PeterEU wrote:

Hard

I know you will decline everything lol the fact that I'm a BN doesn't mean I will reject everything, it just depends on how beneficial your findings are~
00:10:382 (1) - tbh i don't like placement of this slider maybe something like this would be better http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9273541 Well, the current flow is fine, I don't see why you dislike it. Plus I'm making a small jump and your suggestion requires a bigger one~
00:16:782 (1) - make this slider straight http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9273551 There's no benefit or improvement from that, seems to be just a design preference; however, I kinda followed your suggestion and used a straight slider as a reflection of 00:18:382 (1) - cuz ye it looks prettier

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Pozy wrote:

Due to me being more new to mapping and and have a different mapping style than many mappers ill just point out some things that i think would look better and a thing that i think would improve the flow.

00:26:382 (1,2,3,4) i would place the kicksliders like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9277633 I do not think it's worth it, because there is a circular flow

and then have the first circle of the triange on 00:27:982 (1) be at the same place as the sliderend on the second last kickslider: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9277646
i think that would improve the flow (at least for me) ^

00:35:182 (3,4) i would change those sliders in to a stream like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9277658 I think that the sliders are better than the sound here

00:47:982 (3,4) same here: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9277660 ^

00:52:382 (1) i would change this kickslider in to a stream because its easy to break on for worse players who play this star diff: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9277666 I did not change this, because I hear rapid sounds, but changed the location
and with that, move 00:52:782 (1,2,3,4) a little down so its not so compact c: Fix it

Vodka

00:09:382 (3) - тут на этом звуке поставил кружок , а на этом 00:08:982 - пусто, хотя там и стоит тот же звук. Поставь кружок пжл.
00:08:582 (9,1) - алсо этот стак играется плохо. Даже если откажешься поставить круг на пустом месте который я указал свыше пожалуйста сделай спейсы между этими кругами. Обычно стаки ставят по одинаковым по силе звукам, тогда они и играются хорошо. 00:08:782 (1) - но этот по звуку куда сильнее предыдущего. Идеально будет если ты поставишь круг здесь 00:08:982 - и сделаешь из этих кругов полноценный паттерн 00:08:582 (9,1,2,3) - .

00:14:982 (9,1,2) - ^

00:05:382 (9,1) - этот стак в принципе можно оставить т.к логика музыки не будет требовать спейса 00:05:582 (1,2,3) - , хотя по прежнему стак для меня он неудобен .

00:11:782 (9,1,2,3) - ^

00:09:582 (4,5,6,7) - это скорее личная придирка. Я понимаю что твоя диффа не сложная по задумке . Но все равно в это не приятно играть когда 00:09:982 (6,7) - они по звуку конкретно громче, сильнее и отличаются от 00:09:582 (4,5) - . Думаю просто принцип змейки тут не пойдет...В идеале надо было делать их структуру так чтобы они максимально передавали музыку. Ну , ты сам знай.

00:39:982 (1,2,3,4) - ^ тут бы тоже усложнил структуру в угоду передачи музыки

00:19:382 (6,7,8) - поколдуй над их углами чтобы спейсанутая тройка смотрела по направлению 00:19:182 (5) - . Для большей эстетики. 00:18:782 (2,3,4) - например это тройка смотрит на "5" идеально.

00:30:782 (7) - этот звук на белом тике заслуживает куда больше спейсинга т.к по звуку он куда сильнее остальных звуков на белом тике 00:29:582 (1,3,5,7) -

00:32:382 (7) - ^ вот такому же аналогу ты уже передал больший спейсинг...

00:37:182 (7) - ^ больше спейса

00:29:582 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 00:35:982 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - а вообще стоит довести структуру этих джампов до более идеального состояния..Думаю они все еще не достаточно хороши.

00:42:382 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,1,2,3,4) - вот начиная отсюда в принципе все близко к идеалу. Мне не к чему придраться.




ezek Hard
is perfect!


Normal

00:40:582 - хз, думаю тут всё таки надо поставить круг.. Это как бы конечный бёрст перед паузой. Так что консистенсию это не нарушит. 00:40:582 - и какую нибудь логику для игнорирования этого звука я не вижу.

00:53:382 - ^

00:52:182 - тут думаю ты тоже пропустил кружок.

Ну в целом тут считай так себе придирки. И без моих замечаний диффа довольная хороша и ранкабельна. Так что можешь на всё забить.

Easy is ok

m3gB3g wrote:

Zdravstvuy Comrade
My bear ask me for mod. So im here. Mod gonna be short or my personal home nuclear reactor gonna blow half of mother Russia..


General

Думаю лучше добавить ник гд в бг, ты ведь не один весь мапсет сделал. Спрошу это про у езека, вдруг ему это не так важно да и я не знаю куда можно присобачить

Vodka

00:09:382 (3) - тут на этом звуке поставил кружок , а на этом 00:08:982 - пусто, хотя там и стоит тот же звук. Поставь кружок пжл. Тот звук на который ты указал, не так сильльно выражен с тем который ты сравнил! Но если еще кто-нибудь напишет поставлю
00:08:582 (9,1) - алсо этот стак играется плохо. Даже если откажешься поставить круг на пустом месте который я указал свыше пожалуйста сделай спейсы между этими кругами. Обычно стаки ставят по одинаковым по силе звукам, тогда они и играются хорошо. 00:08:782 (1) - но этот по звуку куда сильнее предыдущего. Идеально будет если ты поставишь круг здесь 00:08:982 - и сделаешь из этих кругов полноценный паттерн 00:08:582 (9,1,2,3) - . Сделал

00:14:982 (9,1,2) - ^ ^

00:05:382 (9,1) - этот стак в принципе можно оставить т.к логика музыки не будет требовать спейса 00:05:582 (1,2,3) - , хотя по прежнему стак для меня он неудобен . ^

00:11:782 (9,1,2,3) - ^ ^

00:09:582 (4,5,6,7) - это скорее личная придирка. Я понимаю что твоя диффа не сложная по задумке . Но все равно в это не приятно играть когда 00:09:982 (6,7) - они по звуку конкретно громче, сильнее и отличаются от 00:09:582 (4,5) - . Думаю просто принцип змейки тут не пойдет...В идеале надо было делать их структуру так чтобы они максимально передавали музыку. Ну , ты сам знай. Сделал спейс по выростанию

00:39:982 (1,2,3,4) - ^ тут бы тоже усложнил структуру в угоду передачи музыки Тут особо ничего не изменил, только сделал первые 2 слайдеры с углом

00:19:382 (6,7,8) - поколдуй над их углами чтобы спейсанутая тройка смотрела по направлению 00:19:182 (5) - . Для большей эстетики. 00:18:782 (2,3,4) - например это тройка смотрит на "5" идеально. Фиксанул

00:30:782 (7) - этот звук на белом тике заслуживает куда больше спейсинга т.к по звуку он куда сильнее остальных звуков на белом тике 00:29:582 (1,3,5,7) - фиксанул

00:32:382 (7) - ^ вот такому же аналогу ты уже передал больший спейсинг... ^

00:37:182 (7) - ^ больше спейса ^

00:29:582 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 00:35:982 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - а вообще стоит довести структуру этих джампов до более идеального состояния..Думаю они все еще не достаточно хороши. Фиксану

00:42:382 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,1,2,3,4) - вот начиная отсюда в принципе все близко к идеалу. Мне не к чему придраться.




ezek Hard
is perfect!


Normal

00:40:582 - хз, думаю тут всё таки надо поставить круг.. Это как бы конечный бёрст перед паузой. Так что консистенсию это не нарушит. 00:40:582 - и какую нибудь логику для игнорирования этого звука я не вижу. Оке

00:53:382 - ^ ^

00:52:182 - тут думаю ты тоже пропустил кружок. Тут нету звука

Ну в целом тут считай так себе придирки. И без моих замечаний диффа довольная хороша и ранкабельна. Так что можешь на всё забить.

Easy is ok

Davai davai Rush Rank don't stop! AND STAY AWAY FROM MY VODKA CYKABLYAT!

m3gB3g wrote:

ezek Hard
is perfect! sounds good!

Update

1. 00:06:382 (1) - I don't agree with the placement of that slider. You decided to use a long slider, that cover a clap that should've been mapped, since it's similar to the beat that are mapped by that slider: 00:05:582 (3) - so why not doing the same thing? Furthermore, at the end of this slider: 00:06:382 (1) - there is a bit that needs to be mapped, since it's an important one, so it cannot be avoided. Here is my suggestion
   
2. 00:08:782 (3) - Would be better to make same as here since using a 3/2 reverse slider here is not a good idea, cause it's not focus on claps, and it can confuse the player, so for an Easy, try to keep the most basic rhythm, to avoid disturbing them.
   
3. 00:12:782 (4) - As I said previously here 00:06:382 (1) - , that's not a good idea to make that beat on a sliderend. It would be a way better, and more easy to understand for a beginner, as a clickable beat, as you did before, with a circle. That sound is too important to make it on a sliderend.
   
4. 00:19:982 (1,3) - I don't recommand you to make those stacks. It can be misleading for a beginner player, especially cause they're perfectly stacks, so the player might not see the difference. Moreover, this is wrote in the Ranking Criteria, that it shouldn't be stacked.
   
5. I'm not a big fan of those 3/2 sliders in the kiai. To be honest, I think it would be better to have this as a long slider instead, like this. I'll list you the slider that are concerned by this. (The only one that is fitting well with the song is this one: 00:51:982 (3) - )
   
   1. 00:34:382 (3) -
   2. 00:39:182 (3) - (especially this one cause I feel it's not following the main beat at all)
   3. 00:47:182 (3) -
6. 00:46:782 (2) - This beat is not respecting the DS like the other notes, don't forget to fix this.

1. From here 00:16:782 (1) - you can try to add some diversified pattern. This is mostly based on double 1/2 sliders. I list you my suggestions.
   
   1. Suggestion 1
   2. Suggestion 2
   3. Suggestion 3 (that might be quite hard for this, but you can still try!)
2. 00:38:982 (2,3) - I'm not a big fan of this pattern, I think that the turn is not really fitting well, and it's quite harming the flow. This could be more beautiful/easier to play with the flow.
   
3. 00:31:982 (5,1,2) - It's kind of same for here, I think that the pattern isn't really clean. In my opinion, the placement for this one feels quite random, so I think that could be better to move this object, and his sliderbody, to make something more nice. Here is my suggestion (it's a suggestion, you're not forced to make it, but I highly recommand you to change this pattern.)
   
4. 00:47:982 (2,3,4) - Why not converting this slider into a reverse? To me it looks more logic to have this as a reverse instead than 3 clicking circles. If you don't want, give me your opinion, that interest me.

1. 00:31:582 (2,3,4,5) - I think that this can be misleading a bit, since you have the same stack but with a different gap before here 00:31:082 (5,1) - . The player might click too fast here and fail or having 100. In my opinion, that would be okay if they would have been more spaced in the timeline, but this time there close from each other. You did it elsewhere in the song, so I doubt you might change it, but I prefer to point it out, just in case.

1. 00:09:582 (4,5,6,7) - Since in the song we can notice an intensification of the music during this part, then why not doing an increasing space between objects? That would be a good way to emphasize it, no?
   
2. 00:34:382 (1,2,3,4,5) - For this, I noticed that you're staying in the same part of the grid, that make the map less enjoyable, and more random. So try to extend your mapping, to make the player navigate easily on the playground!
   
3. 00:51:882 - Add a circle here to make the triplet, since you made it before, you can avoid this here 00:50:182 (8,9,1) -
   
4. To be honest, I think that the jump part need work, cause to me, it deserves it. Some of the jumps are interesting, like those one: 00:42:382 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - but some others like those one 00:43:982 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - looks like the circles are placed randomly. A small tip, when you're placing circles/sliders on the grid, ask yourself "Why did I placed that circle here?".

Pachiru wrote:

[ezek's Hard]

1. 00:31:582 (2,3,4,5) - I think that this can be misleading a bit, since you have the same stack but with a different gap before here 00:31:082 (5,1) - . The player might click too fast here and fail or having 100. In my opinion, that would be okay if they would have been more spaced in the timeline, but this time there close from each other. You did it elsewhere in the song, so I doubt you might change it, but I prefer to point it out, just in case. Ye, I did it for consistency here 00:37:982 (2,3,4,5) - since it's pretty much the same intensity. Besides the different gap, I also have a change of combo there, which should be helpful to distinguish the differences. If some players get to fail at first attmept is ok, it could be pretty easy doing it a second time and then the second pattern like that will be predictable since it's an easy rhythm to follow. Before anyone brings this up, 00:43:882 (5) - I mapped the 1/4 unstacked in the patterns for the second kiai because it's more intense and I want to represent it that way.

Pachiru wrote:

[Easy]

1. 00:06:382 (1) - I don't agree with the placement of that slider. You decided to use a long slider, that cover a clap that should've been mapped, since it's similar to the beat that are mapped by that slider: 00:05:582 (3) - so why not doing the same thing? Furthermore, at the end of this slider: 00:06:382 (1) - there is a bit that needs to be mapped, since it's an important one, so it cannot be avoided. Here is my suggestion I agree with makisokk's placement of this slider. As you can see, the head starts on a clap, which is a strong sound, then goes down, but also, as the sound on the red tick starts and increases its volume/intensity, the slider goes upwards, which represents this. While it is true that there's a strong important sound at the tail of the slider, it also fits how the slider was created (going up as the intensity of the sound increases).
   
2. 00:08:782 (3) - Would be better to make same as here since using a 3/2 reverse slider here is not a good idea, cause it's not focus on claps, and it can confuse the player, so for an Easy, try to keep the most basic rhythm, to avoid disturbing them. This is fine imo, he's using a rhythm variation that fits the song, making the Easy diff more interesting to play. I don't think this can confuse beginners since the gaps between his objects keeps staying constantly at 1/1 despite varying the rhythm.
   
3. 00:12:782 (4) - As I said previously here 00:06:382 (1) - , that's not a good idea to make that beat on a sliderend. It would be a way better, and more easy to understand for a beginner, as a clickable beat, as you did before, with a circle. That sound is too important to make it on a sliderend. Here I agree with Pachiru, but not because of the same reason. The thing is that 00:13:182 - you're having this super strong beat in the middle of the slider, which feels kinda odd, I think it would be better if it was mapped. I don't think it matters much whether it's clickable or not since it's an easy diff and it's not a downbeat, but having some object ending or starting on it would be nice.
   
4. 00:19:982 (1,3) - I don't recommand you to make those stacks. It can be misleading for a beginner player, especially cause they're perfectly stacks, so the player might not see the difference. Moreover, this is wrote in the Ranking Criteria, that it shouldn't be stacked. Oh, those stacks are fine for an easy diff since there's enough time after an object to realize what to click next. This is the kind of stacks that shouldn't be done in easy diffs, which are not present in this difficulty. (I made that one to show it as example).
   
5. I'm not a big fan of those 3/2 sliders in the kiai. To be honest, I think it would be better to have this as a long slider instead, like this. I'll list you the slider that are concerned by this. (The only one that is fitting well with the song is this one: 00:51:982 (3) - )
   
   1. 00:34:382 (3) - I agree with Pachiru here, those 3/2 sliders feel out of place, mostly because you're ignoring the strong sound at 00:35:182 - . Pachiru's rhythm suggestion is ok, but I believe this would work even better in terms of representing the music.
   2. 00:39:182 (3) - (especially this one cause I feel it's not following the main beat at all)
   3. 00:47:182 (3) -
6. 00:46:782 (2) - This beat is not respecting the DS like the other notes, don't forget to fix this. This is an objective issue, so yeah it must be fixed.

[Vodka]

1. 00:51:882 - Add a circle here to make the triplet, since you made it before, you can avoid this here 00:50:182 (8,9,1) - Yeah you missed this one, makisokk. Pls add it~

Pachiru wrote:

[Easy]

1. 00:06:382 (1) - I don't agree with the placement of that slider. You decided to use a long slider, that cover a clap that should've been mapped, since it's similar to the beat that are mapped by that slider: 00:05:582 (3) - so why not doing the same thing? Furthermore, at the end of this slider: 00:06:382 (1) - there is a bit that needs to be mapped, since it's an important one, so it cannot be avoided. Here is my suggestion Yes, I understood what you meant, and did as you showed
   
2. 00:08:782 (3) - Would be better to make same as here since using a 3/2 reverse slider here is not a good idea, cause it's not focus on claps, and it can confuse the player, so for an Easy, try to keep the most basic rhythm, to avoid disturbing them. fix
   
3. 00:12:782 (4) - As I said previously here 00:06:382 (1) - , that's not a good idea to make that beat on a sliderend. It would be a way better, and more easy to understand for a beginner, as a clickable beat, as you did before, with a circle. That sound is too important to make it on a sliderend. fix
   
4. 00:19:982 (1,3) - I don't recommand you to make those stacks. It can be misleading for a beginner player, especially cause they're perfectly stacks, so the player might not see the difference. Moreover, this is wrote in the Ranking Criteria, that it shouldn't be stacked. Well i fix it, but i about stack I thought this was only for 1/1 moments
   
5. I'm not a big fan of those 3/2 sliders in the kiai. To be honest, I think it would be better to have this as a long slider instead, like this. I'll list you the slider that are concerned by this. (The only one that is fitting well with the song is this one: 00:51:982 (3) - )
   
   1. 00:34:382 (3) -
   2. 00:39:182 (3) - (especially this one cause I feel it's not following the main beat at all)
   3. 00:47:182 (3) -
   
   
6. 00:46:782 (2) - This beat is not respecting the DS like the other notes, don't forget to fix this.

i fix all Although ezek did not agree with everything, I hope this does not make the map worse

[Normal]

1. From here 00:16:782 (1) - you can try to add some diversified pattern. This is mostly based on double 1/2 sliders. I list you my suggestions.
   
   1. Suggestion 1
   2. Suggestion 2
   3. Suggestion 3 (that might be quite hard for this, but you can still try!)
   Sorry, I believe that none of them do not fit Because I think that simple sliders are better here
2. 00:38:982 (2,3) - I'm not a big fan of this pattern, I think that the turn is not really fitting well, and it's quite harming the flow. This could be more beautiful/easier to play with the flow.
   
3. 00:31:982 (5,1,2) - It's kind of same for here, I think that the pattern isn't really clean. In my opinion, the placement for this one feels quite random, so I think that could be better to move this object, and his sliderbody, to make something more nice. Here is my suggestion (it's a suggestion, you're not forced to make it, but I highly recommand you to change this pattern.)
   
4. 00:47:982 (2,3,4) - Why not converting this slider into a reverse? To me it looks more logic to have this as a reverse instead than 3 clicking circles. If you don't want, give me your opinion, that interest me. I do not agree, because I did this triple by the same type as these patterns 00:39:982 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:52:782 (4,5,6,7) - ! If you do not agree with my opinion, write why

[Vodka]

1. 00:09:582 (4,5,6,7) - Since in the song we can notice an intensification of the music during this part, then why not doing an increasing space between objects? That would be a good way to emphasize it, no? Well, I've already done spacing expansion, so I think that's enough
   
2. 00:34:382 (1,2,3,4,5) - For this, I noticed that you're staying in the same part of the grid, that make the map less enjoyable, and more random. So try to extend your mapping, to make the player navigate easily on the playground!
   
3. 00:51:882 - Add a circle here to make the triplet, since you made it before, you can avoid this here 00:50:182 (8,9,1) - This sound is almost not audible, so I think that it can be skipped
   
4. To be honest, I think that the jump part need work, cause to me, it deserves it. Some of the jumps are interesting, like those one: 00:42:382 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - but some others like those one 00:43:982 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - looks like the circles are placed randomly. A small tip, when you're placing circles/sliders on the grid, ask yourself "Why did I placed that circle here?". Well remap some bad part

Beside that, I wish you best of luck for this set, you've got solid bases on mapping so it's a good thing! Don't hesitate to poke me if you need to clear up some stuffs
ask bakari for icon I had this in the plans after 12sp

1. 00:27:982 - спиннер лучше вот здесь закончить, чтобы расстояние до следующего за спиннером объекта было 4 бита (гуйдлайны, все дела, их лучше не нарушать в младших диффах)
2. 00:34:382 (3) - супер странный слайдер для киая, я бы на два 1/1 слайдера разбила
3. 00:47:182 (3) - а вот тут 1/1 слайдер и две нотки на белых тиках, чтобы экшона добавить
4. 00:51:982 (3) - ^, а то этот слайдер непонятно на чём лежит, только пугает нубиков

1. 00:06:782 - ну вот чего ты его скипаешь, такой клэп сочный
2. 00:12:782 (3) - ^
3. 00:09:782 (3) - мм, может тут нотку+1/2 слайдер сделать? Опять сильный звук на белом тике сожрал
4. 00:15:582 (1) - а тут нота+1/1 слайдер под водочку
5. 00:27:382 (1) - как-то ты его рано начал, я бы со следующего белого тика начала, тем более что на красном по сути и нет ничего
6. 00:39:982 (1,2,3,4,5) - внезапно очень сложно для нормала, может 1/2 слайдерами разбавить?
7. 00:52:782 (4,5,6,7) - ^
8. 00:45:382 - ой, отсюда куда-то триплет делся, ты в первом киае маппал этот тик
9. 00:53:582 (1) - поставь всё же сюда нотку, спиннер не даёт звук от нажатия на его начало, а звук достаточно сильный, не надо его так оставлять. Спиннер можешь потом с голубого или красного тика начать, это вполне законно

1. 00:13:182 (5) - может горизонтально его расположить, так и угол приятнее выглядит, и звук лучше ловится
2. 00:15:382 - как-то ты странно скипаешь этот звук, ты такие фолловишь в этой части. Я думаю можно перетащить 00:15:582 (2,3) - на этот красный тик, а на белый - 00:15:982 нотку. Ну или сам придумай, как тут лучше их покрыть
3. 00:16:782 - 00:26:382 - меня немного смущает, что музыка поменялась, а по паттернам всё осталось примерно так же, как и в прошлой части. Если бы ты добавил немного вариаций, мапка бы стала круче.
4. 00:22:682 (7) - вот хоть убей, не слышу под ней звука, я бы убрала эту ноту
5. 00:22:782 (8) - а кстати, как насчёт разбить этот слайдер на две нотки, там вроде достаточно сильный звук на попе
6. 00:23:182 (1,5) - сделай их с одинаковым изгибом, это же по сути одинаковые звуки, значит и визуально должны быть примерно одинаковы
7. 00:24:382 (6,7,8) - вот тут я упорно слышу двоечку, а не троечку, ну может дело в моих ушах. Я бы двоечками маппнула, и не надо мне затирать про то что двоечки тяжело воспринимаются и играются, нота под слабый звук играется ещё хуже
8. 00:27:182 (3,4) - как-то тут недостаточно эмфасиза, хотя тон звука резко поднимается, может ты их раздвинешь как-нибудь вот так? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9294509
9. Про джампы в киае писать не буду, они мне совсем не нравятся, не могу проследить в них структуру, да и углы какие-то рандомные (00:29:582 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - тут, например, видно всё то, о чём я затирала выше). Подсказать вариант получше тоже не могу, потому что я не джампомаппер, попробуй посмотреть хорошие карты с джампиками (Fycho, например), понять логику, в соответствии с которой он их расставляет и сделать у себя так же хорошо
10. 00:35:182 (3,4) - одинаковые изгибы на подобных слайдерах смотрелись бы куда более эстетично
11. 00:37:182 (7) - финиш потерял
12. 00:47:082 (5) - а тут вистл наверное должен был быть, финиш странновато звучит
13. 00:48:782 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - во, вот здесь хороший джампо-паттерн, только немного неаккуратный, попробуй вот так - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9294596 (Монстрате привет)
14. 00:51:782 (3,4) - ааа, чому тут не трипл, по музыке же трипл
15. 00:52:782 (1,2,3) - шо это ты их так зажимаешь, раздвинь немного, дай людям подвигать курсором
16. 00:53:582 (1) - тут то же самое, что я в нормале писала

PandaHero wrote:

m4m

[General]
1. У вас маппнуто 74% от трека, а рекомендуется оставлять не меньше 80% не замаппаным, сделай что-нибудь с этим кусочком в конце. Я бы наверное даже обрезала, но я девочка жестокая, лучше меня не слушать хмм, ты же уже мне говорила про концовку, Но я все равно хочу оставить ее не замапаной, если что спрошу у бнов про это

[Easy]

1. 00:27:982 - спиннер лучше вот здесь закончить, чтобы расстояние до следующего за спиннером объекта было 4 бита (гуйдлайны, все дела, их лучше не нарушать в младших диффах) Понял, принял! Я просто думал что он включает в себя 4 тика
2. 00:34:382 (3) - супер странный слайдер для киая, я бы на два 1/1 слайдера разбила Мне писали про это в прошлом моду, я не так это сделал( сейчас ремапну
3. 00:47:182 (3) - а вот тут 1/1 слайдер и две нотки на белых тиках, чтобы экшона добавить Лады, сделал так
4. 00:51:982 (3) - ^, а то этот слайдер непонятно на чём лежит, только пугает нубиков Ну тут я его оставил, потому езеку и пачиру только он понравился из все других которые были тут, они сказали что он тут хоть как-то выделяет звук. Но я не знаю может еще фиксану в будущем

[Normal]

1. 00:06:782 - ну вот чего ты его скипаешь, такой клэп сочный Сделал сгиб на белом тике
2. 00:12:782 (3) - ^ Хмм, а сгиба не достаточно?
3. 00:09:782 (3) - мм, может тут нотку+1/2 слайдер сделать? Опять сильный звук на белом тике сожрал Лады, сделал так
4. 00:15:582 (1) - а тут нота+1/1 слайдер под водочку Да сделал, но начал слайдер на красном тике, там и звук сильный да и водка начинает говорить тоже тут
5. 00:27:382 (1) - как-то ты его рано начал, я бы со следующего белого тика начала, тем более что на красном по сути и нет ничего оки
6. 00:39:982 (1,2,3,4,5) - внезапно очень сложно для нормала, может 1/2 слайдерами разбавить? Разбавил 1 слайдером
7. 00:52:782 (4,5,6,7) - ^ ^
8. 00:45:382 - ой, отсюда куда-то триплет делся, ты в первом киае маппал этот тик фиксанул
9. 00:53:582 (1) - поставь всё же сюда нотку, спиннер не даёт звук от нажатия на его начало, а звук достаточно сильный, не надо его так оставлять. Спиннер можешь потом с голубого или красного тика начать, это вполне законно Сделал

[ezek's Hard]
nnnnice

[Vodka]

1. 00:13:182 (5) - может горизонтально его расположить, так и угол приятнее выглядит, и звук лучше ловится oki
2. 00:15:382 - как-то ты странно скипаешь этот звук, ты такие фолловишь в этой части. Я думаю можно перетащить 00:15:582 (2,3) - на этот красный тик, а на белый - 00:15:982 нотку. Ну или сам придумай, как тут лучше их покрыть Добавил ноту на красном тике
3. 00:16:782 - 00:26:382 - меня немного смущает, что музыка поменялась, а по паттернам всё осталось примерно так же, как и в прошлой части. Если бы ты добавил немного вариаций, мапка бы стала круче. Сделал там какую-то вариацию)
4. 00:22:682 (7) - вот хоть убей, не слышу под ней звука, я бы убрала эту ноту Сделал тут слайдер
5. 00:22:782 (8) - а кстати, как насчёт разбить этот слайдер на две нотки, там вроде достаточно сильный звук на попе Я считаю здесь лучше слайдер
6. 00:23:182 (1,5) - сделай их с одинаковым изгибом, это же по сути одинаковые звуки, значит и визуально должны быть примерно одинаковы Сделал
7. 00:24:382 (6,7,8) - вот тут я упорно слышу двоечку, а не троечку, ну может дело в моих ушах. Я бы двоечками маппнула, и не надо мне затирать про то что двоечки тяжело воспринимаются и играются, нота под слабый звук играется ещё хуже Я слышу тут троечку, да и прожимается это легко. посмотри что напишут бны
8. 00:27:182 (3,4) - как-то тут недостаточно эмфасиза, хотя тон звука резко поднимается, может ты их раздвинешь как-нибудь вот так? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9294509 Сделал два последних слайдера с большим джампом
9. Про джампы в киае писать не буду, они мне совсем не нравятся, не могу проследить в них структуру, да и углы какие-то рандомные (00:29:582 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - тут, например, видно всё то, о чём я затирала выше). Подсказать вариант получше тоже не могу, потому что я не джампомаппер, попробуй посмотреть хорошие карты с джампиками (Fycho, например), понять логику, в соответствии с которой он их расставляет и сделать у себя так же хорошо Чекнул монстрату куавер, сейчас так же забабаха0)
10. 00:35:182 (3,4) - одинаковые изгибы на подобных слайдерах смотрелись бы куда более эстетично Испарвил
11. 00:37:182 (7) - финиш потерял +
12. 00:47:082 (5) - а тут вистл наверное должен был быть, финиш странновато звучит +
13. 00:48:782 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - во, вот здесь хороший джампо-паттерн, только немного неаккуратный, попробуй вот так - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9294596 (Монстрате привет) Постарался сделать так ровно, как смог
14. 00:51:782 (3,4) - ааа, чому тут не трипл, по музыке же трипл Cltkfk
15. 00:52:782 (1,2,3) - шо это ты их так зажимаешь, раздвинь немного, дай людям подвигать курсором Сделал больше спейс
16. 00:53:582 (1) - тут то же самое, что я в нормале писала Фиксанул

Я всё

Спасибо за мод Пандочка

mulraf wrote:

General:
______________________________________________________________
- Isn't it a bit much kiai? it's like 22/49 secs, almost half the map maybe get rid of the first kiai section? Well, this song is a cut version, so it's not strange that this ended up happening (I mean, there would be a lot more non-kiai time if this was the full version). The song is begging for kiai where it currently is, so getting rid of some of it wouldn't represent the song well.


ezek's Hard:
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- 00:29:582 (1) - everything after this part looks a bit like kroytz copy & paste. i mean yeah, it sounds nearly the same as the kiai section before and some things are changed but i guess you know what i mean.
other than that i like this I didn't copy-paste whole patterns, just single objects to make patterns for aesthetics. However, now that you mention it, it does look like I copy-pasted whole patterns and just changed them, but that's not the case lol; I was just very consistent. This doesn't have any negative impact on the map anyway, so it's fine.

mulraf wrote:

o/ from my queue

General:
______________________________________________________________
- Isn't it a bit much kiai? it's like 22/49 secs, almost half the map maybe get rid of the first kiai section? Answer ezek


Easy:
______________________________________________________________
- 00:06:382 (1) - either undo NC here or 00:12:782 (4) - NC here 00: 06: 382 (4) - I do not have here nc
- 00:39:182 (3) - NC here instead of 00:37:982 (1) - fix
- 00:51:982 (3) - NC here instead of 00:50:782 (1) - Fix

Normal:
______________________________________________________________
- 00:14:782 (4) - NC here instead I do not understand why here nc, if there is no sound at which it is worth it to put
- 00:22:382 (3) - snap note correctly (yeah, aimod) Fix
- 00:26:382 (4) - NC hmm, i think can try
- 00:29:582 (1) - until end: did you drink to much vodka while making the NC's? I think you know how to do them, looking at your other diffs, but just in case https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neycvFQ5Ug4 hmm maybe

ezek's Hard:
______________________________________________________________
- 00:29:582 (1) - everything after this part looks a bit like kroytz copy & paste. i mean yeah, it sounds nearly the same as the kiai section before and some things are changed but i guess you know what i mean.
other than that i like this

Vodka:
______________________________________________________________
- 00:27:982 (1,2,3,4) - sounds like vodka intensifies. how about making the spacing for each circle a bit larger
- 00:51:782 (3) - sounds empty. should be a triplet. Have triplet.
- 00:51:382 (1) - why the NC? okay delete It's just that there comes out more combos than usual so I decided to split


sorry for taking so long and mostly modding NC's. good luck with the map, it's nice

PandaHero wrote:

Тебе любой бн скажет про 80%, про это даже аймод пишет

RC wrote:

This doesn't count intro time, and thus only applies if more than 20% of the outro is unmapped.

Chalwa wrote:

o/
from #modreqs

[General]

1. The ezek's Hard diff have preview point on red tick when your diffs have it on yellow 1/8 tick before this red one. Change it to got it the same in all mapset. Fix in all diff

[Vodka]

1. 00:09:634 (4,5,6) - Here are three the same patterns used in song, but you've made 00:10:034 (6) slider like sound in this song is similliar to 00:10:234 (7). But in (7) you haven't got the sound in blue tick, so better thing can be if you make 00:10:034 (6) slider similliar look to 00:09:634 (4,5) pattern. I kind of understood what you meant, and tried to do it
2. 00:23:634 (2,3,4), 00:24:434 (6,7,8) 00:25:234 (2,3,4), 00:26:034 (6,7,8) - I don't like how did you emphasasised a triplets here. I think more reasonable and comfortable is when you will put Finish hitsound on the red tick. In my opinion this one sounds much better. Well, it's sounds better
3. 00:28:834 - For emphasise "VODKA" here i think good will be put a 1/1 slider (maybe art). It's a little suggestion, because this one is subiective. In this complexity, I did not follow the vocals, so I do not consider it necessary to put the slider there! 00:28:834 - And here there is no sound
4. 00:35:201 (3,4) - I think flow will be better and will more fit to kiai when you'll make this pattern like on screen, since it's more variety and it's more intuitive. Screen: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9309227 Hmm, yea i do so
5. 00:40:001 (1,2,3,4) - A bit similliar thing to above, but there're four sliders to make a nice look pattern. Maybe you can do here a square from this sliders. Maybe something like on screen: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9309250 Also you'll avoid kinda bad overlap on 00:39:601 (3,1). Good idea man
6. 00:56:001 - Please make here a green line with 5% volume, cause now it's scary when you're making that loud end of spinner on place where's no loud sound. fix in all diff

Just fast check for the highest diff.
Good Luck! c:

Yauxo wrote:

Hardstyle aw yiss

[General]
■ Im pretty sure the Offset should be somewhere around 4002, if not that exactly. Apply that to all the others as well by going into the Timing Panel, ctrl+a the Timing Points and use -32 change.
Ask Plaudible about this, fix to 4038

[Vodka]
Generally fine, Ill just throw in some suggestions

■ 00:17:202 (2,3,4) - and any similar; I feel like straight/curved/anything that is not triangle shaped streams would be better. Those are just somewhat awkward to play (No movement, "no flow"). Increased space
■ 00:24:802 (1) - Shape this one like basically any other Slider in this Map as well? Less curved :v I made it curved, because it's best suited for flow, I think that the direct slider will not look good here
■ 00:37:169 (7) - 00:45:169 (7) - Could place this closer to 00:37:369 (8,9,1) - and 00:45:369 (8,9,1) - respectively to achieve the same effect as 00:30:769 (7,7) - do. Feels better for a combo reset. I do not really understand why, and I specifically highlighted here the case, because there is a new combo, and I wanted to highlight it! especially in 2 kiai
■ If you can, space away those really-close-objects in the jump sections like 00:44:169 (2,4,6) - or 00:50:369 (1,3,5) - . Would look much better. Made them closer

Well, the rest is fine. Sorry for the short post, but there isnt really anything to point out. Simple rhythms, short map \:v/

Asuka_- wrote:

ezek
00:51:601 (6,7) - why there spacing is close compared with other pattern (00:32:401 (6,7) - 00:38:801 (6,7) - 00:45:201 (6,7) - ) ? I adjusted small inconsistencies, but I don't see anything notably different

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1. 00:07:632 (2,2) - It is better to copy
2. 00:13:632 - Why is this the end of the slider?
   00:04:032 (1,1,1) - It's better to have a circle like this
3. 00:30:801 (2) - 00:34:401 (3) - stack miss?

1. 00:06:432 (3) - 1/1 slider is better
2. 00:12:832 (3) - ^

1. 00:09:632 (4,5,6,7) - Why are all distances different?
2. 00:51:201 (5,7) - overlap

mulraf wrote:

did you drink to much vodka while making the NC's?

mulraf wrote:

everything after this part looks a bit like kroytz copy & paste

mulraf wrote:

either undo NC here or 00:12:782 (4) - NC here 00: 06: 382 (4)
NC here instead
NC here instead
NC!!!!!!!