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NateWantsToBattle - Hero Of Our Time [Taiko]

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Arach
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on domenica 18 agosto 2019 at 21:16:05

Artist: NateWantsToBattle
Title: Hero Of Our Time
Source: ゼルダの伝説 時のオカリナ
Tags: Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time Link Hyrule Field Songs Nathan Sharp Alternative Rock 2016 Nintendo N64 Kith190 Vized
BPM: 135
Filesize: 8170kb
Play Time: 02:16
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (2,07 stars, 270 notes)
  2. Kantan (1,22 stars, 141 notes)
  3. Kith's Ura Oni (4,51 stars, 763 notes)
  4. Muzukashii (2,72 stars, 514 notes)
  5. Oni (3,96 stars, 665 notes)
Download: NateWantsToBattle - Hero Of Our Time
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Kantan: 100% completed by me
Futsuu: 100% completed by me
Muzukashii: 100% completed by me
Oni: 100% completed by me
Ura Oni {Guest map}: 100% completed by Kith190

Thanks to Kith190 for his tips ♥

I'm very thankful to:
-Kith190
for the stars
And to:
-Kith190
-Protonori
-Vulkin (meta mod)
-Poii
-iloveyou4ever
--_-Nico-_-
-Thousand
for the mods
Kith190
Laggavo e l'ha mandato 2 volte, non lo posso eliminare, che posso farci? :3
Kith190
Vediamo di fare una bella mod! Ti sto dando qualhe consiglio tanto chi cazzo capisce l'italiano? :)
[General]
Controllo che i timing points siano corretti e che l'offsett sia giusto. In questo caso si.
Controllo HP AR e OD, ma ci abbiamo già pensato ieri.
Conrollo Source: Songs of Time Legend of Zelda
Controllo Tags:Songs of Time Legend of Zelda Kith190
(nome album, canzone, mapper che hanno fato gd, se vuoi anche cosa c'è nello sfondo)
Song setup > Design > Enable countdown deve essere Deselezionato
Controllo il bg se è piazzato bene es. "vai sul notepadd 0,0,"Kantan-bg.png",0,0 cambi con 0,0,"Kantan-bg.png",0,100 per abbassare l'immagine" è solo un esempio
Controllo lo star spread, già lo sai
[Kantan]
Nelle kantan non possono esserci mai note a distanza di 1/4 , prima e dopo le big notes non deve esserci nulla e non bisogna esagerare con le big note. Se delle note ti suonano male perchè magari credi che debbano avere un suono diverso puoi dire tipo:
Nella futsuu 00:12:484 questa nota secondo me dovrebbe essere un K perchè è più evidente di questa 00:11:595 ed ha un tono (pitch/tone) più alto
detto questo
Potresti mettere queste note 00:08:039 (5,9) k per rompere la monotonia
In questo punto 00:17:373 c'è un suono evidente che non è stato mappato, così vale per le doppiette dopo ma non so se va bene perchè potrebbe alzare troppo lo star rating, quindi non saprei.
L'altro puno importante da conrollare è la consistency. Tipo da qui 00:30:261 a 00:49:817 non mi sembra ci sia una struttura ben definita, ma io non sono molto bravo a moddare difficoltà basse quindi preferirei lasciare ad altri per la kantan.
[Futsuu]
00:02:262 (2,4,6) queste 3 note non stanno bene perchè non rispettano il suono, non potendole spostare consiglierei di toglierle
00:21:817 (35,36,37,38) - questa struttura non mi sembra srispettare molto la base quindi consiglierei di mettere qualcosa come questa 00:22:039 qui 00:22:261 e questa 00:22:484 qui 00:22:928 .
00:28:484 - qui lo stesso
In generale le parti uguali sono mappate allo stesso modo anche se in alcuni puni mi sembra ci siano 2 stili completamente diversi.
[Muzukashii]
00:33:372 (112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123) - questa parte segue solo vocal mentre tutto il resto segue il ritmo, mi sembra leggermente fuori poso, quindi proporrei al posto di questo:

mettere questo, o simili:

00:40:483 - qui lo stesso
per il resto la map va bene
[Oni]
La Oni va già bene, potrei dirti cose tipo mettere qui 00:08:714 una k ma sarebbe tanto per dire qualcosa.
[Kith's Ura]
Bravo Kith sei il mio preferito! ♥

Ultime 2 cose importanti:
- Quando in una mod ti dicono di sistemare una nota, controlla sempre se ci sono altre parti simili nella map.
- Non devi per forza accettare tutto quello che ti viene detto, molti mapper soprattutto quelli inesperti, quando moddano ti dicono solo di cambiare delle note con quello che metterebbero loro se la mappassero e questo non è moddare. Nessuno i vieta di dargli il kudosu e non specificare cosa hai tenuto per buono della sua mod

Yeah cool map gg Good luck for ranking! XD hahaha lol O.<
Topic Starter
Arach
Response to Kith's Mod

Kith190 wrote:

[General]
Conrollo Source: Songs of Time Legend of Zelda
Controllo Tags:Songs of Time Legend of Zelda Kith190
(nome album, canzone, mapper che hanno fato gd, se vuoi anche cosa c'è nello sfondo)
Accepted Ho inserito source e tags

Kith190 wrote:

Song setup > Design > Enable countdown deve essere Deselezionato
Era già deselezionato... Mmmh, vabbé nel dubbio ho controllato tutto comunque

Kith190 wrote:

Controllo il bg se è piazzato bene es. "vai sul notepadd 0,0,"Kantan-bg.png",0,0 cambi con 0,0,"Kantan-bg.png",0,100 per abbassare l'immagine" è solo un esempio
Accepted Ho sistemato il bg della GD

Kith190 wrote:

[Kantan]
Nelle kantan non possono esserci mai note a distanza di 1/4 , prima e dopo le big notes non deve esserci nulla e non bisogna esagerare con le big note. Se delle note ti suonano male perchè magari credi che debbano avere un suono diverso puoi dire tipo:
Nella futsuu 00:12:484 questa nota secondo me dovrebbe essere un K perchè è più evidente di questa 00:11:595 ed ha un tono (pitch/tone) più alto
detto questo
Potresti mettere queste note 00:08:039 (5,9) k per rompere la monotonia
Accepted Hai ragione è più carino, poi ho tolto alcune note dopo le big notes

Kith190 wrote:

In questo punto 00:17:373 c'è un suono evidente che non è stato mappato, così vale per le doppiette dopo ma non so se va bene perchè potrebbe alzare troppo lo star rating, quindi non saprei.
Ho provato un'altra soluzione spostando tutti i k da dopo il d a prima del d. Il problema del suono non mappato rimane, ma forse ha più ritmicità adesso (oltre allo star rate più basso)

Kith190 wrote:

L'altro puno importante da conrollare è la consistency. Tipo da qui 00:30:261 a 00:49:817 non mi sembra ci sia una struttura ben definita, ma io non sono molto bravo a moddare difficoltà basse quindi preferirei lasciare ad altri per la kantan.
Accepted Ho modificato il pattern ed eliminato alcune note, dovrebbe essere meglio ora

Kith190 wrote:

[Futsuu]
00:02:262 (2,4,6) queste 3 note non stanno bene perchè non rispettano il suono, non potendole spostare consiglierei di toglierle
Accepted Hai ragionissima

Kith190 wrote:

00:21:817 (35,36,37,38) - questa struttura non mi sembra srispettare molto la base quindi consiglierei di mettere qualcosa come questa 00:22:039 qui 00:22:261 e questa 00:22:484 qui 00:22:928 .
00:28:484 - qui lo stesso
Accepted Mi piace molto di più

Kith190 wrote:

[Muzukashii]
00:33:372 (112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123) - questa parte segue solo vocal mentre tutto il resto segue il ritmo, mi sembra leggermente fuori poso, quindi proporrei al posto di questo:

mettere questo, o simili:

00:40:483 - qui lo stesso
Accepted Mi piace molto di più

Kith190 wrote:

[Oni]
potrei dirti cose tipo mettere qui 00:08:714 una k ma sarebbe tanto per dire qualcosa.
Not Accepted naaah mi piace di più come suona col d

Kith190 wrote:

Ultime 2 cose importanti:
- Quando in una mod ti dicono di sistemare una nota, controlla sempre se ci sono altre parti simili nella map.
- Non devi per forza accettare tutto quello che ti viene detto, molti mapper soprattutto quelli inesperti, quando moddano ti dicono solo di cambiare delle note con quello che metterebbero loro se la mappassero e questo non è moddare. Nessuno i vieta di dargli il kudosu e non specificare cosa hai tenuto per buono della sua mod

Yeah cool map gg Good luck for ranking! XD hahaha lol O.<
Io davvero ti giuro non so come ringraziarti, sei fantastico♥ l'unica cosa che mi rode è che volevo darti 2 kudosu ma te ne ha dato solo uno e io non conosco i criteri né come si fa rip
Protonori
Quick modding from my queue~
Remember that these are suggestions. Feel free to ignore them if they're too extreme.

[Kantan]
00:22:261 - Add a d here? It reflects the song's intensity without raising difficulty too much.
00:29:372 and 00:29:817 - Add k. Same reason as above.
00:57:816 (52,53,54) - You used this pattern at 00:54:261, but the pitch is higher here. Maybe use k k d instead?
01:01:372 (60,61,62) - Change to d k d to reflect the next pattern?
01:10:261 - Add a d here. Same reason as 00:22:261.
01:17:372 and 01:17:816 - Add k. Same reason as above.
01:45:959 - Change to k k d. Same reason as 00:57:816.
01:49:371 (113,114,115) - Change to d k d. Same reason as 01:01:372.
02:02:704 to ending - Consider using a simplified version of kiai instead (for consistency).

[Futsuu]
I'd recommend adding breaks in the kiai sections at least. Newer players might have a hard time playing it.
00:54:261 (101) - Change to d (if you delete the following note)
00:54:705 (102) - Delete note
00:56:928 (108,109) - Change to k and d respectively (if you delete the following notes)
00:58:261 (111,112) - Delete notes
01:01:372 (120) - Change to d (if you delete the following note)
01:01:816 (121) - Delete note
01:39:594 to 01:52:038 - Same as previous kiai

[Muzukashii]
00:19:595 (53) - This is the only finisher in the kiai section, but I don't hear anything in the song. Consider changing to a regular d?
00:36:706 - I think you wanted a break here, but it hurts the song's flow. Maybe add a d here.
00:40:261 - Same situation as above. Add a d here.
00:41:150 - Delete note for consistency.
00:40:706 - You used a d at 00:33:595, so change to d?
00:42:928 (147) - Delete note for consistency?
00:43:817 - Add d?
00:55:039 - The triple here seems unnecessary. Consider deleting this note.
00:58:594 - Same as above.
01:43:038 - Same as above.
01:46:593 - Same as above.

[Oni]
00:19:595 (69) - Same as the muzu. I don't hear anything here, so consider changing to a regular d.
00:26:595 - You had a small break in the stream at 00:19:261, so consider deleting this note.
I understand that the bpm is low + this is an oni, but I think small breaks would be a good addition in the kiai sections.

[Kith's Ura Oni]
01:10:038 - Maybe remove the 1/6 and just use 1/4 here?
01:24:705 - There's a note overlap here.

Overall, I think this is a very fun set to play through. I may have focused on consistency too much in my mod, though :o
If you disagree, of course, feel free to ignore.
Topic Starter
Arach
Response to Protonori's mod

Protonori wrote:

Quick modding from my queue~
Remember that these are suggestions. Feel free to ignore them if they're too extreme.
Hiiii Thanks so much for the mod ♥

Protonori wrote:

[Kantan]
00:22:261 - Add a d here? It reflects the song's intensity without raising difficulty too much.
Not Accepted I know it would be better with those ds but they actually raise the star rate too much. I really have problems mapping low difficulties, I know

00:29:372 and 00:29:817 - Add k. Same reason as above.
Accepted the first It does not raise diff and it sound better. Not Accepted the second because I do not think another triple is a good thing here

00:57:816 (52,53,54) - You used this pattern at 00:54:261, but the pitch is higher here. Maybe use k k d instead?
Accepted You are right. Thx for the suggestion :)

01:01:372 (60,61,62) - Change to d k d to reflect the next pattern?
Accepted You are right. Thx for the suggestion :)

01:10:261 - Add a d here. Same reason as 00:22:261. Not Accepted Same reason as above
01:17:372 and 01:17:816 - Add k. Same reason as above. Accepted the first Not Accepted the second
01:45:959 - Change to k k d. Same reason as 00:57:816. Accepted
01:49:371 (113,114,115) - Change to d k d. Same reason as 01:01:372. Accepted

02:02:704 to ending - Consider using a simplified version of kiai instead (for consistency). Accepted Removed triples and recalled some kiai patterns in a semplified version

Protonori wrote:

[Futsuu]
I'd recommend adding breaks in the kiai sections at least. Newer players might have a hard time playing it.
Accepted Removed some notes in the kiai sections

00:54:261 (101) - Change to d (if you delete the following note)
00:54:705 (102) - Delete note
00:56:928 (108,109) - Change to k and d respectively (if you delete the following notes)
00:58:261 (111,112) - Delete notes
01:01:372 (120) - Change to d (if you delete the following note)
01:01:816 (121) - Delete note
Not Accepted all of above because I found another way to semplify the kiai keeping the mirrorness (? can I say that? XD) of the patterns, but thanks anyway because your idea sounds cool too ^^

Protonori wrote:

[Muzukashii]
00:19:595 (53) - This is the only finisher in the kiai section, but I don't hear anything in the song. Consider changing to a regular d?
Accepted Yea, mabye it was an exageration xD

00:36:706 - I think you wanted a break here, but it hurts the song's flow. Maybe add a d here.
00:40:261 - Same situation as above. Add a d here.
Accepted It sounds even better, thanks ^^

00:41:150 - Delete note for consistency.
Accepted You are right

00:40:706 - You used a d at 00:33:595, so change to d?
Accepted It makes sense lol

00:42:928 (147) - Delete note for consistency?
00:43:817 - Add d?
Accepted I deleted it and added a d here instead 00:43:817 (148) -

00:55:039 - The triple here seems unnecessary. Consider deleting this note.
00:58:594 - Same as above.
01:43:038 - Same as above.
01:46:593 - Same as above.
Accepted I Like

Protonori wrote:

[Oni]
00:19:595 (69) - Same as the muzu. I don't hear anything here, so consider changing to a regular d.
Accepted Same reason as Muzu

00:26:595 - You had a small break in the stream at 00:19:261, so consider deleting this note.
I understand that the bpm is low + this is an oni, but I think small breaks would be a good addition in the kiai sections.
Not Accepted Because it is wanted, I do not want breaks in kiai sections in this map

Protonori wrote:

[Kith's Ura Oni]
01:10:038 - Maybe remove the 1/6 and just use 1/4 here?
01:24:705 - There's a note overlap here.
He made some changes, I do not know exactly what and where but he considered your suggestions, I will upload new Kith's Ura Oni soon

Protonori wrote:

Overall, I think this is a very fun set to play through. I may have focused on consistency too much in my mod, though :o
If you disagree, of course, feel free to ignore.
I am very thankful for the time you spent for my map and I really hope you enjoyed it. Feel free to give stars or put it in you favs, it will be a pleasure :) I am glad you find this set fun to play: osu is a GAME, so "fun" is the main thing I want to put in my maps. I am really happy ^^
Vulkin
meta check, not very good at this
no kds because meta mod dont deserve it :P

Title: Hero Of Our Time
Artist: NateWantsToBattle
Source: ゼルダの伝説 時のオカリナ
Tags: Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time Hyrule Field Songs Nathan Sharp Nintendo N64 Kith190 Vized

Reason why the change of meta, ignore if you want :P
the "A Legend Of Zelda Song" is not part of the title as seen on the description of the video, from what i understood
the description also says that the song is based on Hyrule Field, thats why its on the tags
and more specifically, its based on the "Ocarina of Time" version, hence the source, its on japanese because thats where the game came out first, the translation is on the tags anyway so dont worry
why songs? because this remix is from "Songs of Time" but the "of time" is already on tags so, just songs :P
link because main character why not
Nathan Sharp because thats NateWantsToBattle's name, as seen from the channel
nintendo and N64 because console from the ver it was based on :P
Vized because thats your old name isnt it?

might have gotten these wrong, but i hope it can help a bit
Topic Starter
Arach

Vulkin wrote:

meta check, not very good at this
no kds because meta mod dont deserve it :P

Title: Hero Of Our Time
Artist: NateWantsToBattle
Source: ゼルダの伝説 時のオカリナ
Tags: Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time Hyrule Field Songs Nathan Sharp Nintendo N64 Kith190 Vized

Reason why the change of meta, ignore if you want :P
the "A Legend Of Zelda Song" is not part of the title as seen on the description of the video, from what i understood
the description also says that the song is based on Hyrule Field, thats why its on the tags
and more specifically, its based on the "Ocarina of Time" version, hence the source, its on japanese because thats where the game came out first, the translation is on the tags anyway so dont worry
why songs? because this remix is from "Songs of Time" but the "of time" is already on tags so, just songs :P
link because main character why not
Nathan Sharp because thats NateWantsToBattle's name, as seen from the channel
nintendo and N64 because console from the ver it was based on :P
Vized because thats your old name isnt it?

might have gotten these wrong, but i hope it can help a bit
OMG I did not expect this, I-I'm so thankful to you ohw ♥
As you already know, this is my first mapset so I needed a help with metadata. I followed every tip you gave to me because I agree with the reasons.
I really appreciate that you spent time checking my beatmap and even searching for informations about it, that is why I am glad to give you kudosu anyway, it is worth. Thank you ♥
Vulkin

Arach wrote:

that is why I am glad to give you kudosu anyway, it is worth. Thank you ♥
No problem, but kds is by rule not given to meta mods, thats why the no kds, sorry :(
Poii
hay italiano numero uno :3

sorry for being late


General
ayyyy sir, pls dont tag your nickname you're the mapper, not Guest Mapper :3, i mean vized is oky, bcus its your old nick, but not Arach :3
del it pls

add this to tag :3 maybe


your mp3 bit rate :3 unrankable try to ask some ppl in modding que or do it by yourslef




unused files



your spread xD
kantan: 140
futsuu: 258
muzu: 538
oni: 641
ura: 764

yes,, spread between futsuu and muzu is too large, try to decrease the notes, nerf your muzu!


Muzu
00:08:039 (11) - :3 maybe to k, bcus i hear snare

00:08:706 - you can del this, bcuz it just a begginning, you dont have to make it intense

00:15:150 (33,34,35) - same like my first point, maybe to kdk or kkd, the pitch doesnt fit at all, bcuz the first note have highr pitch the the 2nd :3

00:16:928 (40,41) - maybe change to dd ? bcus it have differ pitch than 00:17:373 (42) -

00:18:039 (46) - & 00:25:150 (79) - & 00:26:928 (87) - & 00:28:706 (95) - same, change to d

00:30:706 - from here :3 you can combine both vocal and drum to make it enjoyable, it doesnt mean your pattern is bad, no, but i feel bored :3 yeah, bcus you just mapped the drum sound with lil variation, its just personal opinion :3 dont mind

00:32:483 (110,111) - & 00:34:261 (116,117) - & 00:36:039 (122,123) - & 00:39:594 (135,136) - & 00:41:372 (141,142) - ctrl + g, :3 kat for snare, d doesnt fit, like 00:36:706 (124,125) - < this one is fit :3

00:40:261 (137,138,139,140) - :3 i think this 00:33:150 (112,113,114,115) - is better

00:48:039 (162,163,164) - just make it same with the previous :3 it have same sound, if you want to do variation, use ddk :3 mirror

00:50:483 - hardest kai i've ever seen in my life in muzu :3, pls, add some break, just del some note, oky ? xD demn some new player who try muzu, will fail at this kai, pls consider it

why this have a kai 00:16:039 - but 01:04:039 - this doesnt ? it have same sound, not differ at all

01:06:039 - see my 5th point ? :3

01:20:483 - same with my 7th point :3 too lazy to copypaste

01:32:483 (367,368,369) - kkd same reason like my 9th point also 01:36:039 (377,378,379) -

also your 3rd kai :3 its too hard for muzu, add more break

your ending part, it have some lil prob, :3 using k for snare is better

futsuu
00:03:595 (2) - move to 00:03:817 - or add note there

00:14:706 - maybe del this ? to make a transition before kai

00:32:483 - to kat, same reason like in muzu, you want me to mention all ? no i wont xD yeah already mentioned in muzu, hope you got it , same like in this part 01:18:261 - :3

00:34:261 - same like above xD

00:48:039 - & 01:36:038 - kat pls, it have differ pitch, so use d there, isnt good

some part already mentioned in muzu :3 hope you understand
maybe you missused the k, i dunno, its to subjective but, mostly ppl use k for snare or high pitch, but you use d for sanre sound :3 it doesnt rly fit imo

thats all, your kantan seem oky, but yeah... goodluck
2 diff for 2 diff
Topic Starter
Arach

Poii wrote:

hay italiano numero uno :3
Hiiii sorry if I am very late, I was very busy, I will mod your map back as soon as I can. Thanks for this mod ♥
(one day I will be really "numero uno"... Well, I hope so XDDD)


sorry for being late
As you see, I am late too XDDD
In your boxes I added some notes, like if I accepted or not your suggestions. Check them out ^^

Poii wrote:

General
ayyyy sir, pls dont tag your nickname you're the mapper, not Guest Mapper :3, i mean vized is oky, bcus its your old nick, but not Arach :3
del it pls
Accepted XDDDD ops

add this to tag :3 maybe

PartiallyAccepted I think this song is not so indie tbh :')

your mp3 bit rate :3 unrankable try to ask some ppl in modding que or do it by yourslef

Accepted I fixed that



unused files

Accepted I fixed that


your spread xD
kantan: 140
futsuu: 258
muzu: 538
oni: 641
ura: 764

yes,, spread between futsuu and muzu is too large, try to decrease the notes, nerf your muzu!
Mmmhhh.. I tried, but if I nerf my Muzu the star rate gap among difficulties would not be still equal. I semplified something but I can't semplify too much


Muzu
00:08:039 (11) - :3 maybe to k, bcus i hear snare
Accepted I think so

00:08:706 - you can del this, bcuz it just a begginning, you dont have to make it intense
Accepted So we start decreasing the number of notes

00:15:150 (33,34,35) - same like my first point, maybe to kdk or kkd, the pitch doesnt fit at all, bcuz the first note have highr pitch the the 2nd :3
Accepted same reason ^^

00:16:928 (40,41) - maybe change to dd ? bcus it have differ pitch than 00:17:373 (42) -
Accepted I agree

00:18:039 (46) - & 00:25:150 (79) - & 00:26:928 (87) - & 00:28:706 (95) - same, change to d
Accepted the first 3 I agree Not Accepted the last because that note has a higher pitch than the other three you linked me

00:30:706 - from here :3 you can combine both vocal and drum to make it enjoyable, it doesnt mean your pattern is bad, no, but i feel bored :3 yeah, bcus you just mapped the drum sound with lil variation, its just personal opinion :3 dont mind
I consider this option, thank you for suggestion ^^ If I find another cool pattern I will use it

00:32:483 (110,111) - & 00:34:261 (116,117) - & 00:36:039 (122,123) - & 00:39:594 (135,136) - & 00:41:372 (141,142) - ctrl + g, :3 kat for snare, d doesnt fit, like 00:36:706 (124,125) - < this one is fit :3
Accepted all of above It sound better, Thx ^^

00:40:261 (137,138,139,140) - :3 i think this 00:33:150 (112,113,114,115) - is better
Accepted It sound better, Thx ^^

00:48:039 (162,163,164) - just make it same with the previous :3 it have same sound, if you want to do variation, use ddk :3 mirror
Not Accepted Only because I like my idea of having DD d d d KK d d d DD d d d, thx anyway ^^

00:50:483 - hardest kai i've ever seen in my life in muzu :3, pls, add some break, just del some note, oky ? xD demn some new player who try muzu, will fail at this kai, pls consider it
Accepted Mabye I understimated it XD Now is more human

why this have a kai 00:16:039 - but 01:04:039 - this doesnt ? it have same sound, not differ at all
Accepted I added the finisher where it was missing

01:06:039 - see my 5th point ? :3
Accepted If I agreed above, why I do not have to agree now XD

01:20:483 - same with my 7th point :3 too lazy to copypaste
Accepted If I agreed above, why I do not have to agree now XD

01:32:483 (367,368,369) - kkd same reason like my 9th point also 01:36:039 (377,378,379) -
Not Accepted Same reason as above

also your 3rd kai :3 its too hard for muzu, add more break
Accepted same as previous kiai

your ending part, it have some lil prob, :3 using k for snare is better
Accepted I made some changes

futsuu
00:03:595 (2) - move to 00:03:817 - or add note there
Not Accepted I think that for a Futsuu it is not so recommended to add notes just after big notes

00:14:706 - maybe del this ? to make a transition before kai
Not Accepted There is a consistent snare sound, I can't delete that note

00:32:483 - to kat, same reason like in muzu, you want to to mention all ? no i wont xD yeah already mentioned in muzu, hope you got it , same like in this part 01:18:261 - :3
00:34:261 - same like above xD
Accepted both If I agreed in muzu, why I do not have to agree now XD

00:48:039 - & 01:36:038 - kat pls, it have differ pitch, so use d there, isnt good
Accepted You are right :3

some part already mentioned in muzu :3 hope you understand
maybe you missused the k, i dunno, its to subjective but, mostly ppl use k for snare or high pitch, but you use d for sanre sound :3 it doesnt rly fit imo
Tbh I do not put d or k only following the sound of the song, I try to create my own melody on that song, that is my mapping style. this is why you thought that. I followed your suggestions because you are not the first who tells me that. I am a newbie in mapping, so I follow what people is expecting from me at the moment. If (one day) I will become an expert mapper, I can spread my style with more freedom ^^
Poii
SR doesnt matter
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/673311

You can decrease your note in kai, less triplet, add more 1/2 break or 1/1
Todotrucks
Hi, the offset seems a little bit odd, it should be settled on 00:01:850 I'll keep with the mod after this :3
iloveyou4ever
Hi M4M o/

[General]
:idea: Note spread between Futsuu and Muzukashii is quite large,you may need to nerf muzu/buff futsuu

Kantan
00:30:261 - change to finisher
:arrow: I think the beat is quite strong

00:38:261 (34,36) - ctrl+G
:arrow: give variation compared to d d d k d

01:04:039 - change to finisher
:arrow: explained

01:52:038 - ^
02:06:260 - ^

02:16:926 - remove spinner and change to K
:arrow: The beat doesn't last long,I think just a simple K would emphasize enough

I think structure and flow can be improved a little bit
The below is just some minor suggestions,you may check the usage of finishers,flow and consistency more!

Futsuu
:idea: change to finishers like kantan if you accepted it

00:10:706 (10,12) - change to K
:arrow: to be consistent with 00:46:261 (79,81) -

I suggest removing 00:54:705 (95) - and add note on 00:56:483 -
:arrow: 00:52:483 (90) - you put a note here but not 00:56:483 - which looks a bit inconsistent

00:58:483 - remove this and change 00:58:705 - to D
:arrow: I think d D can emphasize the strong drum sound on 00:58:705 -

01:46:261 (200,201,202) - same as above

01:55:371 - move to 01:55:149 -
:arrow: a bit repetitive imo

02:01:371 - change to d
:arrow: emphasize rolling drum sound on 02:01:815 (231,232) -

:idea: 02:02:704 - to 02:14:704 - usage of finishers are inconsistent
  1. 02:06:260 (238) - add finisher
    02:09:815 (244) - add finisher
    02:11:593 - add finisher
    NEED NOT add on 02:13:371 (251) - to emphasize the finishers on 02:15:149 (255,256) -
02:16:926 - same as kantan

The diffs are a bit inconsistent.And seems you're coping+pasting for repeated melodies,which makes it looks boring
The thing you have to do is to map more first imo,and you'll realise what's the problem of the map
Also try to get some experienced mods(I am experienced mapper but not modder XD)
Learning from others is also an effective way to gain experiences and train skills
Feel free to ask me if you've any question :)

Good Luck!
Topic Starter
Arach
I do not have Internet connection on my pc in these days, so I will update/correct mods between saturday and sunday
Topic Starter
Arach

Thousand wrote:

Hi, the offset seems a little bit odd, it should be settled on 00:01:850 I'll keep with the mod after this :3
Fixed :3 thank you, I modified the audio and the offset went crazy XD
Topic Starter
Arach

iloveyou4ever wrote:

Hi M4M o/
Hiiii! Thank you for the mod, I will mod back as soon as I can ^^

iloveyou4ever wrote:

[General]
:idea: Note spread between Futsuu and Muzukashii is quite large,you may need to nerf muzu/buff futsuu
I think I need a little help about this. I tried to nerf muzu but it did not sound good to me anymore. Mabye buff futsuu? But how? Have you some suggestions about this? I do not want to make futsuu too difficult but at the same time I do not want to make my muzu become too easy. I definitely need help XD

iloveyou4ever wrote:

Kantan
00:30:261 - change to finisher
:arrow: I think the beat is quite strong
Accepted It is fine

00:38:261 (34,36) - ctrl+G
:arrow: give variation compared to d d d k d
Accepted It is ok because beat 34 has higher pitch. I fixed every part which sounds like this

01:04:039 - change to finisher
:arrow: explained
01:52:038 - ^
Is it real fine to put a big note just after a normal one in a kantan?

02:06:260 - ^
Accepted It is fine

02:16:926 - remove spinner and change to K
:arrow: The beat doesn't last long,I think just a simple K would emphasize enough
Accepted You hurt my heart with this, because I love spinners but sadly you are right

I think structure and flow can be improved a little bit
The below is just some minor suggestions,you may check the usage of finishers,flow and consistency more!
I did not understand very well where consistency does not work tbh. You may be right for finishers and flow, that is why I am asking for mods: learning

Futsuu
:idea: change to finishers like kantan if you accepted it
Accepted It is fine

00:10:706 (10,12) - change to K
:arrow: to be consistent with 00:46:261 (79,81) -
Accepted Did not noticed, thank you

I suggest removing 00:54:705 (95) - and add note on 00:56:483 -
:arrow: 00:52:483 (90) - you put a note here but not 00:56:483 - which looks a bit inconsistent
I changed kiai section before reading this and I fixed it quite like you suggested, so it is fine

00:58:483 - remove this and change 00:58:705 - to D
:arrow: I think d D can emphasize the strong drum sound on 00:58:705 -
01:46:261 (200,201,202) - same as above
Accepted Cool, I agree

01:55:371 - move to 01:55:149 -
:arrow: a bit repetitive imo
I modified the whole section, hope it is better now

02:01:371 - change to d
:arrow: emphasize rolling drum sound on 02:01:815 (231,232) -
Accepted It is fine

:idea: 02:02:704 - to 02:14:704 - usage of finishers are inconsistent
  1. 02:06:260 (238) - add finisher
    02:09:815 (244) - add finisher
    02:11:593 - add finisher
    NEED NOT add on 02:13:371 (251) - to emphasize the finishers on 02:15:149 (255,256) -
Accepted Yea, I need some training about finishers

02:16:926 - same as kantan
Accepted same as kantan (and muzu and oni too)

The diffs are a bit inconsistent.And seems you're coping+pasting for repeated melodies,which makes it looks boring
The thing you have to do is to map more first imo,and you'll realise what's the problem of the map
Also try to get some experienced mods(I am experienced mapper but not modder XD)
Learning from others is also an effective way to gain experiences and train skills
Feel free to ask me if you've any question :)

Good Luck!
-_-Nico-_-
M4M
Hello
This is my mod

Kith's Ura Oni:

00:44:294 (234) - k -> d

00:58:516 (323) - k -> d

01:00:368 (334) - k -> d

01:10:961 (411) - k -> d

01:18:072 (466) - k -> d

01:25:072 (501) - k -> d

01:26:294 (508) - d

01:32:294 (546) - k -> d

02:02:516 (716) - k -> d

02:04:072 (719,720,721) - d k d -> dkkkd

02:13:738 (756,757,758,759,760,761,762,763,764) -> 1/12

02:17:182 (763) - delete

Oni:

00:09:183 (20) - d

00:37:849 (177) - d -> k

00:44:516 (203,204,205) - ddd -> kkd

00:48:072 (213,214) - dd -> kk

01:32:295 (463,464,465,466,467) - kkd d d -> ddk k d

01:36:072 (476,477) - d d -> k k

02:09:183 (622) - d

02:15:184 (643,644) - d d -> k k

This whole my mod [I'm sorry, but I can write only mod for Oni and the like^^]
And Good Luck~
Topic Starter
Arach

-_-Nico-_- wrote:

M4M
Hello
This is my mod
Hiii! Thanks for it! ^^

-_-Nico-_- wrote:

Kith's Ura Oni
Kith's Ura Oni:

00:44:294 (234) - k -> d

00:58:516 (323) - k -> d

01:00:368 (334) - k -> d

01:10:961 (411) - k -> d

01:18:072 (466) - k -> d

01:25:072 (501) - k -> d

01:26:294 (508) - d

01:32:294 (546) - k -> d

02:02:516 (716) - k -> d

02:04:072 (719,720,721) - d k d -> dkkkd

02:13:738 (756,757,758,759,760,761,762,763,764) -> 1/12

02:17:182 (763) - delete

He fixed something (do not know what exactly) and I already updated it

Oni
Oni:

00:09:183 (20) - d
It is already a d.. Hmm XD

00:37:849 (177) - d -> k
Accepted Yea, that's right

00:44:516 (203,204,205) - ddd -> kkd
00:48:072 (213,214) - dd -> kk
01:32:295 (463,464,465,466,467) - kkd d d -> ddk k d
01:36:072 (476,477) - d d -> k k
Not Accepted all of above because it is similar to the section at the beginning and I respect the pitch with this configuration

02:09:183 (622) - d
Accepted Ok, ok, maybe it is better

02:15:184 (643,644) - d d -> k k
Accepted Yea, that's right

-_-Nico-_- wrote:

This whole my mod [I'm sorry, but I can write only mod for Oni and the like^^]
And Good Luck~
Do not worry, thank you anyway ^^ And good luck to you too ^^
Todotrucks
Hi! NM from here

Oni
  • 00:31:072 add d
    00:31:516 ^
    00:31:850 add ddkk
    00:32:627 add k
    00:32:849 add dk
    00:34:183 add d
    00:34:405 add k
    00:34:627 add dd
    00:35:072 add d
    00:35:516 add dd
    00:35:961 add d
    00:37:738 ^
    01:19:072 ^
    01:19:516 ^
    01:19:738 add k
    01:19:961 add dd
    01:20:405 add d
    01:22:183 ^
    01:25:738 ^
    01:27:072 add dd
    01:52:183 add dd
    01:52:849 add d
    01:53:183 ^
    01:54:627 ^
    move 01:55:072 (714) - to 01:54:961
    01:55:516 add k
    change 01:55:626 (717) - to d
    move 01:55:960 (719) - to 01:56:405
    move 01:56:849 (723) - to 01:56:738
    01:57:294 add k
    change 01:57:404 (726) - to d
    move 01:57:738 (727) - to 01:57:627
    01:58:183 add d
    01:58:516 ^
    01:59:961 ^
    02:00:294 ^
    02:00:849 ^
    02:14:516 ^
    move 02:14:627 (798) - to 02:14:738
    delete 02:17:182 (803) -
What you apply or reject is up to you, good luck with ranking and sorry for taking too long

Tell me if you don't understand something :3
Topic Starter
Arach
Response to Thousand mod
I am so damn late, I am very sorry ^^'

Thousand wrote:

Hi! NM from here
Hi ^^ Thank you for the mod!

00:31:072 add d
Accepted I used this suggestion to modify the whole section

00:31:516 ^
Not Accepted Because I added a k just after, so I found another similar solution

00:31:850 add ddkk
00:32:627 add k
Not Accepted same reason as above

00:32:849 add dk
Not Accepted I like the break there

00:34:183 add d
Accepted Oh yeah. I like it so much

00:34:405 add k
00:34:627 add dd
Not Accepted I wanted to follow vocals for those points

00:35:072 add d
Not Accepted Too much triplets... I think about new oni players who use this low bpm map to learn patterns... I want to give some breath XD

00:35:516 add dd
Added k instead

00:35:961 add d
Accepted like above

00:37:738 ^
Not Accepted Like above

01:19:072 ^
Accepted like above at similar point

01:19:516 ^
01:19:738 add k
Not Accepted Like above (found another solution)

01:19:961 add dd
Added k instead

01:20:405 add d
Not Accepted Like above (found another solution)

01:22:183 ^
Accepted like above at similar point

01:25:738 ^
01:27:072 add dd
Not Accepted Too much triplets... Like above

01:52:183 add dd
Not Accepted Nah, I do not like it sorry XD

01:52:849 add d
Accepted I definitely like it

01:53:183 ^
Not Accepted But I do not like it here XD

01:54:627 ^
I added it here instead 01:55:516 -

move 01:55:072 (714) - to 01:54:961
Not Accepted I want to follow vocals here

01:55:516 add k
Added d instead, like I told you before

change 01:55:626 (717) - to d
Not Accepted Because there is an evident accent: I think a k is better here

move 01:55:960 (719) - to 01:56:405
Not Accepted Nah, I do not like it sorry XD

move 01:56:849 (723) - to 01:56:738
Not Accepted Like above at similar point

01:57:294 add k
Added d instead

change 01:57:404 (726) - to d
move 01:57:738 (727) - to 01:57:627
Not Accepted Like above at similar points

01:58:183 add d
01:59:961 ^
02:00:849 ^
I like how it sounds but I want to keep a little singletap

01:58:516 ^
02:00:294 ^
Accepted

02:14:516 ^
Not Accepted Too much after a pattern like that in a oni for me

move 02:14:627 (798) - to 02:14:738
I do not understand mmhhh..

delete 02:17:182 (803) -
I already deleted it before reading your mod, thank you anyway ^^

What you apply or reject is up to you, good luck with ranking and sorry for taking too long
No matter, I'm more late than you I guess XD Thank you for all and I wish you the best! BB ♫

Tell me if you don't understand something :3
Misery
hello, from our modq. Sorry for a week late, I was at job. beginner modder, I might not know what I'm doing, so let's go.

Kantan
All good.

Futsuu
01:32:071 (176,177) - d then k for emphasis?
01:19:182 (148) - idontknow if removing this makes it better

Muzu
00:17:406 (41) - k because you did k on 00:22:739 (65) and on the other patterns in the same kiai?
01:18:072 (299) - k because lol i just think it fits better
01:30:960 (350,351) - you might have missed an important note between these two
02:04:071 (472,473,474) - three finishers sound too much here imo

Oni
00:12:517 (28,29) - should be same color since they sound the same (like the previous ones) kk is fine
00:29:184 (136,137,138) - kdd for end kiai emphasis?
01:30:961 (473) - I feel like moving this half a beat forward sounds better

Kith
00:35:405 (182,183) - missed a note between here

the two choruses 1/4 spam end so differently it's kinda weird from the editor perspective, like
00:56:961 (309,310,311,312,313,314,315,316,317,318,319,320,321,322,323,324,325) - is ddddkkkkddddkkkk while 01:44:961 (620,621,622,623,624,625,626,627,628,629,630,631,632,633,634,635,636) - is just different, idontknow if this is for variety but it broke my expectations given how the other diffs were mapped (iknow this is a gd but still)

02:16:961 (762,763) - i like kd better lol
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