Outsider - Like A Man

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After researching I finally found the official CD cover. The song is 05. on this tracklist.



So, metadata is going to be:
Title: 남자답게
Romanised Title: Like A Man
According to both sources, artist can be kept how it is (Outsider).
Add Soliloquist to tags as it's the album name.

23:21 Voli: hey, do you need another bn for your map?
23:21 Voli: still
23:21 Voli: i wouldnt mind pushing it /w you
23:23 IceBeam: hey! well, I actually thought u won't come back to re-check it, but if u want/can qualify it then go ahead~
23:24 Voli: yea i was kinda limited with time
23:24 Voli: alright
23:24 Voli: you wanna irc a bit then?
23:24 IceBeam: okay no prob, just didn't really want to bother u much
23:24 IceBeam: uh I actually was about to sleep xD got something more to point out?
23:24 Voli: na its fine
23:25 Voli: hmm
23:25 Voli: well one thing is that your combos get so high in the map
23:25 Voli: sometimes you nc every 2 measures and sometimes 1
23:25 Voli: wouldnt you wanna cut combos like this into 2
23:25 Voli: 00:13:087 (17) -
23:28 IceBeam: they're usually at 2 measures but I cut to 1 in stream moments or some where 1 seems more suitable. if long combos are rankabnle then I'd like to leave it as it is cause it's the way I did them my whole mapping carreer. sorta old-schoolish thing
23:29 Voli: hmm
23:29 Voli: yea i understand
23:29 Voli: well the only thing in the RC is
23:29 Voli: Ensure that your combos are not unreasonably short or long. Combos should reflect patterns expressed in the song, such as bars of music or vocal/instrumental phrases.
23:30 Voli: and i dont think your map necessarily breaks that
23:31 Voli: 00:34:421 (8) - move this one a bit closer to 00:33:921 (7) - maybe?
23:31 Voli: so the strong vocal at 00:34:754 (1) - stands out more
23:31 IceBeam: well it's how I feel it with nc
23:31 IceBeam: for example
23:31 IceBeam: 00:02:754 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) -
23:31 IceBeam: I feel like these whole 2 measures make a rhytm
23:31 IceBeam: which repeats in another 2 measures
23:31 Voli: yeah i think it's fine
23:31 IceBeam: and etc
23:32 Voli: it was just a thought
23:32 IceBeam: so breaking it would be unnatural for me
23:33 IceBeam: okay moved to 36 120
23:33 Voli: alright
23:33 Voli: 00:09:087 (6) -
23:33 Voli: consider [https://voli.s-ul.eu/xNUxnexn.png this] rhythm?
23:34 Voli: you usually have these sounds on a note 00:09:421 -
23:36 IceBeam: tried that but would like to leave mine
23:36 Voli: okay
23:36 Voli: 01:09:921 (4) - shouldnt that be a triple for the vocals?
23:38 IceBeam: well about that I use the same rhytm in all the chorus parts so changing anything would break whole consistency
23:38 Voli: ah yeah
23:38 Voli: i noticed now
23:38 Voli: you skip those vocals everytime
23:38 Voli: mm okay
23:39 Voli: lemme check quickly through the other diffs
23:39 IceBeam: alright
23:41 Voli: countdown on normal is inconsistent
23:41 Voli: normal has it off and the rest has it on
23:41 Voli: same with widescreen support
23:42 Voli: could you make them consistent across the diffs?
23:43 Voli: i think the title should be 남자답게 too
23:43 IceBeam: oh my bad, sure
23:43 Voli: and romanised ''like a man''
23:44 Voli: im not sure if Outsider is a romanised version of his artist name
23:44 IceBeam: hmm not sure, it's a track from rhytm game Pump it Up, and there it's written exacly like this. We checked everything in official sources
23:45 Voli: do you have a metadata source i can check :o
23:45 Voli: i gotta be sure otherwise i'll get fired from bn ;(
23:45 Voli: looljk
23:45 Voli: maybe
23:45 IceBeam: yeah there're lots of link in the thread, let me find it
23:47 IceBeam: list of songs in the game: http://www.piugame.com/piu.prime/piu.my ... =FIESTA_EX
23:47 IceBeam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl3nQB3 ... e=youtu.be
23:47 IceBeam: and this song exacly in game, a video
23:48 Voli: hmm
23:48 IceBeam: so if we take PiU as a Source I guess we gotta use this meta
23:48 Voli: lemme see
23:48 Voli: i just bubbled another map from that game
23:49 *Voli is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1360693 Louis - Chung Hwa Ban Jeom [Another]]
23:49 Voli: pandahero does have the hangul name as title though
23:51 IceBeam: perhaps in that map
23:51 IceBeam: I mean track*
23:51 IceBeam: but here I found a video from PiU version
23:51 IceBeam: u see it when u play this track on PiU
23:51 Voli: ah?
23:51 IceBeam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kp9NN8H8jE
23:51 Voli: is that version different
23:51 Voli: from the original song?
23:51 IceBeam: in the video it's also romanized
23:51 Voli: Music
23:52 Voli: "남자답게" by Outsider ()
23:52 Voli: https://hulkpop.com/album-outsider-vol-1-soliloquist/
23:52 Voli: thats the album the song is from
23:53 Voli: its 05.
23:54 IceBeam: uhh I don't know if they're different.. I mean if I took it separetely from artist's album - then I should have used korean name, but if I use a rhytm game I saw it and there it's romanized - then I should this name
23:54 IceBeam: that's really complicated lol

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@ Voli

- fixed title in all difs
- added album name to tags in all diffs
- applied those changes we disscussed yesterday on normal and freestyle
Grats on first qualified map in 5 years :D
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thanks for help everyone~

welcome to 2012, osu peeps
Gratzu, Beam and Panda!!!
Yay \o/
Yes! Many congratulations IceBeam~ (and Reiji-RJ + PandaHero as well!)

btw @Reiji : In case you're reading this the supporter tag that you received earlier was actually from me hehe - no particular reason or else really, I was just looking at my friend list back then to check whether there are still many active mappers from the past days and I'm simply feeling like giving it to someone at random :3
holy shit the nostalgia

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Natteke desu
Absolutely amazing.
I love this
ничего себе, я думал все уже умерли
I think the unicode artist should better be 아웃사이더, as that's the formal name he uses. Outsider is just about representing it in original English. Even though most Korean artists don't mind using them just in English for foreigners, it's still not the exact one they would use to identify themselves. http://assacomz.com/artist/outsider/ https://www.facebook.com/offic.outsider
oh lol ;w;
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@ Doyak, Voli found out his korean release cd cover I guess and he uses english Outsider name there. I'm sure it's unnecessary to add anything else.

Voli wrote:

After researching I finally found the official CD cover. The song is 05. on this tracklist.


That doesn't mean much to be honest... many Japanese artists also have their romanised name on the CD cover but that doesn't mean they want their name to be written like that formally? Also 아웃사이더 literally is pronunciation of Outsider so it's nothing strange to have it on a CD.

Also if you think you can rely on that CD, it shows outsider (all lowercase) and I guess you don't want to follow it.
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