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Yoko Takahashi - Zankoku na Tenshi no These <TV.Size Version

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Ambrew
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Joined January 2016
Ambrew
Ambient's insane
01:07:105 (1,2,3) - Only real problem I have with this, both can misread it and underemphasizes the slider. Could you maybe unstack the 2?
01:10:137 (6,7) - Not sure why an emphasis on a sliderend, instead of having something clickable here
01:19:232 (1,2,3,4) - weird rhythm. I'd keep this type of rhythm 01:18:299 (1,2,3,4) -

Same applies to other half of kiai section

Extra
00:21:396 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This is okay but I'd use slightly bigger spaced streams, still a louder part of the song, and feels too cluttered imo
01:04:190 (4,5,6,7) - Felt more natural here 01:00:575 (5,6,7,8) - but you'd only have to delete the circle after this

That's all! good luck~
Ambient
579 posts
Joined August 2013
Ambient

Ambrew wrote:

Ambient's insane
01:07:105 (1,2,3) - Only real problem I have with this, both can misread it and underemphasizes the slider. Could you maybe unstack the 2? - dunno how it under-emphasizes the slider, m8 listen to that trumpet go, also in terms of readability its fine. tv size op just retr
01:10:137 (6,7) - Not sure why an emphasis on a sliderend, instead of having something clickable here - fair enough, fixed.
01:19:232 (1,2,3,4) - weird rhythm. I'd keep this type of rhythm 01:18:299 (1,2,3,4) - - i think its fine

Same applies to other half of kiai section
thanks for the mod! :)

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osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 66989
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.3
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LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1.4
BeatDivisor: 8
GridSize: 8
TimelineZoom: 2.2

[Metadata]
Title:Zankoku na Tenshi no Tze
TitleUnicode:残酷な天使のテーゼ
Artist:Yoko Takahashi
ArtistUnicode:高橋 洋子
Creator:moph
Version:Ambient's Insane
Source:新世紀エヴァンゲリオン
Tags:Neon Genesis Evangelion opening Cruel Angel's Thesis ambient rizen aqpw a_q_p_w
BeatmapID:1423969
BeatmapSetID:672960

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:7
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:2.9
SliderTickRate:1

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moph
1,147 posts
Joined January 2013
Topic Starter
moph

Ambrew wrote:

Extra
00:21:396 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This is okay but I'd use slightly bigger spaced streams, still a louder part of the song, and feels too cluttered imo keeping it to match the sliders, imo it looks fine ;;
01:04:190 (4,5,6,7) - Felt more natural here 01:00:575 (5,6,7,8) - but you'd only have to delete the circle after this not sure I get what you mean here sorry, I think its ok

That's all! good luck~
thanks Ambrew! :)
kwk
572 posts
Joined May 2010
kwk
~
general
00:22:329 - dont you think the hitsounding in this section seems a bit too empty? maybe could just add a hitsound to the guitar on beats like 00:24:195 - 00:26:061 (1) - etc

top
00:15:216 (2,3) - 00:16:616 (4,1) - etc might be worth nerfing these jumps a bit,when you compare it to the kiai its quite big, or alternatively blow up your kiai a bit more
00:20:464 (1,2,1,2) - imo better to have more movement here, not a lot of cursor movement when you just click heads
00:36:322 (1,1) - misstack?
00:38:887 - 00:40:753 - maybe make these clickable? i think triple rhythm is better since vocals start here, you do it later on in the section but i think its worth doing it here too.
00:57:777 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - gradual increase in spacing could be cool
01:13:635 (1,2) - increase spacing here?

ambi
00:14:867 - volume conflict
00:19:414 (4,5) - much rather u unstack these since it kinda loses it emphasis,do what u did here 00:18:948 (2,3) -
00:50:664 (2,4,6) - kinda similar to the above, this bit seems a bit underwhelming, a large spike in difficulty somewhat would be nice
00:58:127 (2,4,6,8) - maybe stack on the end of the previous slider? i think that could be kinda cool, right now its just kinda filler-esque

rizen
00:14:867 - sampleset conflict

no vid?

~
moph
1,147 posts
Joined January 2013
Topic Starter
moph

kwk wrote:

~
general
00:22:329 - dont you think the hitsounding in this section seems a bit too empty? maybe could just add a hitsound to the guitar on beats like 00:24:195 - 00:26:061 (1) - etc done

top
00:15:216 (2,3) - 00:16:616 (4,1) - etc might be worth nerfing these jumps a bit,when you compare it to the kiai its quite big, or alternatively blow up your kiai a bit more done
00:20:464 (1,2,1,2) - imo better to have more movement here, not a lot of cursor movement when you just click heads changed it a bit
00:36:322 (1,1) - misstack? redid this part
00:38:887 - 00:40:753 - maybe make these clickable? i think triple rhythm is better since vocals start here, you do it later on in the section but i think its worth doing it here too. ya sure
00:57:777 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - gradual increase in spacing could be cool ehh kinda redid this
01:13:635 (1,2) - increase spacing here? sure

rizen
00:14:867 - sampleset conflict fixed

no vid?

~
ty!!
Ambient
579 posts
Joined August 2013
Ambient

kwk wrote:

~

ambi
00:14:867 - volume conflict
00:19:414 (4,5) - much rather u unstack these since it kinda loses it emphasis,do what u did here 00:18:948 (2,3) -
00:50:664 (2,4,6) - kinda similar to the above, this bit seems a bit underwhelming, a large spike in difficulty somewhat would be nice
00:58:127 (2,4,6,8) - maybe stack on the end of the previous slider? i think that could be kinda cool, right now its just kinda filler-esque

~
fixed all, cheers kwk <3
Weedy
773 posts
Joined January 2014
Weedy
holy shit its been 4 months since i've used mod v1

Normal

  1. 00:16:732 (3,4,5) - repos (5) for equilateral triangle aesthetic https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10808853
  2. 00:21:396 (5) - imo 3/4 works fine in normal, better for trumpet representation
  3. 01:21:098 (6) - ^ but for vocals


advanced

  1. 00:34:456 (2) - fix angle slider, uneven
  2. 01:21:098 (7) - i'd extend to a 3/4 slider for vocal


rizen's hard

  1. 00:15:799 (4,5) - 00:19:531 (3,4,5) - personally hate border overlaps on sliders ;/
  2. 00:21:863 (6) - no drum on last reverse, remove
  3. 00:36:322 (3,4) - imo a 1/1 slider would be better rhythmically and visually for vocal emphasis
  4. 01:05:240 (1) - a little too short for a spinner in a hard imo, i'd probably do a 7/4 slider with a 3/4 repeat slider https://puu.sh/Ab0wm/bbab5d8cfa.png
  5. 01:14:102 (6) - no drum on last repeat, delete


ambient's insane

  1. 01:28:910 (2) - imo a space-ier circle would work better than a silenced 1/2 for emphasis


extra

  1. 00:36:322 (1) - imo a higher sv slider with the same shape would look cooler, also better represents vocal pitch https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10809016
  2. 00:39:587 (3) - lazy lol
  3. 01:29:260 - silence end pls (currently at 40%)


extreme

  1. 00:50:314 (1) - ctrl g? flows better
  2. 01:14:102 (1,2,1,2,1) - 250% of your sr is right here
  3. 01:29:260 - silence end pls (currently at 40%)
moph
1,147 posts
Joined January 2013
Topic Starter
moph

[[Pika]] wrote:

holy shit its been 4 months since i've used mod v1

Normal

  1. 00:16:732 (3,4,5) - repos (5) for equilateral triangle aesthetic https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10808853 done
  2. 00:21:396 (5) - imo 3/4 works fine in normal, better for trumpet representation rather not have stuff end on a 3/4. It does fit musically but I think its fine on a 1/2 as theres also the percussion and shit
  3. 01:21:098 (6) - ^ but for vocals same


advanced

  1. 00:34:456 (2) - fix angle slider, uneven done
  2. 01:21:098 (7) - i'd extend to a 3/4 slider for vocal sure


extra

  1. 00:36:322 (1) - imo a higher sv slider with the same shape would look cooler, also better represents vocal pitch https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10809016 oo good idea
  2. 00:39:587 (3) - lazy lol sshhh im folLoWinG tHe VOcalS
  3. 01:29:260 - silence end pls (currently at 40%) ok


extreme

  1. 00:50:314 (1) - ctrl g? flows better true
  2. 01:14:102 (1,2,1,2,1) - 250% of your sr is right here itsnotashardasitlooks
  3. 01:29:260 - silence end pls (currently at 40%) done
thanks Pika!
Ambient
579 posts
Joined August 2013
Ambient

[[Pika]] wrote:

ambient's insane

  1. 01:28:910 (2) - imo a space-ier circle would work better than a silenced 1/2 for emphasis - i think its fine imo, since the slider is following the vocals. just having a circle would be underwhelming.
Rizen
1,662 posts
Joined August 2013
Rizen

[[Pika]] wrote:

rizen's hard

  1. 00:15:799 (4,5) - 00:19:531 (3,4,5) - personally hate border overlaps on sliders ;/ >>> :(
  2. 00:21:863 (6) - no drum on last reverse, remove >>> there is drums in music
  3. 00:36:322 (3,4) - imo a 1/1 slider would be better rhythmically and visually for vocal emphasis [color=#FF0000>>> snare at 00:36:788 (4) - ][/color]
  4. 01:05:240 (1) - a little too short for a spinner in a hard imo, i'd probably do a 7/4 slider with a 3/4 repeat slider https://puu.sh/Ab0wm/bbab5d8cfa.png >>> spinner is long enough for hard diff
  5. 01:14:102 (6) - no drum on last repeat, delete >>> there is drums in music
thanks
kwk
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kwk
~

00:56:961 (6,7) - 01:04:423 (6,7) - could space these out more imo, kinda impactless atm
01:06:172 (1,3,1) - i think finding a different sample/upping the soft-finishes volume would be good. atm its like ur finishes have less feedback than your claps lol
01:19:232 (5,6) - would reduce spacing here so emphasis stays on 01:19:232 (5) - or ctrl-g rhythm
01:26:695 (5,6) - ^ 01:08:038 (2,3) - ^

~
moph
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moph

kwk wrote:

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00:56:961 (6,7) - 01:04:423 (6,7) - could space these out more imo, kinda impactless atm done
01:06:172 (1,3,1) - i think finding a different sample/upping the soft-finishes volume would be good. atm its like ur finishes have less feedback than your claps lol done
01:19:232 (5,6) - would reduce spacing here so emphasis stays on 01:19:232 (5) - or ctrl-g rhythm kinda like the emphasis on the slider as well, matches the change in vocals + its circle -> slider so easier to hit. Will however even out the spacing so its at least equal.
01:26:695 (5,6) - ^ 01:08:038 (2,3) - ^

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Asaiga
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Asaiga
top diff kwk asked

00:50:314 (1,1) - these could have more related in shape. also balancing the visual distance between slider head and tail
01:10:603 (9,10) - I think this could use ctrl+g for better flow

very clean map i'm envious of your style :<
moph
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moph

Asaiga wrote:

top diff kwk asked

00:50:314 (1,1) - these could have more related in shape. also balancing the visual distance between slider head and tail going to keep the shapes but yeah balanced out the visual distance
01:10:603 (9,10) - I think this could use ctrl+g for better flow sure

very clean map i'm envious of your style :<
thank you Asaiga!! :)
TheKingHenry
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TheKingHenry
Heyo quick check from my queue~
General
  1. Add files for soft-hitnormals? Same with some drum hitsound stuff since this set seems to be using those too.
Rizen's Hard
  1. 01:07:105 (1,2) - fix stack
  2. 01:08:388 (5,6,3) - looks unnecessarily messy
  3. 01:14:568 (1,2) - why the difference to 01:07:105 (1,2) - (same with 01:22:031 (1,2) - ; the first patterning idea for this was cool and was in some form used on the others too so why discard it)
Ambient's Insane
  1. 00:09:997 (1,2,3,4,1) - shape and spacings seem fucked up?
  2. 00:57:777 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - feels bad to play, would be better if you'd give little spacing to the slider->circle ones too so it's not forcing movement stop everytime before the larger transition (which feels cranky as is)
Extra
  1. 00:21:745 (4,1) - quite huge jump, which feels even more questionable when compared to how the top diff emphasises this (like, surely it has intense pattern of its own, but this huge emphasis on the middle beat doesn't really exist so why here?
  2. 00:22:212 (4,1) - make spacing equal with the rest of the stream (you can see by moving the following SV changing green that it's not quite the same if visuals don't seem clear enough)
  3. 00:36:089 (2,3) - looks cool, but should have more distance to the previous than following, otherwise it's pretty damn hard to see whether it's 1/4 from the object before or to the following object (like basically how 00:36:905 (2) - is the other way then lol)
  4. 00:46:933 (2,4) - fix stack
  5. 01:05:240 (1,2,3) - smoothen these distances out? Not like 01:05:706 (3) - is that strong for this kind of pattern unlike 01:06:172 (1) - which then is pretty strong sound and place
Extreme
  1. 00:33:523 (2) - this should probably be NCd instead of current (as you seem to have done with the prebeated vocal stuff so that circled are NCd but slider'd are NCd on the downbeat)
Mostly really cool looking set! well not that there was much to say anywhere
You have proper metadata source anywhere? Already with quick look I think テーゼ reads "teeze" instead of "teize" and it seems like borrowed word anyways which should be typed out like in the original language? Dunno if "thesis" as in english or maybe "these" as in thesis in german (like the typing out would about read) uh oh so maybe check out with someone capable ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Call me back when done with stuff
moph
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moph

TheKingHenry wrote:

Heyo quick check from my queue~
General
  1. Add files for soft-hitnormals? Same with some drum hitsound stuff since this set seems to be using those too. added some drum hitsounds but I prefer to not have a hitnormal
Extra
  1. 00:21:745 (4,1) - quite huge jump, which feels even more questionable when compared to how the top diff emphasises this (like, surely it has intense pattern of its own, but this huge emphasis on the middle beat doesn't really exist so why here? no clue, changed pattern so its way less spacing
  2. 00:22:212 (4,1) - make spacing equal with the rest of the stream (you can see by moving the following SV changing green that it's not quite the same if visuals don't seem clear enough) yep changed with previous pattern
  3. 00:36:089 (2,3) - looks cool, but should have more distance to the previous than following, otherwise it's pretty damn hard to see whether it's 1/4 from the object before or to the following object (like basically how 00:36:905 (2) - is the other way then lol) oops, made both rhythm the same
  4. 00:46:933 (2,4) - fix stack done
  5. 01:05:240 (1,2,3) - smoothen these distances out? Not like 01:05:706 (3) - is that strong for this kind of pattern unlike 01:06:172 (1) - which then is pretty strong sound and place true, stacked onto the slider after instead
Extreme
  1. 00:33:523 (2) - this should probably be NCd instead of current (as you seem to have done with the prebeated vocal stuff so that circled are NCd but slider'd are NCd on the downbeat) yep done
Mostly really cool looking set! well not that there was much to say anywhere
You have proper metadata source anywhere? Already with quick look I think テーゼ reads "teeze" instead of "teize" and it seems like borrowed word anyways which should be typed out like in the original language? Dunno if "thesis" as in english or maybe "these" as in thesis in german (like the typing out would about read) uh oh so maybe check out with someone capable ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Call me back when done with stuff
Thank you!!
I got the metadata from here https://www.discogs.com/Shiroh-Sagisu-Neon-Genesis-Evangelion-II/release/2481839
will get the romanisation checked out
Ambient
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Ambient

TheKingHenry wrote:

Ambient's Insane
  1. 00:09:997 (1,2,3,4,1) - shape and spacings seem fucked up? - oh ahahha woops, fixed.
  2. 00:57:777 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - feels bad to play, would be better if you'd give little spacing to the slider->circle ones too so it's not forcing movement stop everytime before the larger transition (which feels cranky as is) - fair enough, should be better now.
thanks for the mod! :D
moph
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moph
fixing for riz

TheKingHenry wrote:

Rizen's Hard
  1. 01:07:105 (1,2) - fix stack done
  2. 01:08:388 (5,6,3) - looks unnecessarily messy made stack better
  3. 01:14:568 (1,2) - why the difference to 01:07:105 (1,2) - (same with 01:22:031 (1,2) - ; the first patterning idea for this was cool and was in some form used on the others too so why discard it) changed the first one mentioned but keeping the second one as is, it still resembles the blanket and rotation theme imo
kwk
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kwk
http://puu.sh/AgvHW/7e83627840.png meta
am i doing this right
Foxy Grandpa
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Foxy Grandpa
mega nut
Lanturn
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Lanturn
Almost. Yoko Takahashi prefers Given Family it seems. You may also use any of the romanized titles below as long as it matches the unicode one. Also, Teeze is borrowed from the German These so we use this instead of Thesis.


- Unicode Title: 残酷な天使のテーゼ<TV.Size Version>
- or: 残酷な天使のテーゼ（TV.Size Version）
- or: 残酷な天使のテーゼ
- Romanised Title: Zankoku na Tenshi no These <TV.Size Version>
- or: Zankoku na Tenshi no These (TV.Size Version)
- or: Zankoku na Tenshi no These
- or: A Cruel Angel's Thesis <TV.Size Version>
- or: A Cruel Angel's Thesis (TV.Size Version)
- or: A Cruel Angel's Thesis
- Unicode Artist: 高橋洋子
- Romanised Artist: Yoko Takahashi
- Source: 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン

- References:
+ http://www.starchild.co.jp/special/evan ... nline.html (Website TV Ver)
+ https://lanturn.s-ul.eu/d0gJ1P2K (Album TV Ver)
+ https://lanturn.s-ul.eu/rJt07R0K (Official English title)
+ http://nbcuni-music.com/takahashi/
Joe Castle
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Joe Castle
Yeet.
TheKingHenry
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TheKingHenry
Get in the robot Shinji
moph
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moph
thanks guys!
Monstrata
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
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Monstrata
Nice to see another alternator style mapset for this song!
Kuron-kun
Kuron-kun
Hi there, moph~

I have some concerns about the AR usage in lower diffs, mainly Hard and Insane. Your mapset isn't using a low AR concept or anything like that and even highest diff is using something above 9 to make it more readable for players, and because of that, I can't see much reasoning in using AR8 for Insane and AR7 for Hard, considering this is using a lot of 1/4 rhythms and visually looks really clustered at some points.

Some examples in Hard:
01:07:922 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4), 01:15:034 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) and 00:15:333 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - lots of overlaps and snap changes (3/4 → 1/2 → 1/4 doubles), which is really complicated to new players, specially with the low AR.

Insane can easily be changed to AR8.5~8.8 and Hard to AR8.
Ambient
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Ambient
Lmao
moph
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moph
I personally don't feel that an increase in ar is necessary.
In hard the spacing does a good enough job in indicating the rhythm. Additionally I really don't think its that dense, the stacks and 1/4 rhythms are all consistent and is rather predictable as they repeat a lot.
Insane I'm more indifferent about ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

leaving it to the QAT
Kuron-kun
Kuron-kun
Not a big issue, just something to comment about and wondering if you wanted to fix it...
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