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Matsushita&yuikonnu - LOVE x LOVE Whistle [Taiko]

posted 2017-09-08T18:04:50+00:00

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DarkVortex

Joined September 2012

DarkVortex 2017-10-19T18:15:44+00:00

Karee Pan wrote:
From my queue, a bit late sorry.

[Futsuu]

General : Very tough. Sorry if I'm making too drastic cuts. Just consider them as suggestions to think about
Similar to Kantan the bpm chanches in the map and the inability to quicky catch onto the new rythm is very hard. I think you should seriously consider making the beginning of these sections less intense to give the player time get into the new bpm.

01:06:285 (5,9) - These could go to ease this. Done
01:57:784 (7,9,14) - These as well. Done

01:07:951 (11,12) - This is very hard for Futsuu. We've just switched to a new bpm and getting used to it so picking up a pattern with no downbeat seems tough. Imo the break before makes up for it. I'll keep it for now
01:31:284 (86,104) - Very intense section for Futsuu, you could consider deleting a few of these upbeat notes for a bit of a breather. That section is not very long and also quite repetitive plus it has 3/2 breaks. Even though it increases SR by some fairly high amount I think it's easy enough for a futsuu.
02:08:284 (43) - d to emphasize the next note pitch rise Done
02:13:034 - Seems too intense for Futsuu at 240bpm, we should find something to delete. For example 02:13:784 (61,65) could go. Done
02:23:412 (93) This note seems unnecessary and again would help with the tempo change transition. I think it's boring just to have a d d k k d d k k d 1/1 patterning :/
02:25:746 (101) - Again kind of rough, I would rather just have this as d at 02:25:579. The current pattern is fitting really well to what it's in the music. Keeping it for now

Fun map!

Fun song, good luck!

Thanks for modding!

Protonori

140 posts

Joined February 2015

Protonori 2017-10-21T04:38:32+00:00

From my modding queue~
Remember that these are suggestions. Feel free to ignore them.

[Vortex' Futsuu]
00:15:065 (38) - Switch to k?
00:35:877 (94) - Change to d? The pitch is different than 00:35:315 (92).
00:43:940 (120) - Finisher, like you did at 00:37:940 (101)?
00:56:315 (158) - ^
01:08:618 (14) - d, to emphasize the higher vocals at 01:08:785?
01:09:951 (19) - ^
01:29:118 (78) - Finisher? You mapped the cymbal at 01:34:451 with a finisher.

[Criss' Muzukashii]
00:06:346 (30) - Delete? I don't think a triple is necessary here.
00:24:440 - This section feels strange to me. The song is using doubles, so I don't think you should use triples here.

00:24:440 - You should add some breaks in this section. (Even the Oni uses 1/1 breaks at this part). I'd suggest:
00:43:658 (90,91) - Delete.
00:56:127 (165) - ^
00:56:127 (165) - ^

01:03:785 - Sorry if I'm mentioning this too much. You should add breaks here in some way. I know this is a guest diff, but even the Oni uses 1/1 breaks here.
02:03:034 (31) - Remove finisher, since you didn't use one at 02:11:034?
02:56:912 (190) - Remove finisher? You didn't use one at 02:54:245.

[Inner Oni]
I think there's too much 1/6 compared to the Oni (in the beginning, at least). I'd suggest:
00:01:065 (8) - Deleting notes like this, so the note density isn't as extreme.
But if you think it's fine, it's probably not an issue.

00:07:377 - The length of 1/6 here seems a bit extreme. It's playable, of course, but consider doing something similar to 00:13:377.
00:36:158 (277,278) - Switch these, since you used d at 00:30:252?
01:24:617 (154) - Use k like you did at 01:25:950? The pitch sounds the same to me.

Good luck with ranking this!

Crissa

849 posts

Joined December 2014

Crissa 2017-10-21T04:50:54+00:00

Faputa wrote:
o/
M4M

[Criss' Muzukashii]
⏩00:08:690 (53,54) - these are off the same pitch, consider rethink the pattern here.
⏩00:13:940 (23) - Without this finisher but the previous ones do seems weird to me. You may want to finisher this as well. made them consistent
⏩00:20:690 (10) - This filler seems unnecessary, should probably leave this blank. fixed
⏩00:41:127 (74) - Maybe change this to k? For the pitch rise. i don't think that pitch is enough to put a k, i like how it is rn
⏩00:54:815 (156,157) - Change to k k? d d d seems dull and these can definitely be nicer if they are k k I think. yeah, fixed
⏩01:07:785 (229,230,231,232,233,234,235,236) - ddkdkkdk? I think it should work better in terms of representing the music. fixed
⏩01:09:118 (237,238,239,240,241,242,243,244) - Same thing applies, but you can make it more fun by adding variations like kddk to replace kkkk for example. same
⏩Before 01:39:284 (409) - I think these patterns are too repeatitive, that may bore the players. did some stuff here
⏩01:44:951 (440,441) - I think you can change this to d K to emphasize the K better. fixed
⏩02:15:034 (90) - Cancel this finisher? You don’t have it at 02:19:034 (109) - . i do have it now:p
⏩03:07:745 (245) - Why two finishers here? You don’t have it at 03:05:079 (232) - . my bad, didn't noticed, fixed

Sorry for late reply, internet issues:/
Thanks for the mod~

Karee Pan wrote:
From my queue, a bit late sorry.

[Muzukashii]

General : Note placement is good, map is just too intense with too few breaks. I will just give a few examples, feel free to choose how you do it though. I just feel you have to add some breaks in almost every section.
SPOILER
00:24:440 - Note density too high here onwards, you should consider deleting a few to fit in atleast some 1/1 breaks. For example these i like those triples so gonna keep them but added breaks between those
00:25:752 (35,45) etc, or 00:25:377 (32,33,42,43) - etc.
00:37:940 - Same as ^ Would find something to axe for 1/1 breaks. For example 00:39:252 (63,72) - etc.
01:08:951 (236,244) - More examples for possible deletes
01:17:284 (279,280,282, 289) - ^
01:24:951 (330,339) - ^

01:57:659 (4,9) - Same as in Kantan and Futsuu, deleting these helps a lot with the transition to the new tempo. yeah, deleted notes on quads
01:29:618 (352) - It's so different from the rest of the song we could just delete these triplets to make this section a bit more unique. i was a bit insecure about putting doubles but i think i can do something here
01:34:368 (380) 01:39:701 (411) - Would delete to allow Finisher in the next note. Seems good

Fun song, good luck!

Thank you for modding~

Protonori wrote:
From my modding queue~
Remember that these are suggestions. Feel free to ignore them.

[Criss' Muzukashii]
00:06:346 (30) - Delete? I don't think a triple is necessary here. but i like it:(
00:24:440 - This section feels strange to me. The song is using doubles, so I don't think you should use triples here. yyyeah, i get your point,
but i don't think it's wrong the way i mapped it, i'm also following a base rhythm instead of that doubles sound, i'll keep this in mind for future mods tho

00:24:440 - You should add some breaks in this section. (Even the Oni uses 1/1 breaks at this part). I'd suggest:
00:43:658 (90,91) - Delete.
00:56:127 (165) - ^
00:56:127 (165) - ^

checked all of these

01:03:785 - Sorry if I'm mentioning this too much. You should add breaks here in some way. I know this is a guest diff, but even the Oni uses 1/1 breaks here.
02:03:034 (31) - Remove finisher, since you didn't use one at 02:11:034? i think it's fine, last part of the section is different from before so i think it's k
02:56:912 (190) - Remove finisher? You didn't use one at 02:54:245. now i do:p

Good luck with ranking this!

Thank you for modding~

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m421

102 posts

Joined June 2014

m421 2017-10-21T05:53:55+00:00

NM.

[Inner Oni]
00:13:565:, 00:10:565 - why isn't this kdddddkdddddkdddddk ?

At least to 00:15:065: , I think that this map is taking the drums actively.
So, if you don't take the drums from here onwards, it'll not be consistent.

from 00:24:440: ,
there is drum's pattern that
d_d_k_dk_d_dk_kk
d_d_k_dk_dd_k_kk
d_d_k_dk_d_dk_kk
d_d_k_dk_ddkdkdd

d_d_k_dk_d_dk_kk
d_d_k_dk_dd_k_kk
d_d_k_dk_d_dk_kk
d_d_k_kd_kk_kk__ (1/4)
At least, take striking kat surely.

00:37:377 - k

from 00:37:940 - as well as above.

01:28:784 (178,179,180) - reverse.
01:30:118 - d and 01:30:284 (185) - k
01:31:617 (193,194) - reverse.
in below, same as above

from 01:39:784 - take k.
from 01:57:034 - as well.

02:16:534 (202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212) - kdkdkdk.k.d.d.k (1/6+1/4) ?
02:20:534 (239,240,241,242,243,244,245,246,247) - I think this is 1/3.

02:31:801 - add d

02:42:495 (160) -
02:42:744 (163) - missing from snap
do snap spread -> 1/12
timing -> re-snap all notes

from 02:32:912 - take k.

02:56:412 - add kk(1/4)

03:10:023 (362,363) - kk(1/3) : I think only d rhythm is not very interesting. It triggers boredom of players.
in below, same as above

Below Oni, I omit because it's just a similar point.
good luck.

Ozu

644 posts

Joined July 2011

Ozu 2017-10-22T05:41:09+00:00

rew0825

1,290 posts

Joined March 2013

rew0825 2017-10-29T07:40:42+00:00

Hello from my modding!

Oni

00:49:940 (297) - Add finish? Look it stead melody with vocal.
01:02:315 (382) - Add finish? The melody is long haul look good to add finish.
01:39:784 (198) - Add finish? Look it stead melody.
01:45:118 (235) - Add finish? Look it stead melody .
01:54:451 (1) - Same as 01:02:315 (382) -

Criss' Muzukashii

00:05:690 (26,28) - Ctrl+g? Look it follow a melody better.
00:08:502 (40,41) - Same as above ^.
00:11:877 (11) - Change to k? for some different part.
00:14:877 (26,27) - Change to k D? for follow a part before will use D all over.
00:23:877 to 00:36:440 - So long notes in Muzukashii when compare with Oni is have more break so I think It's overmap. Please remove some note for easier. I suggest 00:24:252 (25) - 00:25:752 (35) - 00:27:252 (45) - 00:28:752 (55) - 00:30:252 (10) - 00:31:752 (20) - 00:33:252 (30) - 00:34:752 (40) -
00:37:940 to 00:49:565 - Same as above ^.
00:49:940 (124) - Add finish? Look it stead melody with vocal.
00:50:315 to 01:01:940 - Same as 00:23:877 to 00:36:440
01:03:785 (199,200,201,202,203,204,205,206) - Remove this and change to spinner.
01:05:118 to 01:13:118 - Same as 00:23:877 to 00:36:440
01:15:784 to 01:20:451 - Same as above ^.
01:21:118 to 01:26:451 - Same as above ^.
02:32:912 to 02:37:579 - Same as above ^.
02:38:245 to 02:41:912 - Same as above ^.
02:43:579 to 02:48:245 - Same as above ^.
02:48:912 to 02:52:579 - Same as above ^.

Vortex' Futsuu

00:46:190 (126,127) - Ctrl+g? Look it look better and different with 00:40:190 (107,108,109) - .
00:58:565 (164,165) - Same as above ^.
01:02:315 - I think you can add note here for consistency with another diff.
02:15:784 (69,70) - Ctrl+g? Look it look better.

That's all from me. Hope it can help you. Good luck

Aisha

837 posts

Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

Aisha 2017-10-29T07:49:25+00:00

Protonori wrote:
[Inner Oni]
I think there's too much 1/6 compared to the Oni (in the beginning, at least). I'd suggest:
00:01:065 (8) - Deleting notes like this, so the note density isn't as extreme.
But if you think it's fine, it's probably not an issue.
as you said it's not a real issue considering it's the top diff so I'm gonna try to hold them :3
00:07:377 - The length of 1/6 here seems a bit extreme. It's playable, of course, but consider doing something similar to 00:13:377.
I made it
00:36:158 (277,278) - Switch these, since you used d at 00:30:252?
done
01:24:617 (154) - Use k like you did at 01:25:950? The pitch sounds the same to me.
but this 01:24:617 (154,155,156) - ddk emphasize nice last kat :p
Good luck with ranking this!

Thank you for the modd : ' )

maziari1105 wrote:
[Inner Oni]
00:13:565:, 00:10:565 - why isn't this kdddddkdddddkdddddk ?
Fixed above
At least to 00:15:065: , I think that this map is taking the drums actively.
So, if you don't take the drums from here onwards, it'll not be consistent.
true true
from 00:24:440: ,
there is drum's pattern that
d_d_k_dk_d_dk_kk
d_d_k_dk_dd_k_kk
d_d_k_dk_d_dk_kk
d_d_k_dk_ddkdkdd
d_d_k_dk_d_dk_kk
d_d_k_dk_dd_k_kk
d_d_k_dk_d_dk_kk
d_d_k_kd_kk_kk__ (1/4)
At least, take striking kat surely.
Well I reviewed the section having in consideration your comments but current x xx x structure is nice
00:37:377 - k
they're so similar so using same note is nice :3
from 00:37:940 - as well as above.

01:28:784 (178,179,180) - reverse.
01:30:118 - d and 01:30:284 (185) - k
01:31:617 (193,194) - reverse.
in below, same as above

from 01:39:784 - take k.
from 01:57:034 - as well.

02:16:534 (202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212) - kdkdkdk.k.d.d.k (1/6+1/4) ?
02:20:534 (239,240,241,242,243,244,245,246,247) - I think this is 1/3.

02:31:801 - add d

02:42:495 (160) -
02:42:744 (163) - missing from snap
do snap spread -> 1/12
timing -> re-snap all notes

from 02:32:912 - take k.

02:56:412 - add kk(1/4)

03:10:023 (362,363) - kk(1/3) : I think only d rhythm is not very interesting. It triggers boredom of players.
in below, same as above

Below Oni, I omit because it's just a similar point.
good luck.

404 AccNotFound wrote:

L O L

rew0825 wrote:
Oni
00:49:940 (297) - Add finish? Look it stead melody with vocal.
01:02:315 (382) - Add finish? The melody is long haul look good to add finish.
01:39:784 (198) - Add finish? Look it stead melody.
01:45:118 (235) - Add finish? Look it stead melody .
01:54:451 (1) - Same as 01:02:315 (382) -

That's all from me. Hope it can help you. Good luck

Last edited by [deleted user] , edited 4 times in total.

Fantazy

190 posts

Joined August 2015

Fantazy 2017-11-02T15:05:06+00:00

hihi!!!

[General]

01:57:034 - i think is not well of this sv? 01:55:784 - try this?

or start at x1.10 then +0.03
02:42:245 - the problem are the 3 notes

the inherited points' offest correct , need little adjust
01:28:451 - 02:58:912 - kiai time finish at these two part?or i feel its better to finish at these 01:26:451 - 02:54:245 -

[Inner Oni]

00:00:440 - about this part... how do u think of this pattern?
or
02:20:034 - as my feeling? kkd kdd ddkkddddk
02:43:579 - i think here need some different pattern? any 1 3 5?
02:47:662 - better to link here
03:04:412 - add a note here? k d ?
03:06:245 - ddkkkdkdk?

PP explosion?_?_?_?_?_?

Stefan

Global Moderator

10,393 posts

Joined January 2011

Stefan 2017-11-11T04:07:16+00:00

[General]
-) Preferably if you haven't looked around yet, a new background with a better quality could be used. Might look on my own for one.
-) 00:50:315 - since the 2/1 barline looks silly imo you could activate the Omit Bar line function to remove it.
-) 02:21:184 - 02:21:337 - 02:21:513 - 02:21:670 - 02:21:823 - 02:21:985 - Consider activating the function for these lines too, although they aren't significant for the gameplay.

[Inner Oni]
01:20:784 - I think you could still push it to 1.35x to improve the effect of the Sv increase.
02:37:912 - ^
02:48:579 - ^

01:56:784 (14,15,16,17) - you need to connect the circles more appropriately to the BPM change, starting from 01:57:034 (18) - , try this (or give a check at Fantazy's idea): https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/3hYup5nI.png https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/mbwTScv9.png

Thanks Taiko SR for the wrong calculations. lmao

[Oni]
01:47:118 (250) - Consider removal of the note to have a consistent break of the pattern chain like 01:44:451 - and 01:41:951 - .

[Muzukashii]
Guess something went wrong with the OD. Reduce it to 5~4.5, HP optionally to 5.5.
I strongly suggest to remove the SV increases, used from the higher difficulties. They won't work very well for the respective difficulty level class. Do only use them to adjust the BPM changes.

00:37:940 - 00:49:565 - The section lacks of actual emphasis. imo it doesn't really represent the section of the song so well and feels too random. The part between 00:37:940 - 00:40:940 - could be reworked like this: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/pXQXmiYe.png (that provides more breaks that gives room for more dedicated emphasis and simplifies the pattern chain that works well corresponding to Oni and Futsuu), or for 00:40:940 - 00:43:940 - : https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/jV1aLrRj.png (just some more breaks and color changes to emphasize stronger sounds such as vocals). Generally it is never bad to use (smaller) breaks, formed as 1/1, 2/1, 4/1 to create emphasis.

00:50:315 - 01:02:315 - same applies here, you may want to be consistent with the ideas.
01:05:285 (212) - coulda be removed so the combo chain isn't so long at all.
01:07:951 (230) - 01:08:951 (236) - 01:10:285 (244) - ^, consider the BPM changed drastically so having the same density and combo lenght isn't always good.
01:28:784 - 01:39:784 - this section may also be simplified since Oni and Inner Oni are kept pretty simple as well, comparing to Futsuu it also seems like a too big jump and less linear. Removing the triplets for the most part (or completely) should do a big part to make the difficulty curve more consistent.
02:08:534 (59) - instead of k k k you could use k d k to emphasize the drum hits more.

Generally the difficulty has some trouble to emphasize sufficient sounds and beats and feels dull to play. However, there is still enough room and time for improvement, don't take this too personal what I write.

[Futsuu]
00:09:065 - imo I find the break more appropriate at 00:09:815 - . Note at 00:09:815 - can be moved to 00:09:065 - instead.
00:37:940 - 00:40:940 - Might rework that part a bit since every 2nd 2/1 break is sorta weird and not necessary to have at all. https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/mgNKyTTx.png Try to repeat that.
01:05:118 - 01:10:118 - Personally I don't really like that part. Some oppoturnities getting lost and the rhythm is pretty odd to follow. https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/SXZkDcf3.png Highlighted notes are finishers.

[Kantan]
00:06:065 - What about a note here? as well for 00:09:065 - and 00:12:065 - . Probably too dull to only include 1/1 notes here.
00:27:065 - ^ as well for 00:30:065 - 00:33:065 - 00:36:065 - .

Aisha

837 posts

Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

Aisha 2017-11-29T07:00:51+00:00

Protonori wrote:
[Inner Oni]
I think there's too much 1/6 compared to the Oni (in the beginning, at least). I'd suggest:
00:01:065 (8) - Deleting notes like this, so the note density isn't as extreme.
But if you think it's fine, it's probably not an issue.
as you said it's not a real issue considering it's the top diff so I'm gonna try to hold them :3
00:07:377 - The length of 1/6 here seems a bit extreme. It's playable, of course, but consider doing something similar to 00:13:377.
I made it
00:36:158 (277,278) - Switch these, since you used d at 00:30:252?
done
01:24:617 (154) - Use k like you did at 01:25:950? The pitch sounds the same to me.
but this 01:24:617 (154,155,156) - ddk emphasize nice last kat :p
Good luck with ranking this!

Thank you for the modd : ' )

maziari1105 wrote:
[Inner Oni]
00:13:565:, 00:10:565 - why isn't this kdddddkdddddkdddddk ?
Fixed above
At least to 00:15:065: , I think that this map is taking the drums actively.
So, if you don't take the drums from here onwards, it'll not be consistent.
true true
from 00:24:440: ,
there is drum's pattern that
d_d_k_dk_d_dk_kk
d_d_k_dk_dd_k_kk
d_d_k_dk_d_dk_kk
d_d_k_dk_ddkdkdd
d_d_k_dk_d_dk_kk
d_d_k_dk_dd_k_kk
d_d_k_dk_d_dk_kk
d_d_k_kd_kk_kk__ (1/4)
At least, take striking kat surely.
~~Well I reviewed the section having in consideration your comments but current x xx x structure is nice~~ also I'm following the high sound cause it's louder than drum here
00:37:377 - k
they're so similar so using same note is nice :3
from 00:37:940 - as well as above.
same comment
01:28:784 (178,179,180) - reverse.
01:29:118 (180,181,184) - i think these three are good emphasized at kat usage; pitches are pretty similar also considering 01:29:701 (182,183) - is a good pattern to emphasize next kat I'm gonna hold it
01:30:118 - d and 01:30:284 (185) - k
following piano (if it's piano lmao) here
01:31:617 (193,194) - reverse.
same comment about pitches
in below, same as above
so i'm following vocals D:, also drum follow is connected with it
from 01:39:784 - take k.
from 01:57:034 - as well.
hmm im confused on this, they're both kat already mm
02:16:534 (202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212) - kdkdkdk.k.d.d.k (1/6+1/4) ?
mmm yeah it sounds better, anyways i will wait for another comment (made kdkdkdkdddk)
02:20:534 (239,240,241,242,243,244,245,246,247) - I think this is 1/3.
you're right, fixed lol
02:31:801 - add d
seems nice according to vocal
02:42:495 (160) -
02:42:744 (163) - missing from snap
do snap spread -> 1/12
timing -> re-snap all notes
oh god what happened here lol
from 02:32:912 - take k.
same comment as above
02:56:412 - add kk(1/4)
uh it would turn so overmapped according to vocals, enough with 02:56:579 (282,283) - connection
03:10:023 (362,363) - kk(1/3) : I think only d rhythm is not very interesting. It triggers boredom of players.
mmm gonna think about this, i like current don; i agree it's not the funniest pattern ever but somehow i like it and it's accurate
in below, same as above

Below Oni, I omit because it's just a similar point.
good luck.

Thank you for the mod and the star!~

404 AccNotFound wrote:

L O L

rew0825 wrote:
Oni
00:49:940 (297) - Add finish? Look it stead melody with vocal.
it seems so louder, let's save finish for 01:20:784 (96) -
01:02:315 (382) - Add finish? The melody is long haul look good to add finish.
same reason as above, i'm saving big notes for vocal/melody + hard drum
01:39:784 (198) - Add finish? Look it stead melody.
o yes almost consistency with 01:34:451 (172) -
01:45:118 (235) - Add finish? Look it stead melody .
but this isn't as strong as 01:45:118 (235) - for the hard drum background i'm following :c
01:54:451 (1) - Same as 01:02:315 (382) -
same reason :p
That's all from me. Hope it can help you. Good luck

Thank you for the mod! ~

Aisha

837 posts

Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

Aisha 2017-11-29T07:03:48+00:00

Fantazy wrote:
hihi!!!

[General]
01:57:034 - i think is not well of this sv? 01:55:784 - try this?

or start at x1.10 then +0.03
02:42:245 - the problem are the 3 notes

the inherited points' offest correct , need little adjust
01:28:451 - 02:58:912 - kiai time finish at these two part?or i feel its better to finish at these 01:26:451 - 02:54:245 -
[Inner Oni]
00:00:440 - about this part... how do u think of this pattern?
or
02:20:034 - as my feeling? kkd kdd ddkkddddk
02:43:579 - i think here need some different pattern? any 1 3 5?
02:47:662 - better to link here
03:04:412 - add a note here? k d ?
03:06:245 - ddkkkdkdk?

PP explosion?_?_?_?_?_?

Stefan wrote:
[General]
-) Preferably if you haven't looked around yet, a new background with a better quality could be used. Might look on my own for one.
-) 00:50:315 - since the 2/1 barline looks silly imo you could activate the Omit Bar line function to remove it.
-) 02:21:184 - 02:21:337 - 02:21:513 - 02:21:670 - 02:21:823 - 02:21:985 - Consider activating the function for these lines too, although they aren't significant for the gameplay.

[Inner Oni]
01:20:784 - I think you could still push it to 1.35x to improve the effect of the Sv increase.
02:37:912 - ^
02:48:579 - ^

01:56:784 (14,15,16,17) - you need to connect the circles more appropriately to the BPM change, starting from 01:57:034 (18) - , try this (or give a check at Fantazy's idea): https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/3hYup5nI.png https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/mbwTScv9.png

Thanks Taiko SR for the wrong calculations. lmao

[Oni]
01:47:118 (250) - Consider removal of the note to have a consistent break of the pattern chain like 01:44:451 - and 01:41:951 - .

[Muzukashii]
Guess something went wrong with the OD. Reduce it to 5~4.5, HP optionally to 5.5.
I strongly suggest to remove the SV increases, used from the higher difficulties. They won't work very well for the respective difficulty level class. Do only use them to adjust the BPM changes.

00:37:940 - 00:49:565 - The section lacks of actual emphasis. imo it doesn't really represent the section of the song so well and feels too random. The part between 00:37:940 - 00:40:940 - could be reworked like this: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/pXQXmiYe.png (that provides more breaks that gives room for more dedicated emphasis and simplifies the pattern chain that works well corresponding to Oni and Futsuu), or for 00:40:940 - 00:43:940 - : https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/jV1aLrRj.png (just some more breaks and color changes to emphasize stronger sounds such as vocals). Generally it is never bad to use (smaller) breaks, formed as 1/1, 2/1, 4/1 to create emphasis.

00:50:315 - 01:02:315 - same applies here, you may want to be consistent with the ideas.
01:05:285 (212) - coulda be removed so the combo chain isn't so long at all.
01:07:951 (230) - 01:08:951 (236) - 01:10:285 (244) - ^, consider the BPM changed drastically so having the same density and combo lenght isn't always good.
01:28:784 - 01:39:784 - this section may also be simplified since Oni and Inner Oni are kept pretty simple as well, comparing to Futsuu it also seems like a too big jump and less linear. Removing the triplets for the most part (or completely) should do a big part to make the difficulty curve more consistent.
02:08:534 (59) - instead of k k k you could use k d k to emphasize the drum hits more.

Generally the difficulty has some trouble to emphasize sufficient sounds and beats and feels dull to play. However, there is still enough room and time for improvement, don't take this too personal what I write.

[Futsuu]
00:09:065 - imo I find the break more appropriate at 00:09:815 - . Note at 00:09:815 - can be moved to 00:09:065 - instead.
00:37:940 - 00:40:940 - Might rework that part a bit since every 2nd 2/1 break is sorta weird and not necessary to have at all. https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/mgNKyTTx.png Try to repeat that.
01:05:118 - 01:10:118 - Personally I don't really like that part. Some oppoturnities getting lost and the rhythm is pretty odd to follow. https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/SXZkDcf3.png Highlighted notes are finishers.

[Kantan]
00:06:065 - What about a note here? as well for 00:09:065 - and 00:12:065 - . Probably too dull to only include 1/1 notes here.
00:27:065 - ^ as well for 00:30:065 - 00:33:065 - 00:36:065 - .

Aisha

837 posts

Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

Aisha 2017-11-29T07:26:04+00:00

WTF TRIPLE posTTTT it's so bugged!

Fantazy wrote:
hihi!!!

[General]
01:57:034 - i think is not well of this sv? 01:55:784 - try this?

or start at x1.10 then +0.03
yeah it looks nice, done!
02:42:245 - the problem are the 3 notes

the inherited points' offest correct , need little adjust
oh i fixed on maziari's mod, thanks for pointing so!
01:28:451 - 02:58:912 - kiai time finish at these two part?or i feel its better to finish at these 01:26:451 - 02:54:245 -
also fixed!
[Inner Oni]
00:00:440 - about this part... how do u think of this pattern?
or
mmm i will think twice about it, for now i will try to hold unless i get so many comments
02:20:034 - as my feeling? kkd kdd ddkkddddk
i fixed first two patterns but the third fixed as 1/3 according to mazziari's mod
02:43:579 - i think here need some different pattern? any 1 3 5?
i want to overmap as long as i can here, since it's the last 'hard' part of the map!
02:47:662 - better to link here
i think it's well support according to vocals D:
03:04:412 - add a note here? k d ?
mm i like that space according to vocals
03:06:245 - ddkkkdkdk?
done

PP explosion?_?_?_?_?_?
~~pp for every1 but me ><~~

Thank you for the mod Fanlazy! : )

Stefan wrote:
[General]
-) Preferably if you haven't looked around yet, a new background with a better quality could be used. Might look on my own for one.
I will find some tomorrow!
-) 00:50:315 - since the 2/1 barline looks silly imo you could activate the Omit Bar line function to remove it.
oh forgot to, done!
-) 02:21:184 - 02:21:337 - 02:21:513 - 02:21:670 - 02:21:823 - 02:21:985 - Consider activating the function for these lines too, although they aren't significant for the gameplay.
done also
[Inner Oni]
01:20:784 - I think you could still push it to 1.35x to improve the effect of the Sv increase.
02:37:912 - ^
02:48:579 - ^
oki, it's readable and looks nice
01:56:784 (14,15,16,17) - you need to connect the circles more appropriately to the BPM change, starting from 01:57:034 (18) - , try this (or give a check at Fantazy's idea): https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/3hYup5nI.png https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/mbwTScv9.png
yeah! i applied his suggestion, pretty good
Thanks Taiko SR for the wrong calculations. lmao

[Oni]
01:47:118 (250) - Consider removal of the note to have a consistent break of the pattern chain like 01:44:451 - and 01:41:951 - .
uh yeah it was extense, oki

[Kantan]
00:06:065 - What about a note here? as well for 00:09:065 - and 00:12:065 - . Probably too dull to only include 1/1 notes here.
yeah it was my mistake, but remapped this section
00:27:065 - ^ as well for 00:30:065 - 00:33:065 - 00:36:065 - .
way same comment as above, added two of them to let some 4/1 breaks even in low bpm lol

Thank you for the comments Stef!

DarkVortex

668 posts

Joined September 2012

DarkVortex 2017-11-29T15:20:40+00:00

Okay here's we go

Stefan wrote:
[Futsuu]
00:09:065 - imo I find the break more appropriate at 00:09:815 - . Note at 00:09:815 - can be moved to 00:09:065 - instead.
00:37:940 - 00:40:940 - Might rework that part a bit since every 2nd 2/1 break is sorta weird and not necessary to have at all. https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/mgNKyTTx.png Try to repeat that. Reworked that part but I didn't really like your suggestion sorry
01:05:118 - 01:10:118 - Personally I don't really like that part. Some oppoturnities getting lost and the rhythm is pretty odd to follow. https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/SXZkDcf3.png Highlighted notes are finishers. I actually like that part and the patterns are interesting enough imo...

rew0825 wrote:
Vortex' Futsuu
00:46:190 (126,127) - Ctrl+g? Look it look better and different with 00:40:190 (107,108,109) - .
00:58:565 (164,165) - Same as above ^.
01:02:315 - I think you can add note here for consistency with another diff.
02:15:784 (69,70) - Ctrl+g? Look it look better.

That's all from me. Hope it can help you. Good luck

Protonori wrote:
From my modding queue~
Remember that these are suggestions. Feel free to ignore them.

[Vortex' Futsuu]
00:15:065 (38) - Switch to k?
00:35:877 (94) - Change to d? The pitch is different than 00:35:315 (92).
00:43:940 (120) - Finisher, like you did at 00:37:940 (101)?
00:56:315 (158) - ^
01:08:618 (14) - d, to emphasize the higher vocals at 01:08:785?
01:09:951 (19) - ^
01:29:118 (78) - Finisher? You mapped the cymbal at 01:34:451 with a finisher.

Fixed all unless stated otherwise. Thanks for modding!

DarkVortex

668 posts

Joined September 2012

DarkVortex 2017-12-14T09:53:53+00:00

Here's my diff btw, seems like it got lost in this thread

SPOILER

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: xx.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 162912
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 1
Mode: 1
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 440,3440,9440,15440,18440,24440,37940,65118,75784,89118,99784,110451,117034,125034,133034,142246,152912,163579,179579,188912
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 1.600001

[Metadata]
Title:LOVE x LOVE Whistle
TitleUnicode:愛×愛ホイッスル
Artist:Matsushita&yuikonnu
ArtistUnicode:松下＆ゆいこんぬ
Creator:xfraczynho
Version:Vortex' Futsuu
Source:
Tags:PolyphonicBranch Vocaloid Vocaloid2 Kagamine Rin 鏡音リン Hatsune Miku 初音ミク めいこ Meiko Nico Douga DarkVortex [-Crissaegrim-]
BeatmapID:1439293
BeatmapSetID:666102

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:2
OverallDifficulty:4
ApproachRate:10
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"sryforthis.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
2,110651,115334
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

[TimingPoints]
440,375,4,1,0,80,1,0
50315,375,4,1,0,80,1,0
63785,333.333333333333,4,1,0,80,1,0
75784,-100,4,1,0,80,0,1
89118,-100,4,1,0,80,0,0
117034,250,4,1,0,80,1,0
117034,-111.111111111111,4,1,0,80,0,0
141034,300,4,1,0,80,1,0
141034,-83.3333333333333,4,1,0,80,0,0
141184,307.692307692308,4,1,0,80,1,0
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Crissa

849 posts

Joined December 2014

Crissa 2017-12-19T14:35:17+00:00

I'm sorry for being this late:(

rew0825 wrote:
Hello from my modding!

Criss' Muzukashii
00:05:690 (26,28) - Ctrl+g? Look it follow a melody better. sure
00:08:502 (40,41) - Same as above ^. ^
00:11:877 (11) - Change to k? for some different part. clapu
00:14:877 (26,27) - Change to k D? for follow a part before will use D all over. sure
00:23:877 to 00:36:440 - So long notes in Muzukashii when compare with Oni is have more break so I think It's overmap. Please remove some note for easier. I suggest 00:24:252 (25) - 00:25:752 (35) - 00:27:252 (45) - 00:28:752 (55) - 00:30:252 (10) - 00:31:752 (20) - 00:33:252 (30) - 00:34:752 (40) -
00:37:940 to 00:49:565 - Same as above ^. made a lot of changes according to these
00:49:940 (124) - Add finish? Look it stead melody with vocal. yeah
00:50:315 to 01:01:940 - Same as 00:23:877 to 00:36:440
01:03:785 (199,200,201,202,203,204,205,206) - Remove this and change to spinner.
01:05:118 to 01:13:118 - Same as 00:23:877 to 00:36:440
01:15:784 to 01:20:451 - Same as above ^.
01:21:118 to 01:26:451 - Same as above ^.
02:32:912 to 02:37:579 - Same as above ^.
02:38:245 to 02:41:912 - Same as above ^.
02:43:579 to 02:48:245 - Same as above ^.
02:48:912 to 02:52:579 - Same as above ^. fixed

That's all from me. Hope it can help you. Good luck

Stefan wrote:
[General]

[Muzukashii]
Guess something went wrong with the OD. Reduce it to 5~4.5, HP optionally to 5.5. 4.5 - 5.5
I strongly suggest to remove the SV increases, used from the higher difficulties. They won't work very well for the respective difficulty level class. Do only use them to adjust the BPM changes. did something here

00:37:940 - 00:49:565 - The section lacks of actual emphasis. imo it doesn't really represent the section of the song so well and feels too random. The part between 00:37:940 - 00:40:940 - could be reworked like this: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/pXQXmiYe.png (that provides more breaks that gives room for more dedicated emphasis and simplifies the pattern chain that works well corresponding to Oni and Futsuu), or for 00:40:940 - 00:43:940 - : https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/jV1aLrRj.png (just some more breaks and color changes to emphasize stronger sounds such as vocals). Generally it is never bad to use (smaller) breaks, formed as 1/1, 2/1, 4/1 to create emphasis. used these examples and moved stuff a bit so it suits better

00:50:315 - 01:02:315 - same applies here, you may want to be consistent with the ideas. yeah
01:05:285 (212) - coulda be removed so the combo chain isn't so long at all. sure
01:07:951 (230) - 01:08:951 (236) - 01:10:285 (244) - ^, consider the BPM changed drastically so having the same density and combo lenght isn't always good. yup, made a lot of breaks here too
01:28:784 - 01:39:784 - this section may also be simplified since Oni and Inner Oni are kept pretty simple as well, comparing to Futsuu it also seems like a too big jump and less linear. Removing the triplets for the most part (or completely) should do a big part to make the difficulty curve more consistent. true, removed almost every triple
02:08:534 (59) - instead of k k k you could use k d k to emphasize the drum hits more. sure

Generally the difficulty has some trouble to emphasize sufficient sounds and beats and feels dull to play. However, there is still enough room and time for improvement, don't take this too personal what I write. dw, i need to improve o.o

Thank you a lot for modding o/
(sorry again for the delay orz)

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Aisha

837 posts

Joined December 2012

Topic Starter

Aisha 2017-12-19T19:52:28+00:00

Both updated ~

Dusk-

Beatmap Nominator

794 posts

Joined March 2015

Dusk- 2018-01-31T16:31:21+00:00

Kantan
00:28:940 (33) - This has a high pitch, so change to k
00:34:940 (40) - ^
01:01:565 (77) - Delete this note, this will be too straining for new players
00:43:190 (51) - If you don't agree with the above suggestion, you really need to delete this. New players will not be able to do this as it will be too complicated for them
01:49:951 (148) - You should just delete this imo. The rhythm change will cause newer players to miss
01:58:534 (5) - From this part to 02:20:534 (47) - , delete the 1/2. This part is far too fast for new players to be able to do triplets. You should keep it to 1/1 snapping
02:11:534 (31) - If you're not going to go with the above suggestion, give the player a little break here by deleting this

Vortex' Futsuu
01:07:951 (10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19) - This sounds kinda off imo. Stick to 1/1 here
02:00:034 (14) - This is too straining for futsuu-level players and is something I'd expect to see in a Muzukashii
02:06:034 (32) - ^
02:14:284 (59) - ^
02:18:284 (73) - ^
02:10:784 (48) - Delete this to give more emphasis on the next 5 notes
02:56:912 (197) - Why is the this a d and not a finisher? On the first "LOVE" on 02:54:245 (191) - you made it a K, so do the same to the other one
02:56:579 (196) - If you have gone with the above suggestion, either delete or change this into a d to give more emphasis on the K right after it

Criss' Muzukashii
From 00:18:440 (1) - to 00:21:065 (11) - make these all d as they are all d in every other diff
01:41:618 (101) - High pitch here, make this k since you seem to be vocal mapping here
01:46:951 (125) - If you don't agree with the suggestion above, just know that you made the same exact pitch a k here
01:59:034 (10) - I don't understand why this needed to be a finisher?
02:01:034 (19) - ^
02:03:034 (29) - ^
02:05:034 (38) - ^
02:07:034 (47) - ^
02:09:034 (57) - ^
02:12:159 (71,72,73,74) - This may be too hard for Muzukashii-level players. Make only the last note a finisher

Oni
01:19:534 (87) - d here sounds much better
01:49:368 (267) - Delete this note. This may be too hard for players that have just started playing Oni diffs
02:42:246 (314,315,316,317,318,319) - Delete unnecessary barlines

Inner Oni
02:56:662 a d here would be nice as it goes well with the K after

That's all from me, hope this was helpful~
Good luck~

Last edited by Dusk- 2018-03-06T19:18:13+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

DarkVortex

668 posts

Joined September 2012

DarkVortex 2018-02-01T09:54:25+00:00

_DUSK_ wrote:
Vortex' Futsuu
01:07:951 (10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19) - This sounds kinda off imo. Stick to 1/1 here Fixed
02:00:034 (14) - This is too straining for futsuu-level players and is something I'd expect to see in a Muzukashii
02:06:034 (32) - ^
02:14:284 (59) - ^
02:18:284 (73) - ^ Reworked that part a bit
02:10:784 (48) - Delete this to give more emphasis on the next 5 notes Done
02:56:912 (197) - Why is the this a d and not a finisher? On the first "LOVE" on 02:54:245 (191) - you made it a K, so do the same to the other one Fixed
02:56:579 (196) - If you have gone with the above suggestion, either delete or change this into a d to give more emphasis on the K right after it Fixed

Thanks for modding!

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Crissa

849 posts

Joined December 2014

Crissa 2018-02-02T00:48:05+00:00

_DUSK_ wrote:
Criss' Muzukashii
From 00:18:440 (1) - to 00:21:065 (11) - make these all d as they are all d in every other diff didn't noticed, why not
01:41:618 (101) - High pitch here, make this k since you seem to be vocal mapping here sure changed a bit this pattern
01:46:951 (125) - If you don't agree with the suggestion above, just know that you made the same exact pitch a k here
01:59:034 (10) - I don't understand why this needed to be a finisher?
02:01:034 (19) - ^
02:03:034 (29) - ^
02:05:034 (38) - ^
02:07:034 (47) - ^
02:09:034 (57) - ^ fixed all
02:12:159 (71,72,73,74) - This may be too hard for Muzukashii-level players. Make only the last note a finisher

That's all from me, hope this was helpful~
Good luck~

Thanks for modding~

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Etsu

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Etsu 2018-05-01T17:02:37+00:00

Hi xfrac here my mod, sorry for the super delay!

[General]

The quality of the current image looks a little bad, maybe you should replace it like std.

[Kantan]

00:13:190 (17) - cambiaria a kat para variar como el anterior (15), se siente mejor imo.
00:20:315 - etc.. agregar nota? terminar esos golpes que escucho ahi quedaria bien para esta diff
00:37:940 (45) - siento que deberia ser kat aqui
00:38:690 - pondria una nota aqui se siente algo vacio imo
00:48:815 (59) - cambiar a kat? el sonido es muy similar que la nota anterior 00:48:440 (58) -
01:03:785 (80) - y si lo amplia a 01:04:785 - ya que también es algo corto ese slider quedaria muy bien aqui.
01:09:785 (88) - cambiar a kat? algo referencia como 01:08:451 (85,86,87) - en vez de ddk seria dkk al revés xD
01:18:118 (102) - mover a 01:17:451 - encaja muy bien tanto el sonido y vocal y el patron se veria bien imo.
01:28:451 (117) - cambiar a kat? por el vocal que es alto.
01:30:784 - agregar una nota? creo que seria bueno que siguieras ese sonidito de bit como lo hiciste aca 01:33:451 (123) -
02:27:579 (57,58,59) - tal vez cambie a d k d para el balance queda bien imo
02:38:913 (74,75) - control + g? concuerda para la voz que va subiendo y bajando xd
02:41:912 (79,80) - sinto que no tiene sentido estas dos notas es algo extraño, mejor mueve esta nota 02:41:912 (79) - en 02:41:579 - then cambiando a don en 02:42:245 (80) - y 02:42:912 - agregando kat ahi quedaria muy bueno imo.

[Vortex' Futsuu]

00:03:815 (6) - remove? for the section that is little long pattern, as similar to this 00:09:815 -
00:40:377 (110) - remove? I do not think it's necessary, it's also rather dense imo
00:49:190 - change kat? there is a loud clear sound and it is better to vary with this note same fit vocal.
01:07:785 - feel that a note is missing here.
01:26:451 (72) - change finish don? for the previous note that is kat, it would sound very well that emphasis to don finish imo.
02:00:284 (15) - delete? considering break since pattern is long.
02:12:284 (54) - change don for variation?
02:14:284 - delete? same reason above
02:40:245 (144) - change don? It's kind of confusing to play between both notes for the voice 02:40:245 (144,145) -

[Criss' Muzukashii]

00:12:252 (12) - maybe delete this note for reduce patter and change dom in 00:11:877 (10) - is flow better here imo.

I will continue modifying when xfrac returns, I had it modified a long time ago but many things happened and I could not finish it.

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BanchoBot 2018-06-14T04:24:09+00:00

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