1. Extravaganza V2 (5.29 stars, 428 notes)
2. Extravaganza (5.26 stars, 428 notes)
3. Hard (3.48 stars, 284 notes)
4. Insane (4.64 stars, 396 notes)
5. Normal (2 stars, 141 notes)

1. add Deemo to source
2. add NICODE, M2UStudio, Rayark to tags
3. I wonder this BG suits for this song
4. BG size must not exceed 1920x1200. I recommend resizing it to 1366x768.

1. 5star OD7?

2. DeviousPanda wrote:

   i know the emphasis on the kiai is overmapped, but thats kind of the point

   yes. thats kind of the point. and you also know that this is overmapped.
   But this is too much.
   However, if this map does not aim at the rank and just wants to have fun, I'm in favor.
3. 00:18:021 (1) - blanket plz
4. 00:23:164 (4) - blanket plz
5. 00:24:021 (2) - How about extending this slider to blue tick?
6. I think distance between 00:53:164 (1,2) - these two notes should be shorter than 00:54:021 (1,2) - these.
7. 01:27:021 (1,2) - How about Increasing distances between notes a bit?
8. I didn't check kiai part since my opinions might conflict with your concept n quite not sure you mapped this for ranked or just for fun.

Lastopia wrote:

Lastopia's Wicked Mod
NM from #modreqs

[General]

1. add Deemo to source
2. add NICODE, M2UStudio, Rayark to tags
3. I wonder this BG suits for this song
4. BG size must not exceed 1920x1200. I recommend resizing it to 1366x768.

done

[Extravaganza]

1. 5star OD7? changed to od 8

2. DeviousPanda wrote:

   i know the emphasis on the kiai is overmapped, but thats kind of the point

   yes. thats kind of the point. and you also know that this is overmapped.
   But this is too much. yeah, im gonna think about nerfing a few patterns, but the general idea is going to stay the same
   However, if this map does not aim at the rank and just wants to have fun, I'm in favor. if im going for ranked im going to see how rankable this is, it would be cool if it got ranked like this but i doubt it
3. 00:18:021 (1) - blanket plz done
4. 00:23:164 (4) - blanket plz i dont see a point to blanket this, as there isnt a circle/sliferend i can blanket it to
5. 00:24:021 (2) - How about extending this slider to blue tick? done
6. I think distance between 00:53:164 (1,2) - these two notes should be shorter than 00:54:021 (1,2) - these. i think its fine
7. 01:27:021 (1,2) - How about Increasing distances between notes a bit? i think this works well, its easily readable as 1/4 sliders and it shows the transition to the slow section quite well
8. I didn't check kiai part since my opinions might conflict with your concept n quite not sure you mapped this for ranked or just for fun.might go for ranked, depends on if i have the time to map a full spread

I love this song <33, I love this map. <3333
But i want you to think about the kiai part. yea it neds a small nerf at least

I like your idea of making the slider sharper at the kiai part.
It's a really good map. Good luck!

sorry for short mod.

aaronboon wrote:

Insane

00:22:628 (2,1,2,3,4,1) - the stream covers the start of the slider making it unreadable if u really want to use this kind of pattern make the circle bigger so they dont cover the slider fixed
01:39:771 (7,1,2,3,4) - whats with the weird spacing for this stream? this is more of a visual thing here, the spacing here doesnt affect playability massively and im using this weird spacing to show the end/climax of the song here
00:34:307 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - this pattern is hard to read. this pattern i have here is a main concept throughout the map, i use it first here 00:15:664 (4,5,1,2,3,4,1) - where the slider maked it easier to hit because you can hit it later, then i repeat this pattern to get the player used to it throughout the map including here 00:27:878 (3,4,5,6,1) - so this changes the pattern from something that would be unreadable on its own to something you can predict because youve seen it thoughout the map so far
00:41:164 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - ^
01:04:093 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1) - ^
01:07:735 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1) - ^ ive already explained my use of these paterns as a core concept throughout the map
01:13:307 (3,1) - this jump is too hard for insane and its unexpected making it difficult to hit to me this seems like one of the easiest jumps to hit because of the slider leniency, not a problem imo and with all the insane jump maps this jump is pretty tame compared to them so this isnt too hard for an insane

theres a huge difficulty spike during kiai time might wanna nerf it a little if possible, i dont think that the difficulty spike in the kiai is that huge, and fits the song
I like what ur going for with this diff but ur streams are oddly designed thats the point and its uncomfortable to hit and this diff is very unreadable. already explained the readibility

tseegus wrote:

I think there is nothing more to edit in your map.
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well, if only this (on Insane diff) 00:57:450 (3) - useless note. Without this part 00:57:021 (2,3) - u can make a slider for 3 time slices the white tick here does hava a sound on it, this isnt a useless note
cool map dude)

M4M

Mari Ohara wrote:

M4M

Extravaganza

01:13:092 (1,2,3) - I would move the 1st circle upward like a perfect pyramid nope, im emphasising the sound on 3 with a bigger spacing here 01:13:200 (2,3) - than the first two notes
01:16:521 (2,1) - srsly fixed the overlap lmao
01:19:521 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - this part seems very confusing it flows reall well for me, but this is one of the patterns that im not to sure on so if i get a better suggestion for these later on then ill change it
00:09:878 (4) - you can clearly hear a triple here like this part 00:10:735 (3) - nope, not really, it could be interpreted either way
00:35:164 (1) - clap sound like in kiai time ?? go listen to the hitsounds without music, this is used reguarly at this point in the map
00:38:164 (1,2) - aren't you going too far with the ds ?? nah, the song calls for it imo
01:03:021 (1) - it would be cool if you did something with this cool sound like in kiai time the whole point of the map is to have the calm part of the chorus flow well and the intense part (kiai parts) to require alopt of snapping, so im not doing this in the kiai
01:09:878 (1) - ^ ^
01:05:057 (4,1) - jumping from 0.75 to 1.50 woa isn't that a little bit too much, this part isn't even that intense point of the map, it may be a tiny bit too hig so i might reduce it to like 1.2 in the future

Insane

Change OD to 7.5 ?? done
00:09:878 (4) - you did the same thing here avoiding the triple how about decreasing the slider velocity before the next part ? having a note here or not is quite subjective, there is a noise here but i want the clean break for more emphasis on the start tof hte new measure
01:03:021 (3) - i really want to hold this circle, same here 01:09:878 (3) - yeah, but the gimick of the chorus is that the calm part doesnt have sliders, so it transitions with the kiai part better, so im not chnging this

That's a really cool map thanks! uwu i would definitely play it when it gets ranked good luck gl with your map too!

Nekoraw wrote:

nm
Extravaganza
- 00:13:307 (3) - i think this slider is a little bit too away from 00:13:092 (2) - and these ones 01:36:235 (2,3) - lowered spacing
- 01:06:235 (1,2,3) - these three circles break the flow of the map; 01:13:092 (1,2,3) - these are fine, since theres a empty tick before them ive lowered a bit of the spacing here, but kept the rhythm the same

Insane
- i would ctrl+g these two cirlces 01:13:092 (1,2) - to get a better flow nope, this pattern 01:13:092 (1,2,3) - is the opposite flow of this triangle 01:12:664 (4,5,6) - to help emphasise the start of the kiai section here
- 01:27:450 (3,4,5,6) - i would change these type of sliders because they are a little bit hard to read this looks bad in the editor but its easily readable when playing the map

Hard
- hard players would be confused with these type of sliders 00:10:307 (1,2,3,4) - i think that because its at the start of the map, if its hard to read then players can retry once or twice to get the concept down, whic is somewhat of a theme throughout the map and in the kiai like here 01:17:807 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - and here 01:24:664 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
- i would decrease the ar to AR7 or even AR6,5 nah, hard diffs usually have 7.5 to 8, and i like ar8 on this diff

Avoid using combo colors, slider borders or hitcircleoverlays with ~50 luminosity or lower. Dark colors like these impact readability of approach circles with low background dim and the other elements partially give up their functions as borders.
Avoid using combo colors with ~220 luminosity or higher during kiai times. They create bright pulses which can be unpleasant to the eyes.

Every slider must have a clear and visible path to follow from start to end. Sliders which overlap themselves in a way that makes any section unreadable or ambiguous cannot be used, such as burai sliders and hold sliders without straightforward slider borders. When perfectly overlapping two slider bodies, the first slider must be fully faded out before the second slider is fully faded in.

6th wrote:

Hi !

[General stuff]
Please avoid using pure white and dark as combo colours.

Avoid using combo colors, slider borders or hitcircleoverlays with ~50 luminosity or lower. Dark colors like these impact readability of approach circles with low background dim and the other elements partially give up their functions as borders.
Avoid using combo colors with ~220 luminosity or higher during kiai times. They create bright pulses which can be unpleasant to the eyes.

https://osu.ppy.sh/help/wiki/Ranking_Criteria/osu!

ive changed the luminosity to fill the ranking criteria

[Extravaganza]
00:04:735 (4,1) - Things like this are unrankable.

Every slider must have a clear and visible path to follow from start to end. Sliders which overlap themselves in a way that makes any section unreadable or ambiguous cannot be used, such as burai sliders and hold sliders without straightforward slider borders. When perfectly overlapping two slider bodies, the first slider must be fully faded out before the second slider is fully faded in.

https://osu.ppy.sh/help/wiki/Ranking_Criteria/osu! fixed
00:15:021 (5) - I know there is a sound on that blue tick but there's no point mapping it, players won't even notice it. It is inconsistent by the way, because you ignore that same sounds on ticks like 00:14:271 - 00:09:128 - etc. Just make that slider 00:15:021 (5) - 1/2 like these 00:14:592 (3,3) - and it will play much much better. done
00:16:307 (1,1) - This is super annoying tbh. With that shape 00:16:307 (1) - you compell the player to move his cursor slower but the next slider has high spacing which makes the pattern completely paradoxal. You may want to change either the spacing or the shape of the slider. ive made this long slider end on the red tick instead, so more time is given to hit the next slider
00:19:735 (1) - Giving that much impact to the violin with such long slider feels really awkward when you slightly map it just before 00:17:164 (1,1) - . the sound at 00:17:164 (1,1) - clearly has a steady 1/2 rythmn, but the sound at 00:19:735 (1) - has no beats, so ive emphasized the lull in sound by using one extended slider
00:24:878 (2) - Shouldn't this slider be extended to blue tick ? theres a held violin sound on this slider 00:24:021 (2) - that continues onto the next note but the violin sound on this note 00:24:878 (2) - stops before the blue tick
00:33:879 (4,5,1,2,3,4,1) - They feel a bit clustered, mind spacing them a bit more ? done
00:35:164 (1) - CTRL+G, that anti-flow doesn't seem to make any sense its used for emphasis to show the end of this section, i know its a tiny bit too hard/unreadable so i might change it soon, im not too sure
00:59:592 - NCs are super weird here. You give priority to the violin according to your mapping but your NCs are following the piano. the NC's are there for a specific reason, as you said they specify the piano, ive mapped the violin here with high increases in spacing for whenever a piano note is played (at all NCs), for example theres no reason for this big spacing here without the piano 01:02:164 (3,1) - but ive used this way of mapping to use both instruments at the same time
01:00:664 (1,1) - Deserves more spacing to keep flow smooth.
01:02:378 (1,2) - Same. my reasoning for these last two points is that im only using big spacing when theres a piano note, so keeping spacing small here is the point
01:05:807 (1,2,1,2,3) - Not sure of how it is supposed to play, those angles look really sharp. You may want to rework those circles 01:06:235 (1,2,3) - done
01:12:664 (4,1,2) - Could look better, move (2) a bit done, maybe?

Good luck. thanks!

1. 00:14:592 (3,5) - 00:14:914 (4,2) - how about consistent visual spacing for these? would work better for visual aspect
2. 00:14:914 (4,1) - i didn't get why you didn't put nc in the first case but did in the second, seems like an inconsistency
3. 00:16:307 (1) - i usually expect some kind of impact from the music for such sliders, but there it seems like you just used this shape for aesthetical purposes, but is it a good idea considering the fact that it affects gameplay?
4. 00:24:021 (2,3) - i honestly don't have any idea on how player could understand that (2) is an extended slider. Spacing doesn't tell much, this 1/4 gap look extremely similar to 1/2 from before (00:19:735 (1,1) - ,00:23:164 (4,1) - , etc.)
5. 00:28:307 (4) - nc? cause musically this sound more belongs to next object rather than previous one. probably should delete nc on 00:28:735 (1) -
6. 00:35:057 (4,1) - gap between these might be far too sudden
7. 00:37:735 (1,2,1,2) - don't you think this spacing is pretty extreme for the calm part? o.o Previous section was far more intense but spacing was lesser
8. 00:45:450 (1,1,1,1,1) - are these sounds that outstanding that they even deserve their own combo each?
9. 01:05:164 (1) - 01:06:021 (2) - there are no snares in music on the heads of these things o.o

1. 00:22:307 (1,2) - this may be hard to read
2. 00:23:164 (1,3) - this is kinda ugly :c
3. 00:39:878 (3,4,1) - this spacing is really unintuitive. 1/2 and 1/4 gaps look the same
4. 01:16:307 (1,1) - rc says "don't make such stuff"
5. 01:27:450 (3) - nc

1. 00:16:092 (3,1) - uh, i'm pretty sure players at this skill level aren't able to play such stuff. 00:22:735 (3,1) - same
2. 00:35:164 (3) - nc (at lleast you nced in "insane")
3. 00:57:450 (4,2) - it doesn't look very nice..
4. 00:59:592 - why undermapping violin(?) here?
5. 01:05:164 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - this is not "hard" level, i'm quite sure..
6. 01:18:021 (3,4,5,6) - unreadable for "hard" players

1. 00:12:021 (3,1) - how about having 1.00x ds between these? equal visual spacing thing, works well for aaesthetics
2. 00:29:164 - having 2/1 empty gaps in this section feels quite underwhelming cause music is rather intense
3. 00:39:450 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - how about make something visually appealing here?
4. 00:42:878 (1,2,3,1) - 01:34:307 (1,3) - oh, these are too close, try to keep visual spacing consistent all the time, this way map would look muh neater
5. 01:24:878 (3,4,1) - blanket could be better
6. 01:36:021 (3,4,1) - really unpolished. blanket is off, stack is off

h4d0uk3n1 wrote:

Hi, m4m from #modreqs here

extravaganza:

1. 00:14:592 (3,5) - 00:14:914 (4,2) - how about consistent visual spacing for these? would work better for visual aspect done
2. 00:14:914 (4,1) - i didn't get why you didn't put nc in the first case but did in the second, seems like an inconsistency fixed
3. 00:16:307 (1) - i usually expect some kind of impact from the music for such sliders, but there it seems like you just used this shape for aesthetical purposes, but is it a good idea considering the fact that it affects gameplay? the sound here is a held sound which distorts a bit halfway through the slider, which is shown by the distortion in the slider
4. 00:24:021 (2,3) - i honestly don't have any idea on how player could understand that (2) is an extended slider. Spacing doesn't tell much, this 1/4 gap look extremely similar to 1/2 from before (00:19:735 (1,1) - ,00:23:164 (4,1) - , etc.) not really the same sounds, and even if this is a 1/4 gap its perfectly playable thanks to the low bpm, also the music calls for it there
5. 00:28:307 (4) - nc? cause musically this sound more belongs to next object rather than previous one. probably should delete nc on 00:28:735 (1) - fixed
6. 00:35:057 (4,1) - gap between these might be far too sudden i really like this here, it emphasizes the stop in the music perfectly and slider leniency means that its not as hard to hit
7. 00:37:735 (1,2,1,2) - don't you think this spacing is pretty extreme for the calm part? o.o Previous section was far more intense but spacing was lesser these two sections show intensity in different ways, yes the jumps are a bit high but its a different way of showing emphasis with the strong 1/2 beat here with no background sound
8. 00:45:450 (1,1,1,1,1) - are these sounds that outstanding that they even deserve their own combo each? y e s, imo this fits well
9. 01:05:164 (1) - 01:06:021 (2) - there are no snares in music on the heads of these things o.o im new to hitsounding but im using the hitsounds more to accompany the abrupt rise in intensity in these sections

insane:

1. 00:22:307 (1,2) - this may be hard to read yea maybe, to me its fine though
2. 00:23:164 (1,3) - this is kinda ugly :c fixed the overlap but apart from that im keeping this
3. 00:39:878 (3,4,1) - this spacing is really unintuitive. 1/2 and 1/4 gaps look the same fixed this issue
4. 01:16:307 (1,1) - rc says "don't make such stuff" "without putting a warning in the description" so im going to do that if your talking about the sv below .5x
5. 01:27:450 (3) - nc nah this is fine

hard:

1. 00:16:092 (3,1) - uh, i'm pretty sure players at this skill level aren't able to play such stuff. 00:22:735 (3,1) - same explained below
2. 00:35:164 (3) - nc (at lleast you nced in "insane") nah, an NC here would make the previous combo a two note combo which doesnt work here
3. 00:57:450 (4,2) - it doesn't look very nice.. it looks fine when you play it, the editor does make it look a bit bad though
4. 00:59:592 - why undermapping violin(?) here? because i want a lot of emphasis on this note here 01:00:021 (1) - and a small gap here creates that emphasis
5. 01:05:164 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - this is not "hard" level, i'm quite sure.. slightly nerfed but im keeping this in
6. 01:18:021 (3,4,5,6) - unreadable for "hard" players moved the stack to a slight overlap to help readability

My intention for this diff was to make one between the insane and normal diffs, but i didnt map it specifically as a hard diff, i just mapped to what i thought the song called for, so the one or two elements i used that go above a "hard" players skill level fit the intensity of the song and are what the map calls for imo, if you want i could rename it to hyper to show that its a bit harder idk

normal:

1. 00:12:021 (3,1) - how about having 1.00x ds between these? equal visual spacing thing, works well for aaesthetics nah this is ok for me
2. 00:29:164 - having 2/1 empty gaps in this section feels quite underwhelming cause music is rather intense not too sure about this, i will change it if it is an issue later but right now im ok with leaving it as it is
3. 00:39:450 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - how about make something visually appealing here? done
4. 00:42:878 (1,2,3,1) - 01:34:307 (1,3) - oh, these are too close, try to keep visual spacing consistent all the time, this way map would look muh neater im keeping the first one the same but i fixed the second one
5. 01:24:878 (3,4,1) - blanket could be better done
6. 01:36:021 (3,4,1) - really unpolished. blanket is off, stack is off fixed

Hope I helped. My map for m4m - https://osu.ppy.sh/s/673494. Good luck!