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17:44 Greenshell: OK BOI I'M READY
17:44 Nepuri: Ok
17:44 Nepuri: noch die otomads dann kann ich
17:44 Greenshell: btw der alte bg von rebirth war 100 mal besser
17:44 Greenshell: DansGame
17:44 Nepuri: Ari :v
17:52 Nepuri: so
17:52 Nepuri: los gehts
17:53 Nepuri: moment
17:54 Nepuri: BG zu groß :^)
17:56 Nepuri: Muzu ist viel zu schwer
17:57 Greenshell: meme zu alt :^)
17:58 Nepuri: und moment
17:58 Nepuri: ich sag mal so wo man was wegmachen könnt
17:59 Nepuri: 00:16:877 - bis nach 00:26:477 - sind zu viele triplets
17:59 Nepuri: kannst nur jeden 2 triplet mappen tbh
17:59 Nepuri: sonst geht das mit der oni allein schon nicht mehr klar was density betrifft
18:00 Greenshell: oh ich merk gerade ich hab keine 3/2 breaks von 00:13:127 - bis 00:28:127 -
18:00 Greenshell: rip me XD
18:00 Nepuri: Und ja das auch
18:00 Nepuri: 3/2+ sind wichtig
18:00 Greenshell: da noch mehr breaks zu forcen fühlt sich iwie so falsch an
18:00 Greenshell: low diffs make me wanna quit w
18:00 Nepuri: lamo
18:02 Nepuri: sonst ausser den breaks/dem part da ist muzu zu oni gut
18:02 Greenshell: ich glaub ich handle die triplet sache in der muzu wie 1/2 in futsuu
18:02 Nepuri: ?
18:02 Greenshell: im ersten part wenige bis keine, nach der kiai mehr
18:03 Nepuri: Das ist mein problem mit der futsuu
18:03 Nepuri: zu wenig 1/2 bis zum kiai hin lol
18:03 Nepuri: da sollten definitiv welche hin
18:03 Nepuri: Irgendwann musst du von der einen diff zur anderen ein jump machen und genau das ruiniert din spread
18:03 Greenshell: moment lass mich erst versuchen muzu zu adjusten
18:03 Nepuri: Okay
18:05 Greenshell: srsly der song provided NIX um 3/2 breaks sinnvoll einzubauen
18:05 Nepuri: Dann muss es leider forced sein
18:06 Nepuri: zwei oder so würden auch schon genügen
18:06 Greenshell: ja irgendwo halt
18:06 Greenshell: dass das immer noch consistent is
18:06 Nepuri: sooo consistent muss es auch nicht sein
18:07 Nepuri: da ist das break argument stärker als consistency finde ich
18:07 Greenshell: 00:20:927 - wäre das ein guter spot?
18:08 Nepuri: ja klar
18:08 Nepuri: kannst das so bei jeder occurence machen
18:08 Nepuri: dann wird der spread auch mit futsuu besser w
18:09 Greenshell: https://puu.sh/xMELz/fac055ac74.png
18:09 Nepuri: ;w;
18:12 Greenshell: ich fokussiere mich mal lieber auf 3/2 breaks als darauf die 1/4 zu nerfen, so extrem find ich die wirklich nicht
18:12 Nepuri: Also an sich nicht extrem
18:12 Nepuri: nur in dem part halt
18:13 Nepuri: die sind da schon denser als in der kiai und viel denser als die oni in dem part
18:13 Greenshell: ich will da erst mal abwarten
18:14 Nepuri: Okay
18:14 Nepuri: Frag nochmal leute die more experienced sind
18:17 Greenshell: so
18:17 Greenshell: footshoe time
18:17 Nepuri: Hmmm?
18:17 Nepuri: Jo
18:17 Nepuri: Wenn die muzu entsprechend mit den 3/2 generft wurde
18:17 Nepuri: dann ist die footshoe ok in beziehung mit der muzu
18:17 Greenshell: updated
18:17 Nepuri: Jo moment
18:17 Greenshell: :thonk:
18:18 Greenshell: weiß noch nicht wie ich das mitm ende der kiai machen soll, da nen spot für ne 3/2 zu finden is noch schwerer
18:18 Nepuri: Da finde ich es nicht unbedingt notwendig
18:18 Nepuri: alle diffs haben da wenig breaks
18:18 Nepuri: also für ihre verhältnisse
18:18 Greenshell: jo
18:19 Greenshell: war auch der sinn dort nochmal mADnutS zu gehen
18:19 Nepuri: jo
18:19 Greenshell: btw
18:19 Nepuri: hmm?
18:19 Greenshell: du bist glaub ich genau einen rank hinter mir
18:19 Greenshell: zfgRunOgre
18:19 Nepuri: bin ich
18:19 Nepuri: :^)
18:20 Nepuri: noch was?
18:20 Nepuri: Weil oni - Angel ist gut
18:20 Nepuri: ist ja eh ne inner .^)
18:20 Greenshell: futsuu hat doppelt so viele objects wie kantan WutFace
18:20 Nepuri: Die buffe ich gleich auch einmal
18:20 Nepuri: (ohne die SR zu breaken lol)
18:20 Greenshell: wollte grad fragen ob du das iwie hinkriegst
18:20 Greenshell: nice
18:21 Greenshell: kannst den log dann posten I guess
18:21 Nepuri: okay

Spread stuff lmao
DeletedUser_6637817
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Topic Starter
HomieLove
updated
Charlotte
hi via pm.

[ about]
  1. d is don note
  2. k is kat note
  3. D is big don note
  4. K is big kat note
[ General]


  • Looks good.


[ Fallen Angel]


  • 00:34:127 - change to d.follow the vocal.

    00:36:827 - change to k.^

    00:41:552 - del? I prefer triplet.

    00:44:852 - or 00:45:152 - del? I think little excessive pattern.

    01:16:277 - change to k.Plays better to me.

    01:28:427 (563,564) - change to k.I feel high sound.

    Good.
If get more mod,call me.I'll second mod :)
Topic Starter
HomieLove

Charlotte wrote:

hi via pm.

[ about]
  1. d is don note
  2. k is kat note
  3. D is big don note
  4. K is big kat note
[ General]


  • Looks good.


[ Fallen Angel]


  • 00:34:127 - change to d.follow the vocal.

    00:36:827 - change to k.^

    00:41:552 - del? I prefer triplet.

    00:44:852 - or 00:45:152 - del? I think little excessive pattern.

    01:16:277 - change to k.Plays better to me.

    01:28:427 (563,564) - change to k.I feel high sound.
    To me, the high pitch is held constantly, with a slight decrease from 01:28:427 (561) - onwards.

    Good.
If get more mod,call me.I'll second mod :)
Everything else was applied with other minor changes, thank you! :)
neonat
Nepu's Kantan

00:18:227 (26,27) - 00:20:627 (30,31) - 00:23:027 (34,35) - using 1/1 beats here, it just feels like the main rhythm in the song is cut short. They are more generally portrayed well if you had them 3/2 apart, just like 00:25:427 (37,38,39) -
This would also apply at the section from 00:36:227 to 00:42:527 - just ensure the 3/1 spacing after 15-20 notes, which is possible. Importantly though, 00:37:127 (49,50) - really sound off, they sound better on 00:36:827 and 00:37:427 - if you do not want to land notes on beats like 00:38:927 and 00:41:327 - shifting the focus to 00:39:227 and 00:41:627 is also nice as the vocals on that beat are held and could work nice if mapped to
similarly at 01:18:227 (3,4) - 01:20:627 (7,8) - 01:23:027 (11,12) -

Fallen Angel

00:40:352 (222) - why the triplet here though, if you put it at 00:40:652 though it would be similar to the phrase earlier on that area in the music still seems more appropriate for any addition 1/4s
01:09:152 (413) - remove? segmenting 01:08:627 (407,408,409,410,411) from 01:09:227 (414,415,416,417,418) - with the single beat in between leaves more impact for when the vocals start again at 01:09:227
01:16:652 (475,476) - kinda excessive, the vocals stop at 01:16:577 (474) - there is no additional new sounds created till 01:16:877 (475) - other than the held vocals, putting the bigger gap for 01:16:877 (477) - gives a bigger lead-up to the new section rather than a extended long stream to end off the previous phrase


Good Luck!
Topic Starter
HomieLove

neonat wrote:

Fallen Angel

00:40:352 (222) - why the triplet here though, if you put it at 00:40:652 though it would be similar to the phrase earlier on that area in the music still seems more appropriate for any addition 1/4s
01:09:152 (413) - remove? segmenting 01:08:627 (407,408,409,410,411) from 01:09:227 (414,415,416,417,418) - with the single beat in between leaves more impact for when the vocals start again at 01:09:227
01:16:652 (475,476) - kinda excessive, the vocals stop at 01:16:577 (474) - there is no additional new sounds created till 01:16:877 (475) - other than the held vocals, putting the bigger gap for 01:16:877 (477) - gives a bigger lead-up to the new section rather than a extended long stream to end off the previous phrase


Good Luck!
All applied, thank you!
DeletedUser_6637817
I agree with all what Neonat said and applied all! Thank you for giving suggestions that dont blow up SR!

Differoni
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Nifty
From that nifty queue~ ◾ ◽

General

Why is the OD for lower diff so high? It should be more like 2/3 than 4.
Why is the HP 7 for every diff? Pls follow standard OD/HP conventions with this set, it's not an exception.
BG GIRL HAS NO PANTS ON AAA CALL THE LEWD POLICE

Nepu's Kantan

00:28:577 (40) - Since you made the first hit be on the ending syllable of the vocal (00:26:477 - here) you should make all of the following the same way, meaning move all of them back 1 beat.
01:14:627 - Here should be a d k d because it's the same vocal as 01:12:227 (107,108,109) - .
Check out the finishers in other maps and try to match them maybe.
00:55:427 - Consider changing to D to match every other diff.

Futsuu

00:26:177 (56) - This finisher is awkward.
00:33:377 (69,70) - Why aren't these finishers? They're the same intensity as the others.
00:44:327 (103) - Would change to K to match every other diff.
May wanna check out the finishers you're using to make sure they're all, like, the same and stuff.

Muzukashii

00:35:627 - This section is too not intense for 2 triples in a row
You could totally use some sv in this.
01:15:827 - You don't need the triple here, reduce unnecessary difficulty.

Oni

00:02:036 (5) - Don't need this note.
It ok.

Fallen Oni? Faillen? What's a Faillen?

00:02:036 (5) - u know.
00:11:852 - Add a d here, get rid of the earlier triple, lines up with the triple you used in the first pattern.
If you ask me, I would say just delete this, add a few notes you left out of your oni to make this diff look harder and name it Fallen Oni. It's pretty overmapped.
Topic Starter
HomieLove

Nifty wrote:

From that nifty queue~ ◾ ◽

General

Why is the OD for lower diff so high? It should be more like 2/3 than 4.
I don't see the issue with that honestly, the OD spread is as linear as it gets and 4 is still allowed and makes much more sense than anything lower imo.
Why is the HP 7 for every diff? Pls follow standard OD/HP conventions with this set, it's not an exception.
Don't see a problem here either, HP 7 is still appropiate for each diff with the current note count, neither too harsh nor too lenient.
BG GIRL HAS NO PANTS ON AAA CALL THE LEWD POLICE
>////<

Futsuu

00:26:177 (56) - This finisher is awkward.
I sorta agree, but removing it would half-ass the whole vocal pattern while removing the note after makes it feel plain empty. Really not sure what to do here.
00:33:377 (69,70) - Why aren't these finishers? They're the same intensity as the others.
I don't hear the vocalists singing as strong as before, I'm honestly not comfortable with that myself but finishers would give it a feeling of overemphasis, that goes for all diffs
00:44:327 (103) - Would change to K to match every other diff.
eh my intent was to keep it simple but sure thing
May wanna check out the finishers you're using to make sure they're all, like, the same and stuff.

Muzukashii

00:35:627 - This section is too not intense for 2 triples in a row
fair point
You could totally use some sv in this.
01:15:827 - You don't need the triple here, reduce unnecessary difficulty.
ye

Oni

00:02:036 (5) - Don't need this note.
agree
It ok.

Fallen Oni? Faillen? What's a Faillen?

that's what the character calls herself in the anime but I'm just gonna rename to Inner Oni to avoid more shit concerning that
00:02:036 (5) - u know.
yes
00:11:852 - Add a d here, get rid of the earlier triple, lines up with the triple you used in the first pattern.
done
If you ask me, I would say just delete this, add a few notes you left out of your oni to make this diff look harder and name it Fallen Oni. It's pretty overmapped.
I can see why you think so, but in my opinion it's still within a reasonable range of improvisation. It's not like I'm throwing out big stream patterns whereever I feel like it could fit, the density is still somewhat balanced (being most dense at the very end of the Kiai, similar to the other difficulties
Thanks!
DeletedUser_6637817

Nifty wrote:

From that nifty queue~ ◾ ◽

Nepu's Kantan

00:28:577 (40) - Since you made the first hit be on the ending syllable of the vocal (00:26:477 - here) you should make all of the following the same way, meaning move all of them back 1 beat. But that note does not correlate with any of the following ones concerning my focus, so i will decline.
01:14:627 - Here should be a d k d because it's the same vocal as 01:12:227 (107,108,109) - . Fair enough.
Check out the finishers in other maps and try to match them maybe. Ew finisher spam in Kantans wwwwww
00:55:427 - Consider changing to D to match every other diff. Sounds like a Kat to me my dude! Will keep for now!
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Kin
few thing were changed.
The most major change was SV changed adjustment here 00:26:177 -
& reduced overlap on 00:30:977 - 00:33:377 - . (there's still overlap in 16:9 but works fine & really nice in 4:3)
Surono
babies safe
22:08 Greenshell: helo ther
22:09 Surono: helo thor
22:10 Greenshell: do u hev tiem to check bubbled set?
22:10 Surono: breathinkkkkkk
22:10 Surono: /np
22:12 Greenshell: :thonkkkk:
22:12 Surono: /nnppnpnn
22:12 Surono: >:C dem laifu.exe
22:12 Greenshell: feelsbadman
22:12 Surono: foolsbatman
22:12 Surono: /np
22:13 Greenshell: foodbatman
22:13 Surono: :ejez:
22:14 Greenshell: so i guess dis a no?
22:14 Greenshell: life.exe taek 100% perfomance
22:15 Surono: /np this command, try it
22:20 Surono: hueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee madnuts
22:20 Surono: nutshell qwq
22:20 *Surono cri hue itz k
22:20 Greenshell: SuperNut shell
22:21 *Greenshell is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1409649 Tomita Miyu, Onishi Saori, Ohzora Naomi, Hanazawa Kana - Hallelujah*Essaim]
22:21 Surono: Supergreenutshell
22:21 Greenshell: supa weeb
22:21 Greenshell: ye same
22:52 Surono: wat i shuld do
22:52 Surono: :U
22:53 Greenshell: good question :v
22:53 Surono: owait :"V
22:55 Surono: smth smth concept from me but zz dem explaoin.. 01:12:527 - kat.. 01:15:527 - dlet
22:55 Surono: 01:12:227 - treee and 01:14:627 - and tree in da road...
22:55 *Surono is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1409650 Tomita Miyu, Onishi Saori, Ohzora Naomi, Hanazawa Kana - Hallelujah*Essaim [Futsuu]]
22:56 Greenshell: a
22:56 Greenshell: deleted these
22:56 Surono: hng
22:56 Surono: updt
22:57 Greenshell: ye
22:58 Greenshell: update popped bubble xd
22:58 Surono: boommm
22:59 Surono: 01:11:927 - cat weoww.. plox..
22:59 Surono: owait nvm
22:59 Surono: ok now looks baby yummy!
23:00 Greenshell: dem
23:00 Surono: hng
23:00 Greenshell: anything else in other diffs?
23:00 Surono: nope
23:00 Surono: just worrying babies :swoat:
23:00 Greenshell: :thonk:
23:04 Surono: 01:11:627 - maybe want move this to whiteticc right and change kat?
23:04 Greenshell: in footshoe?
23:04 Surono: yes
23:05 Surono: 01:11:927 - stronk TINKK
23:05 Greenshell: oke
23:05 Surono: updt rank
23:06 Greenshell: ye
23:07 Surono: savelog
23:07 Surono: dem forget /
Topic Starter
HomieLove
ye
Surono
greenutshell
Topic Starter
HomieLove



Thank you both!
[R]
Gratz on first rank
Aurele
gg c:
Topic Starter
HomieLove
aaaa now it's ranked

thank you guys :)
Meowcenaries
grats!
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