17:47 cdhsausageboy: o/ hanja
17:49 Hanjamon: hey cdh~
17:50 cdhsausageboy: made a new set even though i should be studying for my exams lol
17:50 cdhsausageboy: wanna try?
17:50 cdhsausageboy: *shamelessly hides in a corner*
17:50 cdhsausageboy: now i feel bad for coming to you whenever i have a new map D:
17:50 Hanjamon: np xD send me
17:51 *cdhsausageboy is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1402375 OISHII - ONIGIRI FREEWAY]
17:51 cdhsausageboy: here you go ;w;
17:51 cdhsausageboy: definitely not mapping something from featured artist for an easy rank
17:51 Hanjamon: xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
17:51 cdhsausageboy: loved the artist from the moment announcement was out lol
17:51 cdhsausageboy: actually planned to map a medley out of all of its songs
17:51 cdhsausageboy: but eh
17:51 cdhsausageboy: too lazy D:
17:52 Hanjamon: let's see
17:54 Hanjamon: lul
17:55 cdhsausageboy: LOL
17:55 cdhsausageboy: rip
17:55 Hanjamon: the map is cool, but hmm, sometimes is too easy and sometimes too hard for a Oni
17:55 cdhsausageboy: i know D:
17:56 cdhsausageboy: its hard to balance the map into a low end oni
17:56 cdhsausageboy: since the song is really dense in some parts ;w;
17:56 cdhsausageboy: not skillful enough to simplify it well enough lol
17:56 cdhsausageboy: i know that the oni should be mapped easier
17:56 cdhsausageboy: the problem is
17:56 cdhsausageboy: i have no idea how to do it D:
17:57 cdhsausageboy: WTF
17:57 Hanjamon: hmm
17:58 Hanjamon: you can make this oni harder and make another oni with simple patterns
17:58 cdhsausageboy: XDDD
17:58 cdhsausageboy: i've asked tasuke to make a harder oni already tho
17:59 cdhsausageboy: i'd rather try to make this oni easier to have a better spread
17:59 Hanjamon: there is no problem in having 2 inner
17:59 cdhsausageboy: the point is
17:59 cdhsausageboy: this is already my attempt on a easier oni
17:59 Hanjamon: hmm
17:59 cdhsausageboy: idk how to make another one LOLOL
17:59 Hanjamon: just delete notez, hehe
18:00 cdhsausageboy: this is what i thought LOL
18:00 cdhsausageboy: still have to find the correct notes to remove tho
18:00 Hanjamon: yes
18:00 cdhsausageboy: 00:20:655 until 00:26:084
18:00 cdhsausageboy: i guess this is one of the more problematic parts
18:01 Hanjamon: 00:17:798 - and not this?
18:01 Hanjamon: this a oni and you are adding patterns of 9 notes
18:01 cdhsausageboy: eh
18:01 cdhsausageboy: is simplifying it to k d kdkkd to it a nice solution
18:02 Hanjamon: yeah, that works
18:02 cdhsausageboy: kden
18:02 Hanjamon: you could delete 00:15:941 -
18:03 cdhsausageboy: kk
18:03 Hanjamon: so it looks more consistent with previous patterns
18:03 Hanjamon: in density i mean
18:04 cdhsausageboy: yup i could see where you're coming from
18:04 Hanjamon: if you can do something similar in the next 1/2 patterns would be nice
18:05 Hanjamon: also
18:05 Hanjamon: i would avoid the 1/6 of 01:24:655 -
18:05 cdhsausageboy: so like removing 00:22:798 would be fine i guess?
18:05 Hanjamon: yeah
18:05 Hanjamon: like that
18:06 Hanjamon: removing these kind of notes
18:06 cdhsausageboy: ehhhhhhhh i kinda wanna keep that tho
18:06 cdhsausageboy: maybe
18:06 Hanjamon: xDDD
18:06 cdhsausageboy: could i just remove the single note after it
18:06 cdhsausageboy: so there's a 1/1 break between each 1/6
18:06 cdhsausageboy: since i predict that the inner is going to have a hell lot of 1/6
18:06 Hanjamon: hmmmm
18:07 cdhsausageboy: so just sprinkling a small amount of 1/6 in this diff
18:08 Hanjamon: i have an idea for that part
18:08 Hanjamon: wait
18:08 cdhsausageboy: :o
18:09 Hanjamon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8982386
18:09 cdhsausageboy: OMG
18:09 cdhsausageboy: by removing the notes after 1/6
18:09 cdhsausageboy: the map went from 4.9* to 4.4* LOL
18:09 cdhsausageboy: ohhhhhhh
18:10 Hanjamon: are easier to hit these 1/6 and it looks consistent
18:11 cdhsausageboy: kk did something really similar to what you have
18:11 cdhsausageboy: yours actually made a lot of sense wtf
18:12 Hanjamon: don't forget to make something similar in 01:33:798 -
18:12 Hanjamon: for consistency
18:12 cdhsausageboy: yep
18:12 *cdhsausageboy gives myself small reminder that i probably owe hanja a lot of mods
18:12 cdhsausageboy: just saying thanks for all the help you gave ;w;
18:13 Hanjamon: lol, that's nothing :(
18:13 Hanjamon: btw
18:13 Hanjamon: the part of finishers 01:42:941 -
18:13 Hanjamon: don't you think is a bit tricky?
18:13 Hanjamon: i mean for a "simple" oni
18:14 Hanjamon: the part is nice btw
18:14 cdhsausageboy: eh
18:14 cdhsausageboy: i'll remove it if tasuke does the same thing in his diff
18:15 Hanjamon: it's okay xD
18:15 cdhsausageboy: will change the rhythm from OooOooOoo to just O oO oO oO
18:15 Hanjamon: that would be more simple
18:15 cdhsausageboy: i know that it's kinda hard even for me
18:15 cdhsausageboy: but eh
18:15 *cdhsausageboy slapped
18:15 cdhsausageboy: it sounds fun
18:15 Hanjamon: it sounds xD
18:17 Hanjamon: hmmmmmm
18:17 cdhsausageboy: rip cdh
18:17 cdhsausageboy: not good enough as a player
18:17 cdhsausageboy: so most of my mapping is based on how the pattern sounds D:
18:17 Hanjamon: 01:37:869 - you should remove this note, for consistency with 00:27:084 -
18:18 cdhsausageboy: will consider this one
18:18 cdhsausageboy: this whole portion is meant to be harder than 00:25:226 to 00:27:512
18:19 cdhsausageboy: since the music itself is a lot faster in pace too
18:19 cdhsausageboy: will ehhhh
18:19 cdhsausageboy: i'll probably remove that too LOL
18:19 Hanjamon: i understand xD
18:19 Hanjamon: don't feel forced btw
18:19 cdhsausageboy: since yeah
18:19 Hanjamon: they are just suggestions
18:19 cdhsausageboy: i get that 1/4 9 note patterns are just a bit too hard at this bpm
18:19 cdhsausageboy: gave a map to a couple of 2k~4k ranked players
18:20 cdhsausageboy: most of them could get less than 15 misses
18:20 Hanjamon: that long pattern
18:20 Hanjamon: was hard for them?
18:20 cdhsausageboy: some of them could fc it at the second try
18:20 cdhsausageboy: its somewhat harder than a normal oni
18:21 cdhsausageboy: but still not completely out of reach i guess
18:21 Hanjamon: well, having hard onis isn't bad
18:21 Hanjamon: omg
18:21 Hanjamon: the muzukashii has 1/2 very long patterns xD
18:21 Hanjamon: but
18:21 Hanjamon: as it has some breaks it's okay for me
18:22 cdhsausageboy: XDD
18:23 cdhsausageboy: i personally like the muzu really much
18:23 Hanjamon: i usually make easy muzus
18:23 Hanjamon: xD
18:23 cdhsausageboy: especially the usage of big dons ;w;
18:23 cdhsausageboy: :oo
18:24 cdhsausageboy: i always depend on the song ;w;
18:24 cdhsausageboy: the song already feels hard when i first listened to it ;w;
18:24 Hanjamon: if all diffs are hard it should be "ok"
18:24 cdhsausageboy: yup
18:25 cdhsausageboy: but i feel like
18:25 Hanjamon: 02:46:441 - and 02:46:584 - , how about delete them? as it feels better the kkkkd starting in 02:46:655 -
18:26 cdhsausageboy: the kantan is too easy LOLOL
18:26 Hanjamon: that or make 02:46:369 (383,384,385,386) - dddd?
18:27 cdhsausageboy: removed both notes but made the part before it just sliggggggggghtly denser
18:27 cdhsausageboy: it feels weird when the climax of the kiai is the easiest
18:28 Hanjamon: hmm
18:28 Hanjamon: or
18:28 Hanjamon: you can do that in 01:17:584 -
18:28 Hanjamon: and keep that kkkkkkkkkd
18:30 cdhsausageboy: hmmmmmm
18:30 cdhsausageboy: kk
18:30 cdhsausageboy: gimme sometime to test both of the suggestions
18:31 cdhsausageboy: will choose whichever feels better ><
18:31 Hanjamon: sure, i don't have hurry xD
18:33 cdhsausageboy: used your initial suggestion ;w;
18:34 Hanjamon: which of them?
18:34 cdhsausageboy: deleted the first notes of the long kkkkkkkkd stream
18:34 Hanjamon: okay :3
18:35 Hanjamon: about the one of the first kiai, are you gonna make it similar?
18:35 cdhsausageboy: nah
18:35 Hanjamon: or keep kkkkk k d for variety?
18:35 cdhsausageboy: a lot of the patterns between the two kiais are different
18:35 cdhsausageboy: i guess gotta have a bit of variety between them
18:35 Hanjamon: okay
18:36 Hanjamon: there is a reason of having Sample hitsounds?
18:36 cdhsausageboy: just used soft for the softer parts to feel more soft
18:36 cdhsausageboy: wait what the hell am i saying
18:36 Hanjamon: xDDDD
18:37 cdhsausageboy: i guess i could change all the sample to normal hitsound
18:37 Hanjamon: yes
18:37 cdhsausageboy: but i have to figure out all the volumes tho
18:37 Hanjamon: it should be similar
18:37 cdhsausageboy: with soft hitsound though the volumes are easier to adjust
18:37 cdhsausageboy: iirc 60% S almost equal to 40% N orz
18:39 Hanjamon: i changed all hitsounds to N
18:39 Hanjamon: they sound ok with the actual volume
18:41 cdhsausageboy: fine tuned a couple of green lines
18:41 cdhsausageboy: changed every line to normal hitsound ><
18:41 Hanjamon: at least in the skin that i use, i don't like the soft sounds
18:41 Hanjamon: in the default skin the same
18:42 cdhsausageboy: XDDDDDD okay
18:43 cdhsausageboy: actually *cough*
18:43 cdhsausageboy: after your every suggestion
18:43 cdhsausageboy: i also made some small changes in other parts
18:43 cdhsausageboy: so that the combo will always be 1100
18:43 *cdhsausageboy hides
18:43 Hanjamon: xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
18:43 Hanjamon: TNT mapper
18:43 Hanjamon: 765 combo when
18:43 cdhsausageboy: the song is too long for that LOL
18:44 Hanjamon: xDDDDDD
18:44 Hanjamon: after that i don't have more suggestions i think
18:44 Hanjamon: if you want i can post irc log in the thread :^)
18:45 cdhsausageboy: i was just about to ask you to post XDD
18:45 Hanjamon: hahah