My Angel Kanan wrote:

surprise mod but only 1 diff tho

[easy]

1. maybe it's just me but 0.70x sv feels too slow what about 0.80x instead?
2. 00:08:919 (1,2) - make 1 a 1/1 slider and then ctrl+g sounds better. The current one ignores the melody here and the change would show what the song actually offers here
3. 00:19:044 - imo you don't need a gap here it sounds pretty empty and it's the kiai so having a gap here is kinda useless i guess?
4. 01:22:044 - ^
5. I'm not sure about the 2 circles in a row in the non-kiais something like this 00:30:669 (2,3) - doesn't work here. If you use that as a build-up it would be useless too because the music/melody doesn't increase at all while this 00:38:169 (4,5) - is okay tho
6. 01:14:169 (5) - idk what i should think about this. it doesn't fit with the music and the overall diff imo but on the other hand side this is okay because there is a sound which Supports the 1/2 reverse but sound isn't really that noticeable I think it would not fit with the music if there are no sounds that support the objects (which is 100% the case), imo these sounds really do stand out and are noticeable

It's a good diff already I came from newton-'s modding q btw
Gl with the map

everything else changed, helpful mod - thank you!

Lasse wrote:

normal-slidertick.wav unused removed

00:23:919 (1) - could use some finish

yea normal-hitfinish2 is the default one but that one has like 5ms delay, use:
http://puu.sh/y61Mx/9e1ad2adf7.wav

easy
00:50:919 (1,2) - this just looks a bit unorganized, I think same shape on both would be really cute
01:19:419 (4,5,6) - this one can be a bit misleading since same visual spacing and 4 leads more into 6. easy fix: https://i.imgur.com/DCZZc0S.jpg
01:36:294 (1) - would start earlier to make it feel more connected with the last click as there no distinct sound on start

normal
00:53:169 (6) - would be nice as just a circle since rhythm gets a bit dense for a less intense part


hard
00:11:919 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - something like https://i.imgur.com/Iq8e7XH.jpg should feel a bit more organized
00:21:481 (4,5) - tone this down a bit it looks easy to misread as 1/2 (~2ds maybe)
00:36:294 (2) - but why. something like https://i.imgur.com/0VcpJk0.jpg would work much better
00:50:544 (8,9,1) - could be less linear to make the spacing change nicer to play, like https://i.imgur.com/d6vA8ZS.jpg


insane
i think slightly lower ar would be really nice to play, like 8.5-8.7 8.7 sounds great
00:30:294 (2,3,4,5) - kinda overdone in a less intense part considering piano is 1/1 i nerfed the spacing by a tiny bit, i still think the piano sounds are kinda of strong, especially with the increasing pitch
01:20:919 (1) - feels like it lacks some connection to your other visuals with how you rotated it etc something like https://i.imgur.com/UiUk1Xo.jpg looks nicer imo and plays the same
00:22:419 (1,2,3,4) - 01:34:419 (1,2,3,4,5) - dont really get rhythm choice here since song doesnt emphasize red ticks, something like https://i.imgur.com/GHE2V6Z.jpg looks reasonable since 01:34:606 - this is the only red tick "clap" (idk how else to call it) in the kiai's i think emphasizing this sound makes sense because it is special and unique. also i think switching up the emphasis at the end of the kiai (i mapped a long the melody in the kiai and the last measure i mapped to the claps) is a neat addition for the variety in the map.


yea

Mir wrote:

my map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/681410 ill mod next 24h!

Insane
- 01:12:669 (3,5) - I think these finishes could have more emphasis on them since comparing them to 01:10:981 (5,6) - they feel very weak.
- 01:13:419 - If you're trying to follow drums I think ctrl g 01:13:419 (5,6) - would work nicely. Atm 01:13:419 (5) - covers two very strong sounds and 01:13:794 (6) - isn't really on anything. Fixing that would leave less filler.
- 01:16:981 (2,3) - Idk about you but in-game I felt these were quite weak. Maybe do two circles for 3?

Hard
- 00:16:794 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - What about doing something like https://i.imgur.com/hMHxvTP.png? If you agree, apply to all areas like this eg. 01:19:794 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - great idea, i like it a lot
- 00:36:294 (2) - Contrary to what Lasse said I feel like removing this entirely and doing a rhythm like this would fit the piano much better: https://i.imgur.com/jxOeT2l.png this spot is basically the same as 00:26:919 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - these. if i change rhythm there i should do it for all of them for the sake of consistency. but i feel like having a less dense rhythm and skip sounds in the Hard fits more to the overall spread
- 01:16:981 - Same, could have two circles for the snares instead of a slider since Normal has denser rhythm for this lol.

If you can provide a metadata link that would be nice. i cant find any offical sources for this track .. i can only relate to the ranked version of this song .. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/30956 but i know that this is no serious source

I spoke to Lasse beforehand and we're both fine with pushing this forward. Do let us know when you're ready!

everything unmentioned got changed,
Thank You so much both of you!!

Asaiga wrote:

you don't add ''vietnamese'' to tags? :'(

ASPIRIN wrote:

hello there

the mod

[Insane]
01:23:919 (1,1,1) - and 01:32:918 (1,1,1) - has a spacing like triplets, this can confusing. NC's indicate that this has different rhythm than the triple before, i wanna keep this because it forces the player to actually pay attention to the song (since the sounds are special)

In the rest there is nothing to complain about, this is the perfect difficulty!

[Hard]
01:15:856 (4,5,6) - just visual thing - on my opinion this looks strange dont think its a reason to change when it only comes up to personal perference

Yeap, nothing to add, everything is fine.

Perfect mapset, good luck in ranking! Thank You!

Incomp wrote:

The mapset is really good, but the Insane leaves a bad taste in my mouth in a few ways.

00:07:794 (1,1,1) - Why are these all new combos? i skip sounds and use a rhythm that is different from to music to emphasize a special piece of the music (along with the decreasing spacing although its 1/1 snapped), to indicate that I use NC's so the player instantly knows that this part is something different and special
00:10:231 (6,7) - There is no sound here. of course there is, you dont exactly hear it at 25% (you still do hear it) but there is clearly the piano (? im not musician i tihnk its piano) sound - i can even count it while listening at full speed that there are 3 sounds
00:20:919 (1,1,1) - The three 1/2 notes you have like this are, in my opinion, obnoxious. The spacing is the same as for the triplet that occurs a beat before this, and I can't see how the song supports it, let alone the new combo spam. Please consider revising. the NC spam is the same concept i mentioned before, to indicate the player that he has to pay attention on what actually is going on in the song (and no blind sightread). along with that this is used to empahsize those 3 sounds (since they seem really important and unique to me) in a special way. I'm 100% sure you didnt missread this while playing, even on first time and since it is consistent throughout the map I dont see an issue using this method. Yes, you dont see same visual spacing for different rhythm in the same pattern in many maps, but who says its forbidden if its used in a neat way?
00:23:544 (1,1) - Why are these both new combos? i think both sounds (the first for the clap and the following clap, and second for strong finsih and end of section) deserve special empahsis through NC
00:37:794 (5,6) - Why did you stray from using the triplets/kicksliders that you've already introduced? Unless I'm mistaken, this pattern isn't used anywhere else in the map, and there's no reason to change it up here. Hell, you even use a different pattern on the same sound at 00:31:794 (3) - . they are not 100% the same sounds. yes, they both share the same sound but each spot has an individual addition to that sound, while 00:31:794 (3) - has sounds that are also on 00:31:419 (1,2) - (so you get what sound i mean), 00:37:794 (5,6) - has important sounds on the red and white tick (so i use sliderend for thje middle blue tick because its not improtant). Also i want to have 00:37:231 (2,3,4) - and 00:37:794 (5,6) - being different because 00:37:231 (2,3,4) - has the loud piano sounds on it which fit perfectly with triple, unlike the other spot which only supports clickable objects on the red and white tick

There are things I personally disagree with, like the AR, HP, and some rhythm choices, but that stuff boils down to style, in most cases. Here, I just wanted to point out issues I think are pretty significant.

Incomp wrote:

New combos are used to distinguish different parts of the song. Using them to emphasize different, individual sounds (on their own) is not effective. Use spacing for that instead.

Your answers are further from satisfying than I thought they would be. It seems like you care more about getting this set ranked rather than improving it. Or maybe you're seeing something that I'm not.

Either way, it's not like I'm in position to do anything more than I already have. Best of luck with your future mapsets.

Its not my fault that you dont agree with my interpretation of the song, seriously.

Who says that NC can only be used to indicate sections of a song, and not in any other way?

Claiming that my one and only goal is to rank the mapset is very cheeky and disrespectful.

I'm really satisfied with how the mapset turned out (especially the Insane) and I don't see any improvements.

1. http://www.nhaccuatui.com/bai-hat/don-coi-truong-quynh-anh.ULDBf75KWbfA.html
2. https://youtu.be/K7-jf70SIac?t=12s (00:12)

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Sakurauchi Riko wrote:

I have no idea abut metadata stuff, especially on vietnamese song.. I took ranked versions of this song as reference which causes this chaos.
I'll try to contact someone to confirm it (i dont even know who yet) and potentially fix it

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/448090 this mapset uses similar metadata you offered, but also not the exact same.. so idk

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Kurai wrote:

So yes, you are actually right, you should copy the metadata from https://osu.ppy.sh/s/448090 (those metadata were approved by IamKwaN so they should be trustworthy even though the logs expired).

STCMXN_JPY wrote:

wow! congratulations! happy ranked!!