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BiBi - PSYCHIC FIRE [Taiko]

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Topic Starter
KamizonoShinobu
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Gemu-
Hi! ^w^

Request from Gemu's Taiko & Mania Queue (NM, M4M & GD)



d
k
D (Big d)
K (Big k)






  • HP: 8
    OD: 2
  1. 00:09:360 (4) - Put a finish to keep the drums with 00:07:940 (1,2,3) -
  2. 00:33:502 (51) - Change to k to variate a bit, also sounds good.



  • HP: 7
    OD: 3
  1. 00:28:177 (67) - Change to k to keep consistency with 00:16:461 (29,30,31,32) -



  • HP: 6
    OD: 4
  1. 00:27:999 (85,86) - Ctrl G to keep consistency with 00:16:461 (38,39,40,41,42) -
  2. 01:04:745 (274,275,276,277,278,279,280,281,282,283,284,285) - That can be a bit hard, also you can make this to flow much better with the song: Remove 01:04:833 (275,278,284) - is much better.
  3. 01:37:762 (427,428) - Ctrl G, the voices decreases 01:37:407 (425,426) - and then increases 01:37:762 (427,428) -
  4. 01:38:827 (433,434,435,436,437,438,439,440,441,442,443,444) - Remeber this part, right? Apply you make here 01:04:745 -



  • HP: 5
    OD: 5
  1. 00:53:916 (237,238) - Ctrl G sounds much better and for variation.
  2. 01:27:999 (414,415) - ^ for consistency with the previous suggestion.
  3. 01:28:887 (420,421,422,423,424) - It would flow much better with the song if you change the stream to ddkkd.



  • OD: 6


    I see good this diff.

Good map! I hope my mod has been helpful :33, Good Luck!
Faputa
IRC mod with mapper on inner oni:
IRC log
19:44 Chocola_2287: o/
19:44 Chocola_2287: may I ask for a NM?
19:45 Faputa: which map :3
19:45 *Chocola_2287 is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1429234 BiBi - PSYCHIC FIRE]
19:46 Faputa: can I irc mod it?
19:46 Chocola_2287: um
19:46 Chocola_2287: sure
19:47 Faputa: so this diff
19:48 Faputa: I have doubts about 00:20:366 (41,42,43,44) - when playing it
19:48 Chocola_2287: it is following drums
19:49 Faputa: and then when I play through this part 00:26:046 (71,72,73,74,75) -
19:49 Faputa: I feel like they aren't consistent
19:50 Faputa: however, this part feels ok 00:31:372 (111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118) -
19:50 Chocola_2287: which part is it inconsistent to?
19:52 Faputa: the first part I timestamped feels not fit with the second timestamp, but the third timestamp works fine, so I don't know if that's something you need to ponder
19:52 Faputa: that's just my feeling when playing this diff
19:53 Chocola_2287: 1st and 2nd have different musical arrangement tho...
19:54 Faputa: :3 then forget about that. lets move on
19:55 Faputa: 00:45:928 (222,223) - just wondering, what instrument are you following
19:56 Chocola_2287: this one is for consistency with 00:40:248 (178,179) -
19:56 Faputa: feel like kd would work better because 00:44:508 (212,213) - uses kd..
19:56 Chocola_2287: hm
19:56 Faputa: the 5 seconds,
19:57 Faputa: not noticeable umm
19:57 Chocola_2287: 00:44:508 (212,213) - is consistent with 00:38:828 (168,169) -
19:57 Chocola_2287: 00:40:248 (178,179) - for 00:45:928 (222,223) -
19:57 Faputa: these two phases of the song, ok
20:00 Faputa: 00:42:023 (190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198,199,200,201,202,203) - i don't know if this really worth a mirror pattern (the former part follows the latter part)
20:00 Chocola_2287: this one is indeed questionable, I placed this because I have no idea how to map this bar
20:01 Faputa: since not much mirrored but overmapped part in this song
20:01 Faputa: map*
20:01 Chocola_2287: how about d ddk d k d kkkkd
20:02 Faputa: yeah it should be better
20:03 Faputa: 00:52:674 (268,269,270,271,272) - 01:26:757 (469,470,471,472,473,474) - is the k at the end somewhat emphasizing some sounds
20:04 Chocola_2287: it is for 'wow wow' sound
20:04 Chocola_2287: but well
20:05 Chocola_2287: I will fix this later
20:05 Faputa: maybe ddkdk in that case
20:05 Faputa: or something that is more effective
20:05 Chocola_2287: nah I will just change it to d K K
20:05 Faputa: yeah okay
20:06 Faputa: 01:48:946 (7) - What makes you think this should be a D than a long spinner?
20:07 Faputa: I think (if not compulsory), the long lasting sounds at the end are often treated with spinner
20:07 Chocola_2287: the sound at instant fits a finisher
20:08 Faputa: that's fine, so I think that's about it for the inner oni
20:08 Chocola_2287: thanks for sparing some time modding my map too
20:09 Chocola_2287: you may do savelog and post it in the forum
20:09 Faputa: enough for only modding the inner?
20:09 Faputa: But I think the other diffs follow similar logics, so if you like it, let me call it a day
20:10 Chocola_2287: I think its enough
20:10 Chocola_2287: yes
20:10 Chocola_2287: sure
20:10 Faputa: ok let me post
Good luck with the map :^)
Topic Starter
KamizonoShinobu
Hell no I did not receive any email about new mods ;w; . Sorry for late reply.

game rock wrote:

Hi! ^w^

Request from Gemu's Taiko & Mania Queue (NM, M4M & GD)



d
k
D (Big d)
K (Big k)






  • HP: 8
    OD: 2
    >Changed HP only, BPM is moderate enough for OD3
  1. 00:09:360 (4) - Put a finish to keep the drums with 00:07:940 (1,2,3) - >00:09:360 (4) - at that instant, the sound effect does not fit a finisher.
  2. 00:33:502 (51) - Change to k to variate a bit, also sounds good. >Unchanged to be consistent with other diffs



  • HP: 7
    OD: 3
    > Same as Kantan
  1. 00:28:177 (67) - Change to k to keep consistency with 00:16:461 (29,30,31,32) - >Retained for variable and consistency with other diffs.



  • HP: 6
    OD: 4
    >No change, I think the current setting is reasonable already
  1. 00:27:999 (85,86) - Ctrl G to keep consistency with 00:16:461 (38,39,40,41,42) - >I did consistency on snapping arrangement, however I prefer variable color scheme arrangement.
  2. 01:04:745 (274,275,276,277,278,279,280,281,282,283,284,285) - That can be a bit hard, also you can make this to flow much better with the song: Remove 01:04:833 (275,278,284) - is much better. >Fixed
  3. 01:37:762 (427,428) - Ctrl G, the voices decreases 01:37:407 (425,426) - and then increases 01:37:762 (427,428) - >Current pattern can express the pitch trend of the vocal for enough extent.
  4. 01:38:827 (433,434,435,436,437,438,439,440,441,442,443,444) - Remeber this part, right? Apply you make here 01:04:745 -



  • HP: 5
    OD: 5
    >Same as Muzukashii
  1. 00:53:916 (237,238) - Ctrl G sounds much better and for variation. >No change to maintain consistency on pattern arrangement across whole mapset
  2. 01:27:999 (414,415) - ^ for consistency with the previous suggestion.
  3. 01:28:887 (420,421,422,423,424) - It would flow much better with the song if you change the stream to ddkkd. >It is intentional, the pattern is simply from Inner Oni but nerfed. Better not to change it to maintain pattern consistency btw Oni and Inner Oni



  • OD: 6 >Same as Muzukashii
    (If you are interested on why I use OD6.3, it is because I want to make the error allowance to +-30ms

    I see good this diff. >Thanks :3

Good map! I hope my mod has been helpful :33, Good Luck!
Thanks for modding :)
eterpay
:D
Kantan:
I don't know how to mod kantan.
It seems fine.

Futsuu:
Same.
It seems fine.

Muzukashii:
I see you've used only triplet monos. I think other triplets can be used in a muzu. Right now, this difficulty feels a little repetitive. Having some ddk or kkd might make the map flow better. I do like the doublets in the kiai section, since it adds variety.
00:19:745 - Add a k to make this a kkk to emphasise the phrase end.
00:31:106 - Same as above.
01:22:940 - Same as above.

00:40:603 - 00:42:733 - Personally, I prefer just 1/2 patterns here. It'd help make section stand out compared to the one before, since you originally have a ddd k k d pattern here which has already been used a few times before. Something like (all 1/2) ddkdkkdk dkd can work for this part. It does skip a major 1/1 beat, but it follows the melody. (And many parts of this song are syncopated anyway.)

Oni:
00:40:603 - 00:42:733 - Like in the muzu, I think that this part should follow the syncopated melody. How you do it is up to you.

00:52:851 - Convert to a k to match the two Woo! sounds.
00:58:532 - Same as above.
00:58:532 - Same as above.
01:32:615 - Same as above.

The short, ninja spinner is cute. :P

Inner Oni:
I like it :)
I guess I don't really have anything to say about it, other than modifying 00:40:603 - 00:42:733 if you've changed it in the other difficulties.

I do not know how to mod :)
Topic Starter
KamizonoShinobu

eterpay wrote:

:D
Kantan:
I don't know how to mod kantan.
It seems fine.

Futsuu:
Same.
It seems fine.

Muzukashii:
I see you've used only triplet monos. I think other triplets can be used in a muzu. Right now, this difficulty feels a little repetitive. Having some ddk or kkd might make the map flow better. I do like the doublets in the kiai section, since it adds variety.
00:19:745 - Add a k to make this a kkk to emphasise the phrase end.
00:31:106 - Same as above.
01:22:940 - Same as above. >All fixed

00:40:603 - 00:42:733 - Personally, I prefer just 1/2 patterns here. It'd help make section stand out compared to the one before, since you originally have a ddd k k d pattern here which has already been used a few times before. Something like (all 1/2) ddkdkkdk dkd can work for this part. It does skip a major 1/1 beat, but it follows the melody. (And many parts of this song are syncopated anyway.) >Adjusted a bit, tho I am still trying to keep the patterns used here.

Oni:
00:40:603 - 00:42:733 - Like in the muzu, I think that this part should follow the syncopated melody. How you do it is up to you. >I would like to maintain 1/1 dkdk pattern.

00:52:851 - Convert to a k to match the two Woo! sounds.
00:58:532 - Same as above.
00:58:532 - Same as above.
01:32:615 - Same as above. >All fixed

The short, ninja spinner is cute. :P

Inner Oni:
I like it :)
I guess I don't really have anything to say about it, other than modifying 00:40:603 - 00:42:733 if you've changed it in the other difficulties.
>Fixed on other's mod.

I do not know how to mod :)
Thanks for modding.
Protonori
From my modding queue~
Remember that these are suggestions. Feel free to ignore them.

[Futsuu]
01:47:338 - I think you should only use 5 finishers here.
You use 3 finishers in Kantan, but every other diff uses 7 finishers. My suggestion:
01:47:605 (2) - Delete.
01:48:315 (5) - Delete.
This is a bit awkward to play, though. I'll leave the choice up to you.

[Muzukashii]
00:36:865 (132) - Delete to create a break (similar to Futsuu). I think the note density is a bit too much.
00:55:593 (227) - Delete? I think 1/2 snap is enough for this.
01:29:675 (382) - ^

[Oni]
00:14:676 (1) - Reduce the SV on this, since it's relatively easy to miss? (I'm bad at SV/mini-spinners though, so maybe wait for more modders).
00:41:125 - ddkkd? Same reasoning as Inner Oni.

[Inner Oni]
00:41:125 (183,184,185,186,187) - ddkkd? It highlights the vocals at 00:41:303.
00:55:149 (283) - Use k here? It's a bit easier to play imo.
01:02:427 (336,337,338,339) - dkdd? Easier to play, and it's similar to the pattern you used at 01:03:847.

Nice set. Good luck with ranking this! :)
Topic Starter
KamizonoShinobu

Protonori wrote:

From my modding queue~
Remember that these are suggestions. Feel free to ignore them.

[Futsuu]
01:47:338 - I think you should only use 5 finishers here.
You use 3 finishers in Kantan, but every other diff uses 7 finishers. My suggestion:
01:47:605 (2) - Delete.
01:48:315 (5) - Delete.
This is a bit awkward to play, though. I'll leave the choice up to you. >I think the current arrangement plays better. Deleting the finishers makes it awkward to play.

[Muzukashii]
00:36:865 (132) - Delete to create a break (similar to Futsuu). I think the note density is a bit too much. >Done
00:55:593 (227) - Delete? I think 1/2 snap is enough for this. >It is necessary to be 1/4 in order to be consistent with how I emphasize vocal in 00:54:794 (219,220,221,222,223,224) -
01:29:675 (382) - ^ >Same as above

[Oni]
00:14:676 (1) - Reduce the SV on this, since it's relatively easy to miss? (I'm bad at SV/mini-spinners though, so maybe wait for more modders). >Needs more opinion about this, I myself go against this because lowering SV increase the time that spinner overlaps other notes.
00:41:125 - ddkkd? Same reasoning as Inner Oni. >Unchanged in order to emphasize the vocal pitch generally in this bar, where 00:37:752 (134) - as lowest , 00:40:593 (152) - as highest, making a contrast.

[Inner Oni]
00:41:125 (183,184,185,186,187) - ddkkd? It highlights the vocals at 00:41:303. >Refer to Oni
00:55:149 (283) - Use k here? It's a bit easier to play imo. >Changed, the previous pattern plays weird.
01:02:427 (336,337,338,339) - dkdd? Easier to play, and it's similar to the pattern you used at 01:03:847. >Sounds weird for me when 01:02:427 (336) - is a d, which takes away impact from the notes after.

Nice set. Good luck with ranking this! :)
Thanks for modding.
Ozu
very short free kds irc
20:56 Chocola_2287: o/
20:56 Chocola_2287: May I ask for a NM?
20:57 404 AccNotFound: woow it's chocola
20:57 404 AccNotFound: halo~~
20:57 404 AccNotFound: oh, little hard cause i have little many left mod =v=;;
20:58 404 AccNotFound: blame my laziness xp
20:58 Chocola_2287: It isn't urgent
20:58 Chocola_2287: You can do the mod at anytime
20:59 404 AccNotFound: ok maybe little shork =v=
20:59 404 AccNotFound: what's the song?
20:59 *Chocola_2287 is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1429234 BiBi - PSYCHIC FIRE]
21:01 404 AccNotFound: wow
21:01 404 AccNotFound: awesome flow
21:02 Chocola_2287: ~~Copy pasta mapping~~
21:02 404 AccNotFound: -v-b
21:02 Chocola_2287: ;w;
21:02 404 AccNotFound: irc able?
21:02 Chocola_2287: sure
21:02 *404 AccNotFound is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1429233 BiBi - PSYCHIC FIRE [Inner Oni]]
21:03 404 AccNotFound: 00:03:670 (3,4,5,6) -
21:04 404 AccNotFound: little awkward to me cause of finisher
21:04 404 AccNotFound: 00:04:025 (4,6) -
21:04 404 AccNotFound: 00:04:735 (6) - just k? so that make more fit at song
21:05 Chocola_2287: removing finisher on (6) will ruin the flow imo
21:05 Chocola_2287: There is a big contrast on density before/after 00:05:090 (7) -
21:06 Chocola_2287: As such, I think finisher can be used on 00:02:250 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - since it is on main snap only
21:06 404 AccNotFound: ok good =v=b
21:06 404 AccNotFound: 00:14:676 (1) -
21:07 404 AccNotFound: able for rank??? i don't know well but little worried lol
21:07 404 AccNotFound: just put k also looks good to me
21:07 Chocola_2287: yes it is rankable
21:07 Chocola_2287: I did the same SV on Kinmirai Happy End
21:07 404 AccNotFound: fun pattern ww i love it
21:08 Chocola_2287: thanks :3
21:08 404 AccNotFound: 00:36:066 (148) -
21:09 404 AccNotFound: delete?
21:09 404 AccNotFound: and 00:36:155 (148) - fin isher
21:10 404 AccNotFound: like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9363781
21:10 404 AccNotFound: ?
21:10 Chocola_2287: Keep, the vocal is still continuing in 00:35:977 (147,148,149) -
21:10 404 AccNotFound: synth sound also sound
21:10 Chocola_2287: 00:36:332 (150,151,152,153,154) - following nico's vocal
21:10 404 AccNotFound: ok
21:11 404 AccNotFound: 01:00:208 (320) - delete?
21:11 404 AccNotFound: ongoing sound end at 01:00:119 (319) -
21:13 404 AccNotFound: also 01:00:474 (322,323,324,325,326,327,328) - KdKdKdK? and 01:00:297 (321) - d for play smooth
21:13 Chocola_2287: 01:00:119 (319,320,321) - vocal is still continuous
21:14 404 AccNotFound: 01:00:208 (320) - clearly stacatto vocal
21:14 Chocola_2287: DkDkDkD and KdKdKdK are the same tbh
21:14 404 AccNotFound: agree it loll
21:14 Chocola_2287: that ha~~~~~ sound is whole bar duration
21:14 404 AccNotFound: ok =v=b
21:14 404 AccNotFound: 01:24:261 (439) - maybe K?
21:15 404 AccNotFound: drum playing snare and vocal also high tone
21:16 Chocola_2287: want to be consistent with 00:08:995 (5) - , 01:12:900 (408) -
21:16 404 AccNotFound: 01:13:255 (409) - K?
21:16 404 AccNotFound: cause you use 01:12:900 (408) - d so for smooth playing imo
21:17 404 AccNotFound: 01:35:977 (523) - D? booooooom sound
21:17 Chocola_2287: 01:13:255 (409) - I am actually following instrument here
21:17 404 AccNotFound: also good with 01:35:622 (522) -
21:18 404 AccNotFound: tbh instrument has only small k sound lol
21:19 Chocola_2287: Actually following the pitch isn't my 1st intention wwwww
21:19 404 AccNotFound: www ok
21:19 Chocola_2287: Because that destroy flexible mapping techniques
21:20 Chocola_2287: 523 unchanged for consistency in 1st kiai
21:20 404 AccNotFound: so i think you miss to catch me at the modder cause i love following pitch lmao
21:20 Chocola_2287: 01:01:894 (329) -
21:20 404 AccNotFound: ok it's end
21:20 404 AccNotFound: funny map =v= gl~~
21:20 Chocola_2287: thanks for sparing some time checking my map
21:21 Chocola_2287: you may savelog and post it on the forum, I'll kd you
Ladies Night
sector 712
irc nm request / taiko
general
  1. turn off widescreen support for oni since you have it off for the rest of the mapset.
  2. the hp jump from futsuu to muzukashii is pretty drastic, i'd recommend kantan's hp be 7 and futsuu's hp be 6 so the progression is more straightforward for muzukashii.
  3. oni's od would be better as 6 instead of a decimal setting, inner oni seems more suited with decimal setting and the separation between the two difficulties would be pretty clear.
kantan
  1. 00:20:001 (24) - seems more suited as k, due to the vocals here and would break away from the d,k rhythm you're using here for a bit.
  2. 00:31:362 (47) - same suggestion as above if you wish to apply.
  3. 01:13:255 - this section here with the finishers kinda loses emphasis due to the over usage of it and doesn't really suit the downtime here for the next Kiai part, would be better off as regular notes.
futsuu
  1. lots of 1/2 5plets used in the non-kiai sections, would recommend breaking them up into smaller patterns for this difficulty so it's less rhythmically dense.
muzukashii
  1. 00:06:244 (15) - delete this note, would be easier to play leading into the spinner.
  2. 00:32:605 (108) - minor suggestion, would better contrast the vocals here if this note was a k.
  3. 00:53:374 / 00:55:859 - that's a lot of 1/4 triples even for kiai time in muzukashii, mind reducing some of them?
  4. 01:10:415 / 01:11:835 - same situation as the above suggestion, spinner or slider or some smaller patterns would work with the rhythm here.
  5. 01:27:457 / 01:29:942 - same deal as the above two suggestions.
oni
  1. 00:14:676 - spinner here seems out of place for this mapset, would throw some players off on sightread.
  2. 00:38:463 (139) - seems better as k, since the original pattern you use here is pretty unusual for this difficulty.
  3. 00:44:143 (176) - same situation as the above suggestion.
inner oni
  1. 00:17:871 - think it would have more impact with the vocals if it wasn't triples but single notes or something less dense to contrast the part after it.
Topic Starter
KamizonoShinobu

Voyage wrote:

sector 712
irc nm request / taiko
general
  1. turn off widescreen support for oni since you have it off for the rest of the mapset. >Fixed
  2. the hp jump from futsuu to muzukashii is pretty drastic, i'd recommend kantan's hp be 7 and futsuu's hp be 6 so the progression is more straightforward for muzukashii. >^
  3. oni's od would be better as 6 instead of a decimal setting, inner oni seems more suited with decimal setting and the separation between the two difficulties would be pretty clear. >I treat Oni/Inner Oni as same level tbh.
kantan
  1. 00:20:001 (24) - seems more suited as k, due to the vocals here and would break away from the d,k rhythm you're using here for a bit. >No change as d is responsible to express the pitch drop from the vocal.
  2. 00:31:362 (47) - same suggestion as above if you wish to apply. >Same as above
  3. 01:13:255 - this section here with the finishers kinda loses emphasis due to the over usage of it and doesn't really suit the downtime here for the next Kiai part, would be better off as regular notes. >I see your concern, hence I lowered the volume here to make it sounds like regular notes. imo finishers are necessary as how I did the same in other diffs to be consistent among whole set.
futsuu
  1. lots of 1/2 5plets used in the non-kiai sections, would recommend breaking them up into smaller patterns for this difficulty so it's less rhythmically dense. >Reduced the amount of 5plets in non-kiai sections
muzukashii
  1. 00:06:244 (15) - delete this note, would be easier to play leading into the spinner. >Fixed
  2. 00:32:605 (108) - minor suggestion, would better contrast the vocals here if this note was a k. >^
  3. 00:53:374 / 00:55:859 - that's a lot of 1/4 triples even for kiai time in muzukashii, mind reducing some of them? >Nerfed
  4. 01:10:415 / 01:11:835 - same situation as the above suggestion, spinner or slider or some smaller patterns would work with the rhythm here. >^
  5. 01:27:457 / 01:29:942 - same deal as the above two suggestions. >^^
oni
  1. 00:14:676 - spinner here seems out of place for this mapset, would throw some players off on sightread. >It's actually emphasizing BG sound if you play at 50%/75%
  2. 00:38:463 (139) - seems better as k, since the original pattern you use here is pretty unusual for this difficulty. >Keep to maintain pattern consistency with Inner Oni
  3. 00:44:143 (176) - same situation as the above suggestion. >^
inner oni
  1. 00:17:871 - think it would have more impact with the vocals if it wasn't triples but single notes or something less dense to contrast the part after it. >imo current pattern goes well and able to have reasonable spread with Oni
Thanks for modding.
Alwaysyukaz
Hi Chocola :3333
NM Special Birthday Incoming *whuzzzz sfx

[Kantan]

00:33:492 - how about change to kdk here? i think its better to make some variation here

00:49:113 - why you don't add note here? i think its better

00:50:178 - remove the finisher. the sound isn't loud enough

00:54:794 (90,91) - why you put the finisher here? i think the sounds isn't loud enough

01:28:876 (41,42) - ^

01:17:516 - change to d, I think the pattern and the sounds still follow the bang" fireworks XD *tfw this sounds lol

01:23:906 - remove the finisher, its seems have a break and more slower than 01:24:261 -

[Futsuu]

00:08:196 - are you sure this note in blue tick?

00:09:705 - this triplet is similiar with 00:11:125 - right? so why don't make this same or make some variation?

00:20:001 - wa! *I think the sounds "wa!" here seems in high pitch so i suggest you to change in kat *nah don't expect my weebs language XD

00:49:291 - I think change to kddk seems better here :3

01:35:977 - how about finisher here?

[Muzukashii]

00:36:687 - I think its better in don + finisher (?) its because the sounds is quiet different with 00:37:042 (132,133) -

00:38:374 - , 00:44:054 - , 00:45:474 - I have no idea why the duplet is exist here ;; 00:39:794 - here too *demn I'm forget the other one XD


I'm not good in modding Oni and Inner Oni and your mapset looks pretty good so I"m skip from this ;;

Good Luck for ranked! :D
Topic Starter
KamizonoShinobu

Alwaysyukaz wrote:

Hi Chocola :3333
NM Special Birthday Incoming *whuzzzz sfx

[Kantan]

00:33:492 - how about change to kdk here? i think its better to make some variation here >I would rather maintaining 1/1 d pattern here

00:49:113 - why you don't add note here? i think its better >I don't see a reason to add a note here as there is no sound can be followed on that time stamp.

00:50:178 - remove the finisher. the sound isn't loud enough >Unchanged to keep finisher usage consistency with other difficulties.

00:54:794 (90,91) - why you put the finisher here? i think the sounds isn't loud enough >It is intended, I wanted to emphasize all vocal sounds but Kantan doesn't allow 6+ 1/1 plets, hence I used finishers to emphasize the main 2/1 beat.

01:28:876 (41,42) - ^ ^

01:17:516 - change to d, I think the pattern and the sounds still follow the bang" fireworks XD *tfw this sounds lol >For pattern variation.

01:23:906 - remove the finisher, its seems have a break and more slower than 01:24:261 - >Has to be consistent with 00:49:823 (78) -

[Futsuu]

00:08:196 - are you sure this note in blue tick? >Yes, the sound effect sounds at this time stamp.

00:09:705 - this triplet is similiar with 00:11:125 - right? so why don't make this same or make some variation? >Changed to dkd.

00:20:001 - wa! *I think the sounds "wa!" here seems in high pitch so i suggest you to change in kat *nah don't expect my weebs language XD >It has a lower pitch compared to 00:19:646 (40) -

00:49:291 - I think change to kddk seems better here :3 >DDDK will be better to emphasize the upward pitch sound effect here.

01:35:977 - how about finisher here? >Retained in order to keep consistency with 01:01:894 (184) -

[Muzukashii]

00:36:687 - I think its better in don + finisher (?) its because the sounds is quiet different with 00:37:042 (132,133) - >Remain unchanged to keep pattern consistency among all diffs.

00:38:374 - , 00:44:054 - , 00:45:474 - I have no idea why the duplet is exist here ;; 00:39:794 - here too *demn I'm forget the other one XD >It is somehow better than ddd k because it is more interesting to play, using the same 1/4 patterns makes the gameplay boring.


I'm not good in modding Oni and Inner Oni and your mapset looks pretty good so I"m skip from this ;;

Good Luck for ranked! :D
Thanks for modding. :)
Mihaugoku
In-game request.
Prepare to reject everything.

Kantan

00:26:392 (37) - this feels like a finisher note

Futsuu

01:12:900 (217) - this SV change is unnecessary.

Muzukashii

01:12:900 (305,306) - I do not like the sudden two relatively big SV changes on this difficulty. You probably should delete one.

Oni

00:14:676 (1) - This feels questionable for me to put in a 4* Oni. Can stay, but i would prefer to lower the SV or just remove it.

Inner Oni

00:34:912 (135) - the pattern starting here looks a little uncomfortable. Try this:


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Just some nitpicks, this isn't my best thing to mod, but i tried.
And the map looks good to me anyway.
Topic Starter
KamizonoShinobu

Mihaugoku wrote:

In-game request.
Prepare to reject everything.

Kantan

00:26:392 (37) - this feels like a finisher note >Unchanged to be consistent with 00:15:031 (14) -

Futsuu

01:12:900 (217) - this SV change is unnecessary. >Deleted

Muzukashii

01:12:900 (305,306) - I do not like the sudden two relatively big SV changes on this difficulty. You probably should delete one. >Keep, 1st SV change is to be consistent with 00:50:178 (192) - ; 2nd slowdown one is to reflect the calm section after the time stamp.

Oni

00:14:676 (1) - This feels questionable for me to put in a 4* Oni. Can stay, but i would prefer to lower the SV or just remove it. >Keep, lowering SV increase the overlap time with other notes which is more difficult to sightread.

Inner Oni

00:34:912 (135) - the pattern starting here looks a little uncomfortable. Try this:
>Fixed in my own way.

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Just some nitpicks, this isn't my best thing to mod, but i tried.
And the map looks good to me anyway.
Thanks for modding.
Fuel
hi

mod
Kantan
  1. 00:03:670 (3,4) - Ctrl+g? I feel like it fits the high -> low pitch better
  2. 01:08:995 (12,13,14) - Ctrl+g? Same idea, and here I think it'd better to have the repeated hitsound on the second and third beat while you're mapping to these simple sounds
  3. 01:43:078 (3,4) - For consistency if you change the above
Futsuu
  1. 00:03:670 (3,4,5) - Same idea as in Kantan
  2. 01:43:078 (3,4,5) - ^
Muzukashii
  1. 00:46:983 (180,181,182,183,184,185) - Ctrl+g? I think ddd kkk D is more comfortable to play
  2. Are the SV changes from 01:12:900 - a bit overkill for Muzu? idk tbh Maybe have the note at 01:13:255 (306) - come in at 1x SV (like at kiai) and then have the following ones at 0.75x? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Oni
  1. 00:14:676 (1) - I think it's better to have the spinner start at 00:14:498 - and to leave the bit from 00:14:676 - to 00:15:031 - as an empty sound, since that point is a break in the music whereas at 00:14:498 - is like a mini-climax of the section
Inner Oni
  1. 00:14:676 (1) - Same idea as Oni
  2. 01:22:752 (431) - Not sure about an exact change but I think this offbeat k is pretty awkward-sounding, there's nothing to suggest a 3/4 rhythm like this implies
Nice set, good luck with it

Hope it helps :D
Topic Starter
KamizonoShinobu

Invective wrote:

hi

mod
Kantan
  1. 00:03:670 (3,4) - Ctrl+g? I feel like it fits the high -> low pitch better >I think current pattern arrangement flows better.
  2. 01:08:995 (12,13,14) - Ctrl+g? Same idea, and here I think it'd better to have the repeated hitsound on the second and third beat while you're mapping to these simple sounds >Unchanged in order to be consistent with 00:03:670 (3,4) -
  3. 01:43:078 (3,4) - For consistency if you change the above
Futsuu
  1. 00:03:670 (3,4,5) - Same idea as in Kantan >Same as Kantan
  2. 01:43:078 (3,4,5) - ^
Muzukashii
  1. 00:46:983 (180,181,182,183,184,185) - Ctrl+g? I think ddd kkk D is more comfortable to play >Retained in order to keep pattern consistency with other diffs.
  2. Are the SV changes from 01:12:900 - a bit overkill for Muzu? idk tbh Maybe have the note at 01:13:255 (306) - come in at 1x SV (like at kiai) and then have the following ones at 0.75x? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >This SV should be bearable by a muzukashii player
Oni
  1. 00:14:676 (1) - I think it's better to have the spinner start at 00:14:498 - and to leave the bit from 00:14:676 - to 00:15:031 - as an empty sound, since that point is a break in the music whereas at 00:14:498 - is like a mini-climax of the section >There is a special sound effect on 00:14:676 (1) - ,I guess you missed it.
Inner Oni
  1. 00:14:676 (1) - Same idea as Oni >^
  2. 01:22:752 (431) - Not sure about an exact change but I think this offbeat k is pretty awkward-sounding, there's nothing to suggest a 3/4 rhythm like this implies >I think it goes well tho... 01:22:486 (428,430,432) - as d to emphasize vocal, 01:23:019 (434) - to emphasize 01:23:196 (435) -
Nice set, good luck with it

Hope it helps :D
Thanks for modding.
Diva Days


[ Muzukashii]

00:03:670 - i think D_d_K_k is better here.
00:05:899 (12) - better move to 00:05:178
00:06:332 - forgot k here? lost consistency with (11)
00:09:528 (7) - this kat should be on 00:09:883
00:10:948 (14) - ^, move to 00:11:303 and swap with 00:11:125 (15)
00:13:167 (25) - think this note not need. if u delete it, swap (26),(27)
00:19:380 (52) - it could be deleted for next kat triples, but it's suggestion.
00:30:741 (99) - ^
00:36:510 (130) - delete this, Oni have D on 00:36:865 but muzu not have.
01:05:534 (272) - same as 00:05:899 (12)
01:11:214 (298) - ^
01:13:255 ~ 01:21:066 - i think finishers on here must be remove, this is lower part.
01:43:078 - same as 00:03:670
01:45:297 (12) - same as same as 00:05:899 (12)

[ Oni]

00:03:670 - as i said on Muzu
00:12:013 - add kat, should be connected.
00:12:989 (28) - move to 00:13:078
00:14:676 - spin under 1 sec, i recommend change to note.
00:20:090 (34) - no sound for this stream, delete.
00:30:741 (90) - change it to don back, as u did on 00:19:380
00:31:451 (96) - same as 00:20:090 (34)
00:35:001 (117) - same as 00:30:741 (90) or delete it.
00:35:889 (125) - i think don is better here.
00:39:971 (149) - change it to don as u did on 00:38:551
00:41:392 (159),(160) - swap this.
00:45:652 (187) - same as 00:39:971 (149)
00:47:250 (197) - change it to don cuz same sound as (196)
00:53:463 (230),(235) - wrong kat, change to don. but if u mind it gonna same pattern on Muzu, try below


00:54:883 (240),(242) - swap this.
00:59:143 (267) - same as 00:20:090 (34)
01:05:711 (313) - same as 00:47:250 (197)
01:13:255 ~ 01:21:066 - as i said on Muzu
01:27:545 (403),(408) - same as 00:53:463 (230),(235)
01:28:965 (413),(415) - same as 00:54:883 (240),(242)
01:33:226 (440) - same as 00:20:090 (34)
01:34:113 (448) - same as 00:47:250 (197)
01:43:078 - same as 00:03:670
Topic Starter
KamizonoShinobu

Diva Days wrote:



[ Muzukashii]

00:03:670 - i think D_d_K_k is better here. >No change, the sound effects are of same volume.
00:05:899 (12) - better move to 00:05:178 >I am doing density flow here.
00:06:332 - forgot k here? lost consistency with (11) >This is intended as this is just Muzukashii, having 1/1 break does contribute to the map structure.
00:09:528 (7) - this kat should be on 00:09:883 >Fixed
00:10:948 (14) - ^, move to 00:11:303 and swap with 00:11:125 (15) >Moved the note only, not swapping notes to accompany the pattern arrangement with Futsuu.
00:13:167 (25) - think this note not need. if u delete it, swap (26),(27) >I think it is necessary to keep (25) as it helps emphasizing (26).
00:19:380 (52) - it could be deleted for next kat triples, but it's suggestion.
00:30:741 (99) - ^ >Hm, I need more suggestion about this 2, I'll keep it to accompany the diff spread btw Futsuu and Oni.
00:36:510 (130) - delete this, Oni have D on 00:36:865 but muzu not have. >It is necessary to keep this note in order to help expressing vocal.
01:05:534 (272) - same as 00:05:899 (12) >^
01:11:214 (298) - ^ >^
01:13:255 ~ 01:21:066 - i think finishers on here must be remove, this is lower part. >But I am still emphasizing the 2/1 sound effects in the BG music.
01:43:078 - same as 00:03:670
01:45:297 (12) - same as same as 00:05:899 (12) >Refer to the beginning.

[ Oni]

00:03:670 - as i said on Muzu >Same as Muzukashii
00:12:013 - add kat, should be connected. >Although I hear a sound effect there, I am not changing it as I want to keep a constant 1/1 break.
00:12:989 (28) - move to 00:13:078 >No change to be consistent with the pattern arrangement on 00:12:279 (23) -
00:14:676 - spin under 1 sec, i recommend change to note. >Refer to my previous mod replies.
00:20:090 (34) - no sound for this stream, delete. >Would kill the overall structure of the map.
00:30:741 (90) - change it to don back, as u did on 00:19:380 >For variation since it is by another vocalist.
00:31:451 (96) - same as 00:20:090 (34) >^^
00:35:001 (117) - same as 00:30:741 (90) or delete it. >^
00:35:889 (125) - i think don is better here. >I prefer not changing it as it is the reverse pattern of 00:34:912 (116,117,118,119,120) - and it gives out special emphasizing effect.
00:39:971 (149) - change it to don as u did on 00:38:551 >My consistency unit is 4bars, not 1bar. i.e. I made it consistent with current pattern after 00:43:433 (171) -
00:41:392 (159),(160) - swap this. >Don't see a point changing it as my previous 5plets all ends with d.
00:45:652 (187) - same as 00:39:971 (149) >Same as above 2^.
00:47:250 (197) - change it to don cuz same sound as (196) >Intended to make this pattern more interesting to play.
00:53:463 (230),(235) - wrong kat, change to don. but if u mind it gonna same pattern on Muzu, try below
>Fixed

00:54:883 (240),(242) - swap this. >Changed 00:55:149 (243) - to k instead to make a reasonable spread with Inner Oni.
00:59:143 (267) - same as 00:20:090 (34)
01:05:711 (313) - same as 00:47:250 (197) >They are of different parts of music, no reason to be consistent on these time stamps.
01:13:255 ~ 01:21:066 - as i said on Muzu >Same as Muzukashii
01:27:545 (403),(408) - same as 00:53:463 (230),(235)
01:28:965 (413),(415) - same as 00:54:883 (240),(242) >2^
01:33:226 (440) - same as 00:20:090 (34)
01:34:113 (448) - same as 00:47:250 (197) >2^
01:43:078 - same as 00:03:670 >Same as the reason I mentioned above.
Thanks for mod.
Raytoly
yo M4M
Inner Oni
00:04:912 maybe can add dk or kk?
00:37:752 I hear... change to D or K? I hear high sound? 00:37:575 maybe this need change to d and 00:37:752 change to K
00:54:794 change to dkkdkdkkd?
00:58:877 try ddkkdkddkdkkdkddk
01:28:877 like 00:54:794
01:32:962 try ddkdkkddkdkkdkddk
01:35:622 you can use kkkk(1/6)
01:44:321 like 00:04:912
Oni
00:59:321 maybe delete note? I think it's look hard cause later is kkdkd
01:33:403 ^but it's last kiai you can use this note
I mod oni for my muzu :d
nice map
good luck ~~~~~
Topic Starter
KamizonoShinobu

Cocoaaa wrote:

yo M4M
Inner Oni
00:04:912 maybe can add dk or kk? >No reliable sound effects to add these notes.
00:37:752 I hear... change to D or K? I hear high sound? 00:37:575 maybe this need change to d and 00:37:752 change to K >Rejected for consistency that 00:15:031 (1) - , 00:26:392 (74) - aren't using finisher.
00:54:794 change to dkkdkdkkd? >Mind giving a reason for that?
00:58:877 try ddkkdkddkdkkdkddk >^
01:28:877 like 00:54:794 >^
01:32:962 try ddkdkkddkdkkdkddk >^
01:35:622 you can use kkkk(1/6) >I used a finisher to represent the bzzzzt sound.
01:44:321 like 00:04:912 >Same as 1st.
Oni
00:59:321 maybe delete note? I think it's look hard cause later is kkdkd >imo it's reasonable being a 4* Oni.
01:33:403 ^but it's last kiai you can use this note >No change for consistency ^
I mod oni for my muzu :d
nice map
good luck ~~~~~
Thanks for modding.
Poii
General

change that to 70 or 75 or 80, so we cen see the girls face

Futsuu
00:06:510 (1) - maybe give some 1/2 break ? end it at 00:07:575 -

maybe del this 00:19:468 - ? you already have 1/2 triplet maybe some lil rest ? if you still want to keep this triplet, maybe 00:19:291 (38,39,40) - to kdd ? its goin well with the vocal , also 00:20:001 - to k high pitch vocal

00:36:510 - maybe del this, since you ignore this 00:36:865 - sound ?

01:37:397 - how about ddkdk ? its goin well with the vocal imo

01:45:918 (1) - like my first point

muzukashii
00:19:291 (51,52,53,54,55,56) - maybe swap the triplet, kkk and ddd, bcus is fit with the vocal, also if you apply this, maybe change 00:20:001 - to k ? since it have high pitch

good consistency, well done

kantan
maybe move this 00:49:823 (78,79) - to 00:49:468 - ?

01:23:906 - how about del this ? so you can focus on "hay!" 01:24:261 - ? and 01:24:261 - to k for "hay!" sound
1st kai doesnt have "hay!" :( so maybe you ca ignore the "hay!" sound and make it look like the 1st kai ?

pretty good, have my baby Star
Topic Starter
KamizonoShinobu

Poii wrote:

General

change that to 70 or 75 or 80, so we cen see the girls face >I am not sure about this, I usually dim 100% during gameplay, but fixed nonetheless.

Futsuu
00:06:510 (1) - maybe give some 1/2 break ? end it at 00:07:575 - >There's one at 00:04:380 (5,6) - already. Not changing the spinner end in order to be consistent with other diffs. spinner

maybe del this 00:19:468 - ? you already have 1/2 triplet maybe some lil rest ? if you still want to keep this triplet, maybe 00:19:291 (38,39,40) - to kdd ? its goin well with the vocal , also 00:20:001 - to k high pitch vocal >Current arrangement can express the trend of vocal pitch already. Focusing on 00:19:291 (38,40,41) -

00:36:510 - maybe del this, since you ignore this 00:36:865 - sound ? >No change to keep consistent with other diffs. arrangement.

01:37:397 - how about ddkdk ? its goin well with the vocal imo >2^

01:45:918 (1) - like my first point >Same as before.

muzukashii
00:19:291 (51,52,53,54,55,56) - maybe swap the triplet, kkk and ddd, bcus is fit with the vocal, also if you apply this, maybe change 00:20:001 - to k ? since it have high pitch >Same as Futsuu, focusing on 00:19:291 (51,54,57) - .

good consistency, well done

kantan
maybe move this 00:49:823 (78,79) - to 00:49:468 - ? >I think both arrangement suits, it is just preferences.

01:23:906 - how about del this ? so you can focus on "hay!" 01:24:261 - ? and 01:24:261 - to k for "hay!" sound
1st kai doesnt have "hay!" :( so maybe you ca ignore the "hay!" sound and make it look like the 1st kai ? >I am focusing on instrument here,
as well be consistent with 00:49:823 (78,79) -

pretty good, have my baby Star
Thanks for modding.
Cinnamon_54
-.-

[General]
can u set oni hp to 5.5 seems little weird to compare muzu and oni

no ability to mod kantan and futsuu sorry i will give a star

[muzu]
00:03:670 (3,4,5,6) - D K D K?following the drum sound
00:08:995 (5) - K?sound higher than previous note
00:12:457 (21,22,23,24) - change kk k d?i think it is awkward to play for players who plays muzu,and you used dd d k here 00:38:374 (137,138,139,140) -
00:51:510 (197,198,199) - dd k?
01:13:255 - to 01:21:066 - part finishers seems very weird imo
01:43:078 (3,4,5,6) - D K D K reason same as above

[oni]
00:50:178 (211) - K?
01:13:255 - to 01:21:066 - same reason
-.-i suck
[inner oni]
00:02:250 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - since it's inner oni,would u like to follow all the sound effect? ok nvm full spread consistency
00:25:770 - drum sound here
00:37:220 - d follow drum here
00:37:309 - ^
01:13:255 - to 01:21:066 -.-





GL for rank i suck modding
Lasse
why are oni and inner oni both using the same od? inner could be a bit higher (6.5?) so it's actually also more difficult accuracy wise
hp5 on muzu seems a bit low here, I think 6 or 5.5 would work better

how about putting an ending spinner on all diffs? would fit the sound really well and if you add some green lines with progressively reducing volume it would be great



kantan
00:02:250 (1,2,3,4) - I don't really get your pattern here since there already is a much noticeable change on 00:03:670 -, so I think DDKK would work well while still being really simple
00:49:823 (78,79) - seems really weird as a lead into the chorus with how current starts only after the most pronounced sound and maps much less outstanding things. something like https://i.imgur.com/51USD7s.jpg would be nicer and you already have a huge rhythm gap just a second before at 00:42:013 (68,69) - anyway
00:50:178 (79) - 01:24:261 (30) - having a finisher here but not at the start of the chorus feels really underwhelming :c
01:24:261 (30) - finish seems really overdone here, also the whole 5 note pattern feels a bit too connected even though song changes on, how about something like kkdkd ?


futsuu
00:11:835 - music is so intense here, i think you could easily add something considering you already have a break at 00:14:676 -
00:50:178 (141) - 01:24:261 (243) - same as kantan. also most likely applies to higher diffs
01:00:474 (180,181,182,183) - 01:01:894 (184,185,186,187) - are both mapped in the exact same way even though song is so different, how about changing 01:01:894 (184,185,186,187) - to dkdk or dkkd ? if you do the first then you can also make 01:03:315 (188,189,190,191,192) - into ddkkd to get some more differentiation. or do something similar to 01:34:557 - which is bascially the same thing but executed better


muzukashii
00:10:238 (10,11,12) - don't really see why the triple would be here when the 1/4 on 00:10:593 - is so outstanding, I think doing https://i.imgur.com/orBG61L.jpg would fit better, considering the same sound repeats more intense on 00:11:658 (17,18,19) - where you mapped it as k triple, fully ignoring first time it happens seems weird.
00:34:912 - I don't think having the hardest pattern in the whole map in this part is very fitting, such a long chain of 1/2 and 1/4 rhythms which is even harder than the more intense parts of the song. there are multiple ways to handle this, how about deleting 00:36:155 (128) - which would also put nice emphasis on the vocalist change at 00:36:332 - . another solution would be simply deleting 00:35:711 (125,126) -
00:42:013 - triple placement feels kinda unintutive here since I don't get what they are supposed to follow or emphasize, you could try something like https://i.imgur.com/zAkr7Wc.jpg which works well with vocals and drums imo
00:46:983 - similar siggestion here to use a triple starting on 00:47:161 - instead


oni
00:18:581 (22,23,24) - mapping this triple like the one before doesn't seem too fitting since this has additional 1/4 melody. you could give something like https://i.imgur.com/eNQML5x.jpg a try to reflect the difference
00:29:942 (84,85,86) - same here


inner oni
00:18:581 (25,26,27) - similar to oni, this not being monocolor would be great for differentiation
also I don't really get why 00:29:232 - uses much more "complex" patterning even though both follow the same thing?
00:37:397 (155,156,157,158) - seems so overdone when you other 1/6 actually follow faster rhythms in the song. following the 1/4 in the song with a 1/4 triple seems much more fitting
00:46:273 - I think this stream feels a bit too similar to 00:34:912 - patterning wise. how about for example just using a kat at 00:46:362 - so it starts slightly different already?
01:35:622 - 1/1 gap when there is a noticeable pretty intense buzz seems so undermapped for this difficulty, why not at least add some 1/4?
Topic Starter
KamizonoShinobu

Consified wrote:

-.-

[General]
can u set oni hp to 5.5 seems little weird to compare muzu and oni >Pumped all diff's HP by 1

no ability to mod kantan and futsuu sorry i will give a star

[muzu]
00:03:670 (3,4,5,6) - D K D K?following the drum sound >Both arrangement works imo, no change to be consistent with other diffs' arrangement
00:08:995 (5) - K?sound higher than previous note >It is, in fact, lower than 00:08:640 (4) - tbh, therefore no change.
00:12:457 (21,22,23,24) - change kk k d?i think it is awkward to play for players who plays muzu,and you used dd d k here 00:38:374 (137,138,139,140) - >The current pattern is acceptable to be in Muzukashii
00:51:510 (197,198,199) - dd k? >Current pattern works better on emphasizing vocal.
01:13:255 - to 01:21:066 - part finishers seems very weird imo >It is quite clear about what fx I follow already
01:43:078 (3,4,5,6) - D K D K reason same as above >Same as above

[oni]
00:50:178 (211) - K? >The kick has no pitch. Therefore a D suits better than K
01:13:255 - to 01:21:066 - same reason
-.-i suck
[inner oni]
00:02:250 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - since it's inner oni,would u like to follow all the sound effect? ok nvm full spread consistency >The suggestion is possible, yet it doesn't fit the song's mood in the beginning.
00:25:770 - drum sound here >I can't hear anything here tbh
00:37:220 - d follow drum here >Retained in order to not cut the impact brought by the next 1/6. Moreover, the drum sound you highlighted is not obvious when it's played on full speed.
00:37:309 - ^
01:13:255 - to 01:21:066 -.-


GL for rank i suck modding
Thanks for mod.
Topic Starter
KamizonoShinobu

Lasse wrote:

why are oni and inner oni both using the same od? inner could be a bit higher (6.5?) so it's actually also more difficult accuracy wise >Lowered Oni's OD to 6 instead
hp5 on muzu seems a bit low here, I think 6 or 5.5 would work better

how about putting an ending spinner on all diffs? would fit the sound really well and if you add some green lines with progressively reducing volume it would be great



kantan
00:02:250 (1,2,3,4) - I don't really get your pattern here since there already is a much noticeable change on 00:03:670 -, so I think DDKK would work well while still being really simple >Yes, but I have to make a reasonable spread with Futsuu too, the pattern suggested is even harder than Futsuu ones
00:49:823 (78,79) - seems really weird as a lead into the chorus with how current starts only after the most pronounced sound and maps much less outstanding things. something like https://i.imgur.com/51USD7s.jpg would be nicer and you already have a huge rhythm gap just a second before at 00:42:013 (68,69) - anyway >imo the D has to be kept because there is a kick on that time stamp, but I will consider again if any other modder mention about this.
00:50:178 (79) - 01:24:261 (30) - having a finisher here but not at the start of the chorus feels really underwhelming :c >I know your concern, but there aren't any strong percussion sound on kiai start, for both. Finisher won't fit at this case
01:24:261 (30) - finish seems really overdone here, also the whole 5 note pattern feels a bit too connected even though song changes on, how about something like kkdkd ? >I did the same thing on 00:07:930 (1,2,3) - tho. No change for consistency on 1st kiai start.


futsuu
00:11:835 - music is so intense here, i think you could easily add something considering you already have a break at 00:14:676 - >Added a K
00:50:178 (141) - 01:24:261 (243) - same as kantan. also most likely applies to higher diffs >Same as Kantan
01:00:474 (180,181,182,183) - 01:01:894 (184,185,186,187) - are both mapped in the exact same way even though song is so different, how about changing 01:01:894 (184,185,186,187) - to dkdk or dkkd ? if you do the first then you can also make 01:03:31(188,189,190,191,192) - into ddkkd to get some more differentiation. or do something similar to 01:34:557 - which is bascially the same thing but executed better >Changed to dkdk. Not changing the 5plet as it express the vocal's pitch clearly.


muzukashii
00:10:238 (10,11,12) - don't really see why the triple would be here when the 1/4 on 00:10:593 - is so outstanding, I think doing https://i.imgur.com/orBG61L.jpg would fit better, considering the same sound repeats more intense on 00:11:658 (17,18,19) - where you mapped it as k triple, fully ignoring first time it happens seems weird. >The current patterns are fine for me tbh, as well it make reasonable spread with Oni.
00:34:912 - I don't think having the hardest pattern in the whole map in this part is very fitting, such a long chain of 1/2 and 1/4 rhythms which is even harder than the more intense parts of the song. there are multiple ways to handle this, how about deleting 00:36:155 (128) - which would also put nice emphasis on the vocalist change at 00:36:332 - . another solution would be simply deleting 00:35:711 (125,126) - >Applied 2nd suggestion.
00:42:013 - triple placement feels kinda unintutive here since I don't get what they are supposed to follow or emphasize, you could try something like https://i.imgur.com/zAkr7Wc.jpg which works well with vocals and drums imo >Applied but left 00:42:723 blank as neither d/k work well here.
00:46:983 - similar siggestion here to use a triple starting on 00:47:161 - instead >Made a 1/1 break before finisher


oni
00:18:581 (22,23,24) - mapping this triple like the one before doesn't seem too fitting since this has additional 1/4 melody. you could give something like https://i.imgur.com/eNQML5x.jpg a try to reflect the difference
00:29:942 (84,85,86) - same here >Made a overall change on these 2 parts


inner oni
00:18:581 (25,26,27) - similar to oni, this not being monocolor would be great for differentiation
also I don't really get why 00:29:232 - uses much more "complex" patterning even though both follow the same thing? >Tend to have variation here. The patterns are consistent, but the color scheme are different.
00:37:397 (155,156,157,158) - seems so overdone when you other 1/6 actually follow faster rhythms in the song. following the 1/4 in the song with a 1/4 triple seems much more fitting >It isn't overdone tbh, 1/6 works better than 1/4 on emphasizing the sound on 00:37:397 (155) -
00:46:273 - I think this stream feels a bit too similar to 00:34:912 - patterning wise. how about for example just using a kat at 00:46:362 - so it starts slightly different already? >Current arrangement is good enough to emphasize the increasing pitch.
01:35:622 - 1/1 gap when there is a noticeable pretty intense buzz seems so undermapped for this difficulty, why not at least add some 1/4? >imo a finisher can cover the whole buzz sound already
Thanks for modding.
Jerry
Hi Chocola! Really sorry for the late delivery of your mod ><"

  • [General]
  1. Add Aki Hata 畑亜貴 Shintarou Mori 森慎太郎 and Lantis to the tags, they're the lyricist, composer and record label respectively

  • [Futsuu]
    My only concern for this Futsuu is that there's not enough breaks between some patterns of high density, especially in the kiai time where there's almost no breaks at all.

    Here are my suggestions on notes to remove:
  1. 00:16:096 - Removing this will also allow for consistency with the gap that you set at 00:17:516 -

  2. 00:21:776 - ^ same

  3. 00:27:457 - ^ same

  4. 00:36:332 - I think following the drum beat in the music only for this part would be sufficient. Plus, you get a nice repeating pattern of small d-k followed by an immediate big D-K by removing this

  5. 00:52:841 - & 00:53:019 - I think a gap would be fine here

  6. 00:58:522 - & 00:58:699 - ^ Same

  7. 01:26:923 - ^ same for these two kats here

  8. 01:32:604 - ^ same

    I still feel that this difficulty is a bit too dense for a Futsuu tbh >< Recommend that you take a look through the diff once more and try to adjust your patterns abit to allow for more breathing time for the newbie players.
    A few parts to note would be the sections at 00:32:072 -, 00:37:752 - and 01:07:575 -.

  • [Muzukashii]
  1. 00:30:119 - Remove this for overall consistency of the 1/2 beat spaced 5-plet patterns for this section?

  2. 00:32:960 - I'd suggest removing this so that the note patterns lands on the strong beats of the music more, allowing for better flow. (Plus, it also goes well with Maki's voice)

  3. 00:34:202 - ^ Same reason, remove this? Mainly for consistency

  4. 00:41:480 - Remove this? It improves the flow imo

  5. 01:08:551 - Move this note over to 01:08:374 - for a general consistency with the upcoming two patterns at 01:09:705 - and 01:11:125 -?

  • [Oni]
  1. 00:31:362 (95,96,97,98,99) - how about a dkkdk for this instead? It's a better contrast to 00:30:652 (89,90,91,92,93) - imo

  2. 00:55:681 (246,247,248) - Try k-d-k? It has a more solid match with the music here as well as a nice "finish" to this section

  • [Inner Oni]
  1. 00:27:634 (82,83,84,85,86,87) - k d k d k d pattern here feels abit out of place and inconsistent with what you've done before at 00:16:273 - and 00:21:954 -. How about this pattern instead? It flows better with the music imo.

  2. 00:33:315 (125,126,127,128,129,130) - Same reason as above, I feel that a pattern like this would fit much better.

That's all from me, good luck!
salchow
oh, sry for late mod + graveyard ,-,

Kantan

00:02:250 (1,2,3,4) - use dkdk pattern or just have dddd instead, cause in my opinion the last k doesnt make any sence.

01:41:658 (1,2,3,4) - ^

00:36:155 (57) - d fits better, becuase there is a fade-out.

00:40:238 (64) - I think you should move this k to: 00:40:948 and change this 00:41:303 (66) to d, just to make a better pattern.

00:49:823 (77,78) - change this to dk, because it makes more build-up.

01:23:906 (29,30) - ^

00:59:054 (97) - change this to d, becuase of lower pitch.

01:33:136 (49) - ^

01:11:835 (16,17) - I would use kk insted of dk, because they sound pretty much the same.

01:17:516 (23) - change this k dosent make any sence because it ruins the "pattern" and there are no high pitch sound in that part.

01:47:338 (1,2) - change these two to kk because there are two sharp sounds and right here: 01:48:936 (3) more low pitch drum-like sound.



Futsuu

00:04:735 - I think you could add a k right there.

00:26:036 (60) - change this d to k because of the pitch.

00:32:782 (83) - ^ same reasons as the previus one. (change it to k)

00:35:977 (95,96,97,98,99) - I think that ddkkd fits better here.

01:00:119 (180) - I think you should change this to d and change these notes: 01:00:474 (181,182,183,184) to kkkk, becuase there is that HI!-HI!-HI!-HI! sound.

01:34:201 (282,283,284,285,286) - ^

01:01:894 (185,186,187,188) & 01:35:976 (287,288,289,290) - should repeat.

01:47:338 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - would be better if you reversed this part.



Muzukashii

00:12:457 (21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28) - I think that this part is way to complex for muzukashii. Make it more simplistic and easier to read.

00:37:042 (130) - Change this to d because of lower pitch.

01:47:338 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - reverse this pattern.
Topic Starter
KamizonoShinobu

Neppu wrote:

Hi Chocola! Really sorry for the late delivery of your mod ><"

  • [General]
  1. Add Aki Hata 畑亜貴 Shintarou Mori 森慎太郎 and Lantis to the tags, they're the lyricist, composer and record label respectively
>Fixed

  • [Futsuu]
    My only concern for this Futsuu is that there's not enough breaks between some patterns of high density, especially in the kiai time where there's almost no breaks at all. >imo they are fine as kiai parts are supposed to be denser than those in non-kiai parts

    Here are my suggestions on notes to remove:
  1. 00:16:096 - Removing this will also allow for consistency with the gap that you set at 00:17:516 -

  2. 00:21:776 - ^ same

  3. 00:27:457 - ^ same
    >No change to all 3, 1 break per 2 bars are more than sufficient tbh.
  4. 00:36:332 - I think following the drum beat in the music only for this part would be sufficient. Plus, you get a nice repeating pattern of small d-k followed by an immediate big D-K by removing this >Moved to 00:36:865 (99) - instead

  5. 00:52:841 - & 00:53:019 - I think a gap would be fine here >Rejected in order to be coherent with the vocal voice

  6. 00:58:522 - & 00:58:699 - ^ Same

  7. 01:26:923 - ^ same for these two kats here

  8. 01:32:604 - ^ same

    I still feel that this difficulty is a bit too dense for a Futsuu tbh >< Recommend that you take a look through the diff once more and try to adjust your patterns abit to allow for more breathing time for the newbie players.
    A few parts to note would be the sections at 00:32:072 -, 00:37:752 - and 01:07:575 -.

  • [Muzukashii]
  1. 00:30:119 - Remove this for overall consistency of the 1/2 beat spaced 5-plet patterns for this section? >Done

  2. 00:32:960 - I'd suggest removing this so that the note patterns lands on the strong beats of the music more, allowing for better flow. (Plus, it also goes well with Maki's voice)

  3. 00:34:202 - ^ Same reason, remove this? Mainly for consistency

  4. 00:41:480 - Remove this? It improves the flow imo >Done

  5. 01:08:551 - Move this note over to 01:08:374 - for a general consistency with the upcoming two patterns at 01:09:705 - and 01:11:125 -?>Nerfed instead

  • [Oni]
  1. 00:31:362 (95,96,97,98,99) - how about a dkkdk for this instead? It's a better contrast to 00:30:652 (89,90,91,92,93) - imo >This is about personal preference tbh, I think kkdkd could do a reflection with 00:30:652 (89,90,91,92,93) - better. dkkdk makes it dull to play.

  2. 00:55:681 (246,247,248) - Try k-d-k? It has a more solid match with the music here as well as a nice "finish" to this section >Current pattern plays better.

  • [Inner Oni]
  1. 00:27:634 (82,83,84,85,86,87) - k d k d k d pattern here feels abit out of place and inconsistent with what you've done before at 00:16:273 - and 00:21:954 -. How about this pattern instead? It flows better with the music imo. >2 parts belongs to different vocalist, therefore variation can be applied. At least it is still consistent on note arrangement.

  2. 00:33:315 (125,126,127,128,129,130) - Same reason as above, I feel that a pattern like this would fit much better.

That's all from me, good luck!
Thanks for mod
Topic Starter
KamizonoShinobu

salchow wrote:

oh, sry for late mod + graveyard ,-,

Kantan

00:02:250 (1,2,3,4) - use dkdk pattern or just have dddd instead, cause in my opinion the last k doesnt make any sence.

01:41:658 (1,2,3,4) - ^ >Basically simplified version of Futsuu+ patterns

00:36:155 (57) - d fits better, becuase there is a fade-out. >No change to maintain consistency with higher difficulties.

00:40:238 (64) - I think you should move this k to: 00:40:948 and change this 00:41:303 (66) to d, just to make a better pattern. >Ye I guess it worked well

00:49:823 (77,78) - change this to dk, because it makes more build-up. >No change, kd represent the pitch trend well already.

01:23:906 (29,30) - ^

00:59:054 (97) - change this to d, becuase of lower pitch. >In fact 00:58:344 (96,97) - share the same pitch.

01:33:136 (49) - ^

01:11:835 (16,17) - I would use kk insted of dk, because they sound pretty much the same. >Reason I used dk is because to keep consistency with higher diffs on color scheme.

01:17:516 (23) - change this k dosent make any sence because it ruins the "pattern" and there are no high pitch sound in that part. >Changing this note to d makes gameplay experience boring because of long monocolor arrangement.

01:47:338 (1,2) - change these two to kk because there are two sharp sounds and right here: 01:48:936 (3) more low pitch drum-like sound. >No change to keep consistency with higher diffs on color scheme.



Futsuu

00:04:735 - I think you could add a k right there. >Left empty for a 2/1 break

00:26:036 (60) - change this d to k because of the pitch. >00:25:681 (59,60) - has a downward pitch flow, kd works better.

00:32:782 (83) - ^ same reasons as the previus one. (change it to k)

00:35:977 (95,96,97,98,99) - I think that ddkkd fits better here. >Current arrangement express the pitch of the vocal well already, further changing it is redundant.

01:00:119 (180) - I think you should change this to d and change these notes: 01:00:474 (181,182,183,184) to kkkk, becuase there is that HI!-HI!-HI!-HI! sound. >Current arrangement is fine imo. Monocolor arrangement is boring to be played

01:34:201 (282,283,284,285,286) - ^

01:01:894 (185,186,187,188) & 01:35:976 (287,288,289,290) - should repeat. >Made some adjustment to achieve consistency.

01:47:338 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - would be better if you reversed this part. >Any stronger reason for this statement?



Muzukashii

00:12:457 (21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28) - I think that this part is way to complex for muzukashii. Make it more simplistic and easier to read. >iirc this arrangement is allowed in muzukashii, maybe I'm wrong tho. I will fix this if another modder tells the same problem.

00:37:042 (130) - Change this to d because of lower pitch. >00:36:332 (124,125,126,127) - Clearly has a upward pitch trend

01:47:338 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - reverse this pattern.
Thanks for modding.
Smallwu
Hi from queue. NICONICONICONICONICONICONICONICONICONICONICONICONICONICONICONICONI

[Kantan]
  1. 00:14:321 - How about add a KAT like other diffs? Imo here's a little empty.
  2. 01:08:995 (12,14) - Ctrl+G? d d d or d d d k are quite strange at here in Kantan. Then how about follow the high-pitched sound at 01:08:995?
[Futsuu]

  • [!]I think add SVs in Futsuu is a little dangerous. (?)
  1. 00:04:025 (4) - Don't use Finisher. Main sound is (1)(2)(3)(5), so I think Finisher is unneeded here.
  2. 00:11:125 (12,13,14) - k k d? The structure is "d k d", but make something different is fine.
  3. 00:36:687 (98) - Idk, these "NICOs" sound so fucking similar. But I think (98) sounds like (99). So, make it DON?
  4. 01:43:433 (4) - Same as the first suggestion.
[Muzukashii]
  1. OoOps i can't find anything D::::::::::::::::
Woow this is soo hard2mod4me.
Gooood Luck!
Topic Starter
KamizonoShinobu

Smallwu wrote:

Hi from queue. NICONICONICONICONICONICONICONICONICONICONICONICONICONICONICONICONI

[Kantan]
  1. 00:14:321 - How about add a KAT like other diffs? Imo here's a little empty. >4/1 breaks are necessary in Kantan
  2. 01:08:995 (12,14) - Ctrl+G? d d d or d d d k are quite strange at here in Kantan. Then how about follow the high-pitched sound at 01:08:995? >It's my habit to start a bar usually with d
[Futsuu]

  • [!]I think add SVs in Futsuu is a little dangerous. (?) >Should be capable with this SV, I'll delete SV if other modder tells the same.
  1. 00:04:025 (4) - Don't use Finisher. Main sound is (1)(2)(3)(5), so I think Finisher is unneeded here. >It's too subjective to determine the primary sounds. imo 00:04:025 (4) - is necessary to give a spread btw kantan and muzukashii
  2. 00:11:125 (12,13,14) - k k d? The structure is "d k d", but make something different is fine. >No change to be consistent with higher difficulties.
  3. 00:36:687 (98) - Idk, these "NICOs" sound so fucking similar. But I think (98) sounds like (99). So, make it DON? >Current pattern can express the upward pitch of the instruments by enough extent.
  4. 01:43:433 (4) - Same as the first suggestion.
[Muzukashii]
  1. OoOps i can't find anything D::::::::::::::::
Woow this is soo hard2mod4me.
Gooood Luck!
Thanks for modding.
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