Zekk - Calling · forum

Sulfur

Joined December 2014

Sulfur 2017-10-13T09:58:44+00:00

i cant mod

top diff
00:33:342 (3,4,1) i dont thng that linear flow on those fits for this calm section in the contect of the map, i think something similar to this would work a little bit better
01:54:675 (1,2,1,2) - just an idea but maybe try somethng like this just so those things are different from 01:40:675 (3,4,5) - visually

hard
00:58:842 - 01:10:009 (2) - dont really understand why u ignoring those things here, u mapping them at 01:41:509 - and 01:52:175 - anyway

winber
00:22:675 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - perhaps u could try something similar to this to separate 00:22:675 (1,2,1,2) - and 00:23:342 (1,2,1,2) -

-Tochi

Elite Storyboarder

1,444 posts

Joined November 2013

-Tochi 2017-10-13T19:26:36+00:00

sry im kinda late o/

well there's no AR9 in this mapset lol.

[Iridescent]

00:49:842 (9,1) - I recommend you to switch NCs here, it feels more neutral for this pattern. The reason is because of the overlap here 00:49:842 (9,10,1) - It seems kinda messy when the NC is on the white tick. But enabling the NC on the start of the stream will make it seem less messy.
00:55:842 (1) - Ctrl+g this? It will be more consistent so it's the same like this one 01:38:509 (1) -
01:03:175 (3) - 01:13:842 (3) - NC here? You did it on these as well: 00:57:842 (1) - 01:08:509 (1) - and they kinda have the same sounds.
01:32:509 (9,1) - I think you know what I will say here xd. You should swap the NCs here if you swapped the last one.
01:58:342 - I recommend you to do like this instead: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9307719

[winber1's Special Extra]

00:42:342 (1,2,1,2,1) - This looks nice but I'm not sure if it does feel good to play flow-wise. Maybe you could do ctrl+g on these? 00:42:342 (1,2) -
00:48:009 (1) - Ctrl+g here seems to play better imo. I think you should consider it. It will fit with the rest of the pattern's flow
00:57:175 (3,1) - I suggest you to move this to here: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9307761 or here: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9307768 to avoid the tiny overlap.
01:06:759 - Why did you skip the noticeable sound here? I highly recommend you to map it.

[Regou's Extra]

00:39:509 (1) - I think it would look and feel better to make the curve flow upwards instead of downwards, so the direction is on the way to the next object.
00:41:842 (4) - Right now the slider is too close to the triplet. Moving this to somewhere like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9307891 will feel less awkward to play.
00:50:342 (4) - This slider could be more improved like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9307923 because right now it seems kinda off.

[Komore's Extra]

Couldn't really find anything worth mentioning.

[Mirash's Another]

Why is this only AR8? I strongly recommend you to change it to AR9 as it's an "Another" and there's no AR9 diffs, so this will fit to be AR9.
00:32:925 - Add a circle here that stacks on 00:33:009 (1) - and then swap NCs? It sounds undermapped to skip that strong bass kick sound. Also you will keep the consistency since you did it here 00:43:592 (1) - as well.
01:40:509 (1) - I recommend to you to move this to somewhere like: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9308160 it plays better imo.
01:49:009 (1) - Also perhaps move this to: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9308168 for better visuals.
01:50:009 (1,2,3) - Lowering the spacing in this pattern seems unreasonable to me because the sound gets higher, so reverting it will fit better to the music.You could stack this 01:50:175 (2) - on this' head 01:51:342 (3) - and the move 01:50:342 (3) - to somewhere like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9308190 or keep the same distance as 01:50:009 (1,2) -
01:52:342 (3,4) - I think this is intentional, but the spacing here is the same spacing as 01:52:842 (1,1,1,1) - but the beat divisor is not the same which might lead to confusion. So moving 01:52:675 (4) - further away from 01:52:342 (3) - will fix it. If you changed it then remember to also move this 01:56:509 (3) -

Cool map, good luck with it!

NeilPerry

301 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

NeilPerry 2017-10-14T06:16:55+00:00

Sulfur and Tochi

Sulfur wrote:
i cant mod

top diff
00:33:342 (3,4,1) i dont thng that linear flow on those fits for this calm section in the contect of the map, i think something similar to this would work a little bit better oh, i like that kind of movements D:
01:54:675 (1,2,1,2) - just an idea but maybe try somethng like this just so those things are different from 01:40:675 (3,4,5) - visually nah. it's perfectly fit to music

hard
00:58:842 - 01:10:009 (2) - dont really understand why u ignoring those things here, u mapping them at 01:41:509 - and 01:52:175 - anyway different parts, different emphasizes, different variations

-Tochi wrote:
sry im kinda late o/

well there's no AR9 in this mapset lol.

[Iridescent]
00:49:842 (9,1) - I recommend you to switch NCs here, it feels more neutral for this pattern. The reason is because of the overlap here 00:49:842 (9,10,1) - It seems kinda messy when the NC is on the white tick. But enabling the NC on the start of the stream will make it seem less messy.
00:55:842 (1) - Ctrl+g this? It will be more consistent so it's the same like this one 01:38:509 (1) -
01:03:175 (3) - 01:13:842 (3) - NC here? You did it on these as well: 00:57:842 (1) - 01:08:509 (1) - and they kinda have the same sounds.
01:32:509 (9,1) - I think you know what I will say here xd. You should swap the NCs here if you swapped the last one.
01:58:342 - I recommend you to do like this instead: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9307719

Cool map, good luck with it!

No reply - fixed.

Thanks a lot!

faygo

283 posts

Joined November 2014

faygo 2017-10-15T03:40:57+00:00

nm!!
sorry for being late tho

[Reiji]
00:43:842 (6): pretty hard to read, maybe place it somewhere like this? https://i.imgur.com/hXijiW4.jpg
01:37:009 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7): consider shortening (1) by 1/4 and adding a circle at 01:37:342, somehow i feel thats easier to read because the spacing structure is more clearer
01:39:842 (1): (subjective) looks pretty ugly having this slider protruding downwards, consider moving (2) a bit downwards to not let (1) stick out
01:57:842 (4): NC this given that u NCed 01:58:342 for coherency?

while reading challenge can be a cool gimmick i dont think nor feel that your trying to make this a gimmick in this map, as the entire map just feels like an ordinary map but with some particularly confusing patterns lol

[Mirash]
00:52:342 (1): might just be inconsistencies, but i would arguably start the stream earlier for 01:35:342 compared with 00:52:342, instead of the opposite (what you're doing now), cuz i kinda notice a slightly bigger volume decrease and background noise for 01:35:342. Plus, any reasons why u use a decreasing spacing for 00:52:342 but an increasing spacing for 01:35:342?
01:00:009 (1): whatever sound ur trying to represent here, i dont think a 3/2 beat slider works well in this kiai section
01:39:342 (1,2,3,4,5): honestly find this really aids to play, same with 01:42:925 (6,7,8). even if your object placements revolve on sticking sliders i feel that it can be done much better

[Komore]
00:30:009 (1,2,3,4): if ur trying to map the slightly glitchy sound at least map that also for 00:40:675 (3,4)
00:57:009 (1,2): similarly, if ur emphasizing the pitch difference through the spacing maybe do so also for 01:07:675 (1,2)? ur spacing for 01:07:675 is the same as 01:02:342 (1,2) but the latter doesn have that pitch difference so it makes sense, but not quite for 01:07:675
01:57:675 (3): i think the slider works better by curving it the other direction, plus is there any reason to use uncomfortable flow here anyway

[Regou]
00:54:675 (1): if im not mistaken i think ur trying to create a contrast between the intro and the cool slider stuff in the kiai with this slider, but i think ur missing out a lot of sounds with it, plus it feels really awkward. I think using a low sv green tick while mapping to the sounds might work better (for example, using reverse sliders to map 00:55:342 to 00:55:675 ?)
01:49:175 (2,3,4,5): if ur representing the ah sound remove 1 circle maybe, while if ur representing the "plucking" or whatever sound at the background maybe add 1 circle then

nothing much to say zz

skip winber cuz looks really hard to mod, but really cool diff tho

[Iridescent]
00:31:009 (3,4,5): i think using a similar pattern like 00:25:342 (3,4,5) would represent the song better, cuz with ur current pattern it feels like ur emphasizing (5) but the sound isn really distinctive nor is it like a higher pitch or sth
00:55:842 (1): is this nc necessary
01:33:175 (7,8,1,2): this flow is a bit aids lol

no kds if my suggestions are not helpful, cuz this is pretty hard to mod ><
shot a star anyway, gl with ranking~~

Reiji-RJ

1,402 posts

Joined April 2010

Reiji-RJ 2017-10-15T10:33:07+00:00

Faygor wrote:
[Reiji]
00:43:842 (6): pretty hard to read, maybe place it somewhere like this? https://i.imgur.com/hXijiW4.jpg no
01:37:009 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7): consider shortening (1) by 1/4 and adding a circle at 01:37:342, somehow i feel thats easier to read because the spacing structure is more clearer sure, fixed!
01:39:842 (1): (subjective) looks pretty ugly having this slider protruding downwards, consider moving (2) a bit downwards to not let (1) stick out not ugly for me :<
01:57:842 (4): NC this given that u NCed 01:58:342 for coherency? no

while reading challenge can be a cool gimmick i dont think nor feel that your trying to make this a gimmick in this map, as the entire map just feels like an ordinary map but with some particularly confusing patterns lol

Thank you

schoolboy

571 posts

Joined July 2016

schoolboy 2017-10-15T13:32:28+00:00

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121,209,120009,1,8,1:2:0:0:

didnt fix the first one bcs they are kinda different imo
thanks faygor

NeilPerry

301 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

NeilPerry 2017-10-15T15:16:39+00:00

Faygor wrote:
nm!!

[Iridescent]
00:31:009 (3,4,5): i think using a similar pattern like 00:25:342 (3,4,5) would represent the song better, cuz with ur current pattern it feels like ur emphasizing (5) but the sound isn really distinctive nor is it like a higher pitch or sth just sort of variation
00:55:842 (1): is this nc necessary ya sure, big sv gap
01:33:175 (7,8,1,2): this flow is a bit aids lol uhh, it's okaysh for me

Thanks!

Mirash

Beatmap Nominator

705 posts

Joined June 2013

Mirash 2017-10-15T16:52:47+00:00

tochi

01:49:009 (1) - Also perhaps move this to: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9308168 for better visuals. i like current more
and about last i think music gives enough feedback on whats going on with the snapping

Faygor

i don't think this is so important, differences in spacing is to highlight changes in music
3/2 brigns nice effect i want to keep
it plays ok for me lol

Regou

1,916 posts

Joined July 2010

Regou 2017-10-15T19:05:25+00:00

toybot wrote:
hi o3oooooooo

[regou]
00:41:842 (4,1) - these are too similar, u should make more of a contrast w/ the previous slider like you do at 00:39:009 (3,1) - alright should be better now
01:06:342 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - not a fan of the fact that the kickslider drops off to this when the others directly lead in idk I can't think of other way to handle it right now maybe i'll keep it first ;w;
01:17:342 (1) - aw, would've been cool stacked on 01:16:009 (5) - :c I tried it but the overlap between 01:16:342 (1) and this doesnt looks good ;w; however I stacked 01:17:342 (1) - on 01:16:009 (5) - to make the pattern looks less irregular
01:49:509 - why leave this one drum out mainly because I want to focus on vocal more here as its louder

the rest of diffs are fine, gl! cool set

-Tochi wrote:
sry im kinda late o/

well there's no AR9 in this mapset lol.

[Regou's Extra]
00:39:509 (1) - I think it would look and feel better to make the curve flow upwards instead of downwards, so the direction is on the way to the next object. sure
00:41:842 (4) - Right now the slider is too close to the triplet. Moving this to somewhere like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9307891 will feel less awkward to play. sure
00:50:342 (4) - This slider could be more improved like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9307923 because right now it seems kinda off. kinda adjusted the curve in other way as I want to blanket 00:49:842 (2) -

Cool map, good luck with it!

Faygor wrote:
nm!!
sorry for being late tho

[Regou]
00:54:675 (1): if im not mistaken i think ur trying to create a contrast between the intro and the cool slider stuff in the kiai with this slider, but i think ur missing out a lot of sounds with it, plus it feels really awkward. I think using a low sv green tick while mapping to the sounds might work better (for example, using reverse sliders to map 00:55:342 to 00:55:675 ?) alright I changed the rhythm here should be better now
01:49:175 (2,3,4,5): if ur representing the ah sound remove 1 circle maybe, while if ur representing the "plucking" or whatever sound at the background maybe add 1 circle then this one should be fine as I hear the vocal still last at 01:49:425 -
nothing much to say zz

no kds if my suggestions are not helpful, cuz this is pretty hard to mod ><
shot a star anyway, gl with ranking~~

Thanks for modding!!

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EijiKuinbii

331 posts

Joined April 2015

EijiKuinbii 2017-10-21T08:56:09+00:00

Iridescent

01:30:176 (8,9) - зачем пробел между ними
01:32:842 (5,6) - ^

Mirash's Another

где киаи
01:29:259 (4) - здесь хс не помешал бы
01:38:092 - мне кажется ты зря тут бит скипнул

PandaHero's Normal

00:33:342 (5) - может сделать тут 1\2 реверс?
01:38:675 (1,2) - мне кажется будет лучше если их не стакать
01:50:009 (2) - может сократить его до 1\2, 01:50:342 - а сюда поставить ноту?

Reiji's Insane

01:59:842 - может трипл сделать?

NeilPerry

301 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

NeilPerry 2017-10-22T04:30:14+00:00

EijiKuinbii wrote:
Iridescent
01:30:176 (8,9) - зачем пробел между ними listen sound without hitsounds so there an answer
01:32:842 (5,6) - ^ ^

thanks

PandaHero

662 posts

Joined November 2011

PandaHero 2017-10-22T09:51:06+00:00

EijiKuinbii wrote:
PandaHero's Normal
00:33:342 (5) - может сделать тут 1\2 реверс?
Ну не, я ж там этот свист фолловлю, а не драмы
01:38:675 (1,2) - мне кажется будет лучше если их не стакать
там два одинаковых звука, поэтому стак тут подходит
01:50:009 (2) - может сократить его до 1\2, 01:50:342 - а сюда поставить ноту?
оке

Спасибо

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//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Reiji-RJ

1,402 posts

Joined April 2010

Reiji-RJ 2017-10-22T15:58:45+00:00

@EijiKuinbii: Трипл там в музыке есть, но он мне не очень нравится, если честно. Да и тогда после спиннера сложно выбивать будет, поэтому оставлю, как есть. Спасибо большое :3

winber1

4,520 posts

Joined February 2010

winber1 2017-10-27T05:25:14+00:00

SPOILER

tokiko wrote:
[winber1]
[*]01:45:009 (1) - removing nc from here will help someone to read 01:45:175 (1) - that I don't think it really helps at all actually, I'd say it's much more of a reaction to be able to read and hit it right (from my experince), and also I like how it looks better this way

toybot wrote:
[winber]
00:42:509 (1,2) - i think it'd be p cool to ctrl+g this hmm, i wanted the flow to be snappier, so I think what i had before fits that purpose more, but I can see where you are coming from
cant really judge this diff, so hard to play for me

Sulfur wrote:
winber
00:22:675 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - perhaps u could try something similar to this to separate 00:22:675 (1,2,1,2) - and 00:23:342 (1,2,1,2) - if I think I understand, you pattern has more of a 'back and forth' kind of feel to it, and i wanted something more progressive to follow the buildup of the music, so i had it increase in spacing in a curve upwards

nothing changed, thanks for modding (and sry for late post)

Strategas

1,378 posts

Joined July 2013

Strategas 2017-11-03T16:06:22+00:00

[top diff]
01:03:009 (2,1) - 01:13:675 (2,1) - these are pretty extreme, should make them atleast like 00:57:675 (4,1) - or could remove 1 repeat like 01:08:342 (4,1) -
01:14:342 (1,1) - unsnapped

[winber1]
00:11:342 (2,1,2) - disagreeing with such huge jumps for such a calm place

00:24:675 (1,2) - what's up with extending sliders in this whole section, they skip over obvious beats and end on nothing, plus the extreme slider leniency makes it pretty hard not to get 100s from sliders, if you're following the lute (or whatever that is), then 00:25:509 (4) - 00:27:842 (1) - doesn't make sense rhythmically

00:37:009 (3) - shouldn't be extended since all sounds end on red tick

[regou]
00:41:509 (3) - could just make this 1/2 slider to avoid the random 1/1 gap

[mirash]
00:58:675 (1,2,3) - looks too clustered, should atleast look like 01:41:509 (1,2,3) -

[reiji]
00:54:342 (1,2) - 01:37:009 (1,2) - should have 1/4 gap between them, remove one repeat

[hard]
00:58:175 (3,4) - 01:03:509 (3,4) - etc... don't use 1/4 sliders for hard diff, especially when insane diff didn't have any

[pandahero]
01:10:009 (2,3,4,5,6) - too long 1/2 chain

[easy]
00:53:342 (3,4) - 00:59:009 (2,3) - 01:10:009 (2,3) - etc. lots of placements where it's not very beginner friendly, you'd usually want to have next objects in sliders direction, use more stuff like 01:36:009 (3,4) -

Regou

1,916 posts

Joined July 2010

Regou 2017-11-03T16:37:22+00:00

fixed

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Reiji-RJ

1,402 posts

Joined April 2010

Reiji-RJ 2017-11-03T21:05:09+00:00

Strategas wrote:
[reiji]
00:54:342 (1,2) - 01:37:009 (1,2) - should have 1/4 gap between them, remove one repeat sure

Thank you!

winber1

4,520 posts

Joined February 2010

winber1 2017-11-04T01:16:27+00:00

Strategas wrote:
[winber1]
00:11:342 (2,1,2) - disagreeing with such huge jumps for such a calm place literally, this was exactly what i was thining for like 10 minutes before i placed that note, and i ended up decided I liked the symmetry, but i guess in the end it probably still makes sense to break symmetry. placed it in the middle instead lul

00:24:675 (1,2) - what's up with extending sliders in this whole section, they skip over obvious beats and end on nothing, plus the extreme slider leniency makes it pretty hard not to get 100s from sliders, if you're following the lute (or whatever that is), then 00:25:509 (4) - 00:27:842 (1) - doesn't make sense rhythmically they follow the drums and bass (the really low bass sounds in the back). The point is the contrast the colors in the music. The way I feel it,
the bass does not particular push the momentum of the song forward, yet it still feels really powerful so I mapped it as slow sliders with jumps. This is contrasted with the actual melody, which I follow more so in the next section with much more fluid motion (except the powerful drum hits at the end of each phrase). Albeit the jumps are still relatively large, the feeling is much more smooth compared to the snappy nature of the prior section

00:37:009 (3) - shouldn't be extended since all sounds end on red tick read prefvious note and also it follows the melody as well as the snare hit that echoes in the back. I do this two times.

http://puu.sh/yeeEC/e0b25b8f08.osu

Mirash

Beatmap Nominator

705 posts

Joined June 2013

Mirash 2017-11-04T04:41:30+00:00

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fixed stack and kuinbi things

куинби там хс специально скипнут, чтобы звучало разнообразно, а биточек там не нужен, чтобы выделить сильнее эти звуки уникальные под триплами

NeilPerry

301 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

NeilPerry 2017-11-04T05:24:28+00:00

Strategas wrote:
[top diff]
01:03:009 (2,1) - 01:13:675 (2,1) - these are pretty extreme, should make them atleast like 00:57:675 (4,1) - or could remove 1 repeat like 01:08:342 (4,1) - i removed one repeat on all 1\8 reverses and structurised them for consistency
01:14:342 (1,1) - unsnapped fixed

[hard]
00:58:175 (3,4) - 01:03:509 (3,4) - etc... don't use 1/4 sliders for hard diff, especially when insane diff didn't have any ok fixed

[easy]
00:53:342 (3,4) - 00:59:009 (2,3) - 01:10:009 (2,3) - etc. lots of placements where it's not very beginner friendly, you'd usually want to have next objects in sliders direction, use more stuff like 01:36:009 (3,4) - fixed the most extreme stuff

Thanks thanks <3

PandaHero

662 posts

Joined November 2011

PandaHero 2017-11-04T07:45:19+00:00

Strategas wrote:
[pandahero]
01:10:009 (2,3,4,5,6) - too long 1/2 chain

Fixed, thanks

osu file format v14

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Strategas

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Joined July 2013

Strategas 2017-11-06T18:31:38+00:00

nominated

NeilPerry

301 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

NeilPerry 2017-11-06T18:36:03+00:00

Thaaank

OneRing

86 posts

Joined February 2015

OneRing 2017-11-06T18:55:42+00:00

Рашку с колен!

Doormat

2,049 posts

Joined September 2013

Doormat 2017-11-12T05:39:10+00:00

yo, sorry it's late

why are there so many bookmarks on the break lol it's bloating the file size

[Easy]

00:22:675 - personally feel it would be better to end the rhythm here, since this is where the shift in the music begins. you could try adding a circle here or making 00:22:342 (2) - a 1/1 slider
00:49:009 - feels odd to skip this note here; music is building up here so i think it'd be nice to include. also goes for 01:31:675 -
01:56:175 (3) - i feel this would work more effectively as a repeat 1/1 slider like your previous patterns, especially because the sound on 01:56:842 - is really emphasized. might need to move your next few notes though.

[PandaHero]

01:06:009 - honestly you could put in another 1/1 slider here; it feels really awkward to just leave the phrase ending on 01:05:842 -
01:57:009 (6,1) - this rhythm doesn't really fit the music all that well. music is placing more emphasis on the downbeat, so skipping it over like this is bleugh. perhaps you could try something like this?
SPOILER

[Hard]

00:58:175 (3) - 01:14:175 (3) - wouldn't these be more appropriate as 3 circles like you used with 01:03:509 (3,4,5,6) - ? associating the same sounds this way would make the map stand out more imoi
01:10:009 (2,3,4) - ^similarly to the above, using a Ctrl+G on the rhythm here so that the clickable points are on the "ah-ah-ah" would stand out more imo

[Reiji]

01:29:175 (5,6) - honestly i feel that a Ctrl+G here for the rhythm would be better; the synth here is in a set of four, so ending the last clickable beat here on the downbeat would help emphasize that
01:44:009 (1,2) - this is the only time you use high 1/4 spacing that it comes off as off-putting. it'd be more appropriate to use a similar spacing to something like 01:48:009 (1,2) -

[Mirash]

00:30:842 (1) - why does the slider end here have a normal whistle? sounds really out of place
00:39:509 (2) - same here, the whistle isn't necessary; the clap is all that's really needed
00:52:342 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - this stream is overmapped; there aren't even any identifiable sounds on the blue ticks. i'd be more forgiving if they were slider ends, similar to what winber did, but as it currently stands making this a stream feels overdone.
00:58:009 (5,6,7,8,9) - 01:03:342 (4,1,2) - 01:08:842 (3,4,5) - 01:10:009 (1,2,3,4) - 01:14:175 (5,6,7) - these are the same "ah-ah-ah" sounds in the music, why are they mapped so differently? some consistency would go a long way at emphasizing these sounds better
00:58:925 (2) - personally i think simplifying this into a circle would be better
01:35:342 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this is also pretty overmapped. the only distinguishable sound on the blue ticks i can hear is after 01:35:675 (5) - . if you're going to include blue tick sounds here, i don't think 01:35:425 (2,3) - should be clickable
01:41:509 (1,2,3) - 01:52:175 (1,2,3) - don't do this. at this difficulty level, the 1/8 slider makes the reading here much more difficult than it really needs to be. the slider in the middle of the triple can really confuse players, especially because it comes across as unexpected. it'd be much more appropriate to just simplify it into a circle
01:50:009 (1,2,3,4,5) - not going to use a similar rhythm to 01:38:675 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6) - ? feels really dumbed down when it's the same sounds, but ok.

[Komore]

00:30:342 (3) - might be better to remove the normal sampleset here; sounds really weird compared to 00:30:009 (1,2,4) -
01:09:009 (2) - don't really hear the sound on the yellow tick here that warrants this be a 1/8 repeat slider. i think a regular 1/4 slider would work more effectively, like you did with 00:58:342 (2) - and 01:03:675 (2) -
01:10:175 (2) - just an idea, but why not try making this a 1/4 slider too, so that it can be like all the other "ah" sounds here?
really neat diff

[Regou]

00:39:009 (3,1) - if you're going to use a speed-up here, i wouldn't really recommend doubling the SV of (3), it kind of looks confusing. maybe try 0.9x or 0.8x?
00:47:675 (4) - don't think this is the best idea for a long slider like this; music is still building up and it kind of breaks the pacing of your previous pattern. it also doesn't really have a sound that emphasizes a long sound like 00:50:342 (4) - has. maybe try two 1/4 sliders? same with 01:30:342 (1) -
basically the kiais: you can barely notice the slider end for the 1/8 repeat sliders like 00:58:842 (1) - . i can sort of get behind using the 0.1x slider SV for 1/4 sliders, but with 1/8 sliders that's pushing it too far. honestly if you're going to go for 1/8 sliders like that the map would probably be better off using 0.2x slider SV instead of 0.1x
01:26:675 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - doesn't really feel that intuitive to play. the triple at 01:27:342 (1,2,3) - really feels confusing and out of place with the rest of the rhythms used, so why not try using a 1/4 slider at 01:27:342 (1) - ? you might need to restructure your patterns though
01:59:842 (2,3,4) - mm maybe try Ctrl+G the triangle here? i feel the movement would flow more smoothly

[winber1]

00:47:175 (4,5,6,7) - i don't think this rhythm works; the music is clearly placing an emphasis more on the red/white ticks, so placing clickable objects on the blue ticks isn't very intuitive nor does it really make much rhythmic sense
00:47:675 (1) - mentioned in Regou's diff as well, but i feel that the slower slider doesn't work for this part since the buildup is still going and there isn't much to give this note that much distinction that would warrant a change like this
00:49:342 (1,2,3) - why the jitter lol
00:58:925 (2,3,4) - 01:09:592 (1,2,3) - 01:41:592 (1,2,3) - 01:52:259 (1,2,3) - 1/8 triples are way too demanding to ask of the player. 360bpm triples please no :c
01:29:842 (5,6,7,8) - read the first point
01:30:342 (1) - read the second point

[Iridescent]

might be a good idea to silence some of your slider ends at the beginning. the hit-normal really stands out on those blue ticks s:
00:52:009 (1,2,1,2) - honestly i think it might be a good idea if this wasn't parallel with the previous jump pattern 00:51:342 (1,2,1,2) - . music has a slight shift in it due to the downbeat, so it'd be neat to see the jumps reflect that as well
01:13:175 (1) - 01:49:342 (1) - based on your colourhacks shouldn't these be the darker gray?
01:34:675 (1,2,1,2) - same as the second point
01:57:342 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - the 1/8s feel kind of overdone here. music is nowhere near that dense, so i don't see how the 1/8s are justifiable here

not sure how i feel pushing this forward. i'll take a look at the responses and decide then-

winber1

4,520 posts

Joined February 2010

winber1 2017-11-12T06:04:53+00:00

Doormat wrote:
[winber1]
00:47:175 (4,5,6,7) - i don't think this rhythm works; the music is clearly placing an emphasis more on the red/white ticks, so placing clickable objects on the blue ticks isn't very intuitive nor does it really make much rhythmic sense following drums, i just didn't like leaving them out
00:47:675 (1) - mentioned in Regou's diff as well, but i feel that the slower slider doesn't work for this part since the buildup is still going and there isn't much to give this note that much distinction that would warrant a change like this doesn't make sense as a 3/4 length slider with the same SV, it also matches with the "honk" like synth sound in the back
00:49:342 (1,2,3) - why the jitter lol idk, i just didn't like how it looked as a stack, but you're probably right that makes more sense as a stack,
i also felt that it fit with the design of the map and i wanted to somehow emphasize that background melody without anything major
00:58:925 (2,3,4) - 01:09:592 (1,2,3) - 01:41:592 (1,2,3) - 01:52:259 (1,2,3) - 1/8 triples are way too demanding to ask of the player. 360bpm triples please no :c disagree tbh, map is an extra diff anyways and i don't put 1/8 triplets within a stream. Doing that would be a little to demanding, but for most people doing a really quick burst is not too hard to manage within sliders (since sliders also make accuracy more lenient to begin with)
01:29:842 (5,6,7,8) - read the first point
01:30:342 (1) - read the second point

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Regou

1,916 posts

Joined July 2010

Regou 2017-11-12T06:11:38+00:00

Doormat wrote:
yo, sorry it's late

why are there so many bookmarks on the break lol it's bloating the file size

[Regou]
00:39:009 (3,1) - if you're going to use a speed-up here, i wouldn't really recommend doubling the SV of (3), it kind of looks confusing. maybe try 0.9x or 0.8x? changed it to 0.9x
00:47:675 (4) - don't think this is the best idea for a long slider like this; music is still building up and it kind of breaks the pacing of your previous pattern. it also doesn't really have a sound that emphasizes a long sound like 00:50:342 (4) - has. maybe try two 1/4 sliders? same with 01:30:342 (1) - alright
basically the kiais: you can barely notice the slider end for the 1/8 repeat sliders like 00:58:842 (1) - . i can sort of get behind using the 0.1x slider SV for 1/4 sliders, but with 1/8 sliders that's pushing it too far. honestly if you're going to go for 1/8 sliders like that the map would probably be better off using 0.2x slider SV instead of 0.1x I originally want to slider end nearly unnoticeable so as to do a hold note here but it seems that it's really risky to push something like this forward. Changed the SV to 0.2x.
01:26:675 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - doesn't really feel that intuitive to play. the triple at 01:27:342 (1,2,3) - really feels confusing and out of place with the rest of the rhythms used, so why not try using a 1/4 slider at 01:27:342 (1) - ? you might need to restructure your patterns though the beat on 01:27:425 (2) - is relatively strong in the music i'd prefer having it clickable here
01:59:842 (2,3,4) - mm maybe try Ctrl+G the triangle here? i feel the movement would flow more smoothly this is mostly related to my own gameplay style as a mouse only player it's pretty hard to do a smooth and quick circular flow movement having more angular movement makes the pattern easier to play for me
not sure how i feel pushing this forward. i'll take a look at the responses and decide then-

Thanks for modding!!

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NeilPerry

301 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

NeilPerry 2017-11-12T06:21:51+00:00

Doormat wrote:
yo, sorry it's late

why are there so many bookmarks on the break lol it's bloating the file size

[Easy]
00:22:675 - personally feel it would be better to end the rhythm here, since this is where the shift in the music begins. you could try adding a circle here or making 00:22:342 (2) - a 1/1 slider
00:49:009 - feels odd to skip this note here; music is building up here so i think it'd be nice to include. also goes for 01:31:675 -
01:56:175 (3) - i feel this would work more effectively as a repeat 1/1 slider like your previous patterns, especially because the sound on 01:56:842 - is really emphasized. might need to move your next few notes though.

[Hard]
00:58:175 (3) - 01:14:175 (3) - wouldn't these be more appropriate as 3 circles like you used with 01:03:509 (3,4,5,6) - ? associating the same sounds this way would make the map stand out more imoi
01:10:009 (2,3,4) - ^similarly to the above, using a Ctrl+G on the rhythm here so that the clickable points are on the "ah-ah-ah" would stand out more imo

[Iridescent]
might be a good idea to silence some of your slider ends at the beginning. the hit-normal really stands out on those blue ticks s: ya sure
00:52:009 (1,2,1,2) - honestly i think it might be a good idea if this wasn't parallel with the previous jump pattern 00:51:342 (1,2,1,2) - . music has a slight shift in it due to the downbeat, so it'd be neat to see the jumps reflect that as well tbh i tryed to emphzed with slow spacing rising on that slight shift. and swap angle 00:52:675 (1,2,1,2) - here cuz sound of beat got changed a bit. so guess it reasonable.
01:13:175 (1) - 01:49:342 (1) - based on your colourhacks shouldn't these be the darker gray? ya[/colour]
01:34:675 (1,2,1,2) - same as the second point
01:57:342 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - the 1/8s feel kind of overdone here. music is nowhere near that dense, so i don't see how the 1/8s are justifiable [color=#BF0000]here
music extends perfectly to 1\8 tails. if listen it on x0.25 speed its sounds perfectly with ending on this ticks 01:57:384 - 01:57:467 - etc.

For easy and hard stuff applied all. Thanks!
Also bookmarks removed in diffs with spamming on break. And im restructure NC in hard diff in first kiai cuz of rythm changes.
Uhh forum ruins colours. x__x

Last edited by NeilPerry 2017-11-12T12:15:27+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

PandaHero

662 posts

Joined November 2011

PandaHero 2017-11-12T08:34:29+00:00

Doormat wrote:
yo, sorry it's late

why are there so many bookmarks on the break lol it's bloating the file size

[PandaHero]
01:06:009 - honestly you could put in another 1/1 slider here; it feels really awkward to just leave the phrase ending on 01:05:842 -
Uhh, maybe it's really awkward for normal diffs, I never think about it. Slider added.
01:57:009 (6,1) - this rhythm doesn't really fit the music all that well. music is placing more emphasis on the downbeat, so skipping it over like this is bleugh. perhaps you could try something like this?
SPOILER
Yeah, it sounds better now

not sure how i feel pushing this forward. i'll take a look at the responses and decide then-

thank you

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Mirash

Beatmap Nominator

705 posts

Joined June 2013

Mirash 2017-11-12T09:03:42+00:00

Doormat wrote:
00:30:842 (1) - why does the slider end here have a normal whistle? sounds really out of place this thing givin nice effect of something new in music just before changes in it
00:39:509 (2) - same here, the whistle isn't necessary; the clap is all that's really needed same reason
00:52:342 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - this stream is overmapped; there aren't even any identifiable sounds on the blue ticks. i'd be more forgiving if they were slider ends, similar to what winber did, but as it currently stands making this a stream feels overdone. it is here to represent sound that goes higher with every 1/2, though i don't mind changing it into kick sliders, k
00:58:009 (5,6,7,8,9) - 01:03:342 (4,1,2) - 01:08:842 (3,4,5) - 01:10:009 (1,2,3,4) - 01:14:175 (5,6,7) - these are the same "ah-ah-ah" sounds in the music, why are they mapped so differently? some consistency would go a long way at emphasizing these sounds better indeed, they sound same, but their appearance in music isn't. 00:58:259 (6,7,8,9) - just after this thing goes somewhat weaker section (that i also highlighted with slider), so making here a stream will give weaker section more effect. 01:03:675 (1,2) - just notes works well with strong 01:04:009 (3) - crash on the slider imo, and kick sliders are for non significant ah-ah-ah, they play a bit differently than circles and are stacked so players wont notice them i think and thats what i want. 01:10:009 (1,2,3,4) - and yeah this is the most strong ah-ah-ah as i can see, so thats the circles here, which meant to be snapped by a player uh
00:58:925 (2) - personally i think simplifying this into a circle would be better hm, it was a circle before, but the thing is slider tail covers that important sound of "drop" or something and it sounds more accurate to the music
01:35:342 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this is also pretty overmapped. the only distinguishable sound on the blue ticks i can hear is after 01:35:675 (5) - . if you're going to include blue tick sounds here, i don't think 01:35:425 (2,3) - should be clickable reworked, though i don't think overmap as something xD if it is pretty unnoticeable
01:41:509 (1,2,3) - 01:52:175 (1,2,3) - don't do this. at this difficulty level, the 1/8 slider makes the reading here much more difficult than it really needs to be. the slider in the middle of the triple can really confuse players, especially because it comes across as unexpected. it'd be much more appropriate to just simplify it into a circle uhh, here you may be right, changed
01:50:009 (1,2,3,4,5) - not going to use a similar rhythm to 01:38:675 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6) - ? feels really dumbed down when it's the same sounds, but ok. kinda wanted to show overlapped sliders just at the start of the section, mm, also music isn't entirely same after this thing so..

schoolboy

571 posts

Joined July 2016

schoolboy 2017-11-12T11:42:32+00:00

fixed allll thanks

osu file format v14

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Reiji-RJ

1,402 posts

Joined April 2010

Reiji-RJ 2017-11-12T12:07:24+00:00

Doormat wrote:
[Reiji]
01:29:175 (5,6) - honestly i feel that a Ctrl+G here for the rhythm would be better; the synth here is in a set of four, so ending the last clickable beat here on the downbeat would help emphasize that not fixed, cause it was made on purpose (see 01:30:842 (1,2,3,4) - this patten). I like sliders starting from red tick!
01:44:009 (1,2) - this is the only time you use high 1/4 spacing that it comes off as off-putting. it'd be more appropriate to use a similar spacing to something like 01:48:009 (1,2) - put them closer

Thank you very much!!

Doormat

2,049 posts

Joined September 2013

Doormat 2017-11-16T06:30:45+00:00

winber1 wrote:
00:58:925 (2,3,4) - 01:09:592 (1,2,3) - 01:41:592 (1,2,3) - 01:52:259 (1,2,3) - 1/8 triples are way too demanding to ask of the player. 360bpm triples please no :c disagree tbh, map is an extra diff anyways and i don't put 1/8 triplets within a stream. Doing that would be a little to demanding, but for most people doing a really quick burst is not too hard to manage within sliders (since sliders also make accuracy more lenient to begin with) that's fair, but there needs to be a better way to telegraph that these are 1/8 if that's the case then. as it currently is right now i can see these being confused as 1/4 triples. personally i think a 1/8 slider would be more effective at telegraphing (and make it less demanding for players while keeping the core idea the same) so you could try that as an alternative as well

Reiji-RJ wrote:
[Reiji]
01:44:009 (1,2) - this is the only time you use high 1/4 spacing that it comes off as off-putting. it'd be more appropriate to use a similar spacing to something like 01:48:009 (1,2) - put them closer still a little bit far apart, but does look better. maybe try rotating (1) by 30 degrees anti-clockwise from selection centre?

everything else i can more or less accept. reply back when you're able to and i'll qualify, i guess

winber1

4,520 posts

Joined February 2010

winber1 2017-11-16T07:07:32+00:00

Talked with doormat a littel bit, but basically the argument is that kiai time has no stacked 1/4 ticks and I also believe that the approach circles are very visibly closer together for more experienced players, for which this map is intended for anyways. So I think it is okay to keep it as is.

Doormat

2,049 posts

Joined September 2013

Doormat 2017-11-16T07:18:13+00:00

all issues/complaints i had have been addressed, so let's give this a shot at qualified-

NeilPerry

301 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

NeilPerry 2017-11-16T07:18:47+00:00

thanks <3

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