1. Achromatic - 4Key (4.2 stars, 976 notes)
2. Ash's Normal - 4Key (1.98 stars, 485 notes)
3. Toaph's Hard - 4Key (3.12 stars, 701 notes)

Alternater wrote:

-EX-
00:02:210 (2210|3) - u should add another single note as there is a bass to equal all the other jack patterns.
00:03:467 (3467|2) - same here.
00:04:723 (4723|1) - same here.

00:10:535 (10535|1) - this LN should be moved from the white tick to the blue tick due to the high pitch sound being shorter.
00:24:514 (24514|1,24514|0,24592|2,24592|3) - perhaps change this from 1 2 - 3 4 to a 1 3 - 2 4 to add a change (lower, less bass), instead of it being the same as 00:24:200 (24200|2,24200|3,24278|1,24278|0) - (louder, drum) which both patterns do not have the same sound, might be best.
this 00:36:765 (36765|2,36765|3) - is the same as 00:36:451 (36451|1,36451|3,36451|2) - , must be consistent.
00:39:278 (39278|3,39278|2) - this should be a hand (3 notes) for the guitar sound.
00:37:393 (37393|0,37393|3) - same here.
00:37:707 (37707|0,37707|3,37707|2) - this should be switch from a hand to a jack (2 notes) due to not having the guitar.
00:38:022 (38022|0,38022|1) - here should be a jack.
00:47:760 (47760|2) - this definitely needs to be a jack, so try adding a single note next to the LN to fit the rest of those patterns.
01:18:074 (78074|0,78152|1) - this should be rethought just a bit, it feels a little unnatural with how your mapping usually was. No change because I used that column so the LN dont form a trill and so a retarded mini jack doesn't come out of those patterns

Applied everything else though, thank you~

Wonki wrote:

hey

00:10:613 (10613|1) - It must come down to the bottom. lol 00:10:535 - Applied

00:36:451 - Should add to kick sound. Applied

00:59:854 - Add note for vocal. definitely exist. No change, vocal already exists in column 1

01:08:179 (68179|1) - I think it should be split accodring to the vocal sound (1/2) Applied

01:17:917 (77917|1,77917|2) - Change it to make it easier to play.Applied

01:18:859 (78859|1) - I think single note for this sound doesn't give the expression of ending sound, due to vocal and guitar sounds. I'd recommend to change it into LN Applied

good luck !

- Ly0572 - wrote:

allo et mappers
m4m with lia-tan nox-san >w<

|1|2|3|4|

HD

00:11:006 - Would add another note for impact(loud sound snare cymbal and kick) mmmk

00:17:446 (17446|0,17603|3) - ctrl+h coz left part has to many ln's mimics earlier pattern/mirrors earlier pattern, won't change unless theres enough discomfort with both sections

00:25:299 (25299|3,25456|0,25613|3,25770|3,25770|0) - ctrl+h as well~ feels more comfy that way changed the first 3 notes, but im keeping the last two the way they are in favor of holding PR

00:26:320 - missed a note here ~ so add to |2| then move this 00:26:399 (26399|1) - to |4| awkward, since this is an HD diff, I kept triplets while holding LNs out of it for the sake of keeping spikes out (though maybe that's not too big of a deal, I'll discuss with some people about that)
00:37:001 (37001|3) - move to |3| well its just annoying to have a note after a 1/2 ln hmmm, alright
00:38:336 (38336|2,38336|3) - remove one note~ its over mapped imo i dont knoooooow that sound is preeetty loud

00:40:063 - suggestion for this part did something similar, but changed around the patterns a little bit from your suggestion


00:41:320 (41320|3) - move to |2| if previous suggestion is accepted not necessary imo

00:41:163 (41163|2) - ln ends here 00:41:477 - sure

00:41:477 - suggestion did something similar


00:42:891 (42891|3) - move this here 00:42:812 - HD diff - three note bursts (especially with the short LN patterning here) would likely be pretty hard compared to the rest

00:43:440 - add see above
00:47:760 - add sure
01:06:765 (66765|2,66765|3) - delete one note sound is clearly louder + kick so it should be represented by a jump
01:18:545 (78545|3,78545|0) - delete one note sure

riunosk wrote:

mod requested 1234

ToaphhpaoT

00:12:577 (12577|0,12577|1,12577|2) - snares seem to be mapped as doubles, but here it's triples. consistency error? check
00:13:205 (13205|1,13205|0,13205|2) - ^ and so forth, will not mention this check
00:42:105 - you mapped the double kick sound before, why not continue it? so instead of continuing to map the kick sound, I took it out in favor of avoiding triplet patterns while holding LNs down

checked through the rest of the chart to make sure everything looked alright, fixed any consistency errors I found, thanks!
Consistency errors, look out for them as they are almost all over the chart

riunosk wrote:

mod requested 1234

00:08:728 (8728|0,8807|0) - might be better to avoid this kind of pattern when there are additional trills ahead, generally this pattern is found when the jumptrill ends Applied
00:09:985 (9985|0,10063|0) - same goes Applied
00:12:419 - quite the focus on col 1- Fixed
00:17:917 (17917|1,17917|3,17917|0) - its a kick, not a snare, no reason for this to be a triple - Fixed
00:18:859 - missing note for snare Applied
00:19:488 - ^ - Applied
00:20:116 - ^ - Applied
00:31:268 (31268|1,31425|1,31582|1,31739|1) - anchor - Fixed
00:32:367 (32367|2,32524|2,32681|2,32838|2) - ^ - Fixed
00:33:624 (33624|1,33781|1,33938|1,34095|1) - ^ - Fixed
00:34:095 (34095|3,34252|3,34409|3,34566|3,34723|3,34880|3) - ^ - Fixed
00:36:294 (36294|2,36451|2,36608|2,36765|2,36922|2,37079|2) - ^ - Fixed
00:39:121 (39121|2,39278|2,39435|2,39592|2) - ^ - Fixed
00:41:163 (41163|2,41320|2,41477|2,41634|2,41791|2) - ^ - Fixed
00:43:205 (43205|2,43362|2,43519|2,43676|2) - ^ - Fixed
00:43:990 - for this i think it's better to continue the pattern that i'm seeing at 00:44:304 - instead of suddenly cutting it at the start
00:48:859 (48859|2) - probably better to move to col 1 to balance the hands due to 00:48:388 (48388|2,48545|2) - and 00:49:330 (49330|2,49488|2,49645|2) - - Fixed
01:13:519 (73519|0) - similar to above but col 2 - Fixed
01:14:461 (74461|2,74461|0,74461|1) - doesn't sound like a snare to me - Fixed
Multiple issues of all sorts, look out for anchors as well - Fixed
gud luk for renk

- Ly0572 - wrote:

allo et mappers
m4m with lia-tan nox-san >w<

|1|2|3|4|

NM

00:03:152 - would rearrange them to like this sure owo)b


00:06:294 (6294|0,6451|2,6608|1,6922|3,7079|0,7236|2,7393|1,7550|3,7707|2,7864|1,8022|0,8179|2,8336|3) - prefer following the roll here ~ change to 1/1 ln's lol xD I was trying to do anything but the 1/1 LN spam qwq so I followed just the kicks and the piano here.

00:26:320 - missed a note~ if u ignore this then 00:09:985 (9985|2) - should be deleted too?

00:28:833 - ^ I was thinking to have that early 1/4 in because it was surrounded by a break, so it's not going to be too bad if the player missed this note. (also trying to keep SR down ._.)

Raveille wrote:

quick mod of Ash

Ash

tbh if I could find ways to reduce the SR
00:09:906 (9906|1,9985|2) - 00:21:058 (21058|2,21137|1) - 00:21:844 (21844|1,21922|3) - turn these into 1/2 LNs But that makes the map super boring by eliminating the LNs and I dun want that uwu
00:31:111 - im guessing this portion, the LNs represent the fast 1/4 drum sounds? so 00:31:739 (31739|2) - 00:32:995 (32995|3) - 00:34:252 (34252|2) - can be LNs idk... yes, there are 1/4s here, but there nowhere near as audible as the ones that are mapped as LNs.

Everything else should be fine though, a bit hard to reduce the SR if 00:11:006 - this portion keeps all the 1/2 notes but I guess this is the nature of this song. gl I was trying to keep that damned SR down xD

riunosk wrote:

mod requested 1234

ashy

00:09:514 (9514|3) - might be better if placed at 2 for easier reading Fair point. Was just a little concerned about the OH movement for this one.
00:11:006 (11006|3,11006|1) - 24 seems rather awkward to begin, why not try 14? Yeah, the previous notes were [14] as well but oh well xD
00:23:885 (23885|3,23964|0,24200|2,24278|1,24514|0,24592|3) - rather oddly timed, might be better to follow the piano instead Hmm...
probably gonna need some more opinions on this one. I mean, the section doesn't really follow piano at all for this section, so might be a little odd to start following it again. (plus variation cus everyone knows constant js at this speed kinda sux)
00:30:482 (30482|0,30639|1,30796|2) - what are these 3 LNs following? i can't really tell Guitar whilst also covering that 1/4 drum roll
01:13:126 (73126|2) - seems oddly snapped, was it meant to be on the red line? Nope, deliberate. I thought the snare on the 1/4 was more prominent that the one on the 1/2, hence why the note's there
Decent chart thanks owo)b

gud luk for renk

Captain Falcon wrote:

Mod requested.
(0/1/2/3)

Toaph's HD (Done)

00:08:807 (8807|2,8807|3) - You use a double note here, but later use a triple on 00:10:063 (10063|0,10063|2,10063|3) - I think they sound similar, could be a consistency issue but I am indecisive. mmmmk
00:25:927 (25927|2) - I'd add a NM note to go with this LN, there is a drum hit with the vocal. fair
00:28:283 (28283|3) - Should be another NM note here, to be consistent with the part right after 00:28:440 (28440|2,28440|1) 28.440 has a cymbal crash on top of the other sounds so 28:253 shouldn't have the same representation
00:29:540 (29540|1) - Double NM here to be consistent (all these hands could be problems for an HD difficulty though, I recognize that). will accept for now
00:35:980 (35980|1) - Could be double NM, more emphasis on drum sound here. fair
00:36:451 (36451|3,36451|0) - You use a single NM here, but later a double NM at 00:38:964 (38964|3,38964|0,38964|2) - I'd review this section for consistency. don't remember why i did that...fixed
00:40:221 (40221|2,40221|3) - Don't think this needs to be a double NM, its not really different from the rest of the drum roll. there's an inflection in the drum sound that defends the placement of this jump
thanks for the mod my guy! Will send the new result to Hanss through discord for him to update soon

Tofu1222 wrote:

Hi, NM Request from PM.

4K:1|2|3|4

[General]

1. Make sure you turn off Widescreen Support in all diffs.
2. The hitsound volume is too high for me. I would suggest some value like 50%.

[EX]

1. 00:10:063 - Here you can perceive a much stronger drum sound than before, so I would like to make a triple note here. If you want to avoid mini-jack just delete 00:09:985 (9985|0) - , but it depends on you.
2. 00:21:058 - to 00:22:315 - You can try this way to rearrange your pattern to at least give some more difference with HD: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9385522
3. 00:22:472 - And for here I would rather think double notes fit with the volume of these strong drums. Try this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9385527
4. 00:32:367 (32367|2,32367|1,32524|2,32524|0,32524|3,32681|3,32681|1,32760|2,32838|0,32838|1,32838|3) - It is better to rearrange this pattern so it will not repeat with the patterns before.
5. 00:34:566 (34566|0,34566|3,34645|2,34723|1,34723|3,34723|0) - You may want to ctrl+h this pattern to mirror 00:33:938 (33938|3,33938|0,34016|2,34095|0,34095|1,34095|3) -
6. 00:42:105 (42105|0,42105|3,42184|1,42262|2,42262|3,42262|0) - Ctrl+h this pattern to mirror 00:41:477 (41477|0,41477|3,41556|1,41634|2,41634|3,41634|0) -
7. 01:07:236 (67236|1,67236|2) - Just like HD, it is a nice idea to make them into double 1/2 LNs as they reflect the song better.

Sorry for short mods. Good luck!

Falcon wrote:

Mod requested.
(0/1/2/3)

Ash's NM (Done)

00:07:079 (7079|0) - I don't know what the LN follows here. I think it flows better as a NM. This covers the 1/4 piano,
which is what I focus on for the next measure. I think it's ok tbh
00:09:592 - The tone of the drum rolls changes here slightly, but you could still continue the LN pattern by putting one on 3 (screencapped for reference).

Fair point, but since the drums moved to the more towards the background, I chose not to map these.
00:26:241 (26241|1,28755|1) - Could be changed to LNs to follow the drum rolls. I think it was more of a personal preference to not have LNs in this small section more than anything else.
00:29:226 (29226|2,29383|0,29697|2) - Same comment as above. I guess I have the same response here then lol

2017-12-17 05:26 Tofu1222: well are you still online
2017-12-17 05:26 Tofu1222: ;w;
2017-12-17 05:26 Asherz007: ya
2017-12-17 05:26 Asherz007: uwu
2017-12-17 05:27 Tofu1222: the thing is noxus wanna me to bub his just awake today
2017-12-17 05:27 Tofu1222: and if you dont care we may fast settle down your diff uwu
2017-12-17 05:27 Asherz007: lol sure
2017-12-17 05:27 Asherz007: I actually need to redownload it xd
2017-12-17 05:28 Asherz007: Oh crap I didn't even respond to that last mod lol
2017-12-17 05:30 Asherz007: and hitsounds have magically appeared lmao
2017-12-17 05:30 Tofu1222: xd
2017-12-17 05:31 Tofu1222: may i post my mod here first when you are replying the other one?
2017-12-17 05:32 Asherz007: yeah it's only like 4 points so go ahead
2017-12-17 05:32 Tofu1222: ok
2017-12-17 05:32 Tofu1222: 00:17:289 (17289|3) - move to col3 for balance
2017-12-17 05:34 Tofu1222: 00:42:891 (42891|3) - better move to col3 imo
2017-12-17 05:36 Asherz007: What kinda balance we looking at
2017-12-17 05:37 Tofu1222: 00:16:974 (16974|3,17289|3,17603|3) - avoid such stuff
2017-12-17 05:37 Asherz007: I wouldn't have thought a 3-note stack was much of a big deal
2017-12-17 05:38 Asherz007: trying not to make everything so rolly n that
2017-12-17 05:39 Tofu1222: just my personal opinion tho
2017-12-17 05:39 Asherz007: that's fair enough
2017-12-17 05:39 Tofu1222: xd it's not that big deal to urge you change that
2017-12-17 05:39 Asherz007: I'll move the second one for a mirror pattern I guess
2017-12-17 05:39 Tofu1222: yeah
2017-12-17 05:39 Asherz007: Probs a slight rearrange for the first one
2017-12-17 05:40 Asherz007: also get them to sort out this doubled hitsound thing cus it's annoying me lol
2017-12-17 05:41 Asherz007: I'll sort it for my diff I guess
2017-12-17 05:41 Tofu1222: yea
2017-12-17 05:41 Tofu1222: Noxus should have known sth bout hitsound?
2017-12-17 05:42 Asherz007: dunno who hitsounded
2017-12-17 05:42 Tofu1222: your patterns i think are well to go xd
2017-12-17 05:42 Asherz007: alrighty then
2017-12-17 05:42 Asherz007: I'll just sort the hitsounds out a little bit for my diff then
2017-12-17 05:43 Tofu1222: Ok
2017-12-17 05:52 Asherz007: yeah it's kinda not that well hitsounded imo
2017-12-17 05:52 Tofu1222: i will address this to him ofc

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192,192,19645,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,19802,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,19959,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,20116,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,20116,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,20273,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,20430,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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320,192,20587,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,20744,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,20744,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,21058,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,21137,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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192,192,21844,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,21922,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,22001,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,22315,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,22315,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,22472,128,2,22629:0:0:0:0:
64,192,22629,128,2,22786:0:0:0:0:
448,192,22786,128,10,22943:0:0:0:0:
192,192,22943,128,2,23100:0:0:0:0:
320,192,23100,128,2,23257:0:0:0:0:
448,192,23257,128,10,23414:0:0:0:0:
64,192,23414,128,2,23571:0:0:0:0:
192,192,23571,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,23885,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,23964,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,24200,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,24278,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,24514,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,24592,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,24828,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,24828,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,24985,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,24985,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,25142,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,25299,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,25456,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,25456,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,192,25613,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,25770,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,25927,1,4,0:0:0:0:
448,192,25927,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,26241,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,26399,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,26399,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,26713,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,26870,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,27027,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,27027,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,27184,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,27498,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,27655,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,27655,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,27969,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,28126,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,28283,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,28283,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,28440,1,4,0:0:0:0:
448,192,28440,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,28755,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,28912,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,28912,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,29226,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,29383,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,29540,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,29540,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,29697,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,29854,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,29854,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,30011,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,30168,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,30325,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,30482,128,8,30639:0:0:0:0:
192,192,30639,128,8,30796:0:0:0:0:
320,192,30796,128,2,31111:0:0:0:0:
64,192,31111,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,31111,1,4,0:0:0:0:
192,192,31268,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,31425,128,2,31582:0:0:0:0:
64,192,31582,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,31739,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,31896,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,32053,128,2,32210:0:0:0:0:
448,192,32210,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,32367,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,32524,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,192,32681,128,2,32838:0:0:0:0:
320,192,32838,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,32995,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,33152,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,33310,128,2,33467:0:0:0:0:
192,192,33467,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,33624,1,4,0:0:0:0:
448,192,33624,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,33781,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,33938,128,2,34095:0:0:0:0:
192,192,34095,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,34252,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,34409,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,34566,128,2,34723:0:0:0:0:
320,192,34723,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,192,34880,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,35037,128,8,35194:0:0:0:0:
320,192,35194,128,8,35351:0:0:0:0:
192,192,35351,128,8,35508:0:0:0:0:
448,192,35508,128,2,35666:0:0:0:0:
320,192,35666,128,2,35823:0:0:0:0:
192,192,35823,128,2,35980:0:0:0:0:
64,192,35980,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,35980,1,4,0:0:0:0:
320,192,36294,128,2,36451:0:0:0:0:
64,192,36451,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,36608,128,2,36765:0:0:0:0:
64,192,36765,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,36922,128,2,37079:0:0:0:0:
448,192,37079,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,37236,128,2,37393:0:0:0:0:
320,192,37393,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,37550,128,2,37707:0:0:0:0:
192,192,37707,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,37864,128,2,38022:0:0:0:0:
64,192,38022,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,38179,128,2,38336:0:0:0:0:
320,192,38336,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,38493,1,4,0:0:0:0:
448,192,38493,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,38807,128,2,38964:0:0:0:0:
320,192,38964,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,39121,128,2,39278:0:0:0:0:
320,192,39278,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,39435,128,2,39592:0:0:0:0:
192,192,39592,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,39749,128,2,39906:0:0:0:0:
64,192,39906,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,39985,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,192,40221,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,40299,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,40535,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,40613,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,40849,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,40927,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,41163,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,41163,1,4,0:0:0:0:
320,192,41320,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,192,41477,128,2,41634:0:0:0:0:
448,192,41634,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,41791,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,41948,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,42105,128,2,42262:0:0:0:0:
192,192,42262,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,42419,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,42577,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,42734,128,2,42891:0:0:0:0:
320,192,42891,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,192,43048,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,43205,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,43362,128,2,43519:0:0:0:0:
192,192,43519,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,43676,1,4,0:0:0:0:
448,192,43676,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,43990,1,10,0:0:0:0:
64,192,44147,1,10,0:0:0:0:
448,192,44304,1,10,0:0:0:0:
192,192,44461,1,10,0:0:0:0:
320,192,44618,1,10,0:0:0:0:
448,192,44775,1,10,0:0:0:0:
192,192,44933,1,10,0:0:0:0:
64,192,45247,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,45325,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,45561,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,192,45639,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,45875,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,45875,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,192,46032,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,46032,1,4,0:0:0:0:
64,192,46346,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,46503,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,46503,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,46817,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,46974,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,47132,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,47132,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,47289,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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64,192,49488,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,49645,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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320,192,49959,128,2,50273:0:0:0:0:
64,192,50273,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,192,50587,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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320,192,50901,128,2,51058:0:0:0:0:
192,192,51058,128,2,51215:0:0:0:0:
64,192,51215,1,4,0:0:0:0:
448,192,51215,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,51529,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,51529,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,51844,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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320,192,52158,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,52472,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,52786,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,52786,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,53100,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,53414,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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320,192,53728,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,54043,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,54043,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,54357,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,54671,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,54671,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,54985,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,55142,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,55299,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,55299,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,55456,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,55613,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,55613,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,55770,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,55927,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,56084,1,4,0:0:0:0:
64,192,56084,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,56399,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,56556,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,56556,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,56870,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,57027,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,57184,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,192,57184,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,57341,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,57655,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,57812,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,57812,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,58126,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,58283,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,58440,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,58440,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,192,58597,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,58597,1,4,0:0:0:0:
320,192,58912,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,59069,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,59069,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,192,59383,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,59540,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,59697,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,59697,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,60011,128,2,60325:0:0:0:0:
448,192,60325,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,60639,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,60796,128,8,60953:0:0:0:0:
448,192,60953,128,2,61111:0:0:0:0:
192,192,61111,128,2,61268:0:0:0:0:
64,192,61268,1,4,0:0:0:0:
320,192,61268,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,61582,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,61582,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,61896,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,62210,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,62210,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,62524,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,62838,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,62838,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,63152,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,63467,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,63467,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,63781,1,4,0:0:0:0:
64,192,63781,128,2,64252:0:0:0:0:
320,192,64252,1,4,0:0:0:0:
448,192,64252,128,2,64723:0:0:0:0:
320,192,64723,1,4,0:0:0:0:
192,192,64723,128,2,65194:0:0:0:0:
64,192,65194,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,65194,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,65351,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,65351,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,65666,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,65666,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,65823,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,65980,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,66294,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,66294,1,4,0:0:0:0:
192,192,66451,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,66608,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,66765,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,66765,1,4,0:0:0:0:
192,192,67079,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,67236,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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192,192,68807,1,4,0:0:0:0:
320,192,68807,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,69121,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,69121,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,69435,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,69749,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,69749,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,70063,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,70378,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,70378,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,192,70692,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,71006,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,71006,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,71320,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,71477,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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64,192,71791,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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192,192,72105,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,72262,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,72262,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,72577,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,72891,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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320,192,73126,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,73205,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,73362,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,192,73519,128,2,73833:0:0:0:0:
64,192,73833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,73833,1,4,0:0:0:0:
192,192,74147,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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320,192,74461,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,74775,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,74775,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,75090,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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320,192,75404,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,75718,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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320,192,77132,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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192,192,78231,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,78388,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,78545,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,78702,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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64,192,78859,1,4,0:0:0:0:

1. 00:09:435 - to 00:09:749 - How about rearranging in this way to make things easier since 1/4 patterns are still a bit challenging for this diff? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9784209. sure why not
2. 00:24:357 - Same as above. Try this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9784216. i see what you want, but I'm gonna make a small change to that pattern to avoid the anchor right at the end
3. 00:28:126 (28126|0) - You may rearrange the patterns around to make this LN the same length as the highest diff. It looks a bit inconsistent. this is specifically done for PR so I'd rather not change it
4. 00:42:419 (42419|0) - There is a stop in this sound, so better split the LN into two, with the 2nd from 00:42:577 - . sure? this one is pretty hard for me to hear but sure
5. 00:45:796 (45796|0) - Why not putting on col4 to finish this stair and help with balance? Don't necessarily see the point but w/e
6. 00:46:032 - to 00:51:215 - I don't mean that your patterns are bad, but compared to Normal, it is a huge gap due to the focus on LNs. A solution for you to resolve this gap issue is to abandon either the vocal or guitar sounds you are using LNs to represent for. And it will be reasonable going with no LNs in normal, LNs for one instrument in Hard and for two in Expert. yeah that's fair
7. 00:54:985 (54985|1) - Move to col1 for balance. i suppose, but didn't change it for "balance", which isn't my main concern. Did it to avoid a small "minijack" type thing, and tried to avoid it anywhere else.
8. 00:56:084 - to 00:54:985 (54985|1) - The same gap issue pointed out earlier. Apply your solution here too. Thought you were talking about like gaps between notes at first lol. Figured it out tho. Fixed owob
9. To avoid 01:02:838 (62838|0,62995|0) - this, you may move 01:02:995 (62995|0) - to col2, and then 01:03:310 (63310|1,63467|0) - flip these two objects. good catch, talked about earlier
10. 01:03:467 (63467|2) - The guitars here seem a bit unclear. Actually following the Expert LN placement here will be nice. tfw expert placement is wrong but i have to follow it smh. Fixed tho. 01:12:577 (72577|3,73048|1) - these two are staying as is to follow the length of the sound though
11. 01:06:608 (66608|0) - If you are following the melody, it should start at 01:06:765 - . how about i start it at 01:06:294 - instead
12. 01:08:179 (68179|2) - Suggest shorten the length of this LN and follow the Expert. no. That one is following the length of the voice,
    and shortening it sacrifices quality imo. Plus this is really minor so
13. 01:08:807 (68807|0) - 01:13:048 (73048|1) - You may take a look at Expert and adjust your LNs here. somewhat fixed, not following the EX for the lengths of some of the notes
14. 01:18:231 - Single note here is quite enough compared to the volume of 01:18:388 - such sound. sure

error_exe777 wrote:

btw alluka doesnt appear until one of the later arcs in hxh and the song is from the first arc so pls change bg kthx

error_exe777 wrote:

well this is not how i would go about this map honestly.

open

okay its hard to make objective points with this map since im basically contradicting your mapping style but i thought id say something after i heard concerns from a couple people.

m o s t of the map is charted with vocal or guitar over the drums. and quite frankly i feel that they have all blocked you from creating any sort of interesting patterns or concepts and instead its just a blur of LNs which seriously aren't nice to play. there is tons of strain and pressure behind them and it really ruins the experience from a playing point of view. from a mappers view, it doesnt give any emphasis towards the drums, which in this song are prominent throughout the song and since you prioritised (by the looks of it) the guitar, vocals etc it takes away that kind of emphasis or feeling that the drums give off during the song.

oh god and kiai. ah kiai. if this didnt exist i wouldn't make this post but here i am. my god kiai is an absolute state. since you again charted vocals AND another synth sound thing it takes this feeling of lost emphasis to a whole new extent. it feels extremely overmapped to the point where it feels like an attempt at something cool but instead is a mess of LNs that contradicts the music. the song itself is very sharp and in a way sophisticated and by charting LNs it completely goes against what the song is trying to convey. if it was another keymode it would be less of a pain to play and chart but since its 4k you're stuck with the mess that is this section.

the whole kiai is also very sudden and in a way shocking after the whole note spams at 00:36:294 - to 00:46:032 - . you would kind of expect more notes but i guess this is fine. Charting Keys, Vocals and Drums in the same part to make a dense, challenging and rewarding section to hit. It's the hardest difficulty after all. Not going to make this another bland TV Size, sorry. The whole twist of the chart people won't see coming is a nice barrage of LN which are reasonable.

take a look at ash's diff, specifically kiai. its pretty much exactly how i would map this, and if these concepts were applied to higher diffs, it would work perfectly. I'd prefer the current style I have in the kiai section. Thanks for your opinion though.

now this was a pretty subjective argument, since i disagree with how you've mapped the song as a whole, rather than sections within the map. im not asking you to change anything since its your mapping style and you're allowed to have that, i just feel in this instance it gets in the way of what the song is trying to portray/convey. if you were open to changes (which i doubt since its bubbled and blocko is on the way) i recommend you chart the drums over all else within the map. it would show the song (imo) alot better than it is now, since there will be more emphasis on the more prominent sounds which is essentially a basic osu mania principle. - "I'm not asking you to change anything".... well I did with a self mod to help flow and decrease density in certain parts of the kiai and with Tofu, I created a smoother transition for some of the Vocal + Synth melody change sections.

here's a mod bc i found some stuff - Thanks

[top diff]

i have to say it is pretty well polished. - Thanks

00:06:294 (6294|1,6372|2,6451|1,6608|2,6686|1,6765|2,7079|3,7158|1,7236|3,7707|0,7786|3,7864|0,8100|3,8179|1,8257|3) - this whole section is infested with some weird trills which kinda make it awkward to play and hinders flow slightly. if its intended then go ahead but i personally would prefer rolls or bursts rather than trills because they are more comfortable to play - No change, I think it plays out well enough and would use the term "awkward" a bit less loosely..it's not really that awkward at all.

00:10:535 (10535|1) - like umo said, this should end 1/4 earlier but its up to you really, since it would flow better as 1/2 - No change, I prefer the flow.

00:11:948 (11948|0,12184|0) - this LN shield here makes no sense to me since it only makes it cancer to play and doesnt give any chart benefits or whatever. a simple solution is to CTRL+H these 00:12:184 (12184|0,12262|3) - Changed, applied the CTRL+H.

00:33:624 - triple for cymbal, right? or a quad like at 00:38:493 -Fixed, changed it to a triple chord. Avoided the quad chord at 33 seconds in to avoid an insane stack on the 1st and 4th column.

01:00:011 (60011|3,60090|2,60168|0,60247|3,60325|0) - these need to trill like at 00:49:959 (49959|3,50037|0,50116|3,50194|0,50273|3) -Fixed.

nothing here was meant to be rude. if i came across as rude then i apologise. - I'm not a child, you're fine lol.

btw alluka doesnt appear until one of the later arcs in hxh and the song is from the first arc so pls change bg kthx - Nope c:

Litharrale wrote:

error_exe777 wrote:

btw alluka doesnt appear until one of the later arcs in hxh and the song is from the first arc so pls change bg kthx

I concur!

Tofu1222 wrote:

Recheck.

[Achromatic]

1. 00:44:147 (44147|0,44304|0,44461|0,44618|0,44775|0) - Maybe you can rearrange this part to avoid this stack? - Fixed
2. 00:49:645 (49645|2) - I think this LN should be splited into two cuz they represent different melody sounds. - Fixed
3. 00:59:697 (59697|0) - Same as above. - Fixed

Not really spot any other problems. Check these first and I guess this diff should be good to go.

Tofu1222 wrote:

Rechecked and top diff is quite well polished. Rebubbled!

Tofu1222 wrote:

Rechecked and top diff is quite well polished. Rebubbled!

Pics 1

Pics 2

CrumpetFiddler wrote:

Tofu1222 wrote:

Rechecked and top diff is quite well polished. Rebubbled!

i think this rebubble is incredibly hasty, expecially because of how... questionable the top difficulty is. - Yikes

Some of the mods that have been posted have either been shoved to the side or straight out ignored and i really thing as a mapper you really should go back and read the mods and think about what people are asking you to do before you respond. - Find one that has been completely shoved to the side and come back to me, thanks.

From what ive seen in discord talking to you and others who have also spoken to you, you seem incredibly reluctant to change even when its clearly beneficial.
"Reluctant" lol error is literally the only person you are referring to (which wasn't ignored). So stop with the baseless accusations lmfao

Pics 1

Useless pics

Error's mod

error_exe777 wrote:

well this is not how i would go about this map honestly.

okay its hard to make objective points with this map since im basically contradicting your mapping style but i thought id say something after i heard concerns from a couple people.

m o s t of the map is charted with vocal or guitar over the drums. and quite frankly i feel that they have all blocked you from creating any sort of interesting patterns or concepts and instead its just a blur of LNs which seriously aren't nice to play. there is tons of strain and pressure behind them and it really ruins the experience from a playing point of view. from a mappers view, it doesnt give any emphasis towards the drums, which in this song are prominent throughout the song and since you prioritised (by the looks of it) the guitar, vocals etc it takes away that kind of emphasis or feeling that the drums give off during the song.

oh god and kiai. ah kiai. if this didnt exist i wouldn't make this post but here i am. my god kiai is an absolute state. since you again charted vocals AND another synth sound thing it takes this feeling of lost emphasis to a whole new extent. it feels extremely overmapped to the point where it feels like an attempt at something cool but instead is a mess of LNs that contradicts the music. the song itself is very sharp and in a way sophisticated and by charting LNs it completely goes against what the song is trying to convey. if it was another keymode it would be less of a pain to play and chart but since its 4k you're stuck with the mess that is this section.

the whole kiai is also very sudden and in a way shocking after the whole note spams at 00:36:294 - to 00:46:032 - . you would kind of expect more notes but i guess this is fine.

take a look at ash's diff, specifically kiai. its pretty much exactly how i would map this, and if these concepts were applied to higher diffs, it would work perfectly.

now this was a pretty subjective argument, since i disagree with how you've mapped the song as a whole, rather than sections within the map. im not asking you to change anything since its your mapping style and you're allowed to have that, i just feel in this instance it gets in the way of what the song is trying to portray/convey. if you were open to changes (which i doubt since its bubbled and blocko is on the way) i recommend you chart the drums over all else within the map. it would show the song (imo) alot better than it is now, since there will be more emphasis on the more prominent sounds which is essentially a basic osu mania principle.

here's a mod bc i found some stuff

[top diff]

i have to say it is pretty well polished.

00:06:294 (6294|1,6372|2,6451|1,6608|2,6686|1,6765|2,7079|3,7158|1,7236|3,7707|0,7786|3,7864|0,8100|3,8179|1,8257|3) - this whole section is infested with some weird trills which kinda make it awkward to play and hinders flow slightly. if its intended then go ahead but i personally would prefer rolls or bursts rather than trills because they are more comfortable to play

00:10:535 (10535|1) - like umo said, this should end 1/4 earlier but its up to you really, since it would flow better as 1/2

00:11:948 (11948|0,12184|0) - this LN shield here makes no sense to me since it only makes it cancer to play and doesnt give any chart benefits or whatever. a simple solution is to CTRL+H these 00:12:184 (12184|0,12262|3) -

00:33:624 - triple for cymbal, right? or a quad like at 00:38:493 -

01:00:011 (60011|3,60090|2,60168|0,60247|3,60325|0) - these need to trill like at 00:49:959 (49959|3,50037|0,50116|3,50194|0,50273|3) -

nothing here was meant to be rude. if i came across as rude then i apologise.

btw alluka doesnt appear until one of the later arcs in hxh and the song is from the first arc so pls change bg kthx

This mod inparticular expresses concerns with the map, most prominently the play-ability of the song during the kiai time which had some very valid points that absolutely could of been resolved or reasoned against.
Instead from all i can gather theres reluctance to change, or even consider change.
You blind my dude?

Me memeing for the most part, oh my lord! Sorry! (referring to "Pics 2" box)

Pics 2

I feel this map still has a ton of room for discussion and think its way to early to result in a bubble, i feel more selfmodding / mods from other modders should be gathered to assist this map in becoming the best it can be. - Thanks for your opinion, how about you mod it then

TO CLARIFY ; Im not making this post to be an ass (I'll be nice and not resort to screenshots lmao), im making this to help have this map be the best it can be, especially since its clear your going for ranked.
I'm looking forward to your response on errors mod as i think that was heavily overlooked.
"Heavily overlooked", once again are you blind? lmfao


I wish you luck on furthering this map, its got alot of potential, but i dont think its quite ready yet. Thanks

~Crumpey

The picture above is referring to me editing the post in error's mod. The self mod and rebubble modding was done after error's post was already out and the edit (which was me toning my response further after the recent mods done by myself and tofu) was done before CrumpetFiddlers post lol..
try being more perceptive before you bag on someone my dude

error_exe777 wrote:

oh you know what you are being an absolute fucking asshole.

your replies to mine and crumpets concerns have been condescending and very passive aggressive. we have said our concerns about the map in a relatively civil way and you've just replied like you don't give a shit about your own map. seriously, stop acting like you are above us because that is seriously the vibe you're giving off.

i'm really not happy with any of your replies. they dont help with trying to improve your own map let alone help us try to help you, or even just understand the map some more. everything you have said it just treated like trash and thrown away before we can act. now i beg that you grow up and reply to the concerns placed in front of you properly instead of reply with something like "are you blind? lmfao". this shit is just rude and immature.

all i ask is that you reply properly, actually acknowledging what crumpet is trying to say.

DDMythical wrote:

im 15

-- i'm quadposting now fucking deal with it

CrumpetFiddler wrote:

This mod inparticular expresses concerns with the map, most prominently the play-ability of the song during the kiai time which had some very valid points that absolutely could of been resolved or reasoned against.
Instead from all i can gather theres reluctance to change, or even consider change.

error_exe777 wrote:

oh god and kiai. ah kiai. if this didnt exist i wouldn't make this post but here i am. my god kiai is an absolute state. since you again charted vocals AND another synth sound thing it takes this feeling of lost emphasis to a whole new extent. it feels extremely overmapped to the point where it feels like an attempt at something cool but instead is a mess of LNs that contradicts the music. the song itself is very sharp and in a way sophisticated and by charting LNs it completely goes against what the song is trying to convey. if it was another keymode it would be less of a pain to play and chart but since its 4k you're stuck with the mess that is this section.

TheToaphster wrote:

Ok so I'm gonna make a response to some of the complaints that have been noted in recent posts, and while this isn't concerning my difficulty (which is pretty weird since I utilized a pretty similar mapping style and should probably be getting hit with some complaints too, which will probably bring me to one of the points I'll be making). Don't know if any of what I'm saying will really matter, or if I am articulating any of this properly, but I'll try.

The biggest problem with the map that I'm seeing people complain about is the kiai.

CrumpetFiddler wrote:

This mod inparticular expresses concerns with the map, most prominently the play-ability of the song during the kiai time which had some very valid points that absolutely could of been resolved or reasoned against.
Instead from all i can gather theres reluctance to change, or even consider change.

error_exe777 wrote:

oh god and kiai. ah kiai. if this didnt exist i wouldn't make this post but here i am. my god kiai is an absolute state. since you again charted vocals AND another synth sound thing it takes this feeling of lost emphasis to a whole new extent. it feels extremely overmapped to the point where it feels like an attempt at something cool but instead is a mess of LNs that contradicts the music. the song itself is very sharp and in a way sophisticated and by charting LNs it completely goes against what the song is trying to convey. if it was another keymode it would be less of a pain to play and chart but since its 4k you're stuck with the mess that is this section.

I'll take error_exe's statement first in which he makes the claim that by using LNs to represent the vocals and synth instead of going with regular notes for drums instead it takes away from the overall "sharpness" of the song. Lets say we take this into account, get rid of LNs, and replace it with some basic ass chords. There likely wouldn't be any more complicated rhythm than there already is, and would be arguably far more boring and unrepresentative of the "sharpness" that you think the LNs are taking away from it. Not only that, but the LNs, to me, help convey the sounds being played in the music much better than the simple chords would be able to.

Now for the fact that its a mess and unplayable in the kiai. This shouldn't be a complaint, honestly. A map being hard and uncomfortable to play isn't a reason to go against it, especially if the mapping is done in a way that represents the sounds well. This "lack of playability" thing is also an interesting argument to bring up because this might be the reason for something I mentioned earlier: no one is talking about my difficulty's use of LNs and how its not as sharp because of it or w/e. Obviously my difficulty is more playable/easier, since its supposed to be the hard and not the insane, and trying to nerf Achromatic's kiai section to a point where it is "playable" will likely ruin the difficulty spread, making the kiai's of two maps that are supposed to be noticeably different in difficulty rather similar. There was a comment about Ash's diff and how it was mapped "exactly how [error_exe] would map it." This kind of argument, with respect to the spread in general, isn't really particularly valid either I'd like to say. It is something to note, since it doesn't exactly line up with the mapping styles of the two difficulties above it, but we've already discussed that the LNs are making it less playable/more uncomfortable, and throwing those into a normal difficulty map would cause problems on its own.

Now then, there was also a statement that using LNs forces Noxus to avoid interesting/creative patterning, but im not quite sure how getting rid of LNs would, in any way, result in more creative/interesting patterns. Its all going to be basically the same rhythms and what not, so making the LNs should give way for more interesting patterns, not less. I would even argue that (going back to the comment about Ash's difficulty) mapping the kiai like that would be really boring and same-y.

For what I saw these were the main arguments, though I did just skim over the mods, so if there was anything I got wrong about the suggestions, I'm open to be wrong about it. This is just my opinion about the map and the style used, nothing is definitive. I just wanted to put my opinion out there and defend what I think is a map that is fine.
I'll finish off by saying (like everyone else) that I'm not trying to be aggressive or angry with anyone or say that they're stupid, just trying to keep a map from being torn apart and reduced to something really basic because of a lack of playability or uncomfortable patterns

qqqant wrote:

though i disagree with some patterns, the map generally follows the same concepts consistently - i do have a few small concerns, however. i'm aware that some patterns are likely intentional but these are just clarifications mostly

1. synth LNs don't distinguish between the shorter and longer synth sounds not exactly sure what you mean by this, but after checking through the maps, there are a few synth sounds that are over/underextended (at least in Noxus' diff, and probably also mine but I just skimmed through the maps), though I'll let him sort that out if he wants to change it.
2. end of vocal LNs not snapping to the end of the particular sound, rather, snapping to the beginning of the next vocal sound most of the time I think the vocals in the song transition like they are connected anyways, so having the LNs stretch to the next vocal sound usually isn't too much of a problem. Again, will let Noxus respond to this regarding his own map if he would like to
3. 00:11:948 (11948|0,12105|1) - the second sound clearly starts on the blue tick. i understand it's mapped as a regular note there but in toaph's diff, that sound is not mapped. this one I can respond to, and I stated something like this in one of the earlier mods, but since its a HD, I tried to avoid any triplet patterns like that while holding LNs to avoid any bursts with LN that might be seen as a diff spike. Not sure if its worth changing but I'd likely have to work with the rest of the map and add in triplets like that throughout if I changed it
4. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9902542 achromatic | toaph's hard - is this intentional?? no idea, should probably let Noxus handle this one
5. 00:57:184 (57184|1,57341|3,57498|1,57655|3,57812|1,57969|3,58126|1,58283|3,58440|1) - and 00:59:383 (59383|1,59540|2,59697|1,59854|2) - is there a reason for them to be mapped like this? Another thing Noxus would look at, but I think it might just be something he overlooked.
Not that its too big of a problem but we'll wait to see his response when he finds it

overall good map, i actually enjoyed the kiai aside from the fact that some of the LNs didn't really end when i expected them to haha
I'm sure Noxus will be glad to hear that, thanks for the suggestions! now we just wait for him to make his own response to this lol

have a star ig, cant really do much else lol