. So the maximum file size that it can handle is definitely lower than 166mb.
If we include deleting the HD play-skip except 1 frame, the size of disk is 128MB. So all I know is that 128MB is within the ahem...

'safe zone'

I dont know whats considered the file size as the safe zone but lower than 128MB should be fine. (in your case)

btw thanks for the compliment \o/
Froste
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Joined March 2015
Froste
When I load a map after opening osu it's a bit longer (maybe 1-2sec longer) when I've all skin elements, still with compatibility mode. Also I feel like I've a little lag when I first open the pause menu too, but it seems to be the case no matter the conditions.
What am I supposed to check in my task manager?

These are my osu ram usage with all skin elements and compatibility mode ON (missing elements) :
When I start the game : 212MB
When I go into song selection : Between 400 and 510MB
After loading a first map : 1170MB
After loading pause-menu (overlay is missing) : no change
Ram usage seems to stay over 1GB until I quit the game or I change skin.

Same conditions but compatibility mode OFF (no missing elements) :
When I start the game : 192MB
When I go into song selection : peak at 324MB then 300MB after a few seconds
After loading a first map : 374MB
After loading pause menu : ram usage increase something like 30MB

Now without HD play-skip and compatibility mode ON (no missing elements) ;
When I start the game : 212MB
When I go into song selection : Between 400 and 510MB
After loading a first map : 776MB
After loading pause menu : 837MB

Those tests are not that accurate since I loaded random beatmap, but that doesn't change that much.
It seems like some skin elements doesn't appear when osu ram usage goes over 1GB, I'm not sure tho. I've still 2,4GB of ram free when osu ram usage goes over 1GB.
downy
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downy
You check the task manager and see if everything is alright. Nothing more than that. lol

Ok I only tested out the compatibility mode (including the play-skip) and found out that:

When start game: 400MB
Song selection: 700MB
Loading first map: 1170-1178MB
RAM stays as over 1GB until quit or change skin.

I guess it depends on how many beatmaps you have when it comes to starting the game and entering the song selection menu.
I don't know why but I didn't realise that when I tried out compatibility mode, play-skip was acting retarded. Like it was flashing and shit. (I keep restarting and nothing changed)
AND IMPORTANTLY:
The ranking letters and pause background didnt appear. But as soon as I restarted the game, it went back to normal. This may happen to me but in a very slim chance.

We know that compatibility mode doesn't like to handle big skins especially the play-skip AND it consumes more RAM.
Optimisation-wise, compatibility mode is worse than the non-compatibility mode.

I think the play-skip buttons I make does not like compability mode which may affect other elements.
So to my own conclusion, osu! can run files from the skin but not all of them which basically means that other elements can just simply crash.
Froste
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Joined March 2015
Froste
Ok good to know.

That's sad that I need to play with compatibility mode since the combo nvidia optimus drivers + OpenGL + Windows 10 has poor performence in any game compared to DirectX. Less fps, more tearing and stuttering, or software like MSI Afterburner and RivaTuner that doesn't show the correct fps for any software using OpenGL rendering. (it actually shows fps*2, if I'm at 240fps it will shows 480fps https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9965208)
Hope nvidia will fix these drivers soon but it seems to be a long-standing issue. :(
h3oCharles
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h3oCharles
about the comma problem, it gets drawn based on what country you're on. Since I'm in Poland and decimals are separated with a comma there, it is used then.
However, you being in New Zealand, causes you to see the dot
downy
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downy
response to h3ocharles

h3oCharles wrote:

about the comma problem, it gets drawn based on what country you're on. Since I'm in Poland and decimals are separated with a comma there, it is used then.
However, you being in New Zealand, causes you to see the dot

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Froste
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Froste
The problem isn't the comma itself tho, but its size and position when there are no HD files.
downy
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downy
The reason being is that I didnt skin the comma therefore uses the default comma instead.

yea, that was my bad.
Froste
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Froste
But I don't understand why the comma has the right size and is properly placed when hd files are still there?
downy
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downy
Please elaborate what you mean by 'right size' and 'properly placed'
Froste
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Froste

dlwnstns99 wrote:

Please elaborate what you mean by 'right size' and 'properly placed'
Without HD files :


With HD files :
downy
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downy
huh idk about that tbh.

idk why it behaves like that.
Lhotse
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Lhotse
Hi!
I'm interested in skinning since a while now and I never succeeded to figure out how to skin the top part of the menu... i mean I knew it was about the "mode-xxx-small" etc but I never found the right size of the image, did you already know about it or did you just test it step by step to get the right template ? For three months i was unable to do it properly XD
Congrats for finding it and for these awesome skins ! Nice work !
downy
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downy
response to Lhotse

Lhotse wrote:

Hi!
I'm interested in skinning since a while now and I never succeeded to figure out how to skin the top part of the menu... i mean I knew it was about the "mode-xxx-small" etc but I never found the right size of the image, did you already know about it or did you just test it step by step to get the right template ? For three months i was unable to do it properly XD
Congrats for finding it and for these awesome skins ! Nice work !
Hello.
Are you asking for help regarding the mode-x-small?
You can use the mode-x-small from the skins i made and use them as a reference.
Surely, if you go to skins! discord server they may provide some help for you.
Otherwise dm me ewfwefgwg#2221 (im on holiday trip so I may not reply in a fast manner)

I tested it step by step. To my knowledge, back then there was no template for it because no one really has skinned the top section of song selection menu.

Thanks :>
Monster Bait
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Monster Bait
Hey man great job on that ro500 skin!
KylerMR
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KylerMR
LOOOOVE the skin! Just absolutely beautiful. Wasn't much of a fan of the 16:9 and trailless cursor but, this skin made me just love them. A quick question.. am i the only one bugged out with missing the "Replay" button? If so how could I fix this. I read the important notice stating to restart the game but I have and I still have no luck with it fixing itself.. any help. Thanks guys love ya <3. UPDATE skin is fine.. replay and health bar just missing for map/replay.. interesting but, oh well.
Enzie
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Enzie
These looks amazing! :)
downy
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downy
Response to KylerMR

KylerMR wrote:

LOOOOVE the skin! Just absolutely beautiful. Wasn't much of a fan of the 16:9 and trailless cursor but, this skin made me just love them. A quick question.. am i the only one bugged out with missing the "Replay" button? If so how could I fix this. I read the important notice stating to restart the game but I have and I still have no luck with it fixing itself.. any help. Thanks guys love ya <3. UPDATE skin is fine.. replay and health bar just missing for map/replay.. interesting but, oh well.
Hello

- You should probably state which skin(s) that you were using that's causing the bug.
- It would be also nice to screenshot as well.

It would comfortable for me to answer your situation better.

Honestly, I'm not sure why its happening. No one has told me about the bug that you mentioned. It could just be you.

Have you tried other skins besides mine?
Have you redownloaded the skin(s)?

Thats all the suggestion I could give.

Cheers.
downy
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downy
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h3oCharles
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h3oCharles

KylerMR wrote:

A quick question.. am i the only one bugged out with missing the "Replay" button? If so how could I fix this.
CTRL+O -> Skin -> Open current skin folder
are you sure that "pause-replay" is not a fully transparent image? If it's not, the replay in subject only stores the results and not the aim/tapping
Monster Bait
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Joined August 2015
Monster Bait
that ro500 skin is great! done the best ship girl justice ;o

hb btw (:
Meive
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Meive
POGGERS
Tennoji Rina
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Tennoji Rina
BUMP! Love the Zero Two Skin!
Renzu
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Renzu
You should add 16:10 resolution support

Oh and do one for Aqua (KonoSuba)
Yosagi
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Yosagi
素晴らしい
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downy
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downy
Response to spicy_sausage

spicy_sausage wrote:

You should add 16:10 resolution support

Oh and do one for Aqua (KonoSuba)


no.
Carried by Phat
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Carried by Phat
I love these skin a lot. I want to say my favorite is Jeanne of Arc since she is waifu but I just feel like her pause menu is lacking quality compare to the other fate skin Nero. I think the ranking panel picture of Jeanne is lacking in term of quality compare to the Nero skin, maybe a different high quality picture. The fail screen have room for creativity like the other Yukino skin. These are just minor stuffs but other than that I think this Jeanne skin is amazing. Looking forward to any update on this skin if there is one in the future because I really like Jeanne and Jalter.
downy
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downy
Response to pikaflare

pikaflare wrote:

I love these skin a lot. I want to say my favorite is Jeanne of Arc since she is waifu but I just feel like her pause menu is lacking quality compare to the other fate skin Nero. I think the ranking panel picture of Jeanne is lacking in term of quality compare to the Nero skin, maybe a different high quality picture. The fail screen have room for creativity like the other Yukino skin. These are just minor stuffs but other than that I think this Jeanne skin is amazing. Looking forward to any update on this skin if there is one in the future because I really like Jeanne and Jalter.


The old skins is quite 'outdated' compared to the new skins regarding quality. tbh i really want to remake jeanne after looking at it for quite some time but unfortunately i just dont have the right time to skin. feelsbad.
Carried by Phat
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Joined November 2013
Carried by Phat

dlwnstns99 wrote:

Response to pikaflare

pikaflare wrote:

I love these skin a lot. I want to say my favorite is Jeanne of Arc since she is waifu but I just feel like her pause menu is lacking quality compare to the other fate skin Nero. I think the ranking panel picture of Jeanne is lacking in term of quality compare to the Nero skin, maybe a different high quality picture. The fail screen have room for creativity like the other Yukino skin. These are just minor stuffs but other than that I think this Jeanne skin is amazing. Looking forward to any update on this skin if there is one in the future because I really like Jeanne and Jalter.


The old skins is quite 'outdated' compared to the new skins regarding quality. tbh i really want to remake jeanne after looking at it for quite some time but unfortunately i just dont have the right time to skin. feelsbad.

I hope there is a remake that would be awesome because like you said compare to some of the new skin of the list, this look quite outdated in a way. Hope you have some time to skin man.
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