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Imouto koko

papapa213 wrote:

[一米四]
00:01:656 (4) - 别弧度这么大吧,不太好康 改了。
00:05:322 (1) - 这里是不是更适合逆flow?像你前面00:03:989 (1) - 这样,可能顺的也行,不过让它离远一点 改远了。
00:07:323 (4,5,6,7) - 这里的话,我听起来的感觉似乎应该ctrl+g一下,适合向上走的flow,它和00:06:656 (1,2,3) - 听起来是有点相似之处的,2,3的音越来越高,向上走,之后的4567也是越来越高,改成向上走或许更好一些 这地方本来就在最顶端了要拉个向上的不是丑了就是太远了,水平有限,不改了。
00:11:656 (6) - 或许转盘应该在这里开始? 不太合适,前面的音还没结束,优先考虑前面的吧。
00:15:989 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 这里我听起来感觉也和上面说的那个地方像是同一种,所以4567的摆法类似前面顺着单点比较好 本来是这样的,仔细听了听感觉3比4音高。
00:28:656 (3) - 改成滑条?00:25:989 (3) - 节奏上不跟人声的话,这里让它打起来感觉一致我觉得可能更好 这个没感觉出来……
00:31:323 (3) - ^
01:06:989 (2,3) - 衔接的地方音效有点脱线,这里的音感觉和01:05:989 (3,4,5,6,7) - 不是同一类,所以不太适合用一样的音效 改了,随便换了个重一点的。
Firika

papapa213 wrote:

[雷米]
00:11:823 (1) - 感觉音效不太适合 Fixed √
00:12:989 (1) - 这里突然加速,给人感觉上是后面间距会增大的样子,但是后面比较平缓,感觉不是很舒服,感觉之后的一段sv加大一些,或者这个滑条不要这么快可能会好一些 保留 只是觉得背景音的改变需要一个加速滑条体现...
00:34:656 (1,2) - 改成长滑条是不是好一些?前面有点激烈,长滑条能让人放松一下而且这里人声拉长也挺合曲 其实后面背景有3个音. 用1/2 slider+ note了,空着是有点不好... Fixed √
01:09:489 (1,2,3) - 放在356,36附近可能更舒服一些,这样的话01:08:989 (3,4,5) - 给人感觉是横着打,01:09:489 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 给人感觉是竖着来,我觉得比较清晰而且舒服 bdbf啪啪啪大师,之前我本来是想过,当时突然不会弄了...改了下flow,好多了... Fixed √
感谢啪啪啪的摸.~ :)
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Topic Starter
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papapa213 wrote:

[Easy]
00:04:989 (2) - ds,低难度好像误差应该在0.03以下 改了
[Normal]
00:09:323 (2) - 加nc然后去掉前面1的nc吧 嗯嗯改了
[Hard]
01:01:823 (2) - 音效有点脱线,建议换个清脆一点的声音,比如默认softwhistle,这里的音感觉和01:09:489 (4,5,6,7) - 不是同一类 好的
01:16:323 - 这里的话我是更习惯白线单点..我觉得这样有点怪 emm这一段是主vocal的 我觉得没什么问题
[主难度]
00:16:656 (3,4,5,6) - 这里的话,听起来感觉需要和00:15:989 (1,2) - 在读图上分开,这四个音应该让他视觉上就感觉出和前面不一样,建议把00:16:489 (2) - 叠在00:15:989 (1) - 尾巴下以区分 00:16:489 (2) - prev:x1.05 next:x1.80 已经在距离上做了区分了 我觉得这样足以
00:54:656 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 间距可以比前面的大一些 好的 在原来的间距上x了1.05
00:55:989 (1,1) - 没有什么特别需要强调的音,这里逆flow可能感觉不如顺的好 哦我的想法是这里歌词yu是四声 ki是一声 所以一个往下走 另一个往上走 我觉得还好
01:06:323 (1,2,3) - 01:11:489 (2,3,4) - 像是在打空气,感觉可以加个音效 嗯都加了
01:25:573 (2,3,4,5,6) - 其实这里可以玩音量渐增,感觉挺合曲的 改啦
01:35:781 (8,9,1) - 8应该在01:35:781 - ,然后从01:35:864 - 开始是一个1/8的三连 呃 我觉得在结尾没必要弄个1/8的来让玩家很不愉快 我看下蕾咪那个难度我想他那个下法是对的 我按那种下法改了
感谢摸图!
sahuang
给个摸

Easy
00:36:656 (3,1) - 这两个做的对称一下会好看很多,比如00:36:656 (3) - 横着翻一下当(1)
00:49:989 (3,1) - 这边的flow不是很顺,要么3的弧度大一点或者后面的滑条往下

Normal
01:26:489 - 建议加个圈,这边downbeat挺明显的
这个做的不错

Hard
00:36:989 (6) - 别touch hp bar
00:46:156 (3,2,4) - 可以做的对称一点,比如平行或者什么的(more aesthetics)
01:25:823 (2) - 折返的地方是重音,这样放打起来会不太舒服,建议变成圈+滑条然后圈stack滑条头
01:34:573 - 漏拍
01:35:823 (5) - 1/6吧

koko
00:15:989 (1,4) - very uncomfortable/messy overlap here
00:18:323 (5,1) - this is kind of misleading and will be easily mistaken as 1/4 reverses...i think you should try rotate it instead. Something like this: http://puu.sh/ySKnO/5acf79b280.jpg try to avoid overlap between 00:17:323 (1,5) -
00:19:989 (1,5,6,7) - due to stack leniency they are not perfectly stacked, please manually adjust them
00:21:989 (3) - i would expect a similar shape with 00:21:323 (1,2) -
00:28:323 (2) - rotate a bit for smoother angle
00:28:323 (2,3,4) - tricky pattern here, maybe NC 00:28:656 (3) - and 00:31:323 (3) - for better readability
00:30:156 (3) - simply use 00:29:823 (2) - and do a reflection
00:33:823 (4,5,6,7) - stacking issue as mentioned above
00:30:156 (3,4,1) - flow is extremely uncomfortable
00:44:156 (2,3) - parallel to each other?
00:56:489 (5,6,7,1) - increase the distance here a bit. Your previous 1/2 gaps are like 00:55:989 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
01:01:323 (1,2) - this spacing is more like 1/4 rather than 1/2 dude
01:07:823 (1,3) - swap NC
01:11:656 (4,1,2) - weird placement, try sth else that is less messy
01:34:573 - missing beat
Overall there are a lot of places that should be polished imo, the style is fine, just need more beauty lol

Oiso
00:31:489 (5,7) - 这边没鼓点也没vocal,感觉不需要跳
00:34:989 (2) - 请用滑条,间距也太小了,初见1/4
01:08:489 (2,3) - 这种间距也有点小
01:18:489 (1,3) - blanket
01:32:489 (3,6) - 别贴一起

主难度
00:09:989 - 提个建议,可以sv降一点用两个短一点的滑条,体现了音调的降低
00:23:989 (1,3) - 分开一点
00:26:322 (2,3) - g一下节奏就对了
00:29:323 (1) - 圈+滑条吧,1/1太简单了,这边vocal丰富一下
00:30:656 - clickable
00:31:156 (6,1,2,3) - 这边很难受的就是所有滑条尾反而是最重的音,最好把节奏改一下
00:33:323 - 这边也是,00:32:989 (4,1) - g一下
00:50:656 (1,2) - blanket
01:15:156 (3,4) - ctrl+G 节奏和flow都会好
01:18:156 (2,1) - 节奏反一下,其实01:18:656 - 才是开始
01:18:489 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 个人不支持无脑这样摆,这边音乐并不是一模一样的哒哒哒哒,比如01:19:489 - 其实没什么音,还是一个程度的跳就很没意思了
01:30:823 (2,3,4) - 可以做得更好看一些,现在的间距不好,还有其实01:31:656 - 做成单点会更好
01:31:823 (1) - remove NC
01:33:156 (1,2,3) - 可以做的更顺手自然一些http://puu.sh/ySL5A/9823217e10.jpg

总的来说作为1st已经挺好了,你改了我再看看吧,koko的可以再找一两个摸
Imouto koko

sahuang wrote:

koko
00:15:989 (1,4) - very uncomfortable/messy overlap here 转了个角度。
00:18:323 (5,1) - this is kind of misleading and will be easily mistaken as 1/4 reverses...i think you should try rotate it instead. Something like this: http://puu.sh/ySKnO/5acf79b280.jpg try to avoid overlap between 00:17:323 (1,5) - 方向换了。
00:19:989 (1,5,6,7) - due to stack leniency they are not perfectly stacked, please manually adjust them 做完忘了检查了,改了。
00:21:989 (3) - i would expect a similar shape with 00:21:323 (1,2) - 感觉直着接note跳会比较符合读图。
00:28:323 (2) - rotate a bit for smoother angle 改了。
00:28:323 (2,3,4) - tricky pattern here, maybe NC 00:28:656 (3) - and 00:31:323 (3) - for better readability 有道理。
00:30:156 (3) - simply use 00:29:823 (2) - and do a reflection 感觉没必要?00:29:323 (1,3) - 这样的形状/overlap感觉比较舒服。
00:33:823 (4,5,6,7) - stacking issue as mentioned above 嗯嗯改了。
00:30:156 (3,4,1) - flow is extremely uncomfortable 滑条换了个方向,可能好点了。
00:44:156 (2,3) - parallel to each other? 这个平行的话折返可能不那么明显,但是略微的错位也有点丑,先加大了一些角度稍微好看一点了。
00:56:489 (5,6,7,1) - increase the distance here a bit. Your previous 1/2 gaps are like 00:55:989 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 换了个地方放连打了。
01:01:323 (1,2) - this spacing is more like 1/4 rather than 1/2 dude 唔,稍微拉大了一点,感觉全图的1/4还是挺清晰的都有overlap了。
01:07:823 (1,3) - swap NC 改了。
01:11:656 (4,1,2) - weird placement, try sth else that is less messy 拉开了不overlap了。
01:34:573 - missing beat 补了。
Overall there are a lot of places that should be polished imo, the style is fine, just need more beauty lol thx!
very helpful. thx for mod!

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Firika

sahuang wrote:

给个摸
Oiso
00:31:489 (5,7) - 这边没鼓点也没vocal,感觉不需要跳 7有vocal上扬 这个跳留着了,5那个改了 √
00:34:989 (2) - 请用滑条,间距也太小了,初见1/4 改了 √
01:08:489 (2,3) - 这种间距也有点小改了 √
01:18:489 (1,3) - blanket 改了 √
01:32:489 (3,6) - 别贴一起 改了(换了个角度) √
感谢给皇的摸,很有用 ;)
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Topic Starter
Dored

sahuang wrote:

给个摸

Easy
00:36:656 (3,1) - 这两个做的对称一下会好看很多,比如00:36:656 (3) - 横着翻一下当(1) Fixed
00:49:989 (3,1) - 这边的flow不是很顺,要么3的弧度大一点或者后面的滑条往下 Fixed

Normal
01:26:489 - 建议加个圈,这边downbeat挺明显的 Fixed
这个做的不错 谢谢

Hard
00:36:989 (6) - 别touch hp bar Fixed
00:46:156 (3,2,4) - 可以做的对称一点,比如平行或者什么的(more aesthetics) Fixed
01:25:823 (2) - 折返的地方是重音,这样放打起来会不太舒服,建议变成圈+滑条然后圈stack滑条头 Fixed
01:34:573 - 漏拍 Fixed
01:35:823 (5) - 1/6吧 这个改了是改了 但是我听的是1/8 后面oiso和主难度也用了1/8 请再听一下

主难度
00:09:989 - 提个建议,可以sv降一点用两个短一点的滑条,体现了音调的降低 Fixed
00:23:989 (1,3) - 分开一点 Fixed
00:26:322 (2,3) - g一下节奏就对了 Fixed
00:29:323 (1) - 圈+滑条吧,1/1太简单了,这边vocal丰富一下 Fixed
00:30:656 - clickable Fixed
00:31:156 (6,1,2,3) - 这边很难受的就是所有滑条尾反而是最重的音,最好把节奏改一下 嗯这一段节奏基本都改了一下
00:33:323 - 这边也是,00:32:989 (4,1) - g一下 Fixed
00:50:656 (1,2) - blanket Fixed
01:15:156 (3,4) - ctrl+G 节奏和flow都会好 Fixed
01:18:156 (2,1) - 节奏反一下,其实01:18:656 - 才是开始 Fixed
01:18:489 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 个人不支持无脑这样摆,这边音乐并不是一模一样的哒哒哒哒,比如01:19:489 - 其实没什么音,还是一个程度的跳就很没意思了 目前这种摆法感觉相对整洁一些 我现在摆变距跳相对有些吃力 摆出来的感觉有些乱 暂且没改
01:30:823 (2,3,4) - 可以做得更好看一些,现在的间距不好,还有其实01:31:656 - 做成单点会更好 Fixed
01:31:823 (1) - remove NC Fixed
01:33:156 (1,2,3) - 可以做的更顺手自然一些http://puu.sh/ySL5A/9823217e10.jpg Fixed

总的来说作为1st已经挺好了,你改了我再看看吧,koko的可以再找一两个摸
Thanks for mod!
buhei
irc with koko
17:07 buhei: :
17:07 Imouto koko: 喵
17:07 *Imouto koko is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1504949 Ceui - Haruoto*Veil [koko's Insane]]
17:09 buhei: 00:09:323 (1,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
17:10 buhei: 好像不是正六边形
17:10 Imouto koko: 唔
17:10 buhei: 00:10:323 (7) - 这个明显高了一点
17:10 Imouto koko: 应该不是随手摆的
17:10 buhei: 那你看看
17:11 Imouto koko: 总之重新摆一下好了
17:11 buhei: 就造正三角形一个一个比对一下就行
17:11 buhei: 我感觉可能就是这个7有点高了
17:11 buhei: 00:14:823 (2) - 这个怎么讲 我个人觉得不太好看
17:14 Imouto koko: 唔
17:14 Imouto koko: 只是好看问题的话那就不管了,我觉得挺好看pwp
17:15 buhei: 00:19:906 -
17:16 buhei: 漏了鼓
17:17 Imouto koko: emmmm
17:19 buhei: 00:21:323 (1,2,3,4,5) -
17:20 buhei: 怎么说
17:20 buhei: 我觉得这里放单点可能更好点
17:20 Imouto koko: 那就不太会摆了,这种节奏
17:20 buhei: 毕竟鼓这么重
17:20 buhei: 给人的感觉应该是7个单点+1个长滑条这样的
17:20 Imouto koko: 鼓重的话,单点拉不开间距啊
17:21 buhei: 前面那个漏鼓的问题你打算解决吗
17:21 buhei: 其实不管也行
17:21 Imouto koko: 看了半天不想改……实在是不会改了……
17:28 buhei: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9927042
17:28 buhei: 我觉得这样就行啊
17:29 buhei: 改成单点的话
17:31 Imouto koko: 嗯……和我预期的感觉不太一样吧
17:31 Imouto koko: 我觉得慢慢变大的移动效果好一点
17:31 buhei: 慢慢变大那就两个一组
17:31 Imouto koko: 就是最后全屏这样
17:32 Imouto koko: 两个一组全屏太难了
17:33 Imouto koko: pwp
17:33 buhei: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9927058
17:34 buhei: 如果你不介意提高星数其实最后的78还能更大
17:34 Imouto koko: 介意的……
17:35 Imouto koko: 看了看
17:35 Imouto koko: 实在不符合我想要的效果orz
17:35 Imouto koko: 这段别看了吧
17:35 buhei: 看你想要怎样的flow
17:35 buhei: 转圈的还是反复横跳还是怎样
17:35 Imouto koko: 就是直线的全屏移动
17:36 Imouto koko: 不转圈也不折返
17:36 Imouto koko: 锐角那种
17:37 buhei: 像dear nemis一样的那种?
17:37 buhei: 00:33:823 (4) -
17:37 Imouto koko: 。这还有例子吗
17:37 buhei: 加clap
17:37 Imouto koko: 就是pp跳那种啊
17:38 Imouto koko: 加了
17:38 buhei: 00:41:156 (1) - 删finish
17:38 Imouto koko: 删了
17:38 buhei: 00:39:823 - 这里的finish
17:38 Imouto koko: 删了?
17:38 buhei: 其实背景的鼓是在00:39:989 -
17:39 buhei: 你如果不介意把finish放在滑条尾的话
17:39 buhei: 就改吧
17:39 buhei: 介意的话emm其实问题也不大
17:39 Imouto koko: 唔
17:39 Imouto koko: 这里音效其实是因为人声才下的
17:39 Imouto koko: 那个鼓感觉不用finish
17:40 buhei: 知道是因为人声
17:40 buhei: 这里其实还行
17:40 buhei: 刚让你删的地方是因为用太多了
17:41 buhei: 00:42:656 - 这个你把左上角改成Drum然后音效改成clap试试
17:41 buhei: 看看满不满意
17:41 Imouto koko: 挺好的,改了
17:42 buhei: 00:44:156 (2) -
17:43 buhei: 有点打空气
17:43 Imouto koko: 唔
17:43 Imouto koko: 节奏是这样的
17:44 Imouto koko: 但是空着觉得不太舒服
17:44 buhei: 00:44:156 - 那你在这加个whistle吧
17:44 buhei: 虽然没啥用
17:45 Imouto koko: 感觉不加干脆让它空气也挺好的……
17:45 buhei: 00:44:156 -
17:45 buhei: 从这开始的每个白线我建议都要有个鼓
17:46 Imouto koko: 诶?
17:46 Imouto koko: 是不是复制错了
17:46 buhei: 是
17:46 buhei: 00:51:323 (2) -
17:46 buhei: 233
17:47 Imouto koko: 用什么鼓呢,clap么
17:47 buhei: 你可以用clpa
17:47 buhei: clap
17:47 buhei: 也可以考虑用那个自定义音效的whistle
17:48 buhei: S:C1
17:48 buhei: 那个
17:48 buhei: whistle和clap交替用
17:48 buhei: 可以
17:48 Imouto koko: 唔
17:49 buhei: 或者你都用clap也行
17:49 buhei: 我听了一下效果还行
17:49 buhei: 00:51:656 (4) - 00:51:989 - 00:52:323 - 00:52:989 -
17:49 buhei: 这些地方加上clap
17:49 Imouto koko: 嗯改了
17:50 buhei: 00:59:656 (2,1,2,3,4) -
17:50 buhei: 有点别扭
17:50 Imouto koko: 诶
17:50 buhei: 00:59:656 (2,1) -
17:51 buhei: 飞得好远
17:51 buhei: 而且这个角度也怪怪的
17:52 Imouto koko: 唔
17:52 Imouto koko: 没太好的想法
17:53 buhei: 间距太大了
17:54 buhei: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9927123
17:55 Imouto koko: 我稍微拉进了一点
17:55 Imouto koko: 拉近*
17:55 Imouto koko: 你这个形状感觉有点不太顺后面的2
17:55 buhei: 还行吧
17:55 Imouto koko: 我还是改成折返箭头在上面的了,稍微弯了一下
17:56 buhei: 那样就会有点丑 主要
17:56 Imouto koko: 不太理解这种丑……
17:56 buhei: 感觉你的finish假的有点乱诶
17:56 buhei: 加的
17:56 Imouto koko: 不都是我加的
17:56 Imouto koko: 直接复制的主难度音效,我基本就补了点默认whistle
17:56 buhei: 01:11:989 (1) -
17:57 buhei: 你这个看起来下面的部分很扭
17:57 buhei: 你让它自己能和自己对称
17:57 Imouto koko: 可能是角度问题,一开始没转这么多的我觉得挺好看的
17:57 buhei: 四个白点ABCD
17:58 buhei: AB和CD平行且相等一下
17:58 buhei: 至少相等一下
17:58 buhei: 然后∠ABC和∠BCD最好差不多
17:58 Imouto koko: 改好了
17:58 buhei: hhh
17:59 buhei: 01:15:489 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) -
17:59 Imouto koko: 。
17:59 buhei: 是这样的
17:59 buhei: 你这个全部选中以后看起来是挺好看的
17:59 buhei: 但是打的时候第一感觉是
17:59 buhei: 01:15:489 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 这个形状很怪
18:00 buhei: 读图的时候感觉也一般把这几个放在一起读
18:00 buhei: 所以看起来就像是拱形往右边偏了
18:00 buhei: 你自己看一下吧
18:02 Imouto koko: 改了一下
18:03 buhei: 01:34:657 (1,2,3,4,5) -
18:03 buhei: emmm
18:03 buhei: 你是想做pp跳是吗
18:04 Imouto koko: 不是
18:04 Imouto koko: pp跳有星数
18:04 Imouto koko: 我只想做锐角全屏的移动
18:04 Imouto koko: 就是pp跳那种感觉的
18:04 buhei: 那不可能啊
18:04 Imouto koko: 所以滑条就可能了啊
18:04 buhei: 除非你把sv搞到3
18:04 Imouto koko: 这已经是我要的感觉了啊
18:05 buhei: 行吧
18:05 buhei: 那就这么多
Yugu
面4面

Imoto koko
SL可以再开高点,0.5对于I来说有点..
00:03:489 (5) - 放远点,00:02:989 (3,4,5) - 他们的间距太相似了
00:35:823 (6,1) - 觉得你1/1模式太多变了,前面的1/1你都是摆的有偏移的00:26:656 (1,2) - 00:28:656 (1,2,1) - ,到这里突然stack,但是这里00:37:323 (1,2) - 又拉开了,其实我就建议你把00:35:823 (6,1) - 的弄成跟前面一样的规律就好了
01:25:989 (6,1) - 连打后的1/1stack其实不太友善

你的音效下的貌似有问题,例如:这四个note的部分00:35:323 (3,4,5,6) - 这三个note的鼓是同一种鼓00:35:323 (3,5,6) - 但是00:35:656 (5) - 却用了clap,00:35:489 (4) - 却用了代表00:35:323 - 的鼓的whistle。00:39:323 - 和00:39:323 - 的鼓也没有下,前面开头段的音效我也不知道你怎么下的,可能你需要重新下音效

Alice Gram
00:09:989 (3,4) - 这里音乐是减弱的为什么间距反而增大了,你这都降低sv了说明你也是认为是减弱的啊
00:53:323 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 太梗了吧,我觉得00:54:656 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 可以增大间距,或者这段跳做成一个渐大间距的跳
01:18:656 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 学什么不好非要学这种难打的上下折返跳(
01:19:656 (1,2) - 歪了,这个如果肌肉记忆了前6个跳的话,最后2个跳规律没跟上怕是很容易miss

海星
Topic Starter
Dored

Yugu wrote:

面4面

Alice Gram
00:09:989 (3,4) - 这里音乐是减弱的为什么间距反而增大了,你这都降低sv了说明你也是认为是减弱的啊 改了
00:53:323 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 太梗了吧,我觉得00:54:656 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 可以增大间距,或者这段跳做成一个渐大间距的跳
其实后面八个本来就比前面八个大了一点 这样的话就再适当增大了点 至于梗什么的 进kiai部分通常就是难点所在 我觉得稍微难一点也无妨
01:18:656 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 学什么不好非要学这种难打的上下折返跳( 我觉得挺好打(
01:19:656 (1,2) - 歪了,这个如果肌肉记忆了前6个跳的话,最后2个跳规律没跟上怕是很容易miss vocal在这里停顿了一下 前面几个跳是上半句 从这里开始是下半句 所以转变了一下 我觉得没有问题

海星
感谢摸图!
Firika
Fixed some hitsounds

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Imouto koko

Yugu wrote:

Imoto koko
SL可以再开高点,0.5对于I来说有点.. 这个的高低应该不会影响我这张图,不过习惯性改0.3了先。
00:03:489 (5) - 放远点,00:02:989 (3,4,5) - 他们的间距太相似了 改了。
00:35:823 (6,1) - 觉得你1/1模式太多变了,前面的1/1你都是摆的有偏移的00:26:656 (1,2) - 00:28:656 (1,2,1) - ,到这里突然stack,但是这里00:37:323 (1,2) - 又拉开了,其实我就建议你把00:35:823 (6,1) - 的弄成跟前面一样的规律就好了 唔,其实是挺有逻辑的,比较强烈的停顿和多边形会原地,其余带flow就拉开了。
01:25:989 (6,1) - 连打后的1/1stack其实不太友善 触手路上必经的挑战吧(远目)。

你的音效下的貌似有问题,例如:这四个note的部分00:35:323 (3,4,5,6) - 这三个note的鼓是同一种鼓00:35:323 (3,5,6) - 但是00:35:656 (5) - 却用了clap,00:35:489 (4) - 却用了代表00:35:323 - 的鼓的whistle。00:39:323 - 和00:39:323 - 的鼓也没有下,前面开头段的音效我也不知道你怎么下的,可能你需要重新下音效 这里就是平常的2/4clap,没想太多其实……
sahuang
Recheck

koko
01:18:656 (3,4,5,6,1,2) - 这边一堆滑条完全无法体现音乐的多样性,我觉得还是改改节奏比较好。
01:31:739 - 这边也有鼓,要不5做个kick?

主难度
00:09:989 (3) - NC
顺便1212那边确实不太好,实在不行01:19:323 (1,2) - 用滑条吧
Imouto koko

sahuang wrote:

Recheck

koko
01:18:656 (3,4,5,6,1,2) - 这边一堆滑条完全无法体现音乐的多样性,我觉得还是改改节奏比较好。 把后面两个滑条换成note来强调了加重的鼓了。
01:31:739 - 这边也有鼓,要不5做个kick? 改啦。
thx for mod!

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Topic Starter
Dored

sahuang wrote:

Recheck

主难度
00:09:989 (3) - NC Fixed
顺便1212那边确实不太好,实在不行01:19:323 (1,2) - 用滑条吧 Fixed
Thanks for mod!
sahuang
Seems good to me as the first map going for rank. Good luck ^^
Topic Starter
Dored
Thanks for bubbled!
Kencho
[Normal]
  1. 01:29:156 (1,1) - DS遠了

[koko's Insane]
  1. 00:14:823 (2) - 好奇妙的形狀啊,然而還不如直接三點滑條包好1,現在這樣不美觀
  2. 00:51:989 (1) - 物件超出屏幕了
  3. 整體來說還行,不過小細節就不吐槽了,就是大致的質量還有點進步空間的意思,特別是物件之間的結合性和flow方面

[Oiso's Insane]
  1. 00:23:656 (3,4,5,6,1) - 有點難打,不考慮再縮小一下間距嗎
  2. 01:28:489 (3,5) - overlap了
  3. 三角形大法好

[Alice Gram]
  1. 00:13:656 (2,1) - 沒疊好
  2. 00:18:656 (1,4) - ^
  3. 很整潔的排版,好
其他難度都大致沒問題。圖很不錯,現在新人作圖這麼厲害的嗎,我都快跟不上時代了
Firika

Kencho wrote:

[Oiso's Insane]
  1. 00:23:656 (3,4,5,6,1) - 有點難打,不考慮再縮小一下間距嗎 嗯... DS是1,而且其实移动可以画的很小就可以打,不像直线串一定要移动很大,就不改了吧... 看很多人打的时候基本不会在这里断掉(
  2. 01:28:489 (3,5) - overlap了 Fixed √
  3. 三角形大法好 三角形大法好
谢摸 :)
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Topic Starter
Dored

Kencho wrote:

[Normal]
  1. 01:29:156 (1,1) - DS遠了


[Alice Gram]
  1. 00:13:656 (2,1) - 沒疊好
  2. 00:18:656 (1,4) - ^
  3. 很整潔的排版,好
其他難度都大致沒問題。圖很不錯,現在新人作圖這麼厲害的嗎,我都快跟不上時代了
All fixed!Thanks for mod!感谢大佬的夸奖 我还有很多不足的地方还要学习 我会继续努力的
Imouto koko

Kencho wrote:

[koko's Insane]
  1. 00:14:823 (2) - 好奇妙的形狀啊,然而還不如直接三點滑條包好1,現在這樣不美觀 本意是想通过一个红点表现曲调的变化的,不过还是改了。
  2. 00:51:989 (1) - 物件超出屏幕了 改啦。
  3. 整體來說還行,不過小細節就不吐槽了,就是大致的質量還有點進步空間的意思,特別是物件之間的結合性和flow方面
thx for mod! :)

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MaridiuS
Oiso Insane

01:00:656 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - I really have trouble understanding why you used 2 1/4 sliders. It is not consistent with anything in the kiai, and also doesn't seem like it follows this part that well :-/
01:01:239 (8) - Also this is an overmap, by doing a triple and a jump to 01:01:323 (1) - you will emphasize it better too.

otherwise cute set.
Firika

MaridiuS wrote:

Oiso Insane

01:00:656 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - I really have trouble understanding why you used 2 1/4 sliders. It is not consistent with anything in the kiai, and also doesn't seem like it follows this part that well :-/ Maybe not the best choice, you're right. FIXED √
01:01:239 (8) - Also this is an overmap, by doing a triple and a jump to 01:01:323 (1) - you will emphasize it better too. FIXED √

Thanks for modding, its so helpful :)
Oiso's Insane
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417,193,86489,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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sahuang
good to go
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Thank sahuang and Kencho.I'm delighted to see my first map be qualified!
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gratz!
papapa213
大哥牛逼,大哥抽烟
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Log Off Now wrote:

gratz!
Thank you!!!
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papapa213 wrote:

大哥牛逼,大哥抽烟
还是啪啪啪大哥比较强 我这小菜笔不敢当啊
Binguo
留名
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Binguo wrote:

留名
老公
Ametrin
niubi
Nao Tomori
why is imouto in tags twice dq dq dq!!!!!
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Ametrin wrote:

niubi
您是神仙
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Naotoshi wrote:

why is imouto in tags twice dq dq dq!!!!!
emm...The GDer Imouto koko's previous ID is Imouto OuO,I just put them in tags.I forget that it's repeat lol.Don't dq plz,onegai! :cry:
Karen
我觉得海星
新人一个比一个niubi,鬼知道我新人的时候都经历了些什么做一堆laji
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Karen wrote:

我觉得海星
新人一个比一个niubi,鬼知道我新人的时候都经历了些什么做一堆laji
哇人格大佬 感谢夸奖 您太谦虚了
sahuang

Karen wrote:

我觉得海星
新人一个比一个niubi,鬼知道我新人的时候都经历了些什么做一堆laji
+1
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sahuang wrote:

Karen wrote:

我觉得海星
新人一个比一个niubi,鬼知道我新人的时候都经历了些什么做一堆laji
+1
萨皇爷爷 感谢首泡和首心 磕头膜拜.jpg
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