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blobdash
no kds again
kiai isn't snapped on easy normal hard
one object isn't snapped on insane
Topic Starter
Xinnoh
too many quotes so need to delete one, i tried fixing format but made it worse instead (:

as promised

will be in blue for the reply
i should format my mods more thinking

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Sinnoh wrote:

i'm gonna miss a couple things because of the formatting i'll just edit as I see them

Abraxos wrote:

[notice]

insane


01:25:786 (85786|2,85786|3,85947|2) - it's neat that you placed emphasis on the higher tone by stacking but
01:27:399 (87399|2,87560|1) - it died here sadly
you could possibly use a short LN just exclusively for that high-pitched tone but idk thought id bring this up to you nah
issue is regarding the inconsistency in the emphasis, if 01:25:786 (85786|3,85786|2,85947|3) - and 01:27:399 (87399|2,87560|3) - are essentially the same in tone then i don't really understand why they're patterned differently fixed oops, keeping 01:51:754 (111754|0) - tho since flow is more important

&& 01:38:044 (98044|2,98689|2,99334|1) - these would've been fine if there weren't other LNs emphasizing other things
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9084910 there are other ways to go about representing the sounds here, maybe you should look into that idk how though
its fine now since you cleared out the LNs from before


03:05:141 (185141|1,185141|2,185141|0,185302|3,185463|1,185463|0,185463|2) - 03:04:496 (184496|2,184496|1,184496|3,184657|0,184818|1,184818|2,184818|3) - structurally speaking these are one and the same (only discernible difference is just the transition between these two structurally similar parts), and its easy to lose on the player what a triple is supposed to mean if you allow it to represent two different entities at the same time
the argument here is just "03:04:818 - is pretty much weaker than 03:05:141 - in intensity so its weird that 03:04:818 (184818|2,184818|1,184818|3,185141|0,185141|2,185141|1) - theyre layered the same" i kinda just fleshed out that argument a bit more so its more convincing but idk think i overdid it removed some of the triples on those sections

nice work on the insane diff though

the rest of the mod
[notice]

hard

01:23:528 (83528|1,83689|1,84173|1,84334|1) - maybe shift these stacks, might be a little straining reworked

01:46:109 (106109|2,106431|2,106754|2,107076|2,107399|2,107721|2) - shift these? mfw anchor

i actually looked through hard once and it seems pretty alright to me so a lot of the suggestions would be nitpicky

01:52:076 (112076|1,112238|2) - you should shift this once to the right so 01:51:915 - 01:52:238 - are the same chords, following the beat in the music
01:51:592 (111592|0,111754|1,111915|0,112076|1,112238|0) - also because of this moved right

02:25:141 (145141|3,145141|0,145786|0,145786|3) - make these different chords cause the pitches of the piano aren't the same weird flow after but done

02:54:818 (174818|1,174980|0) - could stack these for the percussion has better flow too

03:09:980 (189980|2,190141|2,190302|2) - :blobsweats: ctrl-h

i do see some form of logic to how and where you placed the notes in the kiai (which is good), but at 02:48:367 (168367|3) - i think you should note these beats at least, because you already did so at 02:45:947 (165947|3) - and also ignoring them at this difficulty is a bit odd to me not the same sound but mapped for all

03:11:754 (191754|0) - isnt this supposed to be a note? seeing 03:09:173 (189173|0) - 03:16:915 (196915|1) - and stuff has the 1/6 sound so I used LN but would be too dense for hard

03:18:367 (198367|0) - part is a little bit LN heavy, might be a bit too much for players here - you *could* delete 03:18:367 (198367|1) - and it'll still somewhat be fine did that + lane 1 is 1/2

03:20:463 (200463|2,200544|3,200625|2) - this trill uses only one hand and can be unexpectedly difficult, so you might wanna edit it is like others now

[box=broke format]

normal

01:24:657 - note pls
01:29:818 - can see the logic behind how you decided to place the notes, but again - you're kinda skipping over something pretty obvious to the player imo
i''m aware that you want to emphasize further on the dong sound at 01:24:496 - so here's a possible solution https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9100109
If you notice at 01:24:496 - there's a 434 or one-handed trill; I figured this would be a better way of pointing out the subtle dong to the player. if you need some help structuring some of your patterns then feel free to ask i wasn't mapping these because i wanted to decrease note density for easier NM lol

01:29:012 (89012|3,89173|2,89334|3,89496|2,89657|3) - too dense on the left hand, it's a bit unbalanced for the player to hit right hand but yeah

01:41:109 (101109|2,101270|2) - maybe try not to stack, 01:41:270 (101270|2,101350|3) - is a bit weird to hit for newbs and 01:40:947 (100947|3,101109|2,101270|2) - makes the weird pattern harder to hit as it strains the hand moved 01:41:270 (101270|1) - to 2

01:43:689 (103689|1,104012|1,104334|1,104657|1) - a little unbalanced, but i kinda see what youre doing here

01:48:205 (108205|2) - delete, you didnt place a note here back at 01:48:205 (108205|2) - ur copy paste messed up, but if it's 01:45:625 (105625|1) - there's a kick on 48 which isnt at 45
01:50:786 (110786|1) - or perhaps its 01:48:205 (108205|2) - that is wrong deleted this one
make sure to edit the other sections

01:48:044 (108044|1,108367|1,108689|1,109173|1,109496|1,109818|1,110141|1) - patterns here are pretty left-hand biased, might want to look into that moved some over

01:52:721 (112721|2) - a bit confusing since 01:52:238 (112238|0,112560|3,112883|1) - these LNs clearly tell me that you're following the whistle, and it might throw players off when you put notes for the bass beats too (keep in mind this is a normal so) fixed

02:03:205 (123205|2) - lower pitch than 02:02:238 (122238|1) - so might want to shift 02:02:238 (122238|1) - to 1 sure

02:37:560 (157560|3,157721|2,157883|3,158044|2,158367|3,158528|2,158850|2,159012|3,159173|2,159334|3,159496|2) - kinda get what you tried to do, but its a bit too much on the right imo 02:37:883 (157883|1) - to lane 2
03:21:592 (201592|0,201754|1,201915|0,202076|1,202238|0) - also a bit wewlad on the left moved stuff

kiai looks fine though

easy

01:24:818 (84818|3) - not quite sure why you noted this, there's no percussion there delet

01:29:334 (89334|3,89496|2,89657|3) - one hand trill might be a bit overkill for this difficulty changed to other pattern

01:41:270 (101270|0) - personal opinion but i'd rather have the LN start here tbh, the gallops ( 01:41:754 (101754|3,101915|2) - ) themselves are just note to note so to suddenly changing to note to LN might throw some players off moved back 1/4

02:40:302 - 02:41:592 - think you should just note these, it's awkward for the player if you don't changed some patterns

03:11:592 (191592|0,191915|0) - could choose to not stack these, since the beats here aren't the same as 03:12:883 (192883|2,193205|2) - ok

i think it currently looks fine, should be bubblable barring some minor layering stuff i didn't want to bother to poke around about owo

hopefully, the mod was helpful. if anything you can probably just @ me on discord very helpful mod, many thanks!
gl with rank also don't forget the m4m
didn't expect feedback to be this good, was hoping to get some mods to improve as a mapper, but I think I'll try and see where this goes
Ultima Fox
Hey!

First of all, you can add Blood Orange EP to the tags because that is the album the song is from

Just some quick thoughts on easy

(| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |)

  1. 01:27:721 (87721|1,87721|3) - This seems to be the only time you have 2 notes on a normal kick besides for during the buildup here 01:31:592 (91592|0,91592|1) - so I think you should remove the note in 2
  2. 02:39:980 (159980|0,160302|1,160625|3,160947|3,161270|0,161592|1,161915|3,162238|3) - This part seems weird, because the two ascending notes are represented with a jack and the two kicks are represented with ascending notes. I feel like you should change this so that 02:39:980 (159980|0,160302|1) - are both in 1 and 02:40:625 (160625|3,160947|3) - are in 3 and 4 to match the song (and same for 02:41:270 (161270|0,161592|1,161915|3,162238|3) )
also on normal

  1. 01:24:496 (84496|1,84496|0,84818|2) - At least to me, it sounds like there should be something in between here yet theres no note. (this applies to all of these parts) just imo
  2. 03:05:786 (185786|3,185786|1,186109|0,186270|1,186431|0,186431|2) - Patterns like these might be a little too hard for people who play normals, but I think it might be okay
lol sorry for bad mod, but hope it helped :)
Topic Starter
Xinnoh

Ultima Fox wrote:

Hey!

First of all, you can add Blood Orange EP to the tags because that is the album the song is from added some tags

Just some quick thoughts on easy

(| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |)

  1. 01:27:721 (87721|1,87721|3) - This seems to be the only time you have 2 notes on a normal kick besides for during the buildup here 01:31:592 (91592|0,91592|1) - so I think you should remove the note in 2 fixed!
  2. 02:39:980 (159980|0,160302|1,160625|3,160947|3,161270|0,161592|1,161915|3,162238|3) - This part seems weird, because the two ascending notes are represented with a jack and the two kicks are represented with ascending notes. I feel like you should change this so that 02:39:980 (159980|0,160302|1) - are both in 1 and 02:40:625 (160625|3,160947|3) - are in 3 and 4 to match the song (and same for 02:41:270 (161270|0,161592|1,161915|3,162238|3) ) woops meant to be other way around since i did that on other diffs lol
also on normal

  1. 01:24:496 (84496|1,84496|0,84818|2) - At least to me, it sounds like there should be something in between here yet theres no note. (this applies to all of these parts) just imo if multiple people ask to add then i will then, had 1/1s to be better for spread
  2. 03:05:786 (185786|3,185786|1,186109|0,186270|1,186431|0,186431|2) - Patterns like these might be a little too hard for people who play normals, but I think it might be okay I tried to keep roughly same density as this set https://osu.ppy.sh/b/778353
lol sorry for bad mod, but hope it helped :) thanks! clearly explained + all were valid points
unrelated but added some really easy SVs at easiest parts of hard diff, felt should at least have some

+Insane, 03:18:367 (198367|2,198528|3) - now has a slightly inconsistent SV, but it's the only place with 1/2 LNs for violins, so I lowered the contrast between them to be a bit more readable
Botan

M4M Req: t/641620
columns: 0|1|2|3
  1. I would definitely cut the MP3 to save a bit on file size. 1:21 minutes + 21 seconds = 1:42 total of no playing time, while we have 1:44 seconds of playing time.
  2. Either map more or cut cause 50:50 ratio is pretty staggering

EZ
01:31:270 (91270|2) - LN this. Would help add some kind of pause/bounce effect on 01:31:592 (91592|0,91592|1) I think it is okay to leave 01:31:431 empty since the sound happens only once during the intro and noting it along with this LN suggestion might be too hard.
01:32:560 (92560|1) - I would use a single note here instead + a note 01:32:721 - to 1) match the structure 01:24:173 (84173|3,84334|2,84496|1,84496|0) and 2) to map that snare on the blue tick.
01:38:689 - Add second note here for the claps. Example) 01:34:818 (94818|2,94818|3)
01:39:657 - Add note
01:39:980 (99980|0) - Add second note here for the claps.
>>
01:29:334 (89334|3,89496|2,89657|0,89657|1) - Maybe have this one ascending and...
01:34:496 (94496|0,94657|1,94818|2,94818|3) - descending...
That way the 3 patterns will be --> descend, ascend, descend instead of descend, descend, ascend.
>>
01:37:883 - Note?
01:41:915 (101915|2) - Maybe make this an 1/1 LN for the rising synth? The synth is sidechained at 01:42:560 and then recovers at 01:42:883 so if we add the LN here it feels cool.
01:48:205 - Note?
01:50:947 (110947|1,110947|0,111270|3) - These both should be the same, either both chords or a single note. Take your pick.
01:58:528 - Note?
02:03:850 - Personally, and I don't play mania so I don't know if it's acceptable or not, but I'd use a really long ass LN here for the entire break section. xD
>>
03:10:141 - How about this? https://imgur.com/a/EJ16D
02:49:496 and 03:10:141 are mapped differently.
I would do my suggestion because I don't believe the LN 03:10:302 (190302|0) works best for that particular moment and also 2-note chord to represent the snare.

NM
01:26:109 - Would it be too weird to put a 1/2 LN here for that air noise?
01:36:431 - Same as ^
01:32:560 - What's the difference between this and 01:42:883 for the first one to not have an LN?
01:45:786 (105786|0) - Shouldn't one of these be an LN? Example) 01:45:786 (105786|0) - 01:48:367 (108367|3) - 01:50:947 (110947|2)
01:51:592 - One of these should be an LN, whistle sound
01:51:915 - LN, whistle sound
02:03:850 - Same as EZ
03:15:463 (195463|3) - No LN needed here. Every LN in the kiai so far have either been strings or squelchy bass thingy, this is neither of them.

Good luck.
Topic Starter
Xinnoh

Botan wrote:


M4M Req: t/641620
columns: 0|1|2|3
  1. I would definitely cut the MP3 to save a bit on file size. 1:21 minutes + 21 seconds = 1:42 total of no playing time, while we have 1:44 seconds of playing time.
  2. Either map more or cut cause 50:50 ratio is pretty staggering

EZ
01:31:270 (91270|2) - LN this. Would help add some kind of pause/bounce effect on 01:31:592 (91592|0,91592|1) I think it is okay to leave 01:31:431 empty since the sound happens only once during the intro and noting it along with this LN suggestion might be too hard. added LN
01:32:560 (92560|1) - I would use a single note here instead + a note 01:32:721 - to 1) match the structure 01:24:173 (84173|3,84334|2,84496|1,84496|0) and 2) to map that snare on the blue tick. first one ends on a clap, second one ends on a downbeat, adding note too dense for EZ + maps wub
01:38:689 - Add second note here for the claps. Example) 01:34:818 (94818|2,94818|3) Good idea, but here I wanted to focus horn more. Makes the LNs more distinct and better emphasis on the change at 01:41:270 (101270|1) -
01:39:657 - Add note
01:39:980 (99980|0) - Add second note here for the claps.
>>
01:29:334 (89334|3,89496|2,89657|0,89657|1) - Maybe have this one ascending and...
01:34:496 (94496|0,94657|1,94818|2,94818|3) - descending...
That way the 3 patterns will be --> descend, ascend, descend instead of descend, descend, ascend. good idea, changed first instead so ascend, descend, ascend
>>
01:37:883 - Note? fits but would mess with the horn emphasis i mentioned before
01:41:915 (101915|2) - Maybe make this an 1/1 LN for the rising synth? The synth is sidechained at 01:42:560 and then recovers at 01:42:883 so if we add the LN here it feels cool. fits, but compare how LNs are used, they're only on really unique sounds + horn
01:48:205 - Note? doesn't fit before large downbeat
01:50:947 (110947|1,110947|0,111270|3) - These both should be the same, either both chords or a single note. Take your pick. one has the horn, they aren't the same
01:58:528 - Note? in future mods, just paste the timestamp like this below
(not a mod) 01:37:883 - 01:48:205 - 01:58:528 - takes less space since it's the same thing + easier for both people to read :)
02:03:850 - Personally, and I don't play mania so I don't know if it's acceptable or not, but I'd use a really long ass LN here for the entire break section. xD lmao no
>>
03:10:141 - How about this? https://imgur.com/a/EJ16D 1/4 LN is too much for ez
02:49:496 and 03:10:141 are mapped differently. yea noticed i missed a note on the snare with previous point
I would do my suggestion because I don't believe the LN 03:10:302 (190302|0) works best for that particular moment and also 2-note chord to represent the snare.

NM
01:26:109 - Would it be too weird to put a 1/2 LN here for that air noise? nah, some might but personal style I only like to follow the clearest melody
01:36:431 - Same as ^
01:32:560 - What's the difference between this and 01:42:883 for the first one to not have an LN? used a jack in first one to follow drum, adding LN would be too much for NM. In second there is no drum, so I used two LN to highligh the wub sound
01:45:786 (105786|0) - Shouldn't one of these be an LN? Example) 01:45:786 (105786|0) - 01:48:367 (108367|3) - 01:50:947 (110947|2) yea missed those lul, ty
01:51:592 - One of these should be an LN, whistle sound whistle isn't dominant yet
01:51:915 - LN, whistle sound
02:03:850 - Same as EZ
03:15:463 (195463|3) - No LN needed here. Every LN in the kiai so far have either been strings or squelchy bass thingy, this is neither of them. changed pattern to be same as other one

Good luck. will finish up your mod soon, thank you!
Weber
respond to THIS *unzips mod very soon*
Litharrale

Weber wrote:

respond to THIS *unzips mod very soon*
11 days ago
Not gonna check SVs because I'm assuming you've already averaged them and got them under control. They play fine, kiai is a bit weird but meh

Your offsets negative, don't do this. Bubbles get popped because of this

Leaving the first third of the song unmapped is kind of weird. I get why you did it and it's not against the RC because it's the intro but it's still weird. Adds almost 2MB to the folder size which is pretty significant for poor connections like me. You could easily cut out the first 60 seconds and start it where the quiet section is around 1:05

Some hitsound inconsistencies between diffs for example here, also don't double hitsound like this

softclap.wav blends in way too much with the song. I can barely hear it at all when it's used and I generally have my effects volume pretty high up. Swap it out for something a little more noticeable

Tags conflict between diffs

Not sure why there's an .osb when there's no storyboard

There's a nosv.osu in the folder which is not visible in game, no idea how this happened but it needs to go. Plop it in the map description or something

Hitsounds in general are very simplistic. For example 01:37:399 (97399|2) - a very different sound here but only the basic clap is used and is hence pretty much invisible

Some weird hitsound choices that i'm not sure are intentional or not (for the insane) you swap to the second soft sample set at 2:24:657 and then proceed to use whistles randomly despite them having no hitsound file attached to them, so it's just a blank sound which is definitely unrankable. As far as I can tell this is the only time you use the second sampleset and I dont know why its included.

drum-hitclap.wav seems to be unused, remove it.

Not going to delve into the patterns because I think this is toodeepforme. Lots of ghost notes like 02:49:980 (169980|1,170141|1) - (in the insane) that dont make much sense at all.

Seems like a solid map that's had a lot of thought put into the patterning but not much else. most of those "not much else" issues are addressed here though so it's not a difficult fix. Good luck!
Topic Starter
Xinnoh

Litharrale wrote:

Weber wrote:

respond to THIS *unzips mod very soon*
11 days ago
Not gonna check SVs because I'm assuming you've already averaged them and got them under control. They play fine, kiai is a bit weird but meh

Your offsets negative, don't do this. Bubbles get popped because of this no they don't

Leaving the first third of the song unmapped is kind of weird. I get why you did it and it's not against the RC because it's the intro but it's still weird. Adds almost 2MB to the folder size which is pretty significant for poor connections like me. You could easily cut out the first 60 seconds and start it where the quiet section is around 1:05

Some hitsound inconsistencies between diffs for example here, also don't double hitsound like this fixed

softclap.wav blends in way too much with the song. I can barely hear it at all when it's used and I generally have my effects volume pretty high up. Swap it out for something a little more noticeable replaced with a higher pitched/louder version

Tags conflict between diffs fixed

Not sure why there's an .osb when there's no storyboard i don't think there's one, but it's gone

There's a nosv.osu in the folder which is not visible in game, no idea how this happened but it needs to go. Plop it in the map description or something also gone

Hitsounds in general are very simplistic. For example 01:37:399 (97399|2) - a very different sound here but only the basic clap is used and is hence pretty much invisible this is drum-hitclap, all others are soft-hitclap

Some weird hitsound choices that i'm not sure are intentional or not (for the insane) you swap to the second soft sample set at 2:24:657 and then proceed to use whistles randomly despite them having no hitsound file attached to them, so it's just a blank sound which is definitely unrankable. As far as I can tell this is the only time you use the second sampleset and I dont know why its included. i'm using the default soft-hitwhistle

drum-hitclap.wav seems to be unused, remove it. it's used for the whole kiai

Not going to delve into the patterns because I think this is toodeepforme. Lots of ghost notes like 02:49:980 (169980|1,170141|1) - (in the insane) that dont make much sense at all. there's a really audible sound on that

Seems like a solid map that's had a lot of thought put into the patterning but not much else. most of those "not much else" issues are addressed here though so it's not a difficult fix. Good luck!
updated, I might change bg just so it's different to shiirns
Crumpey
As requested in Crumpey's Mod Queue!


Insane
01:58:044 (118044|3,118689|2,119334|2,119980|0,120625|0) - not really sure what these lns are representing

02:06:431 (126431|3,127076|2,127721|1,128367|0) - they were lns a second ago, doesnt make much sense to not have them lns now

02:24:496 (144496|3) - delete this

02:24:657 (144657|2) - move to col 4 for finger balance

02:45:141 (165141|0,165463|0,166109|3,166431|3,166431|0,166754|0) - not liking these cheeky 1/8 jacks

02:45:141 (165141|0,165463|0,166109|3,166431|0,166431|3,166754|0,167721|1,168044|1,168689|0,169012|0,169657|3,170302|3) - 1/8s

02:53:850 (173850|2,174173|2,175141|1,175463|2,175463|1,175786|2) - 1/8s

02:54:334 (174334|1) - move to col 1, seems to be ignored a little here (not a massive deal tho)

02:54:334 (174334|1,175141|1,175463|1,175463|2,175786|2,176754|1,177076|1) - 1/8s

02:58:044 (178044|0,178367|0,179334|2,179657|2,179980|0,180302|3,180625|3,180625|0,180625|2,180947|2,181592|3,181915|3,182238|3,182883|3,183205|3,183528|3) - 1/8s

03:05:786 (185786|2,186109|2,186754|1,187076|1,188367|3,188367|1,188689|1,189012|0,189012|3,189657|2,189980|2,190302|1,190302|0,190947|1,191915|3,192036|1,192238|1,192238|3,193205|1,193205|3,193528|3,193528|1,193528|0,193850|0,194173|3,194496|3,194496|0,194818|0,195786|3,196109|3,197076|0,197399|0,198367|0,198689|0,198689|2,199012|2,199657|2,199980|2,200625|2,200947|2,200947|0,201270|0,201270|1,201592|1,202238|0,202359|1,202560|1,202560|0,203528|1,203528|3,203850|3,203850|1,203850|0,204173|0,204173|2,204496|1,204496|0,204496|2,204818|1,205141|1) - The amount of 1/8s is insane
alot of these are the same but i feel its very important to highlight all ( or at least i tried t ) of the 1/8s because they dont feel that fun to play.

The songs pretty cool, i disagree with the unmapped portion and break time although i get its rankable so im not going to question it further.
the 1/8s were painful to hit and the svs feel off (i dont know much about svs) made it super easy to misjudge when the next note was coming.
Topic Starter
Xinnoh

CrumpetFiddler wrote:

As requested in Crumpey's Mod Queue!


Insane
01:58:044 (118044|3,118689|2,119334|2,119980|0,120625|0) - not really sure what these lns are representing trumpet noises

02:06:431 (126431|3,127076|2,127721|1,128367|0) - they were lns a second ago, doesnt make much sense to not have them lns now ok

02:24:496 (144496|3) - delete this ok

02:24:657 (144657|2) - move to col 4 for finger balance ok

02:45:141 (165141|0,165463|0,166109|3,166431|3,166431|0,166754|0) - not liking these cheeky 1/8 jacks

02:45:141 (165141|0,165463|0,166109|3,166431|0,166431|3,166754|0,167721|1,168044|1,168689|0,169012|0,169657|3,170302|3) - 1/8s

02:53:850 (173850|2,174173|2,175141|1,175463|2,175463|1,175786|2) - 1/8s

02:54:334 (174334|1) - move to col 1, seems to be ignored a little here (not a massive deal tho) is fine

02:54:334 (174334|1,175141|1,175463|1,175463|2,175786|2,176754|1,177076|1) - 1/8s

02:58:044 (178044|0,178367|0,179334|2,179657|2,179980|0,180302|3,180625|3,180625|0,180625|2,180947|2,181592|3,181915|3,182238|3,182883|3,183205|3,183528|3) - 1/8s

03:05:786 (185786|2,186109|2,186754|1,187076|1,188367|3,188367|1,188689|1,189012|0,189012|3,189657|2,189980|2,190302|1,190302|0,190947|1,191915|3,192036|1,192238|1,192238|3,193205|1,193205|3,193528|3,193528|1,193528|0,193850|0,194173|3,194496|3,194496|0,194818|0,195786|3,196109|3,197076|0,197399|0,198367|0,198689|0,198689|2,199012|2,199657|2,199980|2,200625|2,200947|2,200947|0,201270|0,201270|1,201592|1,202238|0,202359|1,202560|1,202560|0,203528|1,203528|3,203850|3,203850|1,203850|0,204173|0,204173|2,204496|1,204496|0,204496|2,204818|1,205141|1) - The amount of 1/8s is insane
alot of these are the same but i feel its very important to highlight all ( or at least i tried t ) of the 1/8s because they dont feel that fun to play. it's just 186 bpm 1/4, discussed in discord that it's really not an issue imo

The songs pretty cool, i disagree with the unmapped portion and break time although i get its rankable so im not going to question it further. i was going to ironically map the opening section to show just how boring it would be to play but it was to boring for me to finish it
the 1/8s were painful to hit and the svs feel off (i dont know much about svs) made it super easy to misjudge when the next note was coming.
Hydria
hurrr durrr map the intro hurrrrrrrrrrr hey look im everyone else

dont look at this mod im prob just rambling on

Insane
01:26:109 (86109|0,86270|1) - shouldn't they be descending due to PR

01:28:528 (88528|0) - should that be on 4 and then 01:28:689 (88689|2,88850|3) - moved one to the left?

01:29:980 (89980|0) - move to 4 and maybe move 01:29:818 (89818|2) - to 2 or even 1

01:30:463 (90463|0,90625|2,90786|1) - 4|1|2

I feel like 01:31:270 (91270|2,91431|2) - should be in column 2 due to it being a completely different sound to 01:30:947 (90947|3,91109|3) - and thus deserving it's own hand to play it on

01:31:754 (91754|3,91915|1) - 1|3

01:32:560 (92560|1,92721|1) - two different pitches

01:34:173 (94173|0,94334|1) - descending?

01:38:850 (98850|0,99012|1,99173|3) - 4|1|3

01:40:141 (100141|3,100302|2) - ascending?

01:42:076 (102076|2,102238|1) - 1|4

01:42:883 (102883|2,102963|1,103044|2,103125|1) - make these mini LNs to represent the sudden change in pace

01:44:899 (104899|1) - 01:44:926 - instead? considering the rest of this song's fills seem to be in 1/12

01:45:463 (105463|0,105463|3,105625|1,105786|2,105786|0) - ctrl-H

01:46:109 (106109|3) - move to 3 i don't think the sound it produces has a place in the 4th slot and feels more comfortable sitting in 3rd

01:47:480 (107480|0) - another possible 1/12 note

01:47:641 - sound here that i guess you chose to ignore, maybe make a mini LN to represent it's there without adding unnecessary complexity

01:48:044 (108044|2,108205|3) - i feel the difference in pitch between these two notes is great enough where 01:48:044 (108044|2) - can be in column 1

01:50:060 (110060|2) - 1/12

01:51:754 (111754|0) - move to column 2 as the music suggests it doesn't fit in line with any of the other notes that came beforehand
01:51:915 (111915|1) - move that to 1 if you wish it's up to you considering this last change

01:52:641 (112641|1) - 1/12 etc

01:53:205 (113205|3,113259|2,113313|1,113367|0,113420|3,113474|2) - not sure if you can get away with the sounds for this, only really 01:53:367 (113367|0,113420|3,113474|2) - is audible and that's barely audible

01:54:334 (114334|2) - should that be a double? feels strong

01:54:818 (114818|1) - move to 3?

01:55:221 (115221|2) - more 1/12

01:57:480 - ignored sound

01:57:802 (117802|2) - 1/12

01:58:850 (118850|3,119012|0) - swap these around

01:59:980 (119980|3) - move to 3

02:00:383 (120383|1) - 1/12

02:26:431 (146431|1,146592|0) - swap these two around?

02:27:560 (147560|3) - 1 and 02:27:721 (147721|0) - 3

02:29:012 (149012|1,149173|0) - swap these two around

check through the rest of those LNs yourself they give me a headache

02:45:705 - sound

02:49:496 (169496|2,169576|0) - feels like it deserves more than just single notes, maybe a double jack on [12]

02:51:324 (171324|1,171377|2,171431|3) - descending?

02:54:818 (174818|1) - move to 3 it just looks a lot better

02:56:028 - sound

03:05:463 (185463|2,185463|1,185463|0) - just put like lns of different length here

03:06:109 (186109|1,186270|1,186431|1) - not sure how i feel about this being on the same hand as the LN

03:08:931 (188931|2) - ayyy you mapped it :clap:

03:11:915 (191915|0,192036|1) - interesting design change halfway through

03:13:850 (193850|1,194012|1,194173|1) - again with the triples

03:16:431 (196431|0,196592|0,196754|0) - what is with these

hurrr durrr map the ending as well hurrrr

half of this mod is just missing repeating stuff btw definitely in the second half so just check through it (and feel free to just ignore the suggested changes weeee)

good luck owo)bbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
Topic Starter
Xinnoh
woops i forgot there was a mod here

Hydria wrote:

hurrr durrr map the intro hurrrrrrrrrrr hey look im everyone else

dont look at this mod im prob just rambling on

Insane
01:26:109 (86109|0,86270|1) - shouldn't they be descending due to PR yup

01:28:528 (88528|0) - should that be on 4 and then 01:28:689 (88689|2,88850|3) - moved one to the left? prefer the 3/4 2/1 pattern

01:29:980 (89980|0) - move to 4 and maybe move 01:29:818 (89818|2) - to 2 or even 1 prefer pattern as is

01:30:463 (90463|0,90625|2,90786|1) - 4|1|2 avoiding jack on lane 4, reserved for highlights

I feel like 01:31:270 (91270|2,91431|2) - should be in column 2 due to it being a completely different sound to 01:30:947 (90947|3,91109|3) - and thus deserving it's own hand to play it on I'm using the jack here to evoke a sense that it's completely different to the previous patterns, if it was on a different lane it would play normally

01:31:754 (91754|3,91915|1) - 1|3 only using jacks on important sounds

01:32:560 (92560|1,92721|1) - two different pitches sounds are both snares and really unique compared to rest of the song

01:34:173 (94173|0,94334|1) - descending? I would but that would just be a 4,3,2,1 which isn't too appropriate for the diff

01:38:850 (98850|0,99012|1,99173|3) - 4|1|3

01:40:141 (100141|3,100302|2) - ascending? changed pattern

01:42:076 (102076|2,102238|1) - 1|4 again, no jacks unless needed

01:42:883 (102883|2,102963|1,103044|2,103125|1) - make these mini LNs to represent the sudden change in pace too technical xP the trill is already unique

01:44:899 (104899|1) - 01:44:926 - instead? considering the rest of this song's fills seem to be in 1/12 1/8 snap otherwise it's way too technical

01:45:463 (105463|0,105463|3,105625|1,105786|2,105786|0) - ctrl-H would have a 1/4 trill on 3|4 that's too long

01:46:109 (106109|3) - move to 3 i don't think the sound it produces has a place in the 4th slot and feels more comfortable sitting in 3rd ok

01:47:480 (107480|0) - another possible 1/12 note nop

01:47:641 - sound here that i guess you chose to ignore, maybe make a mini LN to represent it's there without adding unnecessary complexity You can hear the crackle of the stone or whatever it is a lot through the set, I chose not to follow it or it started mis-representing what I wanted to follow in the music.

01:48:044 (108044|2,108205|3) - i feel the difference in pitch between these two notes is great enough where 01:48:044 (108044|2) - can be in column 1 yup, moved

01:50:060 (110060|2) - 1/12 etc

01:51:754 (111754|0) - move to column 2 as the music suggests it doesn't fit in line with any of the other notes that came beforehand it's more I'm just limited on space here, this is the best option to keep playability
01:51:915 (111915|1) - move that to 1 if you wish it's up to you considering this last change

01:52:641 (112641|1) - 1/12 etc

01:53:205 (113205|3,113259|2,113313|1,113367|0,113420|3,113474|2) - not sure if you can get away with the sounds for this, only really 01:53:367 (113367|0,113420|3,113474|2) - is audible and that's barely audible this is correctly mapped for a wub sound like this, I referenced a couple other ranked tech maps when trying to find how to do this

01:54:334 (114334|2) - should that be a double? feels strong same as 01:44:012 (104012|1) -

01:54:818 (114818|1) - move to 3?

01:55:221 (115221|2) - more 1/12

01:57:480 - ignored sound too technical if I mapped it

01:57:802 (117802|2) - 1/12

01:58:850 (118850|3,119012|0) - swap these around ok

01:59:980 (119980|3) - move to 3 made a jack instead

02:00:383 (120383|1) - 1/12

02:26:431 (146431|1,146592|0) - swap these two around? lane 2 too empty for me

02:27:560 (147560|3) - 1 and 02:27:721 (147721|0) - 3 swapping from 4 to 1 also provides emphasis, doesn't need to be 100% pitch related

02:29:012 (149012|1,149173|0) - swap these two around same

check through the rest of those LNs yourself they give me a headache

02:45:705 - sound not mapping it

02:49:496 (169496|2,169576|0) - feels like it deserves more than just single notes, maybe a double jack on [12] yes but I need consistency with the next kiai + becomes unplayable

02:51:324 (171324|1,171377|2,171431|3) - descending?

02:54:818 (174818|1) - move to 3 it just looks a lot better ok

02:56:028 - sound same

03:05:463 (185463|2,185463|1,185463|0) - just put like lns of different length here I prefer not having anything for the pause

03:06:109 (186109|1,186270|1,186431|1) - not sure how i feel about this being on the same hand as the LN good point, swaped

03:08:931 (188931|2) - ayyy you mapped it :clap: it's only on that sound, consistent with other kiais

03:11:915 (191915|0,192036|1) - interesting design change halfway through had to compromise, would prefer notes but swapped to LN because there's no space with the mega LNs

03:13:850 (193850|1,194012|1,194173|1) - again with the triples

03:16:431 (196431|0,196592|0,196754|0) - what is with these

hurrr durrr map the ending as well hurrrr

half of this mod is just missing repeating stuff btw definitely in the second half so just check through it (and feel free to just ignore the suggested changes weeee) didn't bother replying to some of the repeated points, just the same as before on whether I fixed or not

good luck owo)bbbbbbbbbbbbbbb thanks for modding!
Garalulu
hola

[Easy]
  1. 01:38:044 - 01:43:205 - has big gap with normal, there is only 1/1 LNs here but 1/2 LN with 1/4 rice at normal. you can add some notes for drum yeah
  2. 01:42:560 - missing W
  3. 01:45:786 - if you wanna make this single, you should change 01:50:947 - cause it's same thing actually.
    01:48:367 - has sound effect so double is fine tho. but 01:53:528 - is same thing so you can add one note here too.
  4. 02:39:980 - missing W
[Normal]
  1. 01:37:238 - should be double like 01:31:592 - 01:32:238 -
  2. 01:39:818 (99818|3) - wrong hitsound, should be deleted
  3. 01:41:270 - 01:41:915 - the snap is weird. 1/8 snap at Normal, 1/8 LN + 1/12 rice at Hard, 1/12 LN and rice at Insane. for simplicity, using only 1/12 is good method tho
[Hard]
  1. 02:27:076 (147076|0) - if you wanna make this LN, you should change some notes too cause there is the bass line.
    02:25:302 (145302|2) - 02:26:431 (146431|0) - 02:28:528 (148528|0) - etc
  2. 02:29:334 (149334|0) - rather than focusing this sound, I suggest to make this structure as above you express. melody line + bass line.
  3. 02:48:367 - missing C
  4. 02:49:496 - missing W
  5. 02:49:576 - missing W
  6. 02:49:657 - only hard has W sound, should be removed
  7. 02:51:592 - missing W
  8. 02:57:399 - missing C
  9. 02:59:980 - only hard has W sound, should be removed
  10. 03:15:463 - there are same sound as 02:54:818 - etc, but they don't have any hitsound so you should remove this
  11. 03:20:625 - only hard has C sound, should be removed
[Insane]
  1. 01:26:431 - missing W
  2. 01:37:883 - missing W
  3. 01:41:592 - 01:41:754 - Note snap is 1/16 but SV snap is 1/12, seems weird.
  4. 01:43:205 - missing W
  5. 01:53:205 - missing W
  6. 02:03:850 - missing W
  7. 02:24:496 - add C
  8. 02:44:872 (164872|1) - different snap with hard, 1/16 snap is better tho
  9. 02:45:786 - C/W, not C/C
  10. 03:05:463 - 03:05:786 - 2.0x × 1 + 0.1x × 3 + 0.3x × 1 + 0.5x × 1 + 1.0x × 1 + 4.93x × 1 = 9.03x, 13% faster than normal speed. reduce the last sv can resolve this problem, just 4.93x -> 3.90x. It makes this part 8.00x, same as 1.0x
  11. 03:09:012 - missing W
Topic Starter
Xinnoh
No response = fix

Garalulu wrote:

hola

[Easy]
  1. 01:38:044 - 01:43:205 - has big gap with normal, there is only 1/1 LNs here but 1/2 LN with 1/4 rice at normal. you can add some notes for drum yeah
  2. 01:42:560 - missing W uh W should be deleted on normal
  3. 01:45:786 - if you wanna make this single, you should change 01:50:947 - cause it's same thing actually.
    01:48:367 - has sound effect so double is fine tho. but 01:53:528 - is same thing so you can add one note here too.
  4. 02:39:980 - missing W It's a pretty different sound, no W needed
[Normal]
  1. 01:37:238 - should be double like 01:31:592 - 01:32:238 -
  2. 01:39:818 (99818|3) - wrong hitsound, should be deleted
  3. 01:41:270 - 01:41:915 - the snap is weird. 1/8 snap at Normal, 1/8 LN + 1/12 rice at Hard, 1/12 LN and rice at Insane. for simplicity, using only 1/12 is good method tho There's 4 sounds, but it starts on the 1/8 .-. I used 1/12 snap since it's the only snap that can do 4 notes here. For normal I did 1/8 since that's more accurate to the sound. + This is really a 1/4 due to bpm
[Hard]
  1. 02:27:076 (147076|0) - if you wanna make this LN, you should change some notes too cause there is the bass line.
    02:25:302 (145302|2) - 02:26:431 (146431|0) - 02:28:528 (148528|0) - etc removed the LNs
  2. 02:29:334 (149334|0) - rather than focusing this sound, I suggest to make this structure as above you express. melody line + bass line. didn't apply above
  3. 02:48:367 - missing C
  4. 02:49:496 - missing W
  5. 02:49:576 - missing W
  6. 02:49:657 - only hard has W sound, should be removed
  7. 02:51:592 - missing W
  8. 02:57:399 - missing C
  9. 02:59:980 - only hard has W sound, should be removed
  10. 03:15:463 - there are same sound as 02:54:818 - etc, but they don't have any hitsound so you should remove this
  11. 03:20:625 - only hard has C sound, should be removed
[Insane]
  1. 01:26:431 - missing W
  2. 01:37:883 - missing W
  3. 01:41:592 - 01:41:754 - Note snap is 1/16 but SV snap is 1/12, seems weird. Changed snapping, I now think this is 1/12
  4. 01:43:205 - missing W
  5. 01:53:205 - missing W
  6. 02:03:850 - missing W
  7. 02:24:496 - add C
  8. 02:44:872 (164872|1) - different snap with hard, 1/16 snap is better tho
  9. 02:45:786 - C/W, not C/C
  10. 03:05:463 - 03:05:786 - 2.0x × 1 + 0.1x × 3 + 0.3x × 1 + 0.5x × 1 + 1.0x × 1 + 4.93x × 1 = 9.03x, 13% faster than normal speed. reduce the last sv can resolve this problem, just 4.93x -> 3.90x. It makes this part 8.00x, same as 1.0x
  11. 03:09:012 - missing W
Thank you for modding~
also there's a small messup at 02:39:980 (159980|1) - for SV, not sure why it reset to zero, will fix that later today
fixed
Garalulu
[General]
  1. 01:41:270 - 01:41:592 - yeah hard has 1/8 LN but Insane has 1/6, I think there is no reason they should be different length. To make both 1/6 LN is better tho
  2. 02:39:980 - Insane has Drum-Whistle and Soft-Clap2, but Hard/Normal have Soft W2/C2. (Easy has Soft-Clap2 only)
  3. 02:42:560 - similar issue with above, hitsound inconsistency.
[Easy]
  1. 01:39:657 - add W
  2. 01:58:689 - add W
[Normal]
  1. 01:47:560 - add W
  2. 01:51:915 - add W

maybe more hitsound issue, plz check it
Topic Starter
Xinnoh
fixed all and did a recheck on hs

Changed diff names to lowercase, but they auto-capitalise if I save since they're the same as defaults.
Garalulu
Good luck!
Topic Starter
Xinnoh
owo

ty very much

wait i messed up an sv one sec, I thought I fixed 02:39:980 (159980|1) - but I didn't
that's fixed
shouldn't need rebub since it's not an unrankable

ya i changed my mind, felt recheck was needed since it's a fairly unusual part
Garalulu
:blobreach:
sinnoh wants it
Weber
minor hand balance fixes, go
SpectorDG
qualify post have a Earned kudos hmm
FAMoss
umm where's soft-hitwnormal.wav ?
Toaph Daddy
Heyyooooo, I'll make a post here because I told myself I'd do it on every qualified map if necessary.

There are some small things that are iffy imo about the map like the SV thing right around 02:34:657 and some minor consistency issues - but it's not too important to be completely honest.

Nice map! Is really fun, and the SVs are used pretty nicely for the most part. Congratz!
Protastic101
By request
Topic Starter
Xinnoh

SpectorDG wrote:

qualify post have a Earned kudos hmm
he modded in irc before qual

FAMoss wrote:

umm where's soft-hitwnormal.wav ?
ya fixed, sounds much better

TheToaphster wrote:

Heyyooooo, I'll make a post here because I told myself I'd do it on every qualified map if necessary.

There are some small things that are iffy imo about the map like the SV thing right around 02:34:657 There's a high pitch sound on 02:34:496 (154496|3) - ,
slightly accelerating into 02:34:657 (154657|2) - fits it best.
and some minor consistency issues - but it's not too important to be completely honest.

Nice map! Is really fun, and the SVs are used pretty nicely for the most part. Congratz!
I changed some of the triples on insane in both start and kiai.
will update
Topic Starter
Xinnoh
updated for real this time, I think hitsounds are fine now after hitnormal has been added
FAMoss
dont kudosu
i just checked, and the hitnormal looks good^

[insane]
  1. 01:24:334 (84334|2) - 01:29:496 (89496|3) - 01:31:431 (91431|2) - why do you use drum samples here, and why not use from custom samples only? like W | maybe for the above is also like this too


  2. 02:03:850 (123850|3) - ups. you are using a normal sample here, better to change it to auto


  3. 02:40:625 (160625|2,160625|1,160947|2,160947|3) -
    uhh, why you put two samples on 1 note, but it can be applied to 2 notes, and here too 02:41:915 (161915|1,161915|2,162238|2,162238|3) -


  4. 02:49:657 (169657|1) - ups. you are using a normal sample here, better to change it to auto

  5. 02:54:818 (174818|0,174818|1) - same above ^ why you put normal sample? but it can be used to auto

  6. 02:59:980 (179980|2) - change normal > auto

  7. 03:05:141 (185141|1,185141|2) - change normal > auto

  8. 03:05:463 (185463|1,185463|2) - change normal > auto

  9. 03:10:302 (190302|3) - change normal > auto

  10. 03:15:463 (195463|2) - change normal > auto

  11. 03:20:625 (200625|2,200625|0) - change normal > auto

  12. 03:25:786 (205786|2,205786|3) - change normal > auto

  13. 03:26:431 - how about to add 1 F on col 4, to the end? to make it better ^
Topic Starter
Xinnoh

FAMoss wrote:

dont kudosu
i just checked, and the hitnormal looks good^

[insane]
  1. 01:24:334 (84334|2) - 01:29:496 (89496|3) - 01:31:431 (91431|2) - why do you use drum samples here, and why not use from custom samples only? like W | maybe for the above is also like this too I'm using the default drum hitnormal, That's how you do it in standard/ctb, they work fine for mania.


  2. 02:03:850 (123850|3) - ups. you are using a normal sample here, better to change it to auto fixed


  3. 02:40:625 (160625|2,160625|1,160947|2,160947|3) -
    uhh, why you put two samples on 1 note, but it can be applied to 2 notes, and here too 02:41:915 (161915|1,161915|2,162238|2,162238|3) - I wanted to still hear the soft-hitnormal, only hearing it half the time would be weird, so better to move these hitsounds over to the same note.


  4. 02:49:657 (169657|1) - ups. you are using a normal sample here, better to change it to auto All of these are intentionally using osu's default normal-hitnormal.

  5. 03:26:431 - how about to add 1 F on col 4, to the end? to make it better ^ It's out of place with the second half
Updated, thanks for the mod!
Weber

Weber wrote:

6 months ago
wow that was fast
Garalulu
tada
Feerum
Hey Sinnoh.
I got an Error reported in PM which need's to get fixed.

easy and hard have no epilepsy warning enabled while normal and insane have. Since all difficulties have an pretty similar SB you should enable it in these diffs too.

Call me back as soon it's enabled!
Weber
I’m pissed
Topic Starter
Xinnoh
I'm sinnoh
Arzenvald
i'm your daddy
Garalulu
:< :<
Feerum
Epilepsy warning got fixed.
Here's your heart back.
Raiden
as req
Topic Starter
Xinnoh
hard was named Hard for some reason
Raiden
back


(fixed capitalization of diff names and osb file)
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