Natsuiro Burning Love*Prim - Sore wa Hanabi no Youna Koi [Ta · forum

wmfchris

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wmfchris 2017-09-03T13:59:16+00:00

Just like me playing Dance Evolution Arcade

yoooooo

BTW rip beatstream ;w;

Last edited by wmfchris 2017-09-04T11:20:23+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

yuzu__rinrin

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yuzu__rinrin 2017-09-03T14:45:13+00:00

I write a little about Inner.

I wrote to the forum because I am not good at English. www

00:16:541 (113,114,115,116) -
This doublet sounded a bit odd.

00:14:398 (97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106) -
00:15:882 (108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117) -
Considering it, how about trying this shape?

bar line 00:16:376 -
00:26:596 (197,198,199,200,201,202,203,204,205,206) -
This is the same suggestion as above.

00:26:349 (195,196) - delete,

bar line 00:26:843 -
This arrangement will allow you to pick up a drum naturally.
01:33:190 (713) - d
follow drum, and
01:33:025 (712,713,714,715,716,717) -
I see it as like, you can let the pitch of Notes of 01:33:519 - be high tone.

that's all

Nardo's map is fun.
good luck for Ranked~

Nardoxyribonucleic

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Topic Starter

Nardoxyribonucleic 2017-09-03T15:28:46+00:00

yuzu__rinrin wrote:
I write a little about Inner.

I wrote to the forum because I am not good at English. www
00:16:541 (113,114,115,116) -
This doublet sounded a bit odd. Hmm, I would prefer following the vocals at 00:16:376 (112,114,116,117) - by using the current arrangement.

00:14:398 (97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106) -
00:15:882 (108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117) -
Considering it, how about trying this shape?

bar line 00:16:376 -

00:26:596 (197,198,199,200,201,202,203,204,205,206) -
This is the same suggestion as above. same as above

00:26:349 (195,196) - delete,

bar line 00:26:843 -
This arrangement will allow you to pick up a drum naturally.

01:33:190 (713) - d
follow drum, and
01:33:025 (712,713,714,715,716,717) -
I see it as like, you can let the pitch of Notes of 01:33:519 - be high tone. Changed 01:33:025 (713) - to k to focus on the drums instead.
that's all

Nardo's map is fun.
good luck for Ranked~

Thanks for your mod yzrin~

_handholding

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Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-09-20T13:05:44+00:00

the oni is quite hard with the long streams, doubles and 1/6 bursts with little breaks between them. Also the overall density is somewhat high. Is there not going to be a diff between this and muzu?

Nardoxyribonucleic

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Nardoxyribonucleic 2017-09-20T13:09:32+00:00

Kisses wrote:
the oni is quite hard with the long streams, doubles and 1/6 bursts with little breaks between them. Also the overall density is somewhat high. Is there not going to be a diff between this and muzu?

There will be one as planned and I will rename wmf's difficulty to Inner Oni.

aabc271

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aabc271 2017-10-05T11:50:19+00:00

Your requested Oni is done

Please check, thx

aabc's Oni

osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:それは花火のような恋
Artist:Natsuiro Burning Love*Prim
ArtistUnicode:夏色バーニングラブ☆Prim
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p.s. would suggest offset ~ +20, no kds

Nardoxyribonucleic

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Topic Starter

Nardoxyribonucleic 2017-10-06T16:26:10+00:00

Uploaded aabc's Oni and fixed offset.

wmfchris

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wmfchris 2017-10-07T01:48:08+00:00

Seems like our understanding to the song differs quite a lot lol

yassu-

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yassu- 2017-10-16T19:06:47+00:00

M4M

Kantan

・00:13:759 - add k　02:01:891 - pattern
・00:50:682 (77,78) - swap　vocal follow
・01:09:144 - change k　00:57:935 (89,90,91) - change pattern and since there are two ddd(1/1)s, I want to eliminate overlapping colors.
・01:17:385 - add k?　01:05:847 (103,104,105) - ^
・01:27:275 - change to k　fit to guitar, and there is no kkk(1/1)pattern in this diff
・01:33:210 - add k　01:33:210 - Compared with 00:50:682 - vocal follow
・01:51:341 - change to k　same as 01:09:144 -
・01:59:583 - add k?　^

Futsuu

・00:35:188 - move to 00:35:352 - I think it will fit sounds....?
・01:05:517 (202,203,204,205,206,207) - swap　Compared with 01:16:067 (236,237,238,239,240,241) -
・01:33:374 - add k　same kantan. Compared with 00:50:682 -
・01:47:715 (328,329,330,331,332,333) - swap　^^
・01:49:034 - delete　01:06:836 - pattern. I think that there is no need to add d
・02:00:737 - add k?　00:11:946 (33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40) - I want to reduce the difference in density

Muzukasnii

・00:02:056 (5,6) - 00:04:693 (17,18) - There is no difference in sounds, so I think that it is better to unite.
・00:14:418 ~ 00:35:517 - add break　Compared to futsuu, I think it will be too difficult.
　・00:20:023 - 00:20:188 - 00:31:726 - delete...?
・01:05:682 - change to d and 01:05:847 - delete　01:06:012 (301,302,303,304) - to emphasize
・01:16:232 - ^ 01:16:396 - ^
・01:47:880 - 01:48:045 - ^
・01:58:429 - 01:58:594 - ^
・02:00:407 - add d?　same as futsuu

aabc's Oni

・00:19:363 - delete　vocal follow
・00:32:056 - delete　^
・01:24:803 - add d　there is sound
・01:25:874 - delete and 01:25:710 - add k　guiter follow
・01:33:045 - add k and 01:33:374 - add d　vocal follow

Wmf's Inner Oni

・00:13:649 - change to d　00:13:100 (6,7,8,9) - swap pattern
・00:11:616 - delete and beginning of spinner　D and spinner are overlapping and it is very hard to read.
・00:35:078 - 00:35:133 - change to k　00:35:352 (178,179,180,181) - swap pattern
・01:28:100 - change to k　01:27:770 (68,69,70,71) - ^
・01:38:319 (134,135,136,137,138,139) - swap　01:38:814 (139,140,141) - vocal follow

Inner Oni

It is really a good map!

good luck~ o/

wmfchris

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wmfchris 2017-10-17T16:42:53+00:00

yassu- wrote:
Wmf's Inner Oni
・00:13:649 - change to d Works either way. I received similar suggestions before and I may consider changing with more feedback on that.　00:13:100 (6,7,8,9) - swap pattern Why? It works well with the pitch and also ends with k which is good imo
・00:11:616 - delete and beginning of spinner　D and spinner are overlapping and it is very hard to read. I know that must be controversial but it fits very well as a sudden break - I want the spinner to be there strongly, but time will tell
・00:35:078 - 00:35:133 - change to k kdkd is what I intended originally but I changed to kddd due to difficulty problem (which is no longer a problem now) so I reverted back to kdkd instead 　00:35:352 (178,179,180,181) - swap pattern Just using the same logic as above for consistency
・01:28:100 - change to k　01:27:770 (68,69,70,71) - ^ Again the current patterns works well with vocal and drums there
・01:38:319 (134,135,136,137,138,139) - swap Following 00:56:451 - and pitch consideration　01:38:814 (139,140,141) - vocal follow
Not sure what do you mean here >_<
good luck~ o/

Thanks and I will carefully think about that spinner

Nardoxyribonucleic

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Nardoxyribonucleic 2017-10-18T16:30:03+00:00

yassu- wrote:
M4M

Kantan
・00:13:759 - add k　02:01:891 - pattern Retained for a longer break here.
・00:50:682 (77,78) - swap　vocal follow Hmm... No change to follow the d k d sequence at 00:51:341 (78,81,84) - as in Inner Oni.
・01:09:144 - change k　00:57:935 (89,90,91) - change pattern and since there are two ddd(1/1)s, I want to eliminate overlapping colors. Fixed in an alternative way for variation.
・01:17:385 - add k?　01:05:847 (103,104,105) - ^ I would prefer keeping the 1/1 triplet for simplicity.
・01:27:275 - change to k　fit to guitar, and there is no kkk(1/1)pattern in this diff Made that in other parts.
・01:33:210 - add k　01:33:210 - Compared with 00:50:682 - vocal follow Nope for the spread's sake.
・01:51:341 - change to k　same as 01:09:144 - Fixed the same way as 01:09:144 -
・01:59:583 - add k?　^ same as 01:17:385 -

Futsuu
・00:35:188 - move to 00:35:352 - I think it will fit sounds....? I would like to keep monotone 1/2 triplets here.
・01:05:517 (202,203,204,205,206,207) - swap　Compared with 01:16:067 (236,237,238,239,240,241) - Retained for pattern consistency.
・01:33:374 - add k　same kantan. Compared with 00:50:682 - same as Kantan
・01:47:715 (328,329,330,331,332,333) - swap　^^ same as 01:05:517 (202,203,204,205,206,207) -
・01:49:034 - delete　01:06:836 - pattern. I think that there is no need to add d fixed
・02:00:737 - add k?　00:11:946 (33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40) - I want to reduce the difference in density same concern as 01:33:374 -

Muzukasnii
・00:02:056 (5,6) - 00:04:693 (17,18) - There is no difference in sounds, so I think that it is better to unite. The former pair has a higher pitch, so it would be fine to show the difference.
・00:14:418 ~ 00:35:517 - add break　Compared to futsuu, I think it will be too difficult.
　・00:20:023 - 00:20:188 - 00:31:726 - delete...? Fixed the first two.
・01:05:682 - change to d and 01:05:847 - delete　01:06:012 (301,302,303,304) - to emphasize fixed
・01:16:232 - ^ 01:16:396 - ^ No change for this one as difficulty increment.
・01:47:880 - 01:48:045 - ^ fixed
・01:58:429 - 01:58:594 - ^ same as 01:16:232 -
・02:00:407 - add d?　same as futsuu same as Futsuu

Inner Oni
It is really a good map!

good luck~ o/

Thanks for your mod yassu~

Waiting aabc's reply now.

[R]

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[R] 2017-10-19T00:29:41+00:00

yo

i take the full resolution (not really high quality), u may want to use it

BG

https://i.imgur.com/7ZNT5V9.jpg

[Futsuu]
00:45:078 - change don, for a good patterning
01:01:396 - change don, to give a variety
01:14:089 - delete, to make finisher sound more clear

[Muzukashii]
00:34:693 - i guess triplet more fit in 00:35:043 - to follow the stream
00:50:517 - move 00:50:188 - to fill the high pitch
01:00:572 - change don
01:00:572 - or 01:00:902 - change don to variate this kdk kdk
01:58:594 - delete, the patter feels too long as muzukashii

[Inner Oni]
00:03:951 - change don for simplicity, its a bit hard to hit at this point
00:44:336 - change don ?
00:56:369 - add note, to sync the 1/6

maybe just that from me
Good luck

Nardoxyribonucleic

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Nardoxyribonucleic 2017-10-19T14:17:00+00:00

[R] wrote:
yo

i take the full resolution (not really high quality), u may want to use it Thanks.
BG

https://i.imgur.com/7ZNT5V9.jpg

[Futsuu]
00:45:078 - change don, for a good patterning Remain unchanged for the snare.
01:01:396 - change don, to give a variety Retained as the sounds are identical.
01:14:089 - delete, to make finisher sound more clear No change owing to spread concerns.

[Muzukashii]
00:34:693 - i guess triplet more fit in 00:35:043 - to follow the stream fixed
00:50:517 - move 00:50:188 - to fill the high pitch I think the current position would flow better as the spot you mentioned is less significant.
01:00:572 - change don No change to keep it the same as Inner Oni.
01:00:572 - or 01:00:902 - change don to variate this kdk kdk ^
01:58:594 - delete, the patter feels too long as muzukashii I would prefer keeping it now as a difficulty spike across the set.

[Inner Oni]
00:03:951 - change don for simplicity, its a bit hard to hit at this point Retained as variation compared to 00:01:314 (2) - . Due to the relatively complex instrumental combination, I think it is underwhelming to make this pattern simpler.
00:44:336 - change don ? Would you mind providing a reason?
00:56:369 - add note, to sync the 1/6 There is no sound...

maybe just that from me
Good luck

Thanks for your mod~

aabc271

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aabc271 2017-10-23T16:00:51+00:00

yassu's mod

yassu- wrote:
aabc's Oni

・00:19:363 - delete　vocal follow Possible, but I'd keep this so that section 00:19:199 is not too sparse (compared with other parts in this song section)
・00:32:056 - delete　^ ^
・01:24:803 - add d　there is sound True. Added k to follow the falling pitch
・01:25:874 - delete and 01:25:710 - add k　guiter follow Seems good. Changed some notes after this to fit the transition better
・01:33:045 - add k and 01:33:374 - add d　vocal follow Sounds good to me

Thx for your mod

Update: aabc's Oni

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TitleUnicode:それは花火のような恋
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ArtistUnicode:夏色バーニングラブ☆Prim
Creator:Nardoxyribonucleic
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Nardoxyribonucleic

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Nardoxyribonucleic 2017-10-23T18:43:29+00:00

All difficulties are updated :3

salchow

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salchow 2017-10-27T19:55:20+00:00

Accepted!

but ill be only able to mod Kantan, Futsuu and Muzukashii

Nardoxyribonucleic

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Nardoxyribonucleic 2017-10-28T06:15:28+00:00

salchow wrote:
Accepted!

but ill be only able to mod Kantan, Futsuu and Muzukashii

Sure. You may mod any difficulties as you wish.

xtrem3x

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xtrem3x 2017-10-30T15:21:10+00:00

-w-

General:

Don = d
Kat = k
Big Don = D
Big Kat = K

> that BG is blurred, but it can't be obtained something clearer since it is the maximum quality of the video of this song.
> Tags: mitsu (lyrics) // beatmania IIDX 22 PENDUAL, jubeat plus, jubeat Qubell (other apparitions)

> Spread between Kantan, Futsuu and Muzukashii is good.

Kantan

00:24:308 (34,35,36) - this part despite having a good rhythm about BG sound I feel that I should have a kind of pause to just follow the "wind" sound in this section, leaving it as (k - D) to emphasize that sound mentioned above or leave kkD to emphasize the drum roll that sounds before the big note.

00:52:330 - it is a bit tedious to explain this point but in my opinion I see that changing this note to d to emphasizes the following big note with the highest BG sound, besides the long vocal, besides that in the next 3 notes (dkD) in the big note focus on the next long vocal tone but compared to this is less acute but... (see below)
00:53:979 - has sound for something strong but at the same time has a progressive sound that should be focused with normal notes, is possible to leave it as d?

Futsuu

> is weird, in assistant appear 02:02:138- as unsnapped but, in AiMod don't display that.

00:45:078 - this section is curious because leaving it as blue if it instinctively follows the next 3 notes but when changing it to d would sound more according to the previous note, because it would be following a sound of the same intensity, and the next 3 notes have another focus with the sound higher, in addition to prioritizing the big note after triple k.

01:26:286 - -->
>> the change is to focus the first triple ddd by the blowing sounds, and the following k kkk are for the guitar addition, following with the d K to emphasize the change to low vocll and ending with a big blue note to change the sequence to something spacious as shown right after.

Muzukashii

00:55:297 (254,255,256,257) - this set of big notes seems a bit freakish if we focus on the variations of vocal tones. could be more precise to leave it as KDDK to emphasize the 2 moments where it sounds stronger than is in the first and fourth note.

01:57:605 - is very clear that this section is somewhat long, is possible that they were deleting one or two notes, I would suggest delete 01:58:594- because is the only note where there is no sound to follow.

aabc's Oni

00:22:166 - this note could be changed to k to combine it better with the previous note (specifically for the vocal sounds), since the next note goes more focused to the bass sound.

00:35:352 - d? it seems to me that this note is more for the BG bass sound than to combine it with the next big note.

00:52:495 - this note is questionable, could be k since it follows the BG sound of course, but when compared with 00:53:814- it can be seen that this has more priority over the vocal than BG sound.
01:34:693 - Same situation here.

Wmf's Inner Oni

> A long time ago I don't see a beatmap yours. Old school style as always -w-

00:33:704- I think this note could be k to make this stream more variable.

00:35:023 (174,175,176,177) - I would prefer a mirror in these 4 notes (kkkd) to combine them appropriately with the following 4 notes (dddk).

00:36:671 (187,188,189) - this part I see it quite different, because I have noticed that you follow the cymbals but here it feels a bit broken that consistency, a K d K should be necessary.

01:11:699 - I question this stream a bit because it has a long vocal but I feel that it takes several blue notes to compensate for that, possibly this point is one of the 2 notes that you have to change.

01:28:100 - Same situation as 00:35:023- about mirror notes, but now with (dkkd) (kddk).

Inner Oni

01:50:682 - k? I see that it's high vocal.

2 stars (-w-)/**

Nardoxyribonucleic

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Nardoxyribonucleic 2017-10-31T12:16:28+00:00

xtrem3x wrote:
-w-

General:

Don = d
Kat = k
Big Don = D
Big Kat = K

> that BG is blurred, but it can't be obtained something clearer since it is the maximum quality of the video of this song. I have tried to search for a clearer BG but this is the best I could find.
> Tags: mitsu (lyrics) // beatmania IIDX 22 PENDUAL, jubeat plus, jubeat Qubell (other apparitions) I will consider adding "mitsu" later.

> Spread between Kantan, Futsuu and Muzukashii is good.

Kantan

00:24:308 (34,35,36) - this part despite having a good rhythm about BG sound I feel that I should have a kind of pause to just follow the "wind" sound in this section, leaving it as (k - D) to emphasize that sound mentioned above or leave kkD to emphasize the drum roll that sounds before the big note. Remain unchanged for a better spread with Futsuu.

00:52:330 - it is a bit tedious to explain this point but in my opinion I see that changing this note to d to emphasizes the following big note with the highest BG sound, besides the long vocal, besides that in the next 3 notes (dkD) in the big note focus on the next long vocal tone but compared to this is less acute but... (see below)
00:53:979 - has sound for something strong but at the same time has a progressive sound that should be focused with normal notes, is possible to leave it as d? Retained for pattern consistency with other difficulties.

Futsuu

> is weird, in assistant appear 02:02:138- as unsnapped but, in AiMod don't display that. It is snapped.

00:45:078 - this section is curious because leaving it as blue if it instinctively follows the next 3 notes but when changing it to d would sound more according to the previous note, because it would be following a sound of the same intensity, and the next 3 notes have another focus with the sound higher, in addition to prioritizing the big note after triple k. I think either d or k would work here as the focus has already been put at 00:45:407 (137,138,139) - for the higher-pitched sounds.

01:26:286 - -->
>> the change is to focus the first triple ddd by the blowing sounds, and the following k kkk are for the guitar addition, following with the d K to emphasize the change to low vocll and ending with a big blue note to change the sequence to something spacious as shown right after. As Muzukashii is a bit hard here, I would prefer keeping the current 1/2 triplet choices to fit the difficulty curve more.

Muzukashii

00:55:297 (254,255,256,257) - this set of big notes seems a bit freakish if we focus on the variations of vocal tones. could be more precise to leave it as KDDK to emphasize the 2 moments where it sounds stronger than is in the first and fourth note. In fact vocal pitch suggests DDKD but I changed the second note to k in attempt to strike a better balance with the song's intensity.

01:57:605 - is very clear that this section is somewhat long, is possible that they were deleting one or two notes, I would suggest delete 01:58:594- because is the only note where there is no sound to follow. I would prefer keeping this as a difficulty spike as lower difficulties are also hard at this spot.

Inner Oni

01:50:682 - k? I see that it's high vocal. Hmm, the pitch of vocal here is actually lower than that at 01:50:270 (868) - , so d would be okay.

2 stars (-w-)/**

Thanks for your mod and stars~

wmfchris

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wmfchris 2017-10-31T13:38:59+00:00

xtrem3x wrote:
Wmf's Inner Oni

> A long time ago I don't see a beatmap yours. Old school style as always -w-

00:33:704- I think this note could be k to make this stream more variable. sounds similar but I changed and see how it goes

00:35:023 (174,175,176,177) - I would prefer a mirror in these 4 notes (kkkd) to combine them appropriately with the following 4 notes (dddk). To me the extra d works well with the lower vocal so that is kind of intended.

00:36:671 (187,188,189) - this part I see it quite different, because I have noticed that you follow the cymbals but here it feels a bit broken that consistency, a K d K should be necessary. YES

01:11:699 - I question this stream a bit because it has a long vocal but I feel that it takes several blue notes to compensate for that, possibly this point is one of the 2 notes that you have to change. done in my way

01:28:100 - Same situation as 00:35:023- about mirror notes, but now with (dkkd) (kddk). not sure the reason behind using a mirror pattern...but I want to end with a dddk there.

Thanks

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aabc271

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Joined August 2009

aabc271 2017-11-01T14:51:55+00:00

xtrem3x's mod

xtrem3x wrote:
aabc's Oni

00:22:166 - this note could be changed to k to combine it better with the previous note (specifically for the vocal sounds), since the next note goes more focused to the bass sound. Kept this as d. Consider 00:21:671 (1,1,1,1,2) where the first 4 notes suggest a high-low-high-low vocal pitch, followed by an even lower 5th note.

00:35:352 - d? it seems to me that this note is more for the BG bass sound than to combine it with the next big note. Seems possible to me. k fits how I perceive the music more but d seems to fit the actual situation more

00:52:495 - this note is questionable, could be k since it follows the BG sound of course, but when compared with 00:53:814- it can be seen that this has more priority over the vocal than BG sound. Not sure if this is really a significant issue, but for now I changed 00:52:660 to K which seems to address the issue?
01:34:693 - Same situation here. ^

Thx for your mod

Update: aabc's Oni

osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:それは花火のような恋
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Nardoxyribonucleic

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Nardoxyribonucleic 2017-11-01T15:03:16+00:00

Difficulties are updated till this point.

frukoyurdakul

638 posts

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frukoyurdakul 2017-11-30T17:56:44+00:00

Hi there.

[Inner Oni]

I think you should add a note here. In my mind the 1/1 break is not really neccessary considering the structure, and considering 00:10:297 - this break here, adding a note will create a better flow.
00:35:764 (283) - I think you can delete this note, since there is not a sound on it and the main snapping is 1/2 and 3/4.
01:09:803 - I can tell the finishers are following the vocal pitch, but it kinda goes against the structure that you created on every other part. Yes, the vocals are strong, but 3/4 finishers like that doesn't fit the main melody itself, so I recommend changing it to something like kk dk kd from the start. Same issue exists on 01:52:001 - this point.

[Wmf's Inner Oni]

00:13:100 - Umm, I don't exactly hear a 1/6 or trill sound to support it, so I simply recommend using 1/2 since 00:13:594 - kkdk 1/6 is still a bit hard to read.
00:35:078 (175) - In my mind, kkkd plays and sounds way better there, instead of kdkd.
01:27:770 (68) - Same as above. These can be applied since the map is already varied.
01:42:605 - Considering the rest of the map, I think this stream is too long. And, honestly I don't hear specific sounds until 01:43:100 - this spot so I recommend starting the stream from the latter. (Now I heard the rest of them but still 2nd point is the most prominent one.)
01:59:913 - Umm, rhythm-based this part is the hardest one and yet your patterns are the easiest. This got me thinking and I suggest you to add some 1/6 patterns on this section.

[aabc's Oni]

00:14:418 - Uuuuum, is this SV change neccessary? 1.00x to 0.98x in a wide scale is not really detectable, so I recommend fixing it to 1.00x or changing it even further to like, 0.9x.
01:17:715 - Here, again, seems like an unneccessary green line spam.
01:32:221 (1) - Missing a finisher maybe? Seems a bit weak compared to the rest.
01:38:319 ~ 01:52:495 - I don't think only one break between these spots are enough, consider adding one or two to the first kiai in this section. 01:44:253 (3,4) - Deleting these can be an option.

[Muzukashii]

00:04:693 ~ 00:19:693 - Between these, there are no 3/2 breaks and there should be one at least. Middle is preferred, I recommend 00:16:067 - this note to delete.
00:21:836 - I think you can add a note here since you are mostly following vocal and there is a vocal sound on it.
00:39:308 ~ 00:55:957 - These two sections are also continuously mapped with 1/4 patterns and it also consists 3/4 snaps which can be considered as hard on Muzukashii level, so I think you need to add one or two breaks between this section as well. Since the main focus is vocals, I recommend 00:46:396 (210) - deleting this note.
00:56:616 ~ 01:22:990 - This section is also very long without a 3/2 break, specifically 79/1 which is way continuous considering the amount of 3/4 snapping. There should be at least 3 breaks to calm this part down a bit.
01:30:737 - I think you can add a DON here and 01:30:902 (413) - change this to don aswell. It will flow better.
01:38:319 ~ 02:00:078 - The break issue also exists on this section, with 66/1 this time, which requires at least 2 breaks, preferrably 3.

[Futsuu]

Really good.

[Kantan]

Also good.

You can call me back when the issues are solved.

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_handholding

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_handholding 2017-11-30T18:15:48+00:00

frukoyurdakul wrote:
Hi there.

[Inner Oni]
I think you should add a note here. In my mind the 1/1 break is not really neccessary considering the structure, and considering 00:10:297 - this break here, adding a note will create a better flow.

:thinking:

frukoyurdakul

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frukoyurdakul 2017-11-30T21:29:34+00:00

I can't edit my post, it is bugged. The first post kisses mentioned was meant to point 00:09:308 - this spot.

[R]

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[R] 2017-11-30T22:13:16+00:00

i try to improve the bg, noise more clear and better look

BG

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Nardoxyribonucleic

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Nardoxyribonucleic 2017-12-01T11:11:16+00:00

frukoyurdakul wrote:
Hi there.

[Inner Oni]

I think you should add a note here. In my mind the 1/1 break is not really neccessary considering the structure, and considering 00:10:297 - this break here, adding a note will create a better flow. Added d there.
00:35:764 (283) - I think you can delete this note, since there is not a sound on it and the main snapping is 1/2 and 3/4. fixed
01:09:803 - I can tell the finishers are following the vocal pitch, but it kinda goes against the structure that you created on every other part. Yes, the vocals are strong, but 3/4 finishers like that doesn't fit the main melody itself, so I recommend changing it to something like kk dk kd from the start. Same issue exists on 01:52:001 - this point. As the strong vocals call for, I would prefer keeping the finishes for better emphasis. It does not stand alone to affect structure as similar pattern like 01:14:418 (590,591,592,593) - exists.
[Muzukashii]

00:04:693 ~ 00:19:693 - Between these, there are no 3/2 breaks and there should be one at least. Middle is preferred, I recommend 00:16:067 - this note to delete. 15 seconds of pattern are not really long for Muzukashii. Further simplification would only cause unbalanced spread with aabc's Oni.
00:21:836 - I think you can add a note here since you are mostly following vocal and there is a vocal sound on it. You are right but this will form a relatively long 1/2 pattern which I do not prefer in this session. Also there are places I prioritize difficulty management rather than following all of them like 01:03:374 - 01:04:693 - 01:05:847 -
00:39:308 ~ 00:55:957 - These two sections are also continuously mapped with 1/4 patterns and it also consists 3/4 snaps which can be considered as hard on Muzukashii level, so I think you need to add one or two breaks between this section as well. Since the main focus is vocals, I recommend 00:46:396 (210) - deleting this note. Same as 00:04:693 - . I think forcing a break would impede consistency and ruin the structure (i.e. 00:46:067 (209,210) - 00:50:023 (229,230) - )
00:56:616 ~ 01:22:990 - This section is also very long without a 3/2 break, specifically 79/1 which is way continuous considering the amount of 3/4 snapping. There should be at least 3 breaks to calm this part down a bit. Deleted 01:14:089 (342,343) - for a 2/1 rest. Adding too much breaks would simply lose the impact the kiai provides for the intense music.
01:30:737 - I think you can add a DON here and 01:30:902 (413) - change this to don aswell. It will flow better. Remain unchanged as I would like to avoid 1/2 until 01:32:880 - for the calmness.
01:38:319 ~ 02:00:078 - The break issue also exists on this section, with 66/1 this time, which requires at least 2 breaks, preferrably 3. Similar to 00:56:616 - , I removed 01:56:286 (530) - for another 2/1 break.
[Futsuu]

Really good.

[Kantan]

Also good.

You can call me back when the issues are solved.

Thanks for your mod fruko~

@[R]: BG appreciated. Thanks!

wmfchris

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wmfchris 2017-12-01T18:51:44+00:00

frukoyurdakul wrote:
[Wmf's Inner Oni]

00:13:100 - Umm, I don't exactly hear a 1/6 or trill sound to support it, so I simply recommend using 1/2 since 00:13:594 - kkdk 1/6 is still a bit hard to read. 1/2 sounds weird as it breaks at the 1/2 level...but the 1/6 pairs up with the coming one well. Most 1/6 appeared in pairs later in the song as well.
00:35:078 (175) - In my mind, kkkd plays and sounds way better there, instead of kdkd. As mentioned in previous replies kdkd is what to be intended due to pitch consideration.
01:27:770 (68) - Same as above. These can be applied since the map is already varied. ^, as a variation of kdkd. In either way kkkd does not fit if you consider the coming melody imo
01:42:605 - Considering the rest of the map, I think this stream is too long. And, honestly I don't hear specific sounds until 01:43:100 - this spot so I recommend starting the stream from the latter. (Now I heard the rest of them but still 2nd point is the most prominent one.)
01:42:770 - to 01:43:264 - is a repetition of 01:42:111 - to 01:42:605 - as a group, so it would be inappropriate to break somewhere in between. Starting from the triplets is a bridge connecting the two sentences providing fluidity, which is repeated throughout the song like 00:59:748 - , 01:11:122 - , and 01:53:319 - . A 19-plet does not get too long when you already have 17-plets before, right...?
01:59:913 - Umm, rhythm-based this part is the hardest one and yet your patterns are the easiest. This got me thinking and I suggest you to add some 1/6 patterns on this section. I guess it's fine to have an easy part for the last 5 seconds as the climax has ended. I thought about 1/6 actually around 02:01:561 - or 02:02:550 - , but they require longer 1/6 streams which I wanted to stay away from. Therefore I decided to make it plain and easy instead

sorry but thanks >_<

aabc271

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aabc271 2017-12-03T09:35:03+00:00

frukoyurdakul's mod

frukoyurdakul wrote:
[aabc's Oni]

00:14:418 - Uuuuum, is this SV change neccessary? 1.00x to 0.98x in a wide scale is not really detectable, so I recommend fixing it to 1.00x or changing it even further to like, 0.9x. Increased the speed difference throughout the song for a bit
01:17:715 - Here, again, seems like an unneccessary green line spam. ^
01:32:221 (1) - Missing a finisher maybe? Seems a bit weak compared to the rest. That'd sound like between finish and not finish? Added for now
01:38:319 ~ 01:52:495 - I don't think only one break between these spots are enough, consider adding one or two to the first kiai in this section. 01:44:253 (3,4) - Deleting these can be an option. How's this an issue? All the spaces at 01:39:473 (6,7), 01:40:133 (3,4) sufficiently divides the kiai into small sections. Such 2-plet insertions fit the vocal's frequent 1/1.5 usage as well, and they're not really denser than 1st kiai (00:56:616)

Thx for your mod

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Nardoxyribonucleic

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Nardoxyribonucleic 2017-12-03T09:46:40+00:00

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frukoyurdakul

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frukoyurdakul 2017-12-03T14:31:59+00:00

wmfchris wrote:
[Wmf's Inner Oni]

00:13:100 - Umm, I don't exactly hear a 1/6 or trill sound to support it, so I simply recommend using 1/2 since 00:13:594 - kkdk 1/6 is still a bit hard to read. 1/2 sounds weird as it breaks at the 1/2 level...but the 1/6 pairs up with the coming one well. Most 1/6 appeared in pairs later in the song as well. At least 00:13:649 (12) - change this to d for a reverse pattern because dkkd and kkdk together as you explained don't create a good flow in my opinion, actually it just breaks it to be honest.
00:35:078 (175) - In my mind, kkkd plays and sounds way better there, instead of kdkd. As mentioned in previous replies kdkd is what to be intended due to pitch consideration. I've checked your explanation, yet the vocal sound you mentioned is on 00:35:188 (177) - this one which I don't have a problem with, but 00:35:078 (175) - this one just emphasize nothing. I mean, it's different for no reason because you are clearly following the trill sound with the 1/6 pattern, and kkkd works way better here. 00:35:023 (174,176) - These two emphasize the trills good, and the middle don just breaks it.

aabc271 wrote:
[aabc's Oni]

01:38:319 ~ 01:52:495 - I don't think only one break between these spots are enough, consider adding one or two to the first kiai in this section. 01:44:253 (3,4) - Deleting these can be an option. How's this an issue? All the spaces at 01:39:473 (6,7), 01:40:133 (3,4) sufficiently divides the kiai into small sections. Such 2-plet insertions fit the vocal's frequent 1/1.5 usage as well, and they're not really denser than 1st kiai (00:56:616) Umm, in my opinion 3/4 snaps can'be considered as "break" because the rhythm itself is already hard and with a continuous mapping like this,
I think it's quite hard and needs one break at least.

Except these issues, I think the mapset is good, but I need further explanations on these.

aabc271

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aabc271 2017-12-03T15:05:04+00:00

frukoyurdakul wrote:
aabc271 wrote:
[aabc's Oni]

01:38:319 ~ 01:52:495 - I don't think only one break between these spots are enough, consider adding one or two to the first kiai in this section. 01:44:253 (3,4) - Deleting these can be an option. How's this an issue? All the spaces at 01:39:473 (6,7), 01:40:133 (3,4) sufficiently divides the kiai into small sections. Such 2-plet insertions fit the vocal's frequent 1/1.5 usage as well, and they're not really denser than 1st kiai (00:56:616) Umm, in my opinion 3/4 snaps can'be considered as "break" because the rhythm itself is already hard and with a continuous mapping like this,
I think it's quite hard and needs one break at least.

But in my opinion they are. The rhythm, while you consider hard, is consistent and intuitive in my eyes (oo o o/ oo ooo as majority, followed by same pattern from 01:44:089 onwards). Also this is part of the final kiai which sounds more "excited" when you consider the vocal. All these justify the denser patterns but still within a reasonable range (not much difference with 1st kiai).
Except these issues, I think the mapset is good, but I need further explanations on these.
While you could still disagree with my claim, but from what I saw above, your argument is more based on your opinion ("in my opinion", "I think") which is not so different from how I explained above. I hope you'd consider my reply sufficient

wmfchris

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wmfchris 2017-12-03T22:10:12+00:00

frukoyurdakul wrote:
[Wmf's Inner Oni]

00:13:100 - Umm, I don't exactly hear a 1/6 or trill sound to support it, so I simply recommend using 1/2 since 00:13:594 - kkdk 1/6 is still a bit hard to read. 1/2 sounds weird as it breaks at the 1/2 level...but the 1/6 pairs up with the coming one well. Most 1/6 appeared in pairs later in the song as well. At least 00:13:649 (12) - change this to d for a reverse pattern because dkkd and kkdk together as you explained don't create a good flow in my opinion, actually it just breaks it to be honest. Why is symmetry so important? I don't see any need to force a symmetric pattern over a very short period of time because you won't see such symmetry every 1/2 in the song (it happens but over a larger time scale). Here kkdk is used simply because the second 1/6 note happened before the 1/4 melodic note and the third 1/6 note appears after it. And so, kddk may not work the very best there.
00:35:078 (175) - In my mind, kkkd plays and sounds way better there, instead of kdkd. As mentioned in previous replies kdkd is what to be intended due to pitch consideration. I've checked your explanation, yet the vocal sound you mentioned is on 00:35:188 (177) - this one which I don't have a problem with, but 00:35:078 (175) - this one just emphasize nothing. I mean, it's different for no reason because you are clearly following the trill sound with the 1/6 pattern, and kkkd works way better here. 00:35:023 (174,176) - These two emphasize the trills good, and the middle don just breaks it. I think my previous explanation covers both 1/6. kkkd is a no because the pitch variation does not work in that way. It would rather be anything but kkkd -- for simplicity reason I hope ddkd would have explained by intention clearer.

I will try to clarify if there are further questions ><

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Nardoxyribonucleic

osu! Alumni

3,008 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

Nardoxyribonucleic 2017-12-04T07:25:16+00:00

Updated Wmf's Inner Oni.

shionelove

1,521 posts

Joined September 2010

shionelove 2017-12-04T11:36:33+00:00

add tag beatmania IIDX and jubeat.it would be better : )

Nardoxyribonucleic

osu! Alumni

3,008 posts

Joined May 2011

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Nardoxyribonucleic 2017-12-04T11:47:25+00:00

shionelove wrote:
add tag beatmania IIDX and jubeat.it would be better : )

Added "beatmania IIDX 22 PENDUAL" and "jubeat" to tags, thanks!

frukoyurdakul

638 posts

Joined December 2015

frukoyurdakul 2017-12-06T11:41:11+00:00

Explanations are good for me, so we can take this map further. Good luck!

Stefan

Global Moderator

10,393 posts

Joined January 2011

Stefan 2017-12-07T22:36:54+00:00

[wmf's Inner Oni]
00:35:023 (174,175,176,177) - might change to kddk since ddkd on 1/6 is barely remarkable to hear out the sound, while the gameplay aspect looks imo better if you go with kddk.

[aabc's Oni]
01:17:468 (1) - sorta divided by that pattern choice, imo 01:17:056 (1,2,1,2) - isn't different from 01:17:385 (1,1,2) - sound-wise in the song. Would go with d instead.
01:59:666 (1) - ^

call me b

aabc271

osu! Alumni

1,315 posts

Joined August 2009

aabc271 2017-12-08T04:51:38+00:00

Stefan wrote:
[aabc's Oni]
01:17:468 (1) - sorta divided by that pattern choice, imo 01:17:056 (1,2,1,2) - isn't different from 01:17:385 (1,1,2) - sound-wise in the song. Would go with d instead. Wouldn't mind changing this for difficulty spread, but note that comparing 01:17:056 with 01:17:385, the latter does have higher pitch.
Changed for now
01:59:666 (1) - ^ ^

Thx for your mod

Update: aabc's Oni

osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:それは花火のような恋
Artist:Natsuiro Burning Love*Prim
ArtistUnicode:夏色バーニングラブ☆Prim
Creator:Nardoxyribonucleic
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